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I have no problem with letting CJ go. In fact, it makes sense to me to let CJ go, and I don't think it has anything to do with the Rangers being cash strapped or stupid. Instead, I think it is an issue of their perspective on their "core" and their available talent. Since Daniels took over, the Rangers have been hoarding pitching, and now that hoarding is bearing fruits in terms of depth. Without CJ, the Rangers retain 4/5 of a very good rotation from last year, and insert the best arm in the system into his place. Further, they have at least 3 players behind those 5 in Feldman, Perez and Ramirez who potentially could compete at the ML level this season if necessary. CJ, while a very good SP, was not dramatically better than the top 4-5 pitchers the Rangers already have in place for next year.

Further is the issue of core players. When you examine the Rangers system, you see that there is very little positional depth. Olt and Profar are high end position players, but they are blocked and, especially in the case of Profar, not all that close to contributing. Outside of them, there is little high end positional talent in the system. Therefore if the Rangers were to allow Josh Hamilton, Mike Napoli or Ian Kinsler to leave in the next two seasons, the in-house replacements would be poor. Those players need to be locked up more than CJ, because they are less replaceable than CJ. When the Rangers did splash big money, as they did last year with Beltre, it was on a player whose skillset was not anywhere near present in the system.

I suspect that, by the time the season starts, we will begin seeing extensions for some of the core players, as well as the addition of another bullpen arm. And I am fine with this. If letting CJ walk allows the Rangers to resign Napoli, Hamilton and Kinsler then so be it. In any case, there is no point in going bananas about the offseason when the offseason is not over yet.

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by Josh Lile on Dec 8, 2011 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

It's fine

I’ve been coming around since 2005, I know what to expect. Even though I rarely post anymore, I still sometimes feel compelled to offer my thoughts for a communal punching bag.

"When you play happy, good things will happen"-Elvis Andrus

by pblack on Dec 8, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I understand this point of view...

but I still think Wilson was worth 5/80 and the team could have done that deal while still keeping the ‘core’ guys you’re referring to.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 8, 2011 4:23 PM CST reply actions  

CJ had Tommy John surgery a while back.

Can the injury reoccur, with the surgery being necessary a second time? Or, is it only needed once in a player’s career?

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Dec 8, 2011 6:46 PM CST reply actions  

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Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Dec 8, 2011 7:15 PM CST reply actions  

Time will tell

If CJ turns out to be really good and the Angels win the division, and parts of the Rangers current rotation sucks, there will be hell to pay.

by SanDiegoKev on Dec 9, 2011 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

In my mind...

The Rangers already replaced him. Not with Feliz, but with Derek Holland. Derek should be at least as good as CJ was this year. If everyone else improves and Neftali does as well as Ogando did last year, the starting pitching will actually be better than last year. That said, I think Ogando would be better in the bullpen and the Rangers picking up Oswalt on the cheap… Oswalt could happen, but I think they are committed to keeping Ogano in the rotation at least for the regular season.

"I said I got this guy out a couple of times already, I get him out historically and I really need to work on my neck tan," -- CJ Wilson getting pulled with 2 out in the 8th.

by Joeactor on Dec 11, 2011 5:38 PM CST reply actions  

Core Players?

I read that core player theme sometime last week, and it sounded like a justification from tthe FO for letting CJ go. My problem is historically the Rangers have been a historically strong offensive club, and a weak pitching club. So I don’t like to let effective Rangers pitchers go to the competition, plus I liked CJ’s candor.

If I had to choose two core players to extend it would be Kinsler and Napoli. Cruz is a little more inconsistent than I like, and Hamilton is volatile from year to year in performance. I don’t think you can get much better replacement players than Naps or Kinsler. I’m not sure the Rangers have any really strong slugging outfielders in the system at this time, but I think they are more likely to be found in the free agent market. If you can get three of the four core players, plus Elvis back, I could probably live with CJ heading to So Cal. But right now I sure don’t like it!

by Philar on Dec 12, 2011 12:50 PM CST reply actions  

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