Wednesday morning Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 23, 2011 9:43 AM CST
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Jeff Wilson writes that Chris Davis thinks he can get his career back on track. Ron Washington says that Davis is competing for a job, but realistically, at this point, barring injuries, there are probably no positional spots open on this team, and only three spots on the pitching staff -- the final two rotation slots and the long reliever.
T.R. Sullivan takes a look at the long relief competition, saying that Tommy Hunter, Michael Kirkman, Derek Holland, or Matt Harrison could end up as the team's long reliever, along with potentially Dave Bush.
In his notes, Anthony Andro talks to Eric Hurley and has updates on Brandon Webb's throwing and the competition for the last bullpen job.
Sullivan has a piece on Nelson Cruz, calling him the team's unsung hero and talking about how he brings level-headedness and an even keel to the clubhouse.
Adam Wainwright is having elbow issues, and it appears that the Cardinals are fearful he'll need Tommy John surgery, which would sideline him for the season. No word as to whether Lance Berkman thinks losing Wainwright will make the Cardinals an "average" team...
Gil Lebreton has a column on Jon Daniels, and how he's gone from derisively being called "Jon Boy" to the g.m. who built the team that went to the World Series in 2010.
Richard Durrett talks to Seth McClung about his passion for basketball. McClung was a basketball coach this past year.
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Decent article by LeBreton
Nothing spectacular, but nice to see some of the media recognize the growth of Daniels as G.M. I remember being somewhat skeptical at the time that a guy younger the most of the players on the roster could do this good a job of being a G.M.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2011 9:48 AM CST reply actions
I was trying to look this up
but was Lebreton ever one of the people to use those names? I know Galloway, Reeves, JFE all did.
I had no problem with JD's age...Theo performed his job at the highest level
and has become one of the best GMs in the game at essentially the same age.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
This thread is a cluster fuck do not enter.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
by boomer1 on Feb 23, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
thank you kind sir for the info
exiting now
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - AA
"Lingering tensions, Matches, gasoline cans, Buddhist Monks" - AA 2/22
I'll be making a flag soon that says.....
“WARNING!!”
“Some LSB’ers are too fucking stupid to understand the concept of not responding!!”
….and I’ll be posting it under your flag every time since you don’t understand as well.
- LSB has ADD -
by b.pate on Feb 23, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
G'day mate!
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I don't think this one is on Josey
…as much as the 100’s of posts attacking his trade proposal and then arguing about banning him.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
I would rather they trade for Josh Johnson
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
"While they still can" implies there will be a point where they cannot.
Aside from the trade deadline, that’s not true.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"While they still can" implies there will be a point where they cannot.
Aside from the trade deadline, that’s not true.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Trade
Pujols, who has 10-5 rights, said he would not approve a trade during the season.
"When you play happy, good things will happen"-Elvis Andrus
You went "there."
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Nooooooooooooooooooo
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Nice dig at Berkman
Shame about Wainwright.
by Robert L. Bishop on Feb 23, 2011 9:50 AM CST reply actions
You'd think Harrison has the edge to be long reliever, right?
I guess unless Holland can’t make the rotation because I’m assuming Hunter will. But then we’d have 3 lefties either way…. I guess it doesn’t matter given how they will probably use Oliver and Rhoades.
I don't know
I wouldn’t be shocked if the last spot went to Tobin (who has to stick on the 25 man roster or be offered back), or if they grabbed some Nippert-type off of waivers.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 23, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, someone off waivers obviously changes the scenario.
I was really just thinking about as of today. He should have put on 10 pounds of muscle like Elvis. Then he’s probably be in the best shape of his life.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Isn't there a report out right now
about Tobin still feeling the effects of injury. Don’t know if he’ll be ready.
Yeah, he said that in the post right below this one
How did you not see that post when you made this post?
Isn't there a report out right now
about Tobin still feeling the effects of injury. Don’t know if he’ll be ready.
Yeah, just saw that
Increases the chances he starts the season on the 15 day d.l.
I don’t have a good handle on the long reliever job right now.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 23, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
No way of telling
until the rotation situation shakes out.
"dude spilling the salt is very bad luck, quick pass the salt over ur right shoulder" -Derek Holland
Setting aside my Harrison fetish
I think he makes the most sense as long reliever as opposed to Holland and Kirkman; the latter two being younger and probably would benefit more from regular, predictable starts at AAA. That and Harrison was effective enough in the bullpen in that role last year.
Go Rice Owls!
Yup.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
x
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Utah has agreed to trade All-Star point guard Deron Williams to Nets in multi-player package, Yahoo! Sports has learned. Deal is done.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
x
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Utah has agreed to trade All-Star point guard Deron Williams to Nets in multi-player package, Yahoo! Sports has learned. Deal is done.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Favors, Harris, and 2 #1s for DWill.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
=\
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"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
This cracks me up everytime
Nolan Ryan beating the shit out of Robin Ventura (at the bottom) never gets old.
"They both have, according to scouts, "stacked minor league systems" but I just don’t see the Rays competing against the Red Sox or Yankees and I don’t think the Rangers will be able withstand the offseason wrath of Moreno. Have fun while it lasts." - by angelsownredsux
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Feb 23, 2011 10:07 AM CST reply actions
I love how Ventura gets pegged, gets his ass kicked, and then gets tossed.
Meanwhile Nolan just gets back on the mound and goes back to pitching like nothing happened.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
x
@Evan_P_Grant
Evan Grant
Michael Young will attend to a family matter and miss workouts at #Rangers camp on Thursday and Friday.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
michael was asked to bring coleslaw to the family picnic
but he wants to bring mashed potatoes. but someone else in the family is bringing better mashed potatoes. michael is upset and does not want to go to the family picnic anymore.
Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard fillings. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 23, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Did he ask for a trade to another family yet?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
there are rumors out there regarding people with better coleslaw than michaels,
but nothing difinitive at this point. all signs point to him being at the picnic ready to eat.
Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard fillings. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 23, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
I want to go on record
My family isn’t willing to trade for him unless his family kicks in 10 buckets of chicken and some potato salad.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
He's unwilling to admit that his mashed potatoes are inferior though.
Stating that he “isn’t losing sleep” about his mashed potatoes.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 9 recs
this is brilliant
"Whenever I'm about to do something, I think 'Would an idiot do that?' And if they would, I do not do that thing."
Or STL.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Ok Cards we will give you...
MY and Hunter and $15M and you give us Rasmus. Do we have a deal?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
hunter, borbon and young
and I doubt seriously that would be enough. Yes, I would do it.
by aggiecurt05 on Feb 23, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Ive been saying this trade for months
now it kinda makes more sense wit a little Cards desperation in play.
"dude spilling the salt is very bad luck, quick pass the salt over ur right shoulder" -Derek Holland
I heard they pulled Ubaldo out of drills today.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Young showing up to camp wasn't the problem.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Link?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
by RangersSD on Feb 23, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
See above
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Look below
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
That isn't a link.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
by RangersSD on Feb 23, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I found a link
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
by boomer1 on Feb 23, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Size, gosh.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Refrigerator.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Murphy?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Drop Kick?
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
On the wing
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
by Pocket Ninja on Feb 23, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
There was time now! That's not fair!
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
Spock
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Yes,
I think they’ve missed the point.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
I win!
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Instigator
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
Family matter my ass.
He’s still got sand in his vagina.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
And we're back?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
finally
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Buenos Dias Amigo(a)s
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
So... here's the morning OT thread link, provided SBN is okay now.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/2/23/2009853/2-23-morning-ot-post
http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/2/23/2009853/2-23-morning-ot-post
http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/2/23/2009853/2-23-morning-ot-post
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
The end is near
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Wainwright needing TJ surgery is yet another reason
I wait until Spring Training is almost over before issuing predictions.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I would recommend that for both W/L and trade predictions
Pedroia hurts his foot again, Lopez and EYjr both flop….
Way to much variability during ST in rosters….
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
I'm glad you cleared that up
I was wondering…
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone get a notification about opening day tix yet?
Im still a little pissed off about the situation. We have had mini plans for the past 4 years and this year, when we renewed ours, we were told that, as usual, season ticket holders included mini plan holders, would get first option at opening day tickets. We couldnt ge the mini plan that included opening day bc there were too many Tuesday games and I coach a 12U baseball team with practices every Tuesday. But then to find out we dont get first option and have to get lucky in a lottery just sucks man. Those of us who have spent plenty of money even with a struggling team gets screwed bc now tickets are selling like candy. I know its business but just sucks. Ive been tot he past 5 opening days and unless i get lucky with this lottery, the streak will end there. Just sucks. Disappointing how the Rangers arent taking care of their season ticket holders, especially the renewals.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
Not yeat but I just know I'm going to win a chance for them
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I couldn't agree more....
And when they suck again in 8 years…? (if not sooner). We’ll still be there, and they’ll be begging us to come back. Here, here’s my money.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 23, 2011 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Meh.
Basic supply and demand.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
I understand
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 23, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
Right.
When the Rangers have one of the lowest total costs of any team to go to a game for years despite having to deal with the residues of high salaries, nobody feels bad for the team.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Well when those people
are going to the same number of games in 2008, 2009, and 2010 and spending the same amount on food and beer I would like to be rewarded for loyalty in 2011.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 23, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Umm... they are taking care of their season ticket holders.
Just only the full and half season plans.
I got my code for OD presale as a ST holder this morning.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Not in all things
I think they jerked around the half season packages.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 23, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
I dunno.
I have a full season. But for OD, both full and half get a crack at extra tickets tomorrow.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Nope. Already spoken for.
I’m limited to four and two are for my sister and brother in law and the other two for my bosses’ dad. Bosses dad and brother in law are die hards.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
I could care less about Opening Day
Its 1 game. I got my presale code. As a 40 game holder (2011 is my third year) don’t give me the 40 best games in 09 and 10 and then change the rules. I just think there should be some sort of grandfathering.
The real issue for me will be come playoff time.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 23, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
How much are we talking.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 23, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah I'm gonna need more $$
Check out stubhub.
Not to be a greedy bastard, but…
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 23, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
I think I'm going to pass
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 23, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
you and match I find interesting
I noticed you both around the same time and your names come off as similar to me, and both seemed to be educated
Seem to be educated...
Yes I had my formal training at Texas Tech. But everything else I learned from the School of Hard Knocks.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 23, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
How did it feel last Saturday?
To be a Baylor Basketball Fan?
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 23, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
I actually have very little formal education.
High-school drop out and never attended college.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
You are really a high school drop out?
I guess it’s not difficult to get into comp programming without a formal degree or training
I am.
I had an interesting childhood. Made me have a hard time giving a fuck about… anything really. Repeated the 10th grade and then dropped out. Mostly due to skipping 80% of all classes. Prior to 10th grade I was in every gifted program Garland ISD had to offer.
I got my GED when I was 17… if I had known how easy it would be I’d have done it in 8th grade.
Fortunately, I took typing in high school and can type 70-80 WPM. Got a job doing data entry when I was 20. After a year I started redesigning the processes because I thought they were inefficient. They moved me down to IT to be a Business Analyst. After a few months working with programmers, I thought it was pretty neat… bought some books and learned at home. Got my MCSD without telling anyone and then just showed up at work and asked if they’d let me program.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
If I had known how easy it would be I'd have done it in 8th grade.
I felt the same way. I thought, why did I waste 2 1/2 years in high school?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
What else did you have to do that would have been better for you at that age though?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Exactly.
I’ve had a full time job since I was 17. I’ve been employeed at least part time since I was 14. Only thing keeping me from going full time sooner was school.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Same here -- had at minimum a part time job since I was 14
yet I finished HS and college.
"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ
by Dirk Diggler on Feb 23, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not saying the job prevented it.
But the question was what would you do instead of college. And work is the answer.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
My argument all along...
is that working is probably a more effective place to learn things and spend time than an expensive day care for adults.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Eh, it's hard to learn at work.
Certain things have to be learned, but anything past the bare minimum is taking away time from being more immediately productive.
No, it is not hard to learn at work.
I’ve been looking at job postings lately, and a certain percentage of registered rep positions require a degree. Not an accounting or finance degree, just any ol’ degree. By definition, those people would be learning on the job.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
That's the "certain things have to be learned" part.
But at my job there are miles of lines of code that I’ve looked at that have been written in basically the same way as the stuff written by different people working here ten years ago because once the people working on it more recently got to the point where they had learned enough to patch up the old way of doing it, they didn’t have the time/drive to keep up with newer, better ways of doing things.
I’m the most junior developer in the group but there’s new stuff that I’ve learned on my own in the past few months that I’ve been adding for the first time to some of the applications.
To be fair
My initial learning as a developer was at home using books. I had never programmed anything before aside from some BASIC on a TI99 when I was 8.
3 months only at night or on weekends was all it took to pass all four Microsoft exams and get my premeire cert.
And aside from starting to grasp syntax and design problems… all my real learning about development I learned on the job.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
It's a time thing more than a school vs work thing for me.
Work demands 40 hours a week. School didn’t. A ton of the interesting stuff I learned while in school wasn’t actually from classes — there were a few very nice classes that introduced new and cool concepts, but most of it was just reading and playing around on my own.
Got a job at 15 and had one ever since.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
I was making that money
playing music. I went through high school and four years of college playing or teaching music and then decided to get a desk job. Now I make maps and research sabermetrics in my spare time.
What's that mean?
I doubt you would have learned much more...
from a job at that age than school though.
I understand your argument with the education system, but I don’t think you can really say you ‘lost’ that part of your life or it was a ‘waste’.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
High school...
was definitely a waste for me.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
And I get that...
but the jobs I had while in high school or at that age were kinda a waste too.
I wasn’t going to be learning the lessons of life at the local video store or Sam’s Club.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
You're learning how to work.
Lots of people look around at 22 or 23 and realize they don’t know anything about working in an office or how they’re expected to behave.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Meh...
there’s not much to ‘learning how to work’ either imho.
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
and at school
you’re learning how to learn.
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
At school...
you’re learning how to play beer pong.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Wrong.
Not everyone is there to party.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
and also
how differential equations and Thermodynamics work. And Biochemistry in Ghettobear’s case.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Garoonically enough,
I didn’t learn to play beer pong until the summer before med school started.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Not if they're an English major.
And an English major counts just as well towards “degree required” jobs.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
no, that's after school
or before in my case.
but people get shitfaced after work too.
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Be glad you didn't go to magnet school then.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
It is difficult to advance in it though.
I am a college (not highschool) dropout and you’d be surprised how many college graduates (even with masters) we turn away because of how different in-school and real-life CS works.
Absolutely.
Even with over a decade’s experience and a shiny Vice President title, I’d be nervous trying to find another job without connections.
There is severe education bias. Education != competency.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
I felt guilty in some of my upper level course projects,
since I’d be working in groups with people who I guarantee you would not have passed those courses without people like me in the group with them.
The back of 28. Lower infield
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
That's around where I sat when I caught a foul ball from Cruz
If you ever have two tickets that you aren’t using, I’ll gladly use them for you… heh.
Give me an email address.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
hmmm..
How far back in 28? I’m on the first row of 127.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 23, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Row 28
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
That is around where I usually try to sit.
Although after sitting in the Lexus box right above there, I don’t want to sit anywhere else.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
I thought about it, but I prefer the angle of being lower.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Why can't Young walk?
Is he too good for that?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
The driver of that cart doesn't seem to revere him like he is supposed to.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Sort of looks like he's planning something sinister.
by Giant Space Ants on Feb 23, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Golfcart crash?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
.284 /.330/.444
He walks a little bit
by blakethegr8 on Feb 23, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think yesterday's CJ Wilson thread...
…had more OT stuff than the OT thread.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
It had some baseball talk
A little Derek Holland, some trade rankings, and some CJ talk; however, at ~6:00pm it exploded with about 900 comments that were mostly OT.
What's that mean?
Oh, I'm not complaining.
I’ve never been opposed to OT discussion. It generally is something Josey doesn’t take part in, so I like it twice as much.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
That was just a comment on the timing of the OT explosion.
I stopped looking at the thread around 6 checked on it later, and there were 900 new comments on completely different subjects. Kinda hard to catch up when 900 comments pop up while you’re not paying attention.
What's that mean?
Yeah
I left work around 6:15 and it was still reasonable. This morning I was blown away seeing ‘900 new’ comments.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Borbon, Hunter and Harrison to the Cards for Rasmus?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Ain't enough.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
The Cards GM just hung up on you for offering a shitty trade.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
And now we have to talk to an unpaid intern
who will decide whether Mozeliak gets to hear our trade proposals
That doesn't say a whole lot about our chances in 2011.
The Rangers are counting very heavily on both Hunter & Borbon.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
You're right, it doesn't say much about our chances in 2011, one way or the other.
It just says that Rasmus is that much better than those two guys.
By your logic, the fact that the Angels wouldn’t accept that trade for Mike Trout means we’re going to suck in 2011.
But you’re wrong.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
by Aqua on Feb 23, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Mike Trout is going to be better than Rasmus.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Congratulations, you missed the point.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
by Aqua on Feb 23, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Point to Esquire
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
x
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
by boomer1 on Feb 23, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Really,
you’re going to argue with that terrible ass logic? That two starting players for the Rangers are being depended on yet because they can’t get one of the better young players in baseball, they’re worthless?
This is trolling.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
I didn't call Borbon & Hunter worthless...I thought including them along with Harrison
for Rasmus was a deal that made sense.
Waterboy is the person that said the proposal wasn’t good enough for the Cards.
Let the game come to you, ghetto.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
link?
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - AA
"Lingering tensions, Matches, gasoline cans, Buddhist Monks" - AA 2/22
by shock00 on Feb 23, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Where?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Quickly. Bye.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
And it wasn't, but simply proposing it isn't the trolling part.
Saying that their rejection of it meant something for our chances in 2011 is where you passed from “dumbass trade proposal” territory to “outright trolling this shit.”
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
When has he ever not gone to "outright trolling this shit?"
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
I just don't get it.
Obvious troll is obvious.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
The more OT we get in all threads, the less Josey.
I am less motivated than ever to keep OT in the OT thread.
That movie The Stone was terrible.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
You know what? You're right.
Interesting fact, The Southern Living Cookbook, seen here:
has a recipe for Chili in it. It has beans.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
That is stew then
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
That is so inappropriate.
I should send a strongly worded e-mail to the editor!
Actually, I’m pretty sure that bean-less chili is generally considered Texas Chili…..and since Texas isn’t really part of the South, I can’t blame them too much.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
I had a heated debate about this with a Yankee
Is Texas considered part of the South?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
Not the Deep South, no.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I don't think it typically is.
Although people from north of the Mason-Dixon probably think anything south of Ohio is part of the south.
We were a part of the Confederacy, yes.
So technically part of the South. But Texas is not the Deep South, no. Texas has always kind of been doing its own thing.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
That's what I tried to explain to him.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Do you consider yourself a southerner?
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
I'm a Texan.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Interesting.
No. Texan. But when it comes to things like the importance of football and Q, I attribute it to being a ‘southern thing’
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
football is pretty important
in Ohio and Pennsylvania also.
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
Texas is it's own region.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Texas is it's own region.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
WTF.
SBN is full of double/triple postings today.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Non-Texas chili isn't really chili.
Yes, you’re correct FP. Texas chili doesn’t have beans while others do.
What's that mean?
A trade proposal that I came up with is an obvious troll?
Very dramatic, indeed.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
It was stupid
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
by boomer1 on Feb 23, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Once again, the proposal was not trolling. It was just stupid.
This was trolling:
That doesn’t say a whole lot about our chances in 2011.
The Rangers are counting very heavily on both Hunter & Borbon.
By your logic, the Rockies not wanting to take Michael Young’s contract “doesn’t say a whole lot about our chances in 2011,” since we are “counting very heavily” on him.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
by Aqua on Feb 23, 2011 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think that is trolling at all
it is pessimistic, and not really great logic, but it isn’t trolling. Josey is admittedly bullish on the A’s and skeptical of the Rangers. He’s not necessarily anti-Hunter like some people. Hunter not having any value could be a bad sign to someone who thinks the team needs a great Hunter to contend. I don’t agree in the slightest, but it isn’t trolling.
On the other hand, everyone who posts “Link?” to Josey posts is trolling. And I may well start flagging it as such.
Go Rice Owls!
Such is your right.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Needing a great Hunter
doesn’t mean that the Cardinals will be willing to accept him as a piece of a trade puzzle for one of the top young CF’ers in the game. Those two things are mutually exclusive and the bringing them up like they coincide is just trying to get a rise out of people.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Seriously, what do you want, here?
I get it, you don’t think Josey is bad. But holding out his baiting posts that are inherently reasonable so that he can then troll the fuck out of the board for a response is not an example of why Josey shouldn’t be permanently banned. There are some examples of why he shouldn’t be, and I’m not one who thinks he should be banned forever, but this isn’t it.
Trolling is bad. I, and most others on this board, would like to see it stop. Ignoring his stupid doesn’t work. So people try other things. When they escalate it, people get bitchy and want them to back off. Fine.
Posting link is a not overly aggressive way to point out that he’s being stupid and hopefully a quick, short way to try to discourage people from getting into the pointless cyclical conversations with him. Posting pictures of Link is a nice twist on it.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Posting "flagged as troll" is not overly aggressive, either.
But people sure freaked the fuck out about that.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
His behavior has remarkably improved...
since GoET implied he was going to start taking a heavier hand to moderation.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
It always does.
He shapes up for a little while and plays nice, then goes back when he thinks the heat is off.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I think the "cure"...
is worse than the disease at this point.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Cure is better.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
You may be right,
but I’m willing to put up with short doses of it to see if it improves things long-term.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
As stubborn as Josey is...
I don’t think you guys are going to have any impact on him. His main motivation is having a platform or forum to make his pronouncements. The threat of moderation has done far more than the mob, I think.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
My goal
has been pretty consistent. Get one of the moderators to temporarily ban him.
I think that would have an effect on how he acts.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
The threat of it....
has already had an effect.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
And the effect
seems to be rapidly wearing off.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
I'm going to make a post at the bottom.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Check yourself and strive for improvement yourself, Gbear.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks Tony Robbins.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
That one didn't even make sense.
Who says, “Check yourself,” anyways?
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
banana hands
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Not surprising
If you let him run around without any chance of being punished, he’s going to keep doing his thing. If you don’t, then he’s probably going to stop going full retard.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Never go full retard.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
With all due respect to the ghost, any modification
of behavior had to do with not making a terrible situation much worse.
Instead of bringing a can of gasoline, I let fire burn itself out.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
The trainwreck that is every one of his posts
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
You're asking so I'm telling you.
Last week was fairly toxic and the Ghost was having to deal with somebody who kept pouring gasoline all over himself and lighting a match…time after time after time after time.
In the micro it was hilarious watching somebody lose their poise and begin the self-immolation series to that degree but in the macro, it doesn’t make for a good place to talk about the Great Game.
I said “terrible situation” because it no longer became fun to watch.
I also thought the Ghost handled a terrible situation quite well.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
You think JD should apologize to MY.
Do you think you should apologize for contributing to, in your words, a toxic environment here?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
No.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
What, in your opinion...
is your contribution to the toxic environment?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
The environment was toxic for a time
last week.
Now, not so much. Today is just silliness (massive overreaction to a trade proposal…really?!)
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know the answer.
Is it because I don’t worship JD and often criticize him? Maybe.
I also praised JD for doing a very good job in 2010.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
You obviously like provoking a response.
You strut around like a banty rooster. But I’m asking, specifically, if you think the toxic environment was largely as a result of your actions.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I don't.
You’ve never seen me wish cancer on somebody or people in their family.
I don’t make up bullshit accusations about somebody being a racist.
I’ve never told anybody that I fucked their wife and that she was no good.
I’ve never told anybody that I fucked their mother and that she was no good.
I’ve never told anybody to kill themselves.
I’ve never lost my poise to the degree that I’d wish they would die or be murdered.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Do you think that's the only way to antagonize people?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Umm want to rethink that?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
FP
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
One of the days this weekend, he and GrandeEsteban
Got into it over the “Flagged” posts.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
One Saturday
I think it was Saturday, at least, I decided to respond to all of Josey’s posts one day with “flagged as troll,” and people hit the fucking roof with rage.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, so, won't do that anymore.
That doesn’t mean I won’t flag his posts, I just won’t mention that I am doing so.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Make it red!
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Well
I don’t really agree with it but it also absolutely does not affect me or anybody else so if you want to flag them for Adam and GoET and Ben, I guess that’s your call.
What I really fail to understand...
….is people get in pissing matches with him that go on for postafterpost, and nobody cares that much. Instead of arguing, I would write “flagged as troll” and move on, and a few people lost their damn minds about it.
I’m still unsure how writing “flagged as troll” is unforgiveable, but arguing with him is ok. Oh well, hivemind and all that.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
I wrote this angrily,
then went back and edited out all of the cursing because I think JBI just doesn’t have enough exposure to realize how bad Josie is.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
I have plenty of exposure
I read almost all the morning threads – the only thing I don’t pay attention to are game day threads and insanely OT tangents. I don’t post at the frequency of other people; mostly because I don’t see the point of arguing with someone who is stubborn. But there is no law against being stubborn – hell, most everyone around here is stubborn in their way.
I know everyone hates Josey. And he’s not my favorite poster either. But when him saying anything at all results in 10 people saying he’s a moron, it isn’t surprising that he fights back.
But whatever, it isn’t my board. I’m sorry I even got into the “lets bash Josey” foray.
Go Rice Owls!
Please point out the 10 people that called Josey a moron.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
You're getting pissed at us for mistreating Josey.
I went back to read through the responses (including mine), and none of them were over the top until it went from “Josey proposed stupid trade” to “Josey makes trolling statement about the team.”
So yeah, seriously. If you could point out where people called him a moron for his trade proposal, that would be great.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
You know...
LSJ did a really good thing last week when he created an OT Planet for you and your ilk called Tamponia.
It was a perfect place to go when you didn’t like the direction of baseball conversation – you could discuss taco, pies, school loans, lawyer bullshit, what women want, television show, music – anything you wanted.
I did nothing more this morning than propose a trade that might make sense for both the Cards & Rangers given the very recent news on Wainwright.
That’s not trolling in any form or fashion and those that are accusing me of it are the people who are guilty of attempting to make this place toxic.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Where is JBLmaknee to come in and defend FP now?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
This is exactly the type of post that GoET said he'd moderate.
Dollars to donuts GoET doesn’t do anything.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
Bitching at the ref...
doesn’t help Mark Cuban, either.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
It probably made him feel better
that he had at least passed on some of his annoyance to them.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
It made me feel better to state that I thought GoET was being ridiculous, too.
In the end, yeah, that didn’t do anything. Just like everything anyone does here. What happens as a result?
Nothing.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Ben has never said he would take action.
And Ben never chastized the board for responding to Josey in negative ways. Waaaaay different.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
I do think...
the over-the-top stuff over the last couple of weeks is unnecessary.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
A significant fraction...
of posts on the board are now meta bullshit about Josey. It’s just as aggravating as Josey himself is.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
There is a great deal of tension here, yes.
And it is all due to Josey, yes. So you want people to just bite their tongues because you don’t like it or what?
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
It's all due to Josey, indeed.
That’s ridiculous.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
It's actually not.
You are blind if you think that all the shit you are bitching about isn’t solved if Josey died today.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
That's our disagreement.
I say he was acting irresponsibly, he says I was mis-reading his commentary. Both are probably true.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
None of it was trolling
His trade idea may have been dumb and far too little but it is actually a decent starting point for negotiations
And his theory that it doesn’t bode well for our chances actually makes a bit of sense too.
the Cards are in a similar boat as us. they have a good chance at their division and are going for it in 2011. if they would rather roll with Rasmus and Kevin Millwood or Jeremy Bonderman instead of Borbon, Hunter and a prospect or two it may mean our guys aren’t what some of us think they may be.
Or it means
they value what they know instead of the unknown. Or it means they feel like they might be able to get more at a later date for Rasmus. I hardly think the Cardinals not wanting those guys means a thing for the Rangers.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
No
I was resonsding to your ridiculous assertion that if the Cardinals don’t want them, they won’t be any good.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Yep.
It’s Pavlov’s dog in here, Josey posts and the synapses to the brain scream ‘troll’, and the fingers type it.
Could have been decent trade proposal talk.
Que sera, sera.
You are so ridiculous
no one got mad about the trade proposal. They just said it wasn’t enough. The flaming started when Josey said if Hunter and Borbon aren’t enough, the Rangers are in trouble this year. You are so quick to defend Josey you don’t even read correctly.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
No, actually if you read Steve's post
he brought up the point of Hunter and Borbon, and I agreed. I read it just fine.
Que sera, sera.
Borbon and Hunter
aren’t one of the 10 best players on this team.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Its really no different from the comments he made yesterday
which AJM kept trying to confront him on.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Look
I’m not arguing about any of that. I’m merely pointing out that it wasn’t the trade proposal that others have considered trolling. I’m not saying anyone is right. What I am saying is that he keeps pointing at one thing as the statement that others believe is trolling when in reality it seems everyone agrees that it wasn’t the trade proposal.
Whether or not I think he’s trolling is irrelevant. I do think that he has continually missed the point of every poster who has actually claimed he is trolling. I will at least say that his contribution to this thread has been moronic in that regard.
What's that mean?
I didn't think the trade request was trolling
neither did Esquire.
Your dumb comments about what is says about players we’re “relying on” is close to trolling. Still, I tend to agree with JBl about your comments regarding the players. Dumb, but probably not trolling…
the post I’m responding too… trolling and I’m flagging it as such.
I don’t have a problem with you most of the time, and I think a large number of people on the board bait you just as much as you bait them but this is unnecessary.
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
JB
rolling with the even though he beats his wife, he does buy her nice things sometimes defense. JW beats us 90% of the time, the one time a week he comes home with earrings doesn’t make him a good citizen.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not trolling anything.
I proposed the trade.
You said it wasn’t good enough.
If (I happen to believe it is good enough) that trade proposal really isn’t good enough, that doesn’t say much for us because we’re depending on both Borbon & Hunter quite a bit.
You’re the person dissing our own players.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
So you're upset that I'm "dissing" Julio Borbon?
Do I really need to go track down all the times you’ve talked shit about him?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I'm not upset at anything.
I proposed the trade because I thought the Cards are in “win now” mode…the Pujols Situation…and they need major league talent that can play right now.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
And as it turns out, the guy you have them trading (Rasmus) is better than the guys you have them acquiring.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Facts
Josey doesn’t believe in facts.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
The reason the Cards are getting multiple players
back is because the best player in the trade is Rasmus.
Borbon, who might be more of a NL player, can fill the CF hole plus they get an experienced starting pitcher and a nice project in Harrison.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Are we trading
Borbon or Judy?
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 23, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Yes
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
Buff, he's got the stuff
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Oh well then by all means, substitute Moreland and then go after Pujols.
It doesn’t matter how good the package is, Moreland fills the hole at 1B and the Cards are getting multiple players! They’d be stupid to say no!
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Video game
Quantity for qaulity trades don’t work in real life.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
I've come to that conclusion.
It’s not that he trolls. He’s just dumb.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Like this?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
He's smart enough to not get banned.
Which I think means he’s smart enough to gather blackmail material.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Josey likes blackmen's material?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Care to elaborate?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
I heard it from a players wife
The other day while waiting on a plane.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I wouldn't say they're counting 'very heavily' on Borbon
though they expect a lot more. If he doesn’t come through it won’t be disastrous by any means.
If he doesn't come through, Josh is going to be in CF.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Why would the Cards do that?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Cause JW said so!
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
well why not ask them to kick in Pujols then.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Young, Borbon, Hunter Harrison
for Rasmus + Theriot and his 3M is more likely of a deal
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Nick Punto also just went down, fwiw.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
No, but both have equal grit.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
for how long?
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
6-10 weeks I believe.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
not as bad as I thought...
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
You'd have to pay $30+ million of Young's salary.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
They're not going to take on Young's contract.
JD’s gotta wear that one and will be lucky if moving him doesn’t cost us $ 24 million.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
link?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 23, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
See above
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Look below
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
by boomer1 on Feb 23, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This is the very definition of doublethink.
JD has treated Young badly, and Young is deservedly angry. JD gave Young a ridiculous contract overpaying him.
Michael Young is right to demand a trade. Michael Young should not be traded.
You’re all about holding contradictory thoughts simultaneously.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Feb 23, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Double postings!
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
gosh
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
x
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
by boomer1 on Feb 23, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Soooo...Holland, Harrison, Borbon for Rasmus?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Now you've got their attention.
But it’s still not enough.
You’d need to sub Beltre in for Borbon to have a shot.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I doubt it
The Cards are in “win now” mode. They aren’t going to trade their starting CF for pieces to help them in the future.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 23, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
May be true. With Wainwright going down, though, they might be more receptive.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Kirkman and Holland?
That’s a steep price in ready now pitching.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
oh yeah
I’m sure they will say that. I’m sure every GM in the league would say “Hold on a sec, pal. I believe your Michael Kirkman is far superior to your Matt Harrison.”
They certainly wouldn’t say “If you keep swapping out shit for shit, it’s not going to make me like this deal any more”
Dave Duncan likes guys like Harrison.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
I half hope that Harry gets traded into Dave Duncan's wings
just to make me look less crazy.
Go Rice Owls!
I still think Harrison still has good potential.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
That was just an example.
If we initially offered a package of Holland, Borbon, and Harrison, they might wanna mix it up w/ different arms. Doesn’t have to be Kirkman, but can’t be Perez.
Que sera, sera.
This.
It cannot be Perez.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Then the Cardinals hang up the phone, more than likely.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
And if they run in Kevin Millwood, they're not going to
come close to winning the NL Central or making the Wild Card.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
Doen't say much for the Cardinals chances in 2011
They are counting heavily on Rasmus
"I know that I know nothing" ~Socrates
by Felix is fast on Feb 23, 2011 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually
I think the Cards would probably prefer Hunter over Holland. They’re in a win now mode, particularly with Pujols. And Hunter gives them more of a chance to win in 2011 than Holland does.
I actually don’t think Josey’s deal is entirely crazy. I think Hunter + Borbon + Harrison is too little, of course. But throw in a decent but not premium prospect and you may be able to get a deal done. If Wainwright is out, the Cards have a serious problem. They may or may not lose Pujols in a year. Keeping him is probably not trivially related to whether they are successful this year. Hunter at least gives them an innings eater who they can rely on a bit; sure maybe they could go get Millwood for the same, but Hunter at least has some long term value.
Go Rice Owls!
I think the craziest part of that trade proposal
is based on how much he trashes Borbon and calls him worthless. In that trade proposal, he’s expecting St. Louis to actually place value in Borbon, which pretty much goes against everything he’s said about Borbon over the past 2 years.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
well
is it internally consistent? No. Does it properly weigh trade values of the pieces? No. But as a discussion starter, it isn’t as insane as many of the things you see around here.
Go Rice Owls!
In hindsight,
it seems like he set it up as bait.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
He did
The trade proposal was stupid, which he can’t help. The response that just because the Cardinals won’t accept Hunter in a trade for one of the best young OF’ers in the game means he will suck this year was trolling.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Honestly
I don’t think he did; I think people read too much into Josey’s motives. I think he made a proposal – not greatly thought out, in that it is probably lacking a couple of decent minor league prospects, but one that has some logic in building. He was then mocked for making the proposal. So that mocking set him off into some of his reflexive fights. That then incited the “hey, Josey is being Josey” crowd, and then it got nutty.
Maybe I’m being naive, but I don’t think Josey is intentionally causing trouble at all here.
Go Rice Owls!
Spend a week in morning threads.
It’s incredibly repetitive and frustrating to the point of pain.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Nevermind
I’ll just answer it this way. Yes, you are being naive…
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
I agree
Rasmus is good no doubt but getting back Borbon and Hunter would fill multiple holes on their team while also possibly giving them more room to keep Pujols (Rasmus will be arb eligible after 2011 and will likely get a pretty big bump in salary whereas Hunter and Borbon will both still be pre-arb and even when they hit arb won’t be too expensive)
Obviously it would probably take another prospect but you could probably make that some low level high ceiling type.
What people don't get
and what Josey probably does is that real teams make moves to fill holes; not to simply maximize possible return at every chance they get. KC traded Greinke to Milwaukee, because they gave them the pieces that they needed to have. They weren’t stupid for taking a lesser offer as viewd in a vacuum, because the offer they received had value to them.
In the case of the Cards, if they actually are trying to behind the scenes trade Rasmus (but oddly decided that they don’t want to have a press conference saying that they have to trade him), they may in fact be looking for a good defensive CF, an innings eater starter to replace Wainwright’s innings, and a good arm for the bullpen. We don’t know anything, of course, but two of those pieces would at least make sense for them…
Go Rice Owls!
I'm kind of hoping that Hunter
is in a package for a trade at the deadline for a better player. By that point, I’m expect/hope that Holland will have turned his peripherals into better results and the Rangers will feel comfortable that he really is on his way to reaching something close to his ceiling, making him basically untradeable.
If Hunter, in front of this great defense, can keep it going for just 6 months more and then be traded to a team that overvalues wins, that would be perfect.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
they can get a pitcher like Hunter
and not give up Rasmus to do it. Borbon and Harrison or Holland are certainly not going to tip the scales in our favor.
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
As we saw with the Greinke trade
If a team sets their hearts on acquiring a certain type of player they may do it despite it not being the best deal they could probably get
the Greinke trade is a bad comp
KC had multiple holes they wanted to fill, and decided to do that with the Greinke trade. STL wouldn’t be in that position.
with Wainwright down (if he is) the Cards would be looking for a pitcher, and there are lots of Hunters out there. So giving up Rasmus for him becomes unnecessary.
Hunter/Borbon/Harrison for Rasmus because Wainwright is down is asking STL to further weaken their team in order fill holes that the trade itself is partly creating.
That’s a dumb trade, and one STL wouldn’t do.
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
Well
if StL really would want to move Rasmus today (say they don’t see him as a CF, and they have Berkman and Holliday manning the corners), the equation changes. While you say Hunter isn’t nearly good enough (I’d agree), it isn’t like there are dozens of better alternatives out there. Maybe they could get Blanton (and Philly may well pay his salary to make that deal), but I don’t know if St Louis wants to send Rasmus to fix the biggest weakness of Philly. There is a bit of circular logic too when it comes to teams being willing to trade pitchers better than Hunter right now – if teams have guys better than Hunter who are available; they probably are good enough to at least imagine that can contend in 2011.
Go Rice Owls!
I don't really think STL is looking to unload Rasmus
and I don’t think they’re looking to further weaken their team by trading him for a pitcher like Hunter (or Holland or Harrison for that matter).
If anything, working STL over to give up Shelby Miller for Hunter would seem to make more sense from STL’s point of view.
Of course, somehow getting Shelby Miller from STL for Hunter would be enough to firmly entrench JD at Yoda level jedi. It isn’t happening either, but I would think getting STL to give up a farm piece for a “lesser” ML piece would be easier to do than getting them to weaken their ML team even further.
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
The Cards aren't trading Rasmus.
See guys, this is all you needed to say.
by Giant Space Ants on Feb 23, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
If so, good luck sailing on the SS Millwood.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Is their resulting rotation...
really any worse than ours at the start of the ’10 season?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I don't know their roster or what they have below in the minors.
I do think they were needing Wainwright to give them 200+ very high quality IPs this season.
Hunter can soak up innings and who knows if they’d put Harrison in the bully and bump somebody else up to the rotation or try and make Harrison a starter.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not saying....
their resulting rotation including the pieces from your proposed trade. I’m saying, is their rotation sans Wainwright any worse than the Rangers’ 2010 rotation?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
No, but their competition in the division is probably harder.
Especially with Milwaukee’s improvements. Do they feel they need consistent IPs or Rasmus’ bat more this year? I’d guess Rasmus, but knowing the history b/w Rasmus and LaRussa, now might be the best opportunity to change their mind.
Que sera, sera.
Hard to say...
The 2010 Rangers gave up 687 runs (the Cards gave up 241 runs but don’t have to face a DH).
Wainwright gave the Cards 230 IPs and a 2.42 ERA. They’re also depending on a 36 year old Carpenter and lot of other stuff.
I honestly can’t say.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
The whole asking for a link thing was funny at first
now I find it to be pretty ‘bleh’
Adding pictures though is an interesting twist that I like, at the moment. Even though I’m not big into Legend of Zelda.. at all.. =O
Still waiting on you
to hold up your end of the TCU vs. Baylor bet…
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
He can't computers don't have testicles.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
You might need to take a break after that.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Did you watch...
Tosh.O last night?
Pretty funny reference to Donkey Kong in there.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
That was hilarious.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
tosh isnt funny
hes a homosexual right?
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 23, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
not saying he isnt funny because hes a homosexual
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 23, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
thanks for clearing that up
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 23, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
It was fantastic...
I was laughing my ass off when he started throwing the barrels.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
>not big on legend of zelda
what the shit
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Feb 23, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Comments from Josey today:
That doesn’t say a whole lot about our chances in 2011.
The Rangers are counting very heavily on both Hunter & Borbon.
Starts off with a trade proposal that is undervalued so that he can get to this. A chance to use complete logical failure to help ‘support’ previous points he’s made regarding the offseason and JD.
Even his seemingly positive first comment:
I had no problem with JD’s age…Theo performed his job at the highest level
and has become one of the best GMs in the game at essentially the same age.
is trolling when taken with the rest of posts. He’s trying to bait people into getting into an argument about whether or not JD, BA’s 2010 Executive of the year, is a good GM and setting up a ridiculous comparison in Theo.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
Also calling the OT threads "tamponia" or whatever phrase he used is pretty obvious trolling.
In fact, it’s exactly what GoET promised to moderate.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
At this point...
you and GB and some others thing that Josey typing something and hitting “Post” qualifies as trolling.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Feb 23, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Pointing out one post today is suggesting that all of his posts are trolls?
I’m dying to hear how you justify that one.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
I've said repeatedly that the original trade proposal was not trolling.
It was stupid, but it wasn’t trolling. His next post was.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
He's a Ranger Eeyore.
So is Cahill. Nobody says Cahill is trolling when he goes Full Eeyore.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Because Cahill can be convinced with logic or data,
or convince somebody else with his logic and data. And if not, people can agree to disagree about the inherent assumptions and move on.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
So if Josey...
would always say “you’re right” to your responses, he would cease being a troll?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I disagree with plenty of people here on various things
including you, AJM, Cahill, JBI, FuturePants and virtually everybody at some point or another. I’m not interested in hearing “I’m right”; in fact, I am glad when I am corrected on stuff that I’m wrong about. It sucks to be wrong and I’d like to think I have some decent reasoning for what I’m defending, but I’m not so afraid of being wrong as to never admit it.
If Josey wouldn’t try to continually incite the board, I could handle that we (the baseball community at large, beyond LSB) disagree strongly about JD, the front office, and the quality of this team in 2011. That he does continually do so, using terrible logic, twisted stats and often inflammatory language, makes him a troll.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
But it's the fact that he's an Eeyore...
that incites the board.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
No its not.
That’s absurd considering you just admitted that despite being an Eeyore, nobody gets all inflamed about Cahill.
Can you clarify this reference
I know who he is (donkey from Pooh) but I don’t know what you mean by it.
going full retard
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Eeyore...
always thought the sky was falling. He was a clinically depressed donkey who thought everything was always going to turn to shit.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Or the resident emo.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Ah
I mean Josey isn’t exactly that. He just hates JD.
Neither here nor there…but I guess it’s more accurate to say that’s what incites LSB because most people (overwhelming number) love JD.
That oversimplifies it.
If he just hated JD, that would be one thing. Injecting it into every argument, whether relating to JD or not, is another.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Well, it's still pretty simple
he really likes MY, likes Nolan, hates JD. Hates some other players, loves some other players
I guess the issue is more that love/hate is unabashed and unwavering, not open to logic.
I can agree on that.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I don't think it's just that he hates JD.
His predictions are always gloom and doom.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
There's no one thing, you could go on and on.
Anything negative about Michael Young is wrong. Anything positive about JD is wrong. Anything negative about Nolan is wrong. Anything positive about Chris Davis is wrong. Positive about Borbon— wrong. Positive about the Rangers in 2011 and beyond— wrong.
Etc. etc. etc. etc.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
well
he didn’t really like Hart or Hicks either. I’m assuming it’s been a while since he liked anybody in the FO. But he likes Ryan
Completely admire everything about Nolan Ryan.
I’ve also said over and over how I want the Rangers to keep both Borbon & Davis in the organization this year. I’m just not sure either player is ready to contribute to a winning team in The Show.
The rest of the team? I love some and like others.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
who plays centerfield
if not Borbon, then who? are you willing to risk 162 games of Hamilton in center despite the fact that a) he’s not as good defensively there, and b) he’s more likely to get hurt there?
A much shorter sig.
I wanted the organization to prioritize acquiring a
RH OF who could also play a representative CF this past off-season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
But yet, you think Borbon has the value to be a key component of a trade for Colby Rasmus
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
The Cards appear to need starting
pitching and they’re also in “Win Now” mode because of The Pujols Situation.
They’d be plugging a hole in CF and their rotation and taking a flyer on a young pitcher.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
But how would they be plugging a CF hole if they're using a guy who cannot competently handle the job?
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
it may be reasonable to suspect
that Borbon is more suited to be a National League player than an American League player.
Go Rice Owls!
And I said this earlier about Borbon.
He might be a much better player in the NL.
The Cards are in scramble mode if they don’t have Wainwright and they’re not going to be able to acquire an ace at this point.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I imagine Borbon
is one of those guys who some organization / staffs are going to be drawn to, whereas other people will be repulsed by. Same goes for Tommy Hunter, for that matter.
I honestly have no idea about St Louis – much of this discussion relies on how much they want to move Rasmus. From a detached perspective, it seems crazy that they would want to. But in reality, who knows. If they really want to move him, AND they happen to place above average value on pieces on the Rangers, it is always possible.
Unfortunately, I haven’t seen any real evidence lately that the Cards really want to move Rasmus; which kind of makes this discussion moot).
Go Rice Owls!
And upon further review...
I’m not entirely sure the Rangers are in a position to make that trade from our end especially with Webb being such a question mark.
Kruk said a Ranger coach told him that they aren’t expecting anything from Webb until June or July.
So we make that trade…what does that leave for starting rotation candidates?
CJ, Cobra, Holland, Kirkman, Bush, McClung, Ogando and Feliz.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I'd say the chances of Ogando starting are less than me becoming a millionaire overnight.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
That is an issue too
I think if you’re Texas; you make that trade, you go sign Millwood and stick in him the rotation – clearly the opportunity to add Rasmus is too good to pass up.
And don’t leave out Harry… :)
Go Rice Owls!
I included Harrison with Hunter & Borbon.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
ah, that is right
Dave Duncan is going to turn Harry into the next Cliff Lee and make me look like a genius :)
Go Rice Owls!
Hold the phone...call Starkist...
Say the Cards came to the Rangers and said they’d trade us Rasmus for CJ & Borbon…
What else would you need from St.Louis to do this trade?
Don’t they have some stud, Shelby Miller (?) or somesuch in their system?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
how does Shelby Miller
help us win in 2011?
Unless you have a plan on how we can flip him to replace CJ…
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
I'd need more than Rasmus & Milller
for CJ & Borbon.
Just don’t know what they have to give up.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
that isn't the point
why do you want to give up possibly your best pitcher for Rasmus + Miller + whatever ?
Are you trying to win 2011 or not? If so, how do you replace CJ, and STL isn’t going to do it. So, how?
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
He's trying to help STL
Win this year.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Just kicking it around Elvis...
I’d like to have my cake and eat it as well.
Trying to win this year and acquiring more very good players under the age of 28.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
If they want to take a flyer on a young pitcher
they have young pitchers available to do so without trading Colby Rasmus. The talk has been about moving Kyle McClellan to the rotation.
They’ve just lost arguably the NL Cy Young winner. A guy who threw 230+ innings with an ERA under 2.5
Tommy Hunter is no replacement for that.
A much shorter sig.
Calling somebody "Eeyore" is funny and I will reissue.
For the record, I called the Rangers a very dangerous team to face after they bonded together to triumph over the Rays and I also picked them to beat the Giants in the World Series in 5 games.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
You called them a dangerous team after they beat the Rays?
I hear Hitler called the Red Army dangerous after they marched into Berlin.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Feb 23, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't remember every example from sports that I cited
after they beat the Rays but one example was the ’99 Stars team that rallied from a 3-2 deficit to defeat the Avs in the WC Finals.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
No,
it’s in constant egomaniacal approach to ‘predictions’, evaluations of JD/FO and players, and his low blows at posters who are disagreeing with him that incites the board.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
I don't understand why people don't just Z over it.
Or use the troll script (which was developed in response to Josey).
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Feb 23, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Are you sure?
You were the one that thought of the idea but I believe it was in response to Seven, no?
At least, he bugged me infinitely more than Josey. He yelled at CJ for thinking this team was good.
Think about that.
Somebody wrote an entire script because of one poster. Doesn’t that tell you anything?
And it’s hard to z through hundreds of comments. When the percentage of posts that Josey arguing takes up reaches a certain point, the whole thing becomes pointless.
How much good conversation do we lose because people get beat down from Josey and the arguing he creates?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 10 recs
Green
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I don't know.
Josey’s comments in this thread could probably be counted on one or two hands. Comments about Josey, get prepared to take off your mittens and socks, and then you still won’t have enough to count them.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Which you are complaining about...
….and which you are contributing to today.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
Totally agree.
I feel like I have to get here early so I can see which conversations are interesting, and which ones stink of Josey.
Why should we have to get an app/troll script for one person?
My z button is worn out because of all of JW’s bullshit. It just gets old when he sounds like a broken record day in and day out. He is not stupid he is trying to get all of the community worked up.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
do you think that Josey
posts certain opinions/sayings/nicknames, most of the time its the same crap over and over, purposely because he knows it will incite some?
Of course he does.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Yeah.
But if that’s a bannable offense this place would be a ghost town.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I don't know if that's true
I’d probably get banned but you could easily have a place that does that.
I think the cowboys site is pretty close to that, actually.
Fair enough for me as long as you can see that it is trolling
I think that it’s a bannable offense because he does it constantly. But if you mods rule that the ban hammer should only be used in the most serious of cases, I can live with that.
I think he should be banned but I also can ignore him and z through his drivel.
why not
spell out exactly what is bannable and what isn’t?
by matt dillion on Feb 23, 2011 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
I had somewhat of a disagreement with Cahill yesterday
Concerning Derek Holland. It seemed to be a fairly logical argument that was cleared up when I differentiated that I was talking about predicting future success (2011 performance) and not what he had already accomplished. There was a misunderstanding. Once it was explained, any disagreement seemed to vanish.
What's that mean?
As did I with Holland and Bush
We debated and moved on. No biggie.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Dan at his worst is infinitely more tolerable than Josey at his best.
Cahill at his worst also doesn’t drive smart people away from this site in droves. I am not and haven’t been hesitant to argue with him because even when he’s in full-curmudgeon mode, it’s obvious there’s a reasonable human being beneath it all.
by LiamP on Feb 23, 2011 12:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So we have to leave
before anything will be done?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
We could all leave and nothing will happen.
Remember a couple of years ago how AJM promised he would delete anyone getting into arguments about Hank Blalock versus Chris Davis? Exactly zero of those arguments got deleted after his threat.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
In fact..
….the more absurd this situation gets, the more comments this site seems to get. This whole dispute is like AJM gold.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
I fail to see
how more posts gives AJM money.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Just a joke.
AJM likes traffic, the number of posts has not been affected even a tiny bit by this situation, so naturally, AJM don’t care. Why should he?
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
You're probably right.
But still, nothing about what has happened has affected this site negatively in terms of traffic/views/whatever.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
But it's not....
Josey and Adam or whatever making the situation absurd.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
correct
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
If you don't recognize...
the community’s contribution, I guess you just don’t recognize it. When I used to fight with Adam and Sam as a kid, it was always their fault, too.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
But without Josey..
….the problem is solved. That literally is one person.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
If froggy had wings...
he wouldn’t bump his ass when he hops.
Honestly, this is like dealing with kids and “he’s looking at me” and “she’s touching me” and that kind of bullshit.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
It really isn't.
If Josey – or anyone – makes a comment about having too many cocks in your mouth at once, or how your mother has the “ass of an elephant,” I think it’s perfectly reasonable to issue a 1 day temporary ban.
This is not people being pouty – this is a majority of the board identifying a problem and pleading with management to do something about it. Obviously that isn’t going to happen, so people are trying anything they can to effectuate change. As a result, the moderators bitch.
There is no winning here.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Is this the angry dome?
There is a fairly significant amount of that having nothing to do with Josey. I’m not saying I disagree.. I don’t think most boards are the Wild West that the angry dome is… but this board would be very different if it were moderated in the manner you suggest, far beyond Josey.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Yeah...
I think people wouldn’t be too pleased with LoL moderation rules, for instance.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
/Matthew
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Nobody
Literally nobody is suggesting anything close to Lookoutlanding, and you know it. Quit being difficult.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah.
You just want to ban this one guy. And if someone else comes along that’s irritating, you’ll just want to ban that one guy, too.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
No, for the fiftieth time:
I am not now, nor have I ever suggested that anyone, much less the user, get a permanent ban.
Nor have I.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
If board moderation...
is run by mob rule, it’s subject to abuse.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
You are greatly exaggerating
the response that we are asking for and greatly underrating the level of instigation it has taken to get us to this point.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
First they came for Josey...
but I said nothing, because Josey’s an assclown.
Then they came for brettgardner, and I said nothing because fuck that guy.
Then they came for GhettoBear….
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Feb 23, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm not sure a slippery slope argument works.
It’s not like you’re establishing precedent you would be forced to follow at every point thereafter.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Why not?
If the board moderators ban Josey, they send the message that sufficient agitation will get someone banned.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
You're hiding behind the threat of hypothetical future trolls.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
You don't think
that you’ve created a sufficiently high enough bar to be hurdled for this to be quite difficult to happen again?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, good grief.
WE’RE NOT EVEN ASKING YOU TO PERMANENTLY BAN HIM!
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
Just a TIME OUT is all we are asking for.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I would be down with that
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Hell just go back and see what
He has posted about me.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I can't speak for LSB
but saw several leave the Newberg. then he got banned and came over here and started trolling.
by matt dillion on Feb 23, 2011 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
and as soon as he left Newberg and came over here
all the nitwits that argued with him over on Newberg left Newberg and came over here.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Like Aquaman, FP and myself?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
Well, you drove him off NMLR
seems if you want a Josey free zone, you’ve got one over there. Seems like after you ran him off that place should be heaven on earth to listen to all you whiners.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
I never was, nor am I now on NMLR.
I don’t think I can tolerate any more stories about Max playing teeball.
I have never been on NMLR
Everything that has to do with the Newberg is mysterious to me.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 6:50 PM CST up reply actions
It's because he's killed all those people
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
I have never posted on NMLR.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I have.
I think I made Mike Hindman quit the minor league updates.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Of course
Benmor is one of the largest trolls on the board. Most of the time he makes appearances is to pick fights with people.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
by DJCahill on Feb 23, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
hehe...I love this comment
I don’t remember the last time he showed up just to say “Man I love Josh Hamilton.”
Hell, he usually doesn't show up
to say anything, good or bad about the Rangers. All he does is bitch about posters or get into arguments with them.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
It's funny most of the time
you actually call me out on a specific post about being negative, my prediction ends up dead on, and you look about as stupid as most high school dropouts.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
by DJCahill on Feb 23, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
meh...
I don’t recall a specific incident of this ever occurring. Cahill’s just doing a “get off my lawn, somebody take me to Luby’s” bit.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I don't understand why those all went out of business
Furr’s, Luby’s. And now, with the baby boomers, shouldn’t they all come roaring back?
Should I be opening a cafeteria chain?
I always liked Colonial Cafeteria.
Used to go there all the time with my dad.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
THIS
Man I miss that place. I still hit up Luby’s every once in a while, but it’s just not the same.
Wyatt’s was the shit.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Maybe but I doubt it
It was kind of a big deal but we probably know more about because it was in Texas.
And didn’t Luby’s stick around well past the other cafeterias?
Probably...
the death of cafeteria’s is correlated to the rise of buffets.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
There's also Chinese buffets.
and pizza buffets. Probably those things weren’t as prevalent when cafeterias were in full swing.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
*raises hand*
I’d go all the time. I wish they would make a comeback. It’s hard to even find a Luby’s these days.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Nah... mass shooting was damn near 20 years ago.
I ate at Luby’s six months ago with my grandmother.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
I think Luby's etc
started to have trouble because the baby boomers and following generations grew up eating a wider range of food (asian food, mexican, etc) that had a lot more flavor. So cafeterias, who typically serve standard american fare while trying to minimize really strong flavors (offend the fewest people) don’t appeal to people who grew up with salt used in their food. I don’t think that simply by getting older will make the current generations drawn to them any more.
And as Ben says, those alternative cuisines are much more prevalent in buffet form. So I think traditional cafeterias are doomed unless you can adjust the model a bit.
Go Rice Owls!
No, I think there's a fallacy here
Old people don’t like bland food because they grew up on bland food, they like bland food because that’s what they like once they get old. Salt effs up the digestive system, etc.
I think once the baby boomers get real old, they will definitely clamor for cafeteria food
Actually
I’ve always like bland food… because my grandmother overcooked the shit out of everthing.
And her and I also routinely enjoyed Luby’s together. I’m a month under 33.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
well, I don't know if it is a fallacy
But I could be convinced that the direction of causation is as you say instead of as I say.
Go Rice Owls!
I haven't been since that happened. Thank god. I always hated it as a kid.
Of course, most of my family lived in Killeen at the time.
I went to cafeterias way too many times as a kid
and I am secretly peeved that other kids don’t have to experience the hell.
My friends family owned Luby's
/CSB
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
I would say
that the boomers have enough money to go out and spend it in an actual restaurant. Cafeteria’s were for their parents. They have made it and can afford a real meal at a real restaurant.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
The difference between Cahill and Josey
Is Josey is here to spread his message of doom and gloom and just need other actors to play their parts for the play he’s concoted in his head.
Cahill does listen and while more pessimistic than a typical “fan”, it’s clear he’s not completely ignoring the opinions of others.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Cahill imparts his fair share of wisdom, too.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
That actually matters less to me.
Even if I think someone’s opinions are routinely incorrect (I’m looking at you scoop), I take no offense to them having them.
That’s the lesson I learned trying to discuss a point with Josey… when I realized that he just needed someone to reply… ANY REPLY… just so he can further discuss his point… well that’s not worth my time.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
I agree
Cahill’s opinions have merit. They are well thought out and well reasoned.
But just because I disagree with someone isn’t going to make me wish they didn’t post here.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
I could do without irrational opinions
and the only reason I wouldn’t want the poster gone is if I had hope that they would understand why their opinion was irrational (or why they were being irrational) and change to have more rational opinions.
Not “I’m a fan” irrationality – I can have patience for those. But just stupidity irrationality
I disagree with several of your opinions.
We have a wager on one of them. But I’ve never wished you didn’t post here… I think you’re a fine poster.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
This is a fine poster
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
by boomer1 on Feb 23, 2011 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I really don't like that poster
I don’t think she’s attractive at all in it. She looks old and it foreshadows what she ended up looking like after she got old.
And while I understand that appeal of seeing cleavage and a nipple in the 70’s, definitely doesn’t hold up.
In 1977, it was pretty fucking spectacular.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
I know we disagree about Beltre,
I was just wondering how I was routinely incorrect.
I mean Alyssa Milano and Barry Bonds are pretty sure-fire corrects.
Que sera, sera.
I can't remember all of them.
Beltre is the big one.
I want to say there was some Mike Young stuff we disagreed on. I just remember thinking more than once, “I disagree with that.”
Alyssa Milano isn’t up for debate. If people don’t think she’s got HOF credentials, they’re not “disagreeing”, they’re just homosexuals.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Exactly.
Which is why I don’t get mad because someone disagree with me. I’m wrong all the time.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Kicking the ball around...if Beltre
puts up a 3.5 WAR in 2011, should we conclude that Decline has taken a bite outta his ass?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
If he's healthy throughout the year
Then maybe. But I would be pretty surprised if a healthy Beltre doesn’t perform at an All Star level with our club, in this lineup, with our park.
But that’s just like my opinion man.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Naw, he's a roller coaster of inconsistency.
He might go 5 the next, and 2 the next.
Que sera, sera.
Beltre has had 1
season below below 2.5 WAR in his entire career and it was 10 years ago. He has 3 sub-3.0 WAR years in his 12 full years of major league play.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'm willing to think
he puts up nothing less than a 4.5 WAR for the next 4 years.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
A 4.5 WAR at age 35?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
4th year would actually be his year 36 season.
He turns 32 on April 7th, 2011.
That’s optimistic… but he’s got the glove and he’s playing in the right place to do it.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
And he'll be 35 on April 7, 2014
which will be his 4th season with the team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I had to use my fingers
2011
2012
2013
2014… shit, he’s right.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Yeah... sad but true. :)
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
I know. I put a smiley face and everything.
I deserved that remark, though.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Yes.
I believe he can do it. I’ll know more after watching him play at the RBiA, but I’m pretty sure with his glove and skill set, he can pull off a 4.5 WAR at 35. If Chipper Jones can do it, Beltre can.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
I'm a bit worried about that too
It isn’t that he can’t do it; I think guys with
Honestly, I think it is LSJ who brought it up at the time of Beltre’s signing – the guy whose path Beltre we should optimistically hope he follows is Scott Rolen, albeit healthier. Rolen has put up around 3-5 WAR for 4 of the last 5 years (comparable ages), and that is while missing a good number of games in the process.
Now, I’d say that is Beltre’s best reasonable scenario over the next 5 years- maybe with one big WAR season added in there. I think it is too optimistic to expect that, but it is reasonable to hope for Rolen
Go Rice Owls!
so he may be league average
one season and All-Star the next… and this is a bad thing?
When the worst you can say about a player is the ranges anywhere from average to fucking great… I’m not sure what the problem is.
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
The question was,
“If he puts up a 3.5, should we consider him in decline?”
I said no, because he fluctuates. I never said it was bad, just that I wouldn’t judge one year to indicate a decline.
Que sera, sera.
I think if any player puts up a 3.5
you have to be somewhat happy with it. That is a good contribution to the team.
That said, the concern I had about the contract was that you can’t really expect him to be giving you anything much bigger than that in the latter couple of years – he’s getting older. The counterargument was that he’d put up big enough numbers in his first few years to be worth the long-term cost. If he gives you an off year in 2011 or 2012, it will be pretty hard, though not impossible, for him to be worth the contract overall.
This was the problem with Young, FWIW. He wasn’t overpaid THAT much the first two years of his extension; but he didn’t accumulate any real added value to offset the almost certain decline going forward.
Go Rice Owls!
That's one of a few problems
I have with the deal.
Him being a good to AS level player isn’t one of them.
Que sera, sera.
yeah
really, my problem with his contract lies almost entirely in the last two years (2014-2015). Him putting up MVP numbers (per his 2010 season) in one of the next two seasons would do a lot to allow me to forgive any future overpayment.
Go Rice Owls!
you said
“roller coaster of inconsistency.”
The only thing really inconsistent is that he’s mostly an above average 3B but has seasons of pure brilliance.
Maybe it’s just me, but I wouldn’t label a player like that as a “roller coaster of inconsistency.”
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
I guess it's semantics, I find it a bumpy ride.
1.6
2.8
10.1
1.9
4.6
2.7
3.5
1.1
6.1
Que sera, sera.
Who's numbers are those?
Most of his career over the dotted 3 WAR line.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
13,8 WAR for 5 years of his prime?
Ouch.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
WTF? Are you British now?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
For some reason this made me laugh
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
British Josey Wales would be awesome.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
No it wouldn't.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Agreed
That Borbon bloke looks like he is light in his lofers. Spot of tea?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
It's funny
that kicking the ball around is your new catch phrase considering your past insulting of all things soccer…
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
Beauty school dropouts typically don't seem smart, either.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
He did say most.
And I wouldn’t disagree with that. I believe I am likely an exception and not the rule.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
yeah
I didn’t really think you’d be upset with his comment…
and you are an exception to the rule.
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
c'mere and give me a kiss you sweet bitch
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Feb 23, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
This made me laugh.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
So we shouldn't comment about things we do and don't like about LSB?
The community shouldn’t try to improve itself with new ideas or ideas taken from other blogs? We should let people post bad ideas or with bad logic and welcome them with open arms or a completely self-restrained and neutered response?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think...
that the responses of late are improving the community.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Sometimes you have to get sweaty
to lose the weight.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
I'm trying to refrain from using chemotherapy and invasive surgery
so as not to offend the cancer-sensitive folk.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Focus on the logical fallacies.
And then let it go.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
That's what I used to do.
That’s what anyone (new) who started to argue with Josey has been attempting to do. And then he’ll twist stats around and use absolutely ridiculous logic before resorting to hurling insults.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
So?
We know that’s how he is. Just shrug and move on. Every village needs an idiot.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
We've tried that.
It’s not working. When the idiot is diarrheaing all over the place, you either need to get rid of the idiot or leave the village.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
I can assure you...
that the community has not tried ignoring him. Not in the slightest.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Feb 23, 2011 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
There have certainly been concerted attempts to do so
The problem is viewing the ‘community’ as a singular entity.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
I'd say a good amount of people ignore him.
It’s a small percentage that is souring the experience for everyone else.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
No most villages would kill the idiot and move on
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
by boomer1 on Feb 23, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
JW's post do nothing for the community either
He needs to let the healing begin. The Rangers went to the MOTHER FUCKING WORLD SERIES and the bastard still can’t be happy.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
yep...
and they just don’t get it.
- Average poster says something dumb……completely ignored.
- Josey says something dumb…..lots of replies from people who can’t ignore it because they are too stupid.
As usual, Josey is not the problem…. idiots who respond with negativity are the problem. I seriously can’t believe this is such a tough concept for some people.
IGNORE HIM IF YOU DON’T LIKE WHAT HE SAYS!!
- LSB has ADD -
Well, the average posters usually get berated if they say what Josey said too.
The difference is they get berated based on the subject, not on who they are.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Yep, Josey is the victim here.
All of us meanies just need to leave him alone.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
What's fairly ironic is that some of us are now actually
having a few different discussions on the Great Game within this thread that are very civilized…including the original discussion that turned into Mrs. O’Leary’s cow.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I didn't say he was a victim.
I said he gets attacked based on who he is.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
CAN'T EVERYONE JUST STFU ABOUT IT
Good freaking grief this is worse than a bunch of junior high girls that won’t shut up about makeup. If you don’t like it ignore him or STFU.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Sorry.
I’m just kind of at the point where I’m fascinated by the amount of hatred people have developed for one poster.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
It was more a general comment.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Watch your mouth.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
He gets berated because he's acted like a douchebag to people over a long period of time.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Feb 24, 2011 2:16 AM CST up reply actions
So many people want Josey to be a troll so it can fit into their preconceived notion of the guy
I guarantee you if Adam of GoET or philkid made these same exact comments no one would come on here accusing them of trolling.
Are there problems with his comments…..yeah. but just because the guy has a opinion, regardless of how logical it sounds or how much you agree with it, hes still allowed to have that opinion.
They wouldn't make those comments
Especially the ones that are either borderline or full on personal attacks.
if Adam made the comment that Josey made today that apparently set all this off
it would have turned into good baseball discussion.
but because Josey made it it turned into attack after attack after attack and then bitching about Josey
When AJM posts things that don't make sense,
people address that, too.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
AJM is willing to hear and see reasoning
He isn’t 100% set in his position from now until eternity. People have differing opinions all the time on here. Most are able to see when they might be wrong and admit it.
So because he is bullish or stubborn with his opinions he is a troll?
Am I a troll because I believe pitchers have some control over their BABIP? Am I a troll because I don’t worship WAR, and FIP, and other advanced stats the way a lot on here do?
If you know he is stubborn and isn’t going to change his opinion why argue with him if it upsets you to the point of calling him a troll?
I rarely if ever argue with him.
I almost never engage him.
If you are completely unwilling to take any facts presented by other people into account when forming your opinions, you are either an idiot or a troll. There is always more information out there, completely shutting out anything that doesn’t side with your opinion is something idiots and trolls do.
You would be a troll
if every time somebody used one of those stats, you went around telling people that they were worshipping the stat. Having reservations about newer stats doesn’t make you a troll. Disagreeing with anyone on this board doesn’t make you a troll.
Posting specifically to piss people off makes you a troll.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
So everyone who is posting "Link?" to Josey is a troll by that definition
since they are specifically doing it to piss someone off.
Go Rice Owls!
I think people are doing that
to get a response from Admin, not Josey. Well, the response they want from Josey is for him to shut up.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
But if you want a response from the admin
you click ‘actions’ and ‘flag’
If you want him to shut up, it baffles me that people would think that taunting him is a solution. You know how they say that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
They want to poke him. That is what they are doing. They want to put up “Link?” to earn some recs and laughs and to hopefully get him to go bonkers and say something about Chris Davis and Hank Blalock and JD and Donuts. It is a deliberate attempt to antagonize and inflame the situation. It is every bit as much trolling as anything Josey does.
Go Rice Owls!
I agree with this.
I think Josey is clearly a troll. He will post statements with the clear goal of inciting an opposing opinion so he can argue about it. He doesn’t care what other people think, he just wants a soap box to get his message across. And he needs a straight man so to speak so he can throw his opinions out there.
If no one responds he will follow up a non-sequitor post with an additional bait post to try and get a reaction.
However, while the “Link?” and “Flagged” posts are kind of funny, they are also by definition trolling. I get why people do them… I think the “Link?” is way funnier, but that is definitely fighting fire with fire.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Listen,
I understand that our complaining has resulted in some highly annoying threads for those who either don’t care or are capable of ignoring the large subthreads where Josey goes trolling. I want to emphasize this: It’s not a permanent thing. I don’t plan on continually fighting this fight for the rest of the year or rest of the season.
What you’re seeing is the culmination of enough people finally getting fed up with him that lazy LSBers in their mothers’ basement are actually trying to ‘do’ something about it. It’s not going to last forever, but I feel like if we don’t take advantage of the support that’s behind it now, then nothing will ever change.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Spelling it out this way...
you’ve lost any support you may have had from me.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Why's that?
I really do feel bad that we ruin ‘bystanders’ morning thread experience.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
I am naturally inclined to resist...
any action I feel is trying to “force” me into doing something. If I feel like you’re holding a gun to my head I’ll say “pull the trigger” rather than do what you ask.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Ben's authority issues now even extend to people that try to reason with him.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
We're not talking about reasoning with me, though.
We’re talking about someone trying to force behavior through coordinated action. When if they applied this coordinated action to ignoring him, it would solve the problem.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
We've tried that.
Multiple times. We’ve even tried convincing other people to stop replying to him.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
Why would you do that?
We’re talking about you, and whoever else is that bothered by Josey. Why would you care if someone else responded to him?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Because they're often times
some of the ones who complain about him turning threads into a beating at other points in time.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
Then that's their fault.
Shake your head and move on.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
And, yet,
it still affects me.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see why.
You said you feel like it would be a failure to use the troll script. You seem to want to control not only your exposure to Josey, but everyone’s.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Because it hasn't addressed the
problem at large. I could also just leave these threads, though that comes at a different cost to me.
I do feel like I’m one of the few of the people who feel this way who are stubborn enough and have enough free time to argue with you (and GoET) for this long in order to get something accomplished…but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t a lot of others who do feel this way.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
You know what I would like to see?
I’d like to see Josey change his name.
I bet if Josey changed his name, and wasn’t allowed to insinuate or tell anyone that he was formerly Josey Wales, a lot of the problem would be solved, at least long enough for this to blow over.
Because right now what we have is a group of people just reflexively reacting every time his name pops up in a thread.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
So would he not be allowed to type, then?
I bet if Josey changed his name, and wasn’t allowed to insinuate or tell anyone that he was formerly Josey Wales
How long do you really think it would take to figure out?
when he was banned at the NEWBERG
and came back illegally as Billy Costigan Jr, he was sniffed out about 3 posts in.
by matt dillion on Feb 23, 2011 6:19 PM CST up reply actions
Actually, it took 2-3 weeks.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Actually it didn't.
Nor did it as Rowdy Yates. You are not a gifted writer.
by matt dillion on Feb 24, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
You're not giving the responders enough credit.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
You'd have to route all his posts through a series of translators.
Maybe if you went English → German → Spanish → French → English they wouldn’t be as immediately recognizable.
It was tried at NMLR a while ago
didn’t work.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Probably because
a lot of the shittier posters, like yourself, came over from NMLR to crap up what used to be a much better blogsite.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Cool
Not sure what that has to do with Josey going under a different screen name at NMLR and people still figuring out it was him.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
on NMLR
He changed it to Billy Costigan Jr after he was banned once. It’s quite obvious who he is after he starts posting like that.
"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ
by Dirk Diggler on Feb 23, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
heh
should have read down farther before making my post…
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
that happened on the Newberg forum
and people spent their time trying to figure out how to prove Billy Costigan (or whatever his name was) was actually Josey Whales.
Just leave him at Josey so everyone knows, and skip his comments.
When he trolls, just resist. It isn’t that hard really.
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
You don't think
we’d recognize him due to the stupid nicknames he gives to players and others in the organization?
A much shorter sig.
You'll dissapoint all the serial killer cabbies out there, though.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Is there a course of action
that we could take that would result in you or one of the other moderators temporarily banning Josey until the season starts?
A poll, a petition, 100 flags of his posts, a copy of all of his inflammatory comments, anything?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
I can't speak for Adam or GoET.
Although GoET has already said what action he is prepared to take.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Ok, same question, just you.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
I think you're being unreasonable.
Sure, there’s a collective action problem. But what right do you have to tell someone they shouldn’t be responding to Josey? If someone wants to respond to Josey, they can and should, and if someone thinks responding to Josey is stupid and a waste of time, they should not read his posts.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
So,
moderators should, for all intents and purposes, ignore consistent requests from a majority of it’s posters regarding temporary actions?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
Is there really a "majority" of posters clamoring for this though?
There’s a few with loud voices, but I doubt the actual majority of LSB actually cares as much as you do.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
I disagree.
There are quite a few people who avoid morning threads entirely because of him. I think if you were to take a survey in, say, a GDT or post-GDTor some such, it would be a majority.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
I don't doubt that the majority of LSBers would vote to ban Josey if you polled the blog on it.
But I doubt the majority really truly cares enough to actually launch and follow through on a serious campaign to get the mods to make it happen.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
True,
but I wouldn’t be doing it if I felt that it was just FP and myself who felt this way.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
I'd give him temp bans too.
But he’s not the only one. When people get too worked up they need a timeout.
But that’s not how this place is run and (from some combination of my new-ness, age and personality) it doesn’t really get under my skin.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
I don't see what a temp ban is even going to accomplish in this situation, because once his ban is over the problem is just going to begin anew
Because people won’t be able to resist telling Josey how great it was while he was gone, which will lead to Josey playing an innocent martyr act, which in turn will enrage people all over again.
Neither party is ever going to be able to resist trying to antagonize the other.
This temp ban idea is total crap.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
It was great last Summer
When he wasn’t around for a few weeks.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
And that neither solved, nor changed anything once he returned.
If he’s gonna be banned, it’s gonna have to be a permanent, Rangers100-type ban.
None of this half assed “all we want is a temporary ban” BS to make your case sound more reasonable.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
I think it would cause him to
think twice before purposefully trying to stir things up.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
Temp ban would be for trolling.
Telling Josey how great it was he was gone is trolling.
It’s like a shock collar. Repeat until desired behavior is achieved.
It’s a lot of work and probably not worth it… because the overall benefit wouldn’t be terribly material.
Traffic wouldn’t increase, and people would still bitch.
Possibly you might get more people posting who are intimidated by the angry dome… but then it wouldn’t be the angry dome.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
I don't mean Josey
I mean people who are intimidated by the shouting that generally occurs.
And I don’t know who… they don’t post because they are intimidated. ;) May be none… but that’s the biggest detriment to a lightly modded environment… the Wild West isn’t for everyone.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Are people really intimidated
on the Internet? It’s not like they’re required to show up at the tailgate, and face off.
Que sera, sera.
Absolutely
Obviously not everyone, but it happens.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Lisa W stays out of the morning threads because of Josey
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
John Leftwich does as well
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
So does
Brandon Worley.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
Rentz does too
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Loblaw as well
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
PhilKid
relies on your flag system. That should count, I think.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
If I see a post that has like 800+ comments...
I usually stay away from it at first because I assume it’s been trolled into the ground. But curiosity inevitably gets the best of me and I end up checking it out.
The majority of the time I was right about the comment count being inflated by trolling and stupid pissing matches.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
That would work if Josey where your average troll, but he's not.
His MO isn’t to directly or openly incite shit, it’s to take positions on hotbutton topics that he knows people won’t like and stick to them while his reputation and the people who are frustrated with him attack him.
That’s not something he’s going to change, and it’s not something you can force him to change, either. The only solution is to remove him from the equation entirely.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
I haven't gotten to that point.
But I’ve only been here five weeks. You could be right. I’d still start with temp bans on people. And at the point I got tired of that would be perm bans.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
That's the thing, is Josey's been around doing this for upwards of two full years now.
Probably closer to three.
And he’s not going anywhere.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Personally
I’d just as soon them ban the 5 folks who respond to Josey the most, because most of them bring absolutely zero to this blog. Most of them are fairly mindless parrots.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
by DJCahill on Feb 23, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Gee thanks.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
You're the new me.
Or, at least you’re in the same club as me now.
The overposters club.
Congrats.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
This is the worst thing anyone has ever said to me.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Definitely.
That didn’t make me feel like a terrible human being.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
It's okay.
Embrace it.
If you don’t, people will be beating you over the head with your post count for years.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
The post count is nothing.
It’s the comparison to you that just fucked up my worldview.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Well, if it makes you feel better I only meant you're me in the generation of meaningless posts and somehow finding ways to be involved in everything around here sense.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
I don't know.
Sometimes I feel like reading Josey, and I’ll read it. Sometimes I don’t, and I don’t.
I ignore all the basketball and chili talk, too.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
The only problem is
the noise (basketball, chili, Josey, and the Josey Fanboys who can’t help but respond to him) is getting to be way more than the signal (Rangers baseball).
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
I'm new here.
And I’m already annoyed as hell by JW and the shit he starts. Perhaps a week off would cool down everyone and put an end to subthreads such as this. It would at least be a temporary fix to test if it actually makes a difference.
What's that mean?
Yep your right
There does not seem to be a majority and the Josey whiners have become far more of a bother than Josey.
He's not going to do what you want him to do. You're wasting your breath.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
If he's breathing on his keyboard.
He’s doing it wrong. ;)
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
We get back to the slippery slope then.
If “a majority” (and in this case it’s a very vocal minority) agitate for me to ban you, should I do that?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Temporarily?
Perhaps, so.
I’m not saying it’s the rule of the mob or that a temporary majority should be all that is required. I am saying that moderators should ideally listen to their members if there is a groundswell of support for something. It doesn’t mean they have to adopt their proposal wholeheartedly or that they couldn’t adopt it as they see fit, but to consistently and nonchalantly shoot them down seems like a poor approach as well.
Again, we’re not asking you to permanently ban him.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
Who's "we?"
“Again, we’re not asking you to permanently ban him.”
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
FP and myself, in this thread.
Would you really like for me to make a petition?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
It would just further cement my position.
I think you should just ignore him.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
So, no?
As the answer to the original question?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Sometimes
I wish they’d post a list of the five or ten biggest responders, and ban them at the same time they ban Josey. It would be glorious.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
I guarantee you one is bigsteve.
Is he contributing to the problem that you are so upset about? If not, then banning him would do nothing positive for you.
I think the responders
are as big a problem as Josey himself.
To answer your question, It would bother me zero to have a week of blog without bigsteve.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
I'd rather see temp
bans. That’s just me.
If there are bans though, whether temp or perm, I think its only fair that a bunch of heavy responders get hit at the same time as Josey.
Seems only fair.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Screw fair
To paraphrase Bill Cosby, I’m not interested in justice, I’m interested in peace and quiet.
And my general rule for banning is, Is your posting behavior making this place a shitty place? Then take a break.
Of if it’s illegal, obviously.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
The people
who respond to him also make this a shitty place.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
x
Since GoET has temporarily banned people for less than what others do on a daily basis, I wonder what that dude is thinking. I’m not sure he is thinking, but as long as temp bans are fair, I obviously support them for whomever. Not just that one moron.
You and I
Do not disagree on this point.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Fuck you too
I respond to Josey to talk baseball. I rarely engage in the shit you throw at him.
Me and Josey have had our share of arguments but they are generally all about baseball. If you don’t like a baseball discussion on a baseball blog then get the fuck out
I didn't say you talked the same shit to him as I do, you fucking moron.
That’s the point of my post – that you talk baseball but respond to him a shitload. Jesus you’re thick.
This whole argument about Josey is the people who respond to him with their taunts and insults
I guarantee you I am not one of the top 5 responders in that regard to him.
if you or Cahill want to ban Josey and the top 5 responders it needs to be the top 5 flaming responders (not gay not that theres anything wrong with that) not people who engage him in actual baseball discussion
I don't want to ban Josey.
I suggest you read what I write before you jump to conclusions mat all over the place.
I don't think you should ban him.
But over 60 people did vote to murder him. I wasn’t even one of them. That’s more than just GB and myself.
"I don't think you should ban him."
What do you want then?
I already told the community that I would reprimand him if he comes in and attacks anyone. Knowing that, I think we should try go on with our lives until that happens, don’t you think?
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2011 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
You have said that, yes.
You have yet to do that.
Look, for better or worse, you are different from Ben and AJM – you have actually taken action in the past….they have not. I just think your action has been inconsistent to date, is all, especially considering you have said you would take action.
Since I said anything...
Josey hasn’t attacked anyone. Unless you count the tamponia remark in today’s thread but this whole thread kind of turned into an airing of grievances thread.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
x
I did point out the tamponia comment somewhere in this mess, but I don’t think it’s that bad. It’s really the only one that I thought deserved your scrutiny.
I've banned people before.
I just don’t make a big public statement of it. Do you want a Circle of Shame every week, where we shame the wrongdoers?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Yes,
Please. And if we could post there and figuratively throw rocks and garbage at them, that would be great.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
I think a weekly circle of shame
could have legs.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
I'm down with that
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Irrelevant
Most of the people that hate Josey do so because he has gone off on some wildly inappropriate personal attacks. Now he gets it in response, and it’s our faults. THAT is what’s stupid – blaming others for Josey.
Considering
you know what Josey is going to respond (or should) before you even finish typing your response to him, anyone who can’t figure it out is usually such a worthless shit for brains that banning them just lowers the overall volume of shitty posters.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Well when he talks about my mom sucking some random dude's cock...
…..I don’t enjoy it very much. I’m going to respond, and unless management wants to lift a single sorry finger, you are going to deal with it. Sorry.
Have fun with that mental image later when you get a few drinks in you.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
The thing that would bug me with a
few drinks in me is if my mom went dentures in, or dentures out.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Site traffic dropping to less than 75% of what it is now
with the belief that lack of moderation is the reason.
And I don’t mean that for the money… but the point of any site is to get traffic.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
No, that's the problem.
I understand trying not to bring biases into it, but it’s also a completely absurd idea to think that we’re supposed to view each post from him in total isolation. In addition to being impossible, it’s not a good idea. People who spend enough time here develop an ‘online personality’, one with their own ideas, opinions, and styles of posting. This is a good thing. Otherwise we should just all be posting under anonymous.
Furthermore, I see absolutely no reason to make a special exception for Josey posts just so that I can view his little jabs as anything other than they really are. You’re not asking for an unbiased approach at this point, you’re asking us all to ignore the reality of the situation.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think what Josey posted was trollish
I think it would have made for interesting baseball discussion but instead it turned into poop-flinging between Josey and yourself and FP and others.
I'm not responding to Josey, dumbass.
I’m not even talking to him. He’s tried to engage me several times.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
There is no rational reason to NOT view Josey's posts under the "color of Josey," as it were.
If it seems trollish, coming from him, it’s trolling.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
I agree a lot of people are like that, it's maddening.
I used to get the same abuse.
But in Josey’s case it often isn’t comparable, and he is actually trolling.
Nice!
chicken fried rice here.
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 23, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
baked potato with 2 tbsp of salsa, 1/2 cup of chicken and a Green Giant Cauliflower and cheese "Just for One" on top...
it’s pretty good and like 300 calories
but it’s still a diet..and diets suck
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Is it like Curves?
I work out at Curves.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
No, it's a full workout that will kick your ass into shape.
They have one on Shady Oaks.
http://www.crossfitntx.com/CrossFit_NTX/Home.html
Do it, and you can eat normal.
Que sera, sera.
all the more reason
he can dress like a nancy boy and still get all the chicks he wants.
A much shorter sig.
I need to start one up
True story, that pudge be comin’ back up in me.
(Previous sentence not Ivan Rodriguez slashfic).
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Sadly I may have needed that clarification
Ivan Rodriguez was my first thought when I read that line
Yeah, caught tht just before I would have hit post
Damn you Emma Span.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
I may have a baked potato and a rotiserrie chicken...
tonight.
I just had a plain tuna sandwich. Yum.
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 23, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
make the fried rice with the rotis chicken.
But add the baked potato. heh
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 23, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
I was really hoping the guy driving the cart wasn't Nolan Ryan
Before I read the caption I was scared that’s who it was. Looks like an even more let go Nolan. And with a sinister look on his face like he’s gonna spin out and throw Young 15 feet through the air into the side of a lawn equipment shed.
And then shout, “Now THAT is range!”
Yeah, well at least I'm housebroken.
Good grief this thread is a beating.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
its not even just josey anymore,
its the constant bitching about him too. getting real old.
Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard fillings. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 23, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Then Josey needs to leave
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Only if all the people who bitch about him leave too.
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 23, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Josey is the cancer in the community
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
So are the people who whine and bitch about him.
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 23, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
And so are the people
who whine about the people who whine about Josey…
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
It's everywhere!
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
And so are the people
who whine about the people who whine about the people who whine about Josey…
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 23, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
I'm almost envious of JW's skills here
This is one of the greatest shitstorms I’ve born witness to
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Feb 23, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
meh
I’ve seen far worse.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
its simple.. dont respond
but we know that wont happen…..
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 23, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
The really good ones get deleted.
It’s a shame. Just search for “fucking idiot” or something like that in the search bar and you should come across some good stuff if you look hard enough.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Yeah, this is nothing.
Well, maybe not nothing, but so far as shitstorms go, this is an F1 at best.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Like I said, gonna need links
I’ve been around /b/ when people there cared enough for an actual mobilization and this is stlil pretty damn elite
>mfw
We had a more intense blowout than this just last week
Don’t feel like going and finding the thread though.
This one might have that one topped for length, though.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
That's what I was going for. I remember laughing hard at the constant Flagged thing last week
But this tornado is pushing its 300th mile
>mfw
He's an F5
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Saturday was pretty epic.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
The MY speaks thread?
I missed 99% of Saturday’s activities.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
That'd be it.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
I saw that one get posted in between baseball games and had a bad feeling.
Went back after the storm had settled, dang.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Having just waded through all of the above...
That was pretty light for the way it was being talked up in other threads. I’ve seen it far worse on here.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
What a fucking time this thread was...
I don’t know what is worse, the trolling and baiting, the bitching or nobody willing to do shit about any of it…
I wonder if Parks website is going to have forum…
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Unless it was a veiled threat for people to shape up or your shipping out
In that case, it will surely earn respect.
Have you seen the King of Kong?
I know our love for the game started with SNES.. but that movie was pretty cool.
I was about to be 2
I didn’t get an NES till a couple years later. I’m not sure I had DK then though.. I don’t recall it at least. I remember playing it all the time on SNES and continued on with N64 even though they weren’t as good.
I even bought the spin-offs like Diddy Kong Racing and such..heh.
It's all good. It's just a community finishing rehab before relapsing into actual games.
Unlike many on here, I absolutely can’t wait for GDT’s. Those are my favorite thing about this site.
without GDT's as an outlet this site has major social issues
even with the shortest off season in the clubs history LSB couldn’t keep it from becoming a total cluster fuck…
Absolutely amazes me how screwed up this place gets without games
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Do you think we should stop trying?
I understand it makes for crappy threads and I don’t plan to continue it forever. It just feels like things might be reaching some sort of tipping point.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
And it's important to remember this all started because
I proposed a Hunter, Harrison, Borbon for Rasmus trade …because I thought that might be enough on our side to get it done…and when somebody said it was a “shitty trade” because we weren’t giving enough I countered with something to the effect that…
“We could be in trouble if that’s not enough because these are players that we’re very dependent on for us to be successful this year.”
That paraphrased statement was Mrs.O’Leary’s cow kicking over the kerosene lamp that started this morning’s Great Fire.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
This didn't start because of the proposal.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Nope....
it started because the same 4 or 5 people every fucking day can’t keep from responding to him!!
The same fucking idiotic people……. every fucking day!!
- LSB has ADD -
Yep
If they banned Josey, and the five biggest responders to him for a week, that would be a pretty good week in LSB land.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Right now
I’d take the 5 responders banned first.
They cause more shit than Josey.
Don't be shy name them
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Yes
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Perhaps.
You at least admit that it’s escalated, though?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
And maybe someone who's irritated enough...
will perfect the script.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I just simply can not believe
that your ideal answer to this problem is somebody coming up with a script, then hundreds of people having to enable it, just to avoid ONE person. The mind boggles…
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Probably because it wouldn't be 100s, maybe a dozen.
It’s pretty obvious a lot of people enjoy it, despite what they say, otherwise they’d shut up.
Que sera, sera.
by scoop16 on Feb 23, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Pretty much.
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 23, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree.
Perhaps 200 is a bit high, but I think the number that already use it is in the double digits. If you include the people who don’t come to threads with Josey in them…it doesn’t seem like an unreasonable estimate to me.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
x
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/5/3/863636/ignore-script
That might be the old version though. I’m not sure.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Who was it?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Well
I don’t know whether I should say. I assume Adam did this person a favor by doing it so don’t know if there is some anonymity he wants to protect
Yeah, I figured out who another one of old scrubbed accounts was, and Adam said he'd rather not have me drop the name.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Speaking of holy shits in that thread, though
I am neither a new guy nor am I trying to make a name.
The name was made long ago.
That’s how you get a movie made about you that just about everybody gets and that’s also how you have other posters in here openly wondering what I’m thinking about on an issue when I’m not even in the room.
That is a presence that 99.5% of the posters in here do not have.
I think I’m kindly directing Josey to this the next time he says he doesn’t revel in his persona.
There’s this little nugget too:
the easiest way to get me to say nice things about the Rangers and JD is for the team to win more games than they’re losing.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Didn't I say nice things about the job
JD did in 2010?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Brilliant.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
yep
Josey baiting and shit-flinging is this community’s “Jersey Shore.”
People say they hate it, but they can’t resist being sucked in
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but that was a silly little poll.
Do you think they’d all bother w/ a script? I bet at least 75% of the killers engage JW in conversation.
Que sera, sera.
last pool on the topic had over 200 votes that
either requested Admin to ban or people to use the troll script
that in itself should tell you a lot.
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
You should move to Opera or FF if you can.
It’s really even easier to use the trollscript in Opera because the browser itself will run the script for you, you don’t need to go installing greasemonkey or anything.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Two problems:
I don’t have admin access on this computer to install anything, and none ofyour post makes one ounce of sense to me.
That sucks.
To try and clarify what I’m talking about: to use the trollscript in firefox, you have to install an addon called greasemonkey to FF and then put the trollscript into greasemonkey.
All you have to do with Opera on the other hand is create a folder on your computer, put the trollscript (and any other userscripts you want Opera to run) go into the browser’s options and tell it to run the scripts from that folder.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
It's kinda like when a woman whines about how she wants to meet a nice guy who has his shit together...
Yet she always ends up with the douchebag that treats her like shit and doesn’t even have a checking account. Secretly, she loves it.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Out of curiousity... if the troll script worked well and didn't interfere with Z button usage
Would you use it so you didn’t have to worry about it?
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
That's what I was thinking.
ab’s gets it going… but the bugs on Z key made it a deal breaker.
If fixed, I would turn it on again. I don’t mind missing conversations subthreads started by trolls… I spend too much time here anyway.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Probably.
I would feel like I had given up, but that’s likely as not going to happen anyways.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
You're just now noticing this has major social issues?
lol
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 23, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
site*
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 23, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Richard Price...
looks like he has some evil intentions in his eyes while driving MY around in that picture.
I wonder if JD told him to drive him somehwere.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
It was a beating from the beginning.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
It started out bad when SBN went down.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
What's amazing is
LSB can get this many comments during the day when we all should be working.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
What is work?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Exactly
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Maybe that's the real reason american business outsources everything
People in other countries can’t spend all day on the damn internet.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
So are you anti-America now?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I know it was
It was sarcasm on my part.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Yeah.
It’s not.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Yeah,
it’s because it’s cheaper to pay them to spend all day on the internet than it is to pay us to spend all day talking on the internet.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
CurryCricketBall
We’re Here, We’re Angrier, and We Smell of Curry.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
Is this OT? Should I just post in the OT thread?
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Probably should post it there, too,
just to be safe.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
I will see your DD and raise you EE
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
A stripper I talked to...
a few weeks back described those types of boobs by saying “Tittyfucking her would be like putting it in between two styrofoam cups.”
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
What a terrible metaphor.
I don’t deny the stripper’s enthusiasm though. She was clearly trying to get you more fired up about her small, real boobs.
I would love for her to give them to me.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
You could use some baseball.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
x
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
by boomer1 on Feb 23, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I have no clue
I googled “texas rangers boobs” and she popped up.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Brings a tear to my eye, really.
It’s beautiful for so many reasons.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
We have agreeance.
When all else fails, show a nice set of fun bags.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2011 2:50 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
alls fun...
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Rec'd
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Opening Day ticket lottery sent out.
Didn’t get a code.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Me either.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Me neither
I just got back from the store where I saw this dude wearing a newly minted Rangers World Series cap. I have mixed emotions about this.
On one hand, this new influx in fans is great for the franchise. On the other, these new bandwagon douches are taking up all the Opening Day tickets.
I haven’t missed an Opening Day in over a decade and I don’t plan on starting now. I’m just gonna have to bite the bullet and overpay. Oh well! Just another in a long line of struggles as a life-long, die-hard Ranger fan.
do you like bread sticks?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I feel like we may have had this discussion before.
Yeah, I like breadsticks.
I prefer cheesy bread, though.
But does the pizza get jealous?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I'm a large guy.
There’s enough of me to go around.
If the pizza gets feisty, I just slap it around a little.
Part of me wonders if it was due to bandwagoners or not
I wonder how many were ticket scalpers and the like.
Um.....how many old World Series hats can a Rangers fan have??
Duh…….they’re all new.
- LSB has ADD -
It still had the tag on it.
Maybe he’s just a douche. Regardless, it just got me to thinking…
“I wonder how many other Ranger hats he’s owned.”
I have a WS hat that I put up and left the tags on it.
I have one that I wear and I took the tags off that one.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Apparently it's some kind of a fashion statement
The guy at Minor Leagues, Major Dreams mentioned that when I bought my red alternate cap recently.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
The wanna be thugs leave the tags on there.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
don't id yourself bc I'll shoot you in the face.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Yeah
Only real fans have those old Rangers World Series caps, right?
"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ
by Dirk Diggler on Feb 23, 2011 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
That guy got 8 OD Tix
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Me either
The Ballpark would require 484,440 seats for your dumbass to get a ticket.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Woah
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Round 14 of the CPR is up and ready for voting
http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/2/23/2010863/2011-lsb-community-prospect-project-pre-season-14
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Yo GoET
You gonna do an afternoon thread?
My morning OT thread’s kind of at capacity, and I’m not sure whether I need to make an evening one…
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Yeah...
I’ll do an evening thread.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
Irish beat us both to the punch, actually
If you’ve got better stuff to do.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Cool...
I don’t but I didn’t want to go looking for Rangers news right now especially after reading this thread.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2011 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not making any grandiose announcements or anything,
but I think I’m done arguing it. You know how we feel. We know how you feel. People are tired of us hashing it out in public and I feel bad that they have to deal with it. Many of us think that your take on the matter is…let’s say unsatisfactory…but you know that as well.
I can’t believe it’s come to this, but it looks like the only solution is for the many people who are annoyed by it to either completely ignore morning threads or to install a program just to block one person. I’m going to offer to pay for a version that lets us ‘z’.
I’m so disappointed.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
I think this subthread...
http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/2/23/2009990/wednesday-morning-rangers-things#59841831
Is how I feel about things after reading this whole thread.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
Here's the problem...
I wouldn’t mind seeing Josey banned either, but I don’t care enough about it to spend an entire day posting about it in one thread. You guys on both sides of the argument have to realize that you’re just inflating his narcissistic ego all the more with everyone of these fucking 1000 post threads all about him.
Just ignore Ass Antlers and move on. Nothing’s going to change.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I thought change was possible.
I am sorry for all of the annoying posts that overtook this thread today; I know that it’s not what most people wanted to read. I really did feel like if there was overwhelming support from the LSB community and enough of a push from a few of the more high-volume posters, that something would happen. Again, not permanent, but something from the moderators that would result in actual change in behavior.
I know others don’t feel this way, but I felt that it was worth a week’s worth of intense arguing in the offseason to see if something couldn’t be worked out.
Obviously, it can’t. I’m very disappointed and will adjust appropriately.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
IT's ridiculous to suggest that "everyone [sic] of these 1000 post threads [is] all about him."
There has been much discussion for the past few days because everyone is more sick of it all than usual. 1000 post threads have been going on for awhile though.
You should be disappointed.
Because it’s fucking retarded. GoET promised to act last Saturday and has done nothing. Everyone is pissed. Everyone is irritated. Management refuses to do anything at all – one either side of anything – and as a result, every single person is irritated. Whatever side you come down on on any of these conversations today, one thing is clear: we are all annoyed with something.
So as a result, a large number of people are asked to suck it up for the benefit of one freaking user. Goes back to the disappointing comments that Josey is our fault.
"Because it’s fucking retarded. GoET promised to act last Saturday and has done nothing."
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2011 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
If you ever do ban Josey
please ban 5-10 of the biggest responders to Josey also. Seems only fair, and most of them won’t be missed.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Just curious, who are you referring to in particular?
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
I have no idea
since I usually skip most Josey threads, but it takes 2 to tango, and the responders are every bit as bad as josey.
Honestly, the blog could use less 1K threads with little to no decent Ranger content.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Sounds like
acceptable losses to me, if folks learn something from it.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
I don't really get the lesson you are trying to impart
People shouldn’t respond to Josey? If moderators cared that much about people responding to Josey, then they should just ban Josey.
Yes, you did.
And no, you haven’t done shit. Sorry. Again, I don’t suggest you ban him or anyone. At most, I have suggested temporary, 1-day bans. At least, I suggested you follow up with your promise that if he gets out of line that you say something.
You have done none of this at any time.
Uh...
“Since I said anything…
Josey hasn’t attacked anyone. Unless you count the tamponia remark in today’s thread but this whole thread kind of turned into an airing of grievances thread.”
And you agreed with that. What shit am I to have done then, sir?
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2011 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
That's today's thread only, dude.
You said you’d do that stuff last Thursday night, IIRC. Maybe Josey’s been on better behavior for the last week; I don’t know.
.....and I don't think you should have banned him for any amount of time for the tamponia comment.
I do think you should have said something.
I know you can issue a warning so that it pops up the next time he comes to the blog, and I know you can make the warning say whatever you want.
"Maybe Josey’s been on better behavior for the last week; I don’t know."
I’m specifically telling you that I haven’t seen Josey attack anyone but if he did, I would ask that he not do that. And yet, you continue to say that I haven’t acted on something only to say that you don’t know that he has attacked anyone yourself? What the heck?
Should I reprimand you as well for calling Bigsteve a “dumbass” in this thread regardless of if you feel it was warranted or not?
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2011 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
So you are going to reprimand all bad language now?
Um, good luck.
If you haven’t seen anything from Josey that warranted talking to, then fair enough. I have, and have stated as much. The “dumbass” comment to bigsteve was after he accused me of something I didn’t do, so if you have a problem with that kind of reaction, then fine. ban me for a day, along with 90% of this board.
Using language
And saying something derisive about someone are two different things.
Not taking a side… I’d probably be in favor of more moderation.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
That's it.
You and me, matchst1ck, in a GED-holders’ Battle to the Death.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I'm a really good shot with a handgun.
Target shooting is one of my favorite hobbies. So I’ll go with that.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
By the way...
What’s your profession Ben? I’m just curious since we have somewhat similar backgrounds.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
I'm licensed as a registered rep.
Stockbroker, basically, though I lost my job a few months ago and am undergoing a super-enjoyable swim through the interview process.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Interesting.
I worked on a quant analysis system as a programmer for a couple of years.
Really honed my cryptographic development skills…. but after reviewing enough quant models, I decided that trying to do anything other than arbitrage for equities was a waste of time.
Such a crazy industry. Especially with the declining commissions from all the internet trading.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Yeah, the purely transactional model...
is going the way of the dodo. As discount brokers keep stepping up programs for 0 commission trading on ETF’s, a lot of daytraders will just focus their energy there. That’s why you see TD Ameritrade and ETrade and Schwab focusing so much energy on moving self-directed accounts into higher margin products (guided wrap accounts, RIA’s, etc.)
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I won't last a week
if saying something derisive about someone is bannable. There are just too many damn silly statements made on this blog that provoke WTF statements.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
It's one thing to just be derisive, thats part of the Angrydome schtick
But JW has a way of lashing out with a personal attack every time someone disagrees with him.
Boomer gets it for being an Okie, me for being an Aggie, FP for working out, Aquaman for being from Mineral Wells even though hes not from Mineral Wells.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
There's still a difference
Between jocular humor and ribbing and intentionally derisive. It’s usually easy to tell as well.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Agreed
I can call FP a hipster doofus and Aquaman a Baylor moron and its cool.
JW is most assuredly not doing it to be jocular.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Yes...
and people will be getting a warning for doing it. But I don’t get FuturePant’s insistence that I haven’t “done shit” when frankly since I even addressed the community, Josey hasn’t attacked anyone and in the very thread FP claimed that I haven’t acted, he derisively attacked someone for misconstruing his actions.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2011 6:45 PM CST up reply actions
There is a big difference between me saying bigsteve was acting like a dumbass...
….and Josey’s comment and you know it.
You have been ultra sensitive about me since I called you out last week. Someone disagreeing with the comments you are making is not that big of a deal. Get past it.
You didn't say bigsteve was acting like a dumbass...
you called him a dumbass. Surely you see the difference.
And the only reason I keep responding to you directly the way I have is because you are the only person who keeps misrepresenting me and my intentions and I’m not going to let that slide.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2011 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
In all seriousness
why does getting picked on for being an okie, an aggie, a guy who works out and an esquire from MW bother you guys so much?
Josey has some lame thoughts, but his “attacks” are really pretty juvenile. I’ve seen FP and ab03 go at each other pretty good in one of their spats, but they don’t clamor for the other to be banned.
I just don’t get it. If you (and not you directly westtxag06) think Josey is being a bating troll then don’t respond. If his thoughts are stupid and you know how pointless it is to change his mind, then don’t engage him.
There’s crossing some line for sure, but I can’t recall Josey doing that. At least he hasn’t dropped the c-bomb on a 15 yr old girl (assuming Marisa really is a 15 yr old girl, which I have my doubts).
Josey is easy to z through when people don’t respond to him.
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
confirmation
just makes what red did even worse.
by elvis1isking on Feb 23, 2011 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
It's not the language, FP...
It’s the attack. You know that.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2011 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
x
Dude. The fuck.
Calling someone a dumbass because they are accusing you of doing something you flat out did not do is not an attack. It’s a fucking response. Jesus fucking goddamn fucking christ.
So...
now, we’re supposed to reprimand based on derisive personal attacks, but we shouldn’t before we first judge whether or not those attacks were merited or not before taking action? This reads to me as “I might have attacked someone by calling them a name but I had a good reason!!”
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2011 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
It appeared to me that you agreed with Cahill that if we ban Josey we should ban his top responders as well
And you brought me up as a specific example.
I don’t engage Josey in the insulting attacking the way some do. My interactions with Josey are generally baseball related so just because I respond to the guy shouldn’t mean I get banned also.
If yopu don’t like people discussing baseball on a baseball blog regardless of how much you agree or disagree with their opinions or ideas then you should probably find another place to visit
I was making a point to Cahill:
simply banning the “top 5 responders” is not what Cahill really wants. Certainly you are a top 5 responder to Josey, but you are not who Cahill (presumably) has a problem with.
Actually
the top 5 responders is actually exactly what Cahill wants you stupid fuck. Don’t try to think or interpret, you really aren’t good at it, and logic doesn’t appear to be one of your strong suits.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
I think everyone just needs to let it go at this point please.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
The temporary ban idea is crap.
Especially 1-day pittances. Seriously, what is a one-day ban gonna accomplish? Josey isn’t going to magically stop being Josey because you ban him for a day, or even a week or a month.
And that’s really the crux of this issue is Josey being Josey, because he’s really not currently out shaking the trees and trolling people. He doesn’t have to, not right now.
The only way you’re gonna stop Josey from doing Joseyings is to remove him from the picture alltogether. Literally ban him for being an irritating butthole. And to do that would kinda be a big leap for Adam, GoET and Ben to take, because half this site are irritating buttholes at some time or another.
However, trying to soften that blow by asking for the mods to do temporary bannings on him, a concept that is quite clearly and obviously worthless, and getting upset when they won’t cave to a silly demand is just dumb. Either man up and call for the big perma-ban (something I might be convinced to support), or go home IMO.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Um, banning someone for a month?
You really think he’ll come back after a month? He doesn’t have better things to do?
And if he did, you don’t think he’d be scared of getting banned again for a month?
He's been on this site day in and day out going on 3 years now.
And apparently did the same for years at the newberg forums before that. Fuck yes he’ll come right back if you ban him for a month. He’d be back the very morning his suspension was over.
And he’s not gonna ever stop being Josey, not permanently. And him doing bannable offenses isn’t really the problem, anyway – it’s the reaction people have started to take to anything and everything he says. And I don’t believe that would get any better if he was gone for a month either. In fact, it would probably get worse because people will start trying to bait him into trouble to get him banned again.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
No way
no offense, but this is because you don’t understand people.
2 consecutive 1 month bans in quick succession would end it for good (either the behavior or his presence).
He was banned for an offseason at NMLR
came back just the same as always.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
It was for at least a couple of months though
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Yeah I get that
and people are generally willing to play the game once – wait it out, go back to it, see how far they can get away with.
fewer people would go back after a second banning, etc. I think you’d get positive responses after each banning as long as it was sufficient. I agree that 1 day isn’t anything since most people don’t really spend a full day posting anyway
TexasDawg/Rangers100 kept trying to come back upwards of 8 times, according to Ben
A guy like Josey who is obsessed with his reputation and “influence” at a particular site is going to keep coming back unless you perma-ban him.
And if you’re planning on having to ban Josey twice, what’s the point in not just perma-banning him once and ending it all?
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
I don't believe him changing is even the issue.
The issue is how people react to his very presence, and like I said, if you ban him once and let him come back, people are just gonna start trying to get him into trouble to get him banned again.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
If you were going to ban Josey
You’d need to give a clear message that Josey-baiting would be bannable as well.
Ban everybody… that’s my motto. ;)
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Even if you did that, you're opening up another can of worms over what would constitute Joseybaiting
Because literally all people do is argue with him.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Eventually the site will be nothing but
Adam, goET, ben and Lisa. Because Lisa doesn’t really argue… and can’t we all agree, it’d be a better site then?
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Adam deletes my comments all the time.
He’d probably ban me if he could find the ban button.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Feb 23, 2011 6:44 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I see you've cleverly hidden it
amongst the gifs of attractive women. Well played.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2011 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
I'd hide the ban button...
on the tip of a penis GIF
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Not to mention how the policy of trying to force people to play nice with Josey would impact the rest of the blog
And our relationships/arguments with other members.
If you do that with one guy, even if it’s Josey, you’re eventually going to have to lay down some rules and start modding this place in a fashion similar to LL, and the community would shit themselves if that happened.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
You're overthinking it
Just permaban JW for sucking the life out of the board and ruining threads and move on about your business.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
This is exactly what I'm saying.
That’s your only option if you really want him gone, is one clean, off-with-the-head chop.
This temporary ban shit however, opens a pandora’s box that I can really see why Adam, GoET and Ben wanna keep safely locked away.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
I like
1 day and 1 week timeouts, personally. They are usually cheered when they are handed out.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
The Warden thought that, too.
And all Andy did in return was bring that whole fucking place down.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
well if anything that proves the point. 1 month bans hurt
It would be interesting to see an atomic response from Josey. Really, nobody has it in them.
1 month wouldn't do it for me.
But another month might.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I'd enjoy the board less without Joe Blanton.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
Aqua is one of the primary conversationalists around here these days.
LSB would definitely feel it if he went on the DL.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
You're just trying to make me feel better about earlier.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
DAMN RIGHT YOU WOULD.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
1 month would probably do it for me
2 months would be a kill shot. If in 2 months I could get along with not posting, I’d have sufficiently altered my routine so that I didn’t need to anymore
Josey wouldn't actually stop posting though.
He’d just move his show to BBTiA like Rangers100 did, or back to Newberg’s boards, if he’s still allowed there.
I really don’t think Josey is like most of us, especially if he listens to sports talk radio half as much as he apparently does.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
He's still on NMLR
He doesn’t post, but I’ve seen him online.
"Yorvit, Webb, Napoli and Rhodes are going to cost $ 16 million this year and aren’t likely to combine for a 5.0 WAR this year." | Josey Wales, 2/11/2011
"I'll bet you an Internet he puts up a higher OPS than Beltre." | Scoop16 on Micheal Young, 2/17/2011
But if he's still out there posting elsewhere, chances are he's going to come right back to the place where he has the biggest audience when his ban is over, though.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
They banned him at NMLR,
and since his fanclub couldn’t get enough of him at NMLR, they all followed him to LSB.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Why would you think he has something better to do?
His existence is a sad wreckage. He TROLLS a message board populated by fans of a team he allegedly SUPPORTS. Daily, and for extended periods of time.
Can anyone even conceive of what your life would have to be like to do that?
by jay_84 on Feb 23, 2011 10:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I know right?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.-Closure GT on 12/14/2010 9:48 AM
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Fuck Ed Coffin.
There.
I finally said it.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
by LSJ on Feb 24, 2011 6:42 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
For what reason
would anyone mention that overly-verbose writer, who may have been the single worst moderator I’ve ever seen?
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
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