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The irresponsibility of Blogger Chass

Blogger Murray Chass has a story up today on his blog in which he makes an accusation that Stan Musial was (and, for all I know, still is) a racist.

Chass says point-blank:

It turns out that the 90-year-old Musial is not the Saint Stan he is considered in St. Louis. For sure, Musial remains the great player he was in his Hall of Fame career and deserves all of the accolades he has received for his achievements in that career.

As a person, however, he left much to be desired. Marvin Miller raised the issue in a recent conversation and provided the evidence to make his case. It is a convincing one.

* * *

The word ironic is overused, but it would seem to me we could consider it ironic that the nation’s first black president awards the nation’s highest civilian honor to someone who discriminated against blacks.

An extraordinary charge.  And is the "convincing" case that Chass has?

An anecdote from the 93 year old Marvin Miller, who is repeating something he allegedly was told 41 years earlier:

Musial, with a partner, had a restaurant (a "posh restaurant," Miller said) in St. Louis called Stan Musial & Biggie’s. Flood and some of his teammates, also African-American and all former teammates of Musial, Miller said, made plans to attend a celebration at the restaurant. This was some time after Musial retired following the 1963 season.

"Flood organized this group of African-American players," Miller related, "He got together a group that had known Musial as a teammate and they thought it was appropriate that they should go. As he said to me, ‘We didn’t always dress up but that night we did. We wore freshly pressed pants, shirts, ties, jackets and off we went to help celebrate with our former teammate.

"When we got to the restaurant, the maitre d’ refused to seat us," Flood told Miller.

"He said they wanted to know why that was," Miller continued, "and the maître d’ finally pointed around the restaurant and said, ‘Do you see any black faces here?’ Flood said he asked ‘Is this your idea?’ No, he said. The owner had given him instructions. They left."

There you go.  Chass says that Miller says that 41 years ago, Flood told him that, several years before that, the maitre d' at a restaurant co-owned by Musial refused to seat a group of black players.

If that happened, that was reprehensible.

But offering up an uncorroborated story, that is almost half a century old, from someone in his 90s who is repeating what he was told...

That's the "convincing case" that Musial was a racist?

That said, Blogger Chass has more:

Some people believe that even earlier, in 1947, Musial displayed that view, opposing Jackie Robinson’s entry into the major leagues.

"When it became known that the Dodgers were going to bring up Robinson," said a lawyer with no first-hand knowledge of the incident, "Musial tried to organize a boycott against playing them if he was on the team. Musial was outraged."

This, despite the fact that multiple reports indicate that Musial had nothing to do with any proposed boycott.  It sounds like the "lawyer with no first-hand knowledge of the incident" was confusing Musial with his teammate, Enos Slaughter, who did try to organize a boycott, and was threatened with suspension.

Even Chass's other sources in the story seem dismissive of the claim:

Anderman also noted that Willie Mays said that when he first made the All-Star game Musial was the first white player to be friendly to him. Anderman also said that that Musial had good relations with Bill White and Bob Gibson, black Cardinals’ teammates, who did not return telephone calls seeking comment.

"It doesn’t seem like the strike would ever have been something he’d have been a part of," Anderman said.

Miller said he was not aware of any anti-Robinson feelings in Musial. "I know there were ardent racists on the Cardinals," he said, "but I never heard Musial’s name in that connection."

Over at Baseball Think Factory, where I first saw this Chass piece linked, another commenter pointed out this feature on Musial by Joe Posnanski, which also would seem to put to rest the allegations:

"Stan Musial," his teammate Bob Gibson says, "is the nicest man I ever met in baseball." Gibson smiles. "And, to be honest, I can't relate to that. I never knew that nice and baseball went together."

* * *

Another Brooklyn Dodgers pitcher, Joe Black, told me a story once. We were sitting next to each other on a plane when, without provocation, he simply started telling the story, one he has told many times. He was pitching against the St. Louis Cardinals—this was 1952, his rookie year, his best year. Black had come out of the Negro leagues, and he was young, and he pitched fearlessly. He thought this happened the first time he faced the Cardinals; Black pitched three scoreless innings that day. But he wasn't entirely sure that was the day. What he remembered clearly, though, was the voice booming from the Cardinals' dugout while he was pitching to Musial.

"Don't worry, Stan," that someone from the Cardinals dugout had yelled. "With that dark background on the mound, you shouldn't haven't any problem hitting the ball."

Musial did not show any reaction at all. He never did when he hit. He simply spat on the ground and got into his famous peekaboo batting stance—the one that Hall of Fame pitcher Ted Lyons said "looked like a small boy looking around a corner to see if the cops are coming"—and he flied out. It was after the game, when Black was in the clubhouse, that he looked up and saw Stan Musial.

"I'm sorry that happened," Black remembered Musial whispering. "But don't you worry about it. You're a great pitcher. You will win a lot of games."

Yes, Joe Black told the story often—and it's a good story. But what I remember about the way he told it on the plane that day was how proud Black was to be connected to Musial. This is the common theme when people tell their Musial stories. No one tries to make Musial larger than life—he was only as large as life. He didn't make a show. He didn't make speeches. He didn't try to change the world. He just believed that every man had the right to be treated with dignity.

 After levelling the bullspit racism charge, Chass then condemns Musial for not being more involved in the players' labor movement and his participation in a committee that disqualified players who jumped the majors to play in Mexico in the 40s from eligibility in the league's pension plan. 

This, it seems, is the crux of Chass's complaint, and I think he simply buried the lead.  Chass's particular hobby horse is Marvin Miller and the labor movement, and this issue has resulted in him embarrassing himself by reporting as facts things he was told by Miller that turned out not to be true.

As with the case where he ran with the claim that Tom Verducci voted against Miller for the Hall of Fame and ripped Verducci for not, in Chass's opinion, being a good writer anyway, it doesn't appear that Blogger Chass made any effort to contact the source of his vitriol and see if what he was saying was true. 

And you know, I probably wouldn't have even written about this, if earlier this week there hadn't been the poisonous column written by the sour T.J. Simers in which he opted to embarrass Marcus Thames for no apparent reason.  That column prompted public rebukes from former Thames teammates Morgan Ensberg and Curtis Granderson, and numerous responses from those journalists who had covered Thames, in which they attested to him being a stand up guy.

That column stuck in my craw, for much the same reason Chass's hatchet job on Musial does...both pieces are the work of old media types who have been virulently anti-blog and anti-blogger, who think that I sit in my mother's basement in my underwear and do nothing but detract from their work, and who claim that I have no accountability for what I say or write.

And yet, Simers can call Marcus Thames a "head case" and a "stiff" because, when the first thing he ever said to Thames was, "Are you that horrible on defense that teams don't think it's worth playing such a home run threat?", Thames walked away.

And that's okay. 

And Blogger Chass can call Musial a racist based on a 93 year old's recounting of a third-hand story he heard almost a half-century ago, in which Musial wasn't even a participant.

And that's okay.

Because, apparently, they are exemplary members of the "real media".  Apparently, they have accountability.

 

 

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Luckily, no one takes Chass seriously

the guy embarrasses himself more with every post. He’s Grandpa Simpson with a blog.

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by t ball on Mar 24, 2011 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Well done

And don’t worry – pretty sure we live in a world where you can’t get away with calling Stan the Man a racist.

by ab03 on Mar 24, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Silly Adam

No one takes us seriously because we didn’t go to journalism school or work in a real newsroom. Oh, wait. I did.

OK, they don’t take us seriously because we don’t have real jobs. Oh, wait. You do.

Live in basement? No
Live with parents? No
Not around players? No
Don’t understand baseball? No
Don’t have an editor checking our facts? Doesn’t seem to be hurting them

Not really sure why we’re considered second-class. Maybe more nonsense like this will change a lot of minds (doubtful).

"It's just nonsense math." -- Bill James re: BCS computer rankings

by Ted Price on Mar 24, 2011 1:20 PM CDT reply actions  

No

I really think this is different. He had been pushing the envelope little by little and boom – he calls a living legend a racist. I don’t think you can walk away from that unscathed.

by ab03 on Mar 24, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

He'll be crucified for it, and deservedly so.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Mar 24, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Blogger Murray Chass is one of the funniest meme’s out there.

by Heebs on Mar 24, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're sexy when you get angry.

Good job.

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by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 24, 2011 1:25 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Gay gor AJM

Baseball players routines: Spit, Chew, Curse, repeat.

by Gay For Feliz on Mar 24, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

for*

Baseball players routines: Spit, Chew, Curse, repeat.

by Gay For Feliz on Mar 24, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since I cannot think of anything to say to this amazing post

That was a great read.

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by Gdawg on Mar 24, 2011 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I hadn't read the Thames article.

Geez…what a piece of shit that writer is.

by Josh Lile on Mar 24, 2011 1:47 PM CDT reply actions  

That incident in the restaurant

Its not like the early 1960’s were a time when, in general, young african american men could simply walk into a fancy restaurant anyway. The fact that Musial was co-owner only means something if he was on the premesis and directing the matre’d.

Fast forward to now, and if the same thing happens, (which it wouldn’t but still), Flood gets on his cell to Musial, who immediately calls the matre’ d, and Flood and his party get the best seats in the house while the matre’ d looks for new work.

Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011

by iblum on Mar 24, 2011 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

The maitre d'

was Richie Ashburn in disguise.

by NinetyFeet on Mar 24, 2011 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Disgusting...

but a great writeup on your end.

I’m just disappointed that my dreams of you in the basement wearing only underwear are false.

by Jorbert Jorgenson on Mar 24, 2011 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Joined to rec this.

Well said.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 24, 2011 3:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Ditto.

Brilliant takedown.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
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by TBender on Mar 24, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damnit, I love it when you get up on your soap box.

You should do it more often.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Mar 24, 2011 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Whenever I bother to read Chass, this is what I see and hear in my head

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by WhipSmart on Mar 24, 2011 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

as it should

I am coming for you, Mark Lowe.
You’d better run, because there will be more with me.
I WILL DESTROY YOU MARK LOWE. ---LSJ 3/24

by shock00 on Mar 24, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will never stop laughing at that sketch...all of them in fact.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 24, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

well written AJM

it sickens me that this is written about Musial.

I am coming for you, Mark Lowe.
You’d better run, because there will be more with me.
I WILL DESTROY YOU MARK LOWE. ---LSJ 3/24

by shock00 on Mar 24, 2011 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

it would be sickening no matter who it was about

famous or not. You don’t slander someone’s name without more to go on than this.

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by t ball on Mar 25, 2011 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

"a lawyer with no first-hand knowledge of the incident"

There is so many things wrong with this I dont even know where to start

by BEW on Mar 24, 2011 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

I sent an email to Mr. Chass...

Congratulating him on his excellent blog.

by bhudson on Mar 24, 2011 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Half-way through this great take-down of Chass

I realized that the punchline was going to be that this is just a Marvin Miller hatchet job on Musial for not helping the baseball labor movement more

It is no wonder that Miller will never get HOF consideration with this sort of nonsense. I have no idea if Musial was a racist. But a pathetic anecdote about a restaurant experience (which very well could have been the guy in front’s own racism – I’m sure St Louis in the ’60s was a bastion of tolerance) is just baseless mudslinging at its finest.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Mar 24, 2011 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

"Sir! I am in no way shape or form a part of any negradom."

/Stan Musial

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Mar 24, 2011 7:34 PM CDT reply actions  

About Stan Musial

Mr. Musial is one of those great great ballplayers that was an even greater person to players of all color and denomination, fans, and writers. In all my years, I have never heard or read anything like what this guy is accusing Musial of doing back then.
This chass guy and the obnoxious writer who ripped a genuine nice guy, Marcus Thames, should crawl back under the rock they came from.

by KalineCountry on Mar 24, 2011 7:43 PM CDT reply actions  

The thing that just pisses me off,

is he completely dismissed all of the quotes and stories about Stan going out of his way to be the exact opposite of what he is charging.

This is kind of my schtick on VEB, so if I’m out of line here on your site, I apologize in advance, but Murray Chass is an asshat.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 24, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

if I’m out of line here on your site, I apologize in advance,

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Mar 24, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

No shit

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Mar 24, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

quit being mean

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 24, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Mar 24, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a Strange Column

I don’t know this guy from anyone. The points AJM maakes are very good. I’m sure Stan Musial was not a perfect person every moment of his life. The stories that I’ve heard are pretty overwhelming in quantity on how nice of a person that Stan the Man was. If Miller was correct, and it is a huge if, I’m not sure that Musial was even involved in the management of the restaurant, more than greeting the customers. And that is the only possible excuse I can think of for story that is unsubstanatiated, and probably never will be substantiated, because it is hearsay of hearsay from a bitter old man.

I try to think of a reason why a columnist, well former columnist, would attack Stan Musial and it sounds like possibly Stan did not walk the labor line. That the columnist generally took a labor line, and listened with all sorts of reverence to the former baseball labor leader, who took a shot at Stan Musial in a state of possible semi-dementia, and….
Wait, this is more speculation than my mind can handle. Oh well, blog on former columnist!

by Philar on Mar 25, 2011 6:42 AM CDT reply actions  

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