Rangers set minor league rotations
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 30, 2011 9:43 PM CDT
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Evan Grant has a blog post up laying out what the rotations will be for each of the Rangers' full-season minor league affiliates.
Interesting collection of arms, with some really intriguing young Latin guys in the Hickory rotation. The most surprising move is that Kasey Kiker is being dropped back down to high-A, where he'll be in a tandem arrangement with Robbie Erlin at the start of the year.
The Rangers, of course, took Kiker instead of the more highly touted Kyle Drabek in the 2006 draft. While Kiker is starting the year in low-A, Drabek will be starting the season in the Toronto rotation.
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He'll never have it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Never
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
No way
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Well,
maybe
Lone Star Ball - 2010 -- It's time
I'm a believer
by Mark from OC on Mar 31, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I really am hoping for some guys to vault up the prospect lists
from the Myrtle Beach and Hickory rotations. Other than Kiker, I like the MB guys quite a bit.
Go Rice Owls!
Matt Harrison - 2011 Rangers #3 Starter!
That Frisco roto is exciting
Double-A: Frisco
RHP Wilfredo Boscan
LHP Martin Perez
RHP Jake Brigham
LHP Miguel De Los Santos
RHP Carlos Pimentel
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
There's a ton of talent there.
I’m surprised Grimm is going straight to Hickory and skipping short season.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I don't know
Perez is Perez.
De Los Santos is really nice.
The other guys are pretty fringey right now.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 30, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I've always been high on Boscan
And Pimentel has a big arm.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Boscan
I used to like him a lot more…just seems like a pretty low ceiling guy, maybe a bullpen arm.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 30, 2011 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
season tix?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Naw, I'm just saying the ducats are cheap.
They can be had pretty easy on the weekdays.
Que sera, sera.
I like that whole Myrtle roto.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Yep pretty salty
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I think he will be too
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Anyone see the KLaw tweet about Loux sitting 89-90 recently
instead of the 91-96 earlier in the spring
interesting, I suppose
but I’d rather see what his velo is a month from now and through the season than worry about it today. He needs to pitch for a while before we have any idea what he is.
Nelson Cruz - 2011 MVP
As you know
It wasn’t a second guess for some of us. It was draft day anger.
by Brett Perryman on Mar 30, 2011 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
what were your feelings on each
after Drabek went through TJ and Kiker was coming off pretty solid minor league years?
Kiker was considered an overdraft at the time
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 30, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah I'd rather gamble on the asshole if he's a better player
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
esp when you're the son of a major leaguer.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Especially when
I heard that character stuff was a load of crap. Drabek babysitted for my brother and his friends up in the Woodlands. They said the whole character stuff was bullshit.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Sickels in his 2006 1st round commentary
Apparently the Rangers aren’t worried about Kiker’s rumored makeup problems.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 30, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh man I got a laugh out of the Jeffress right up
He’s happy people liked his makeup back then as he takes another drag on his joint
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know what either of their makeup issues were
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 30, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay
They still reached and blew the pick.
The Phillies knew what Drabek’s issues were, and took him. That worked out pretty well for them.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 30, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Traded him for Roy Halladay.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
by Aqua on Mar 30, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
uhh
Reynolds at 7, Lincoln at 2, Miller at 1, Rowell at 11
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-tracker/2006/261330.html
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I won't ever give the Rangers the benefit in the draft
They’ve been horrible over the last decade. Latin America is where they get the props.
Smoak got them Lee and a WS
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I expect irrationally big things from Skole even though I think they should have taken Sale
But nobody had anyway of knowing that he’d sign for basically what Skole did. Also picked up the Olt-meister last year.
But fucking Kellin Deglan
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Skole doesn't bother me anymore.
I thought it was a signability thing, but they paid him right at slot.
I’ll be pissed about Deglan for a long time.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Through a massive amount of painstaking (read: lol guessing at draft picks 2 months before) research, I decided who I want the Rangers to draft this year
I want Tyler Beede.
Tyler Beede, P , Lawrence Academy, Groton, Mass.: Beede has a projectable body and already has a 4 pitch mix that he has command of. He is polished and has the upside of a #2 starter.
This site (http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft-2011) has him going at 28
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I've seen him linked to us in multiple places.
If we could snag him at 33 and then CJ Cron at 39, I’d wet maself.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Henry Owens was linked to us too
Edison HS, Huntington Beach, Calif.: Big lefty sits low 90’s but could add a few MPH’s when he adds strength. He knows what he’s doing on the mound. He has a big, slow breaking ball as well.
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
And because I like block quotes, here's the guy the mock has us taking now
Michael Kelly, P , West Boca Raton (Boca Raton Fla.): Very good delivery with no mechanical flaws and top velocity. Big breaking curve with good command. Top of the draft talent. Could even add to the 96 he currently throws.
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh shit, our guys love velo with command.
I could see it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I don't get it though
If he has that velocity to go with, “good command” and no mechanical flaws. you’d think he’d go higher. This draft isn’t so deep that that would fall to 30, I don’t think
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
HS guy, right?
Where is he committed?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Committed to Florida per Baseball America
Just found and am gonna bookmark this page. It’s good stuff
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/recruiting/2010/2610948.html
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Could be considered a tough sign.
In a strong college year like this year, HS guys considered tough signs may start falling.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Beede committed to Vandy and is 19th
Owens to Miami and is 20
Kelly is 25
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like UT's class is going to take a huge hit.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I bet against Purke falling to the disAstros
no way he doesn’t turn it around
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
x
Michael Kelly, RHP: A long, lanky right-hander, Kelly just screams projection, but the present stuff and feel for pitching are so impressive, you have to wonder just how good he’ll get. Kelly worked at 92-94 mph with his fastball on Sunday out of an easy, consistent delivery. He showed off a good breaking ball and changeup as well, working at 75-76 with good depth with his hook. He struggled somewhat from the stretch position, and did not look quite as comfortable there, but in general showed frontline starter potential.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Looking up C.J. Cron on the intertubes
They say he plays some catcher too. I wonder if he can stick at the position
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Look up his stats from this year.
One place I read today had him as the second best college hitter this year behind Rendon. We need that kind of hitter in this system.
And the only reason he’s not playing catcher full time right now is that he’s recovering from injury.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I lol'd hard
.518/.574/.929 with the power suppressing bats
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Not enough walks
/Naysayer
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
by WestTxAg06 on Mar 31, 2011 6:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
More on Beede, dude has a fucking perfect pitcher's body
6’4" 200
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Played defensive back in high school. here's a good read
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Yay
Tyler Beede is an interesting guy. Live and loose, what I’d call a whippy arm. A little long through the back in this look, but correctable. FB to 92 with sink & run, CB with shape and proper rotataion. Best arm out of Red Sox country this year
video here:
http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/11/19/tyler-beede-video-2#more-9960
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, Sale was talked about as being a relatively cheap sign for a while before the draft.
That’s why I was particularly upset at passing on him.
Signed for less than $100k more than Skole.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
He's going to fucking rake.
Gaaaaaaaah.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Drabek's big
“makeup issue” was a PI he got in high school. Because drinking beer in Texas in High School is completely unheard of.
IMO Kiker’s makeup issue was he is like the same height as Ben.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
by DJCahill on Mar 31, 2011 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Going back and looking...
…BA had Kiker ranked #25 going into the draft.
Drabek was ranked #12.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 30, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel bad for our guys having to go against the Royals AAA team.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Scheppers will shit on them like everyone else
They’ll all just be another K on the outfield fence
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Opening week
I think I’m most interested to see what Mendez does. He looked downright nasty at ST. Maybe De Los Santos and Scheppers after that.
by Brett Perryman on Mar 30, 2011 10:00 PM CDT reply actions
For Mendez?
I don’t know about that. Part of the reason that I’m interested in seeing how he does is that, for all of his ability, he was pretty awful in the SAL and mediocre in the college leagues.
by Brett Perryman on Mar 30, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Whatever happened to Daniel Gutierrez?
Is he still in the organization? TJ surgery or another injury?
Extended Spring Training, maybe?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
he kinda sucks now
fastball velocity peaking at like 84
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
doesn't really surprise me if true
hasn’t he been 82-84 since last year?
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
he was a bad seed.....
who lost all of his velo…buh-bye.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Yep
Gutierrez was released a few days ago. Other players that have recently been axed – Tim Steggall, Cody Podraza, Justin Earls, Starling de la Rosa, Johnathon Moore, Jake Kaase, Edward Alfonzo, Doug Hogan.
.
Rangers president Nolan Ryan told MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan that he expects Texas to repeat as AL West champions. The Rangers will have the flexibility to make another major midseason acquisition, according to Ryan.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I so hope the Brew Crew falls out early
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
we trade for Greinke
Feliz never goes to the rotation.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Doubt that's true
Greinke would pretty much just replace CJ next year. You’d still need like 3 other pitchers to step up to fill the current 3-5 holes, unless you think 3 of Hunter/Holland/Harrison/Ogando/etc are locks for the rotation.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Yep...
I would think Feliz could be better or just as good as Holland, Harrison, and maybe Hunter.
I think
by next year it is conceivable that one of Holland or Harrison might be a non-candidate for the rotation, and settling into a future as a reliever.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Shelby Miller is our new Drabek
and it makes me sad.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
12.08 K/9 in 104 A-ball innings
meh
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't talk about him.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
And Dazed
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
We passed on Shelby Miller, the #13 prospect in the land this year
To draft Matt Purke.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
The difference is...
…Purke was considered a top guy at the time — ahead of Miller, in most rankings, I think. I don’t think Kiker was regarded more highly than Drabek by many folks.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 30, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with this
I’m pissed since I know the outcome, but Purke was the right pick there, I think
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
At the time I wanted Drabek and Miller
course I also wanted Pawelek in 05 and Beavan in 07.
by groundingout on Mar 31, 2011 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions
For the record, Shelby Miller is six months older than Martin Perez.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Manny Banuelos, the Yankees' prospect that people have been going gaga about.
One month older than Martin Perez. Appeared in three games at AA, while Perez has appeared in 28.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Perez will have the better career
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Spanish for "special?"
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
That night was unbearable
Anyone and everyone connected to orospects on Twitter tried to make out with him that night.
That might have been the final nail in the coffin for me unfollowing Goldstein. And interestingly, I haven’t missed him.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
by WestTxAg06 on Mar 31, 2011 6:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yankees don't tend to push their players as aggressively as Texas does
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 30, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
That could help explain why they stay shiny and tradeable
If you don’t push guys, they don’t struggle and keep their trade value high.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
both project to be what ceiling wise
strong number 2s on a championship team right
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
BR has Banuelos at 5'11"
I can’t believe I hadn’t heard that yet.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
here's a good comparison
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/3/4/2028873/prospect-smackdown-manny-banuelos-vs-martin-perez
for added entertainment, note one mr maniac saying that Perez’s stuff isn’t good
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, let's skip to June, see who we'll draft, get all butthurt when Texas does it wrong, and then come back to Friday
seems like a plan
>mfw
I am in favor of parts of this plan
Against other parts.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
That's the part I don't like.
I hope they do.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I don't think I'll be upset since money shouldn't be an issue
We’ll be able to open the checkbook for all the annual high school players that fall for money/are pushed down by the redonkulous college class
>mfw
by MonkeyEpoxy on Mar 30, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Mavs just let the Clips right back into this game.
Up by 16 and now Griffin has cut it all the way down to 7.
Griffin is just taking over.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
5 now.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Myrtle Beach roto
Hey guys, noob here at LSB but really excited the Rangers are in MB this year. I live about 5 minutes from the Salem Red Sox stadium so I hope to make it out to the 3 series MB is in Salem this year in May, June and August depending on work. Hopefully I can get some nice video of guys in the roto and any hitters you guys want me to get a look at during that time. I’ll try to remember to set up a fanpost for those series if you guys want.
Thanks for the reminder
I’ve been lurking for a long time here but finally decided it was time to start posting. I read the users guide yesterday and even remembered that the reply button is my friend!
by VARangerfan34 on Mar 31, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
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