Open Letter to the Rangers re: John Rhadigan
Mr. Ryan and Mr. Blake,
As an individual Rangers fan, I realize that my opinion is but a solitary voice in the aggregate that is the realm of Texas Rangers fandom. However, I also understand that much like every extra ticket sold is important, every additional fan of your wonderful organization has a similar importance. This is why I am writing to you today with this unsolicited, but unfortunately incredibly warranted, opinion on the state of the television broadcast team.
John Rhadigan is an exceptional pre- and post-game leader for the Texas Rangers, and seemingly an incredibly well-respected and liked individual both within the organization and throughout the Dallas/Ft. Worth media. That makes the criticism presented in this letter something that cannot be laced with vitriol, as is often the case when issuing displeasure with someone's performance. Mr. Rhadigan has done nothing to warrant any disrespect; however, valid criticisms and significant issues exist with his performance.
Quite simply, John is a veritable beating to listen to on a daily basis as the voice of the Texas Rangers. He sounds uninspired, uninterested, and seemingly detached from the game that he is presenting. His lack of basic baseball knowledge (that Mr. Grieve has had to correct on air) is supplemented by a shockingly common confusion over which players he is witnessing on the field. The following is just a short list of issues:
- Mislabeling Jackie Robinson Day as Martin Luther King Day
- Confusing Elvis Andrus and Julio Borbon, Magglio Ordonez and Miguel Cabrera, Elvis Andrus and Andres Blanco, Elvis Andrus and Julio Borbon, Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez
- Calling for an RBI on a double play, to which Tom Grieve corrected him on air
- Calling a strike out immediately after calling a 3-1 pitch
- A ball was hit to "left right center field"
- Incessantly repeating "the side is retired" at the end of every half inning
- Incessantly repeating "payoff pitch" on most 3-2 counts
- Inability to modify his playcalling in any way and overusing "makes the play"
- Inherently disingenuous "let's play ball, y'all" and "there ya go, boys"
I hate criticizing someone so robustly, but the plain and simple truth is this: the broadcast has become downright painful to listen to and is driving this viewer away from the television medium of enjoying the game.
It is grotesquely unfortunate that we have had to endure such a precipitous decline in the quality of the television broadcast from Josh Lewin to John Rhadigan. The common rhetoric has been to "give John time" from fellow media outlets, and this is the reason that this letter did not come sooner. However, there has been no trend indicating improvement. Quite the contrary, the broadcast has stayed consistently painful.
This is an appeal, a plea... a humble request, if you will... to rectify this situation as quickly as possible. It is upsetting to me, and to many other Rangers fans, that attempting to enjoy watching our favorite team is met with such frustration in how it is conveyed to us.
I sincerely hope you give this letter, and the others you undoubtedly receive, credence.
Thank you for your time,
Benjamin Taylor
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Good job.
Like most, I like Rhads, but obviously not as a PBP guy. Why they wouldn’t hire a professional for such an important job is beyond me.
There hasn’t been a homer hit this season that Rhads knew was gone prior to it landing in the OF seats. It’s like he’s watching the game on a 2 second delayed monitor while studying his notes or something.
"I think that Rangers is good team." ~ South Korean Ranger Nation
by hubcityraider on Apr 19, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Very good letter.
I completely agree.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
you are the new letter writer
plz write a letter to sbn about the z key not working. it’s a very similar problem, so maybe you can just modify this letter slightly
by sam in so cal on Apr 17, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Damn that is annoying!
Just stopped working for me.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
hookd on fonix werkd fer me
at least you could tell what I meant.
thanks.
by beaudog on Apr 16, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I gave him a 'D' in the poll.
Rangers brass (if you bother reading this):
At least he’s not a Rex Hudler, cocaine-fueled sort of announcer. That’s all I can say for him except that I’m sure he’s a nice guy and he’s probably doing his best. Definitely belongs in broadcasting but I don’t think calling plays will ever be his strength. He’s more of a journalist/anchor type and there’s nothing wrong with that. This is the team’s mistake. You win the AL pennant and let a good play-by-play guy go, then replace him with someone who has no experience? Really? I mean if it were the mid-Aughts, the team was bad, and Josh Lewin had bolted for a new gig, sure…try a John Rhadigan. But not when you’re in the spotlight.
I want to add that I think Tom Grieve is excellent at his job. Can’t speak for everyone but I bet most people would agree.
Well they let Lewin know he was gonna be gone before we even won the division
and let us know before we even got out of the first round, I believe. But yeah should’ve never happened to begin with. Fn ridiculous. >.<
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Love the 'Inherently disingenuous "let's play ball, y'all" and "there ya go, boys"'
Well done.
"Fire Rhadigan into the sun" - rexcellent
by Thought_Experiment on Apr 16, 2011 5:07 PM CDT reply actions
Thank you, very much.
I should have clarified in my letter that these phrases are certainly disingenuous, but I’m not implying that he is being malicious by using them. Someone higher up could be pushing this as a greater sense of the new marketing that the Rangers have been pushing to target the “Texas” side of things.
I like John. He seems like a great person, but his efforts here are misplaced, be them his or others.
Bravo! Bravo! Well done sir, hope it does the trick!
At the very least should open some eyes.
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
If hating Rhads is wrong I don't want to be right.
While well written,
I think even if every member of LSB emailed them, it still wouldn’t change their minds.
Glad to see Herbie responded.
by lost in space on Apr 16, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
This
The guy is going to get a year at least. I would be willing to guess the TV ratings are great no matter who is calling the games just because this team is badass right now.
I think he should just crack and go straight Hawk Harrelson that dude is crazy as hell but after watching 2 innings of CWS baseball I walk around the house yelling HE GONE!!1 like a fuckin crazy person
Very well written
I’d almost say you got two for the price of one by posting it here too.
I'm an F-18, bro. And I will destroy you in the air. I will deploy my ordinance to the ground
Appreciate it Witt
Somehow thinking of Bobby Witt made me think of Mad Hatter Todd Burns
Don’t ask me why
Gotta say
that this is very, very well written. Covers the main issues while maintaining a tone of respect and admiration. Appropriately concise without missing any important points. Not sure how much you edited this before sending/posting – you did a very good job with this. Couldn’t have put it better myself. (and I’m a top 1-2% person (kidding))
Section 239, Row 1
heh. match
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
by Mike E on Apr 17, 2011 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pretty much a straight shot from the gut without much revision
And thanks for the commentary.
I’m whatever match is, but a little higher.
Just kidding.
Good stuff.
Move him into the studio for the post-game wrap ups and get Renner off of my TV. But get Rhadigan out of the booth already, he’s drowning in there and it’s embarrassing to watch.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
by TXHC on Apr 16, 2011 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't even mind him taking a Knox type role
when he travels with the Rangers in years past and did it while they were on the road I didn’t mind him at all.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Maybe Renner could become the play-by-play guy.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 17, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I was trying to come up with the worst solution possible to the Rhadigan problem.
Did it work?
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 18, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a feeling we're going to be adding many more transgressions to the list you've compiled.
Great letter. Thanks for representing us.
"We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames." - Ron Washington 04/03/11
Thank you erudy!
I really did try to stay away from quirks and focus on things that I deemed troublesome…
That’s why there wasn’t a troika of “It’s a caught”, teletubbies, and warming A-Rod up.
You kept it professional
which is more than some can say…
"We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames." - Ron Washington 04/03/11
Well thanks
Despite being an idiot on here, I’m actually a fairly focused/professional dude.
LSB is a guilty pleasure.
Heh, as for many of us.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
He's new
Seems like I’m way outnumbered, but I say give him some time to improve…. I will admit, the “let’s play ball, y’all” has to go and has to go now. The other mistakes, maybe it’s nervousness? Surely he can’t be is dumb as he sometimes seem.
I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubble gum.
If we had the worst record in baseball last year this still wouldn't make sense.
We’re finally a team that’s being recognized and this is the only guy we could find?
by lost in space on Apr 16, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Only 30.
There are only 30 MLB play by play jobs n the country. We are the largest single team market. We deserve someone truly great.
by ryanpaulsmith on Apr 20, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I honestly think he's this dumb.
Watching him previously while he was reporting from the bleachers with that goofy ass smile and slow speech pattern, along with a never-changing expression on his face just gives me the impression that he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed.
So far he’s done nothing to change my mind.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
It's pretty obvious extemporaneous speaking is not his forte.....
which seems to be a very necessary prerequisite of a good PBP man….Nolan needs to give him a bunch of tapes of old games and make him practice nonstop. Maybe hire a tutor to travel with him on road trips…
I'd feel better if i knew he was sitting in the booth watching batting practice for 2-3 hours
and getting a feeling for how the ball carries. this is his first road trip but his ability to discern where a ball off the bat will land is absolutely horrendous. it is killing him and completely affects his call. not to mention it appears he has so much on his plate during a broadcast that he is unable to figure out when to have enthusiasm during a play. it’s just really sad to listen to and makes me question his overall baseball acumen.
I know for football the announcers practice on taped games...
I cannot imagine anyone listening to Rhads doing a game and thinking this would work out. Wonder if he was just handed the job with no audition.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
from The Ticket
A few weeks before the season started he was filling in on one of the shows and was talking about how he got the gig. Apparently he auditioned years ago when the position was open bu didn’t get it, but the Ranger’s liked him. He said he got the offer out of the blue and accepted without having to do another audition or submitting any audio reels.
So to answer your question, there was no audition, he was just well liked by Nolan and the other front office types.
by TequilaMockingbird on Apr 18, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
9/10
If you signed the e-mail “Gosh Flewin” then 10/10.
Lord have mercy on my rough and rowdy ways.
by TheJeezus on Apr 16, 2011 10:07 PM CDT reply actions 8 recs
My 2 cents
I think this might be one of the few times where someone from this site could do better than the guy in the booth. I just don’t think John has actually watched all that much baseball. IMO he seems like a casual fan who just so happens to be in the booth. I don’t think he has seen enough baseball to understand what a routine play looks like.
Regardless of what we say I think he will get to at least finish this year. During that time I think he will become decent at PBP simply due to the amount of baseball he is going to have to watch.
I turned the volume up for a couple of innings today and his calls of the mundane are better than they used to be. My biggest problem right now is he seems to be just as excited when the bad guys do something good as when the Rangers do. It’s very odd having someone who should be on our side sounding excited when a Yankee or Tiger hit a dong it really bugs me.
FWIW I have just moved over to syncing up the MLB at bat stream with the TV and it works well I even piped it into my stereo so I still get good sound.
Synching
What is the best way to do that?
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 16, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
X
I let the MLB at bat app take the lead and get it synch’d up with the pause function on my DVR works pretty damn well.
I did this during the Directv free week...
I felt like fucking Einstein.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
This is exactly what I started doing this weekend.
I didn’t even own the app, but downloaded it and paid the price JUST so I don’t have to listen to John F’n Rhadigan.
Your signature makes your agreement somewhat conflicted. - FuturePants 03/25/11
I did it last night
When the ESPN guys started to make me lose my mind.
Nadel is sooooo much better than them or Rhadigan.
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 18, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, in fairness to Rhadigan, Nadel is an unfair standard by which to hold him in first year
Nadel is better than just about everyone whose name doesn’t rhyme with Schmully.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Well ok
Doesn’t mean I have to listen to Rhadigan when he is clearly terrible at his job.
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 18, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Gotta disagree with you respectfully here
Any sort of live or off-the-cuff commentary is NOT simple.
Good fucking Christ
It’s been 14 fucking games. Give the guy a chance, people.
You think it’s some kind of easy skate, calling MLB play by play?
LSB seems to think every commentator other than Lewin, Grieve, and Vin Scully are brain dead stumblebums.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 12:02 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Nobody has said it's easy
They want someone who has done the fucking job before. What is wrong with that?
by Black Francis on Apr 17, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
I don't even care if he has experience in PBP.
I just want someone that has actually watched or been around baseball for a significant period of time. I understand that being an announcer isn’t easy, but I feel that almost anyone here on LSB has watched more and knows more about baseball than Rhadigan. Isn’t the announcer supposed to help provide us with insight into the players or the game? From what I have seen so far, I don’t get the feeling that Rhadigan knows anything about baseball and I’m unsure whether he will ever be ‘baseball smart.’ If I want insightful commentary (mixed in with the Angrydome™), I come here to LSB. If I want extremely dumbed down commentary that could be provided by any Cowboys-turned-Rangers fan off the street, I listen to Rhadigan.
I hope he improves.
"Certainly, we were penalties, and we stopped ourselves." - Les Miles
by e2drummer on Apr 17, 2011 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
I think i could count on one hand the things i have learned about baseball from Josh Lewin
Very nice guy, and a knack for play by play (he did an even better job w/ the Chargers, imo), but his commentary was far from “smartened up.”
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
True, but that means he at least had one good quality in his knack for PBP.
I guess my issue with Rhadigan is that he brings NOTHING to the table. What is he good at? If you aren’t a wordsmith (which Rhadigan will most likely never be), fine, you better know baseball or provide us with some insight to keep us interested. I guess Rhadigan could eventually become knowledgeable about baseball, but it will take years and years. With a team coming off a World Series appearance, you would think the team could find a candidate that had at least one talent (either a knack with words or baseball knowledge) that he could immediately bring to the TV booth. Instead they hired someone with neither…
"Certainly, we were penalties, and we stopped ourselves." - Les Miles
by e2drummer on Apr 17, 2011 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, I took a valium about 20 minutes ago, so this may not make as much sense as it does in my head
Bear with me.
But i find it hard to believe that Rhadigan is that much of a baseball ignoramus. The club MUST have given him some kind of audition, both radio pbp wise and Baseball IQ wise, doncha think? Just because he is saying stupid shit, doesn’t necessarily mean that’s how he’d converse pressure free, like in an LSB living room.
For instance, I represent a community of about 200 engineers on this one weekly telcon, and this meeting can just zap me out of nowhere with a question about some obscure pub or spec, and, even 3 years later, sometimes I am essentially “hummana…hummanna…I’ll have to get back to you on that.” When in reality, I knew the answer cold. I just choked.
Rhadigan may be a bit gunshy, and playing it really safe. I dunno.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions
It doesn't matter if he's knowledgeable off-the-air
if he can’t convey his knowledge in words on-the-air. Isn’t it the job of a PBP announcer to effectively put what he’s seeing or thinking into words? If he can’t do that, then he’s not a good at his job.
"Certainly, we were penalties, and we stopped ourselves." - Les Miles
No disagreement
How good were you the 1st 2 weeks on the job?
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions
No one is good at first, but then you learn and improve.
So far, there has been no improvement from Rhadigan.
I’m most pissed off that I honestly don’t know if the Rangers put him through any sort of audition. It could have been that Nolan liked him, so he got the job. It’s like a company playing favorites and hiring an under-qualified applicant. Rhadigan will take significantly longer to learn the ropes (if he ever does) than someone who is more qualified.
"Certainly, we were penalties, and we stopped ourselves." - Les Miles
Depends on the job, obviously, but I get your point.
My point is not that John Rhadigan should be good in his first two weeks. It’s that no one calling an MLB team, especially the defending champions in a major media market, should be in their first two weeks of PBP ever.
by philkid3 on Apr 17, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don't disagree with any of that
I say something along those same lines in a post below.
The initial decision was a poor one. That’s when all the wailing should have occurred, though, not 2 weeks into the season.
I will say this: despite the fact that we are the AL champs, i doubt we are really considered the plummiest of plum jobs.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Theres only 30 of these jobs
Shouldn’t be hard to find someone who doesn’t need a few weeks to get from being absolutely terrible to just passable
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 17, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
For a high-profile job like the one he has,
the team should have hired someone who could be good from the jump. What they did was the equivalent of hiring a guy from the accounting department of a major company to run the PR department. It makes no damn sense.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 17, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
And you peaked then, of course, too?
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, many have implied it is easy
In this very thread, one person calls him dumb, and another claims that anybody from LSB could do a better job. I recall probably dozens of similar sentiments in other threads.
But that’s beside the point. I would have been happier to have a seasoned pro in here, too. I’m not defending the choice, nor his performance to date.
But he’s got the job. Shitcanning him 14 or 20 games in would be pretty damn kneejerky premature. Josh lewin was an absolute beating to listen to when he first started, too. I hated the guy initially.
Most everybody here thinks they know more than the guys calling the game, anyway, so why the daily fucking moans? I guess I don’t pay as much attention to the announcers as everybody else. And i also just think it is such a tiny portion of the Ranger experience. Most LSBers watch the game in real time anyway. Turn on Nadel. He’s got chunks of Lewin and Grieve in his stool.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
There are a lot of people whose comments I don't bother digesting
Anyone who’d say that play-by-play would be an easy gig and that anyone can do it…well that’s stupid. But, still, there’s nothing wrong with people not liking Rhadigan’s work. I didn’t like Lewin way back when he started with the Rangers but he wasn’t this bad. He’d called baseball games before, at least. To me if you’re a big league team you don’t hire some guy with studio experience but no play-by-play experience. You’re above that. I’m willing to bet there are minor league guys who could do a better job. Probably quite a few of them. I don’t know why the Rangers didn’t trawl the bush leagues for someone who had at least done this job before.
And if John Rhadigan wants to do play-by-play, that’s where he should be: some minor league radio booth getting a feel for the game.
Anyway, yeah I can see now that some people have actually suggested that they or some random hypothetical person could do a better job than Rhadigan. I don’t agree with that, but it shows how frustrated people are, and they do have a right to be frustrated.
by Black Francis on Apr 17, 2011 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
This is pretty much how I feel about it.
The problem here is that Rhadigan has never done this before, and it shows. A major-league team, a team that went to the World Series last year—should not be hiring someone with zero experience at PBP for their broadcast. A major-league team’s broadcast should be more professional than this.
That's not true at all.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Which?
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions
People here like other broadcasters
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
So name em
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I like Hawk Harrelson more than Rhadigan right now...
"Certainly, we were penalties, and we stopped ourselves." - Les Miles
Hasn't done PBP since 2004
And the Hawk comment is seriously, hyperbolically dumbass.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm actually okay with most MLB PBP guys, and genuinely like several.
Not knowing names off the top of my head, the Twins, Mets, and Reds come to mind quickly. In addition to Scully and Lewin.
I am too
I think we are in a very small minority, though.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Most are fine by me.
I have complained about Barnett, but he’s not all that terrible. It’s just when you put him next to Nadel he sounds as bad as Edith Bunker’s singing.
by Black Francis on Apr 17, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Bob carpenter
Of the Nats and former ranger broadcaster is terrific. Heard him do lee’s gem this week and longed for him to work rangers games.
Jack Daddy
How long has he been the Nats guy?
Because I have something posted somewhere from ‘08-’09 on how often the Nats’ PBP guy made mistakes.
I love Jon Miller, too
And I’ve heard him get shit on here many a time.
The other guy is a homer pick who only did TV for 2 years. I loved him, too, but that hardly refutes my point.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Off the top of my head...
Vin Scully is a treasure. I actually don’t mind the Sunday Night game these days. Jon Miller is one of the best in the business. Gary Thorne and Jim Palmer are pretty good in Baltimore. Pittsburgh’s broadcast is pretty good. If you can get past the fact that you’re listening to a Red Sox broadcast, Don Orsillo and Jerry Remy are ok. Dick Enberg doing baseball is pretty neat. Dick Bremer and Bert Blyleven are pretty awesome in Minnesota. The guys on the YES network aren’t perfect but they aren’t bad, either. Mark Grace is kind of a douche on the FOX broadcasts but he’s alright on the Diamondbacks broadcasts. Glen Kuiper and Ray Fosse are kind of milquetoast but they have their moments. I hear them a lot and I’ve never wanted to turn them off because they are bad broadcasters, though, when they make fun of the Rangers, that’s a mood killer. Thom Brennaman is good in Cincinnati, although, if he is paired with Jeff Brantley it kind of blows. Milwaukee has a good group, but they’re in Nadel territory because you’re only going to want to hear Uecker. Gary Cohen is excellent for the Mets…and he calls Mets games. Duane Kuiper and Mike Krukow are awesome. Two of the best in the game. The Giants have an awesome group calling games. It’s too bad that they are with the Giants.
The best thing the Rangers have going for them is Jim Knox.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 17, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
You like Jim Knox more that TAG or Eric Nadel?
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
In my heart, yes...
In my mind, good lord, no.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 17, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
See...
I had to listen to Gary Thorne the entire playoffs, and couldn’t stand him.
A lot of the other guys I tend to agree with, though… save the TAG hatred/Knox love.
I’m sure, beyond the regular TV broadcasters, there are a ton of guys calling minor league games, or games for other sports, who have experience, are comfortable in a PBP setting, and know baseball better than Rhads.
Wait...
what network did Gary Thorne do the playoffs for?
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 17, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
ESPN Americas
I didn’t mind him at all.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Yes, Thorne and Palmer are good.
Disagree ono Orsillo and Remy being okay, mostly for Remy’s accent.
Enberg is weird because he’s kind of out of it, but something about listening to him is soothing.
I miss Enberg as part of NBCs #1team when they had day football.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
Jon Miller is great
Morgan brought that broadcast down a few pegs. Miller’s very good. I have liked most of the Rangers’ radio play-by-play guys who probably weren’t that popular around here. Cotroneo, the Angels defector Rojas. It would be awesome to have a Jon Miller but you don’t necessarily have to have one to have a professional, interesting to listen to broadcasting team.
by Black Francis on Apr 17, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
We had a Jon Miller
His name was Jon Miller.
His contract is up after this year.
I want him.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Maybe that was the plan all along
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
I suggested that earlier in the offseason.
But if Rhadigan got a multi-year deal that kinda muddies up the water a little.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Did he?
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
I've seen that he did flying around on here.
I’m not sure…
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
You see...
thats a fastball. Thanks for clearing that up, Joe.
by stormdude3603 on Apr 19, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I would have gladly taken Victor Rojas.
He’s probably sold his soul to the Angels organization, but whatever.
I would also die if they promoted Nadel to a Vin Scully style role and had him do TV and radio PBP simultaneously with TAG in the booth as well. I know Tom isn’t a PBP guy, so they’d probably have to get a third person, but I just don’t care.
Meh, Rojas is dead to me after his Angels d-baggery and blocking of AJM last year
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
blocking of AJM?!?
Damn, I’m sorry I missed this.
No idea what this is referring to.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Apr 26, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Rojas was mocking the Rangers on Twitter early last season about how division titles werent decided in May or somesuch
Then when the Rangers pulled away from the Angels, AJM asked Rojas about it on Twitter. Rojas promptly blocked him.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Wow. That's umm... wow.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 28, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, Rojas is correct...
that was still kind of douchey to block him because of that. Too bad, Rojas sounds like an even keel guy on radio/TV.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
So basically, you got nuthin?
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
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by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions
If you're not Howard Cosell, fuck off!!!
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
Yep.
And unless someone’s a complete asshole, to campaign to get him fired is just wrong. I hope Herbie asked for the emails so he can bury them.
Getting rid of Lewin was dumb. Rhadigan has had stumbles. But fuck, this is not that big of a deal. We’ve got 90% of the season left, yet people are saying “I’ve already given him a chance”.
Que sera, sera.
x
But fuck, this is not that big of a deal
yes it is
exploding highfive
by sarnold on Apr 17, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
Scoop
People have every right to make something that affects them a “big deal” if they would like to. Now, it is your definition of a big deal that I challenge. I spent 30 minutes out of one day writing a letter concerned with something that takes up about 15 hours or so of my life on a weekly basis. That is a fairly significant chunk of my free time that I elect to watch the Rangers with and I didn’t spend a significant amount of time voicing my opinion.
Complaining about a luxury item is not going to have as much significance as other “real world troubles”, obviously – but you attempting to compare complaining about a luxury item as being insignificant because it has no real world bearing on our own lives isn’t exactly a fair comparison.
Pulling out the “whatever, quit bitching your life must be awesome to bitch about this” card is almost as obnoxious as blind raging over a luxury item.
by benjihana on Apr 18, 2011 5:44 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I agree.
Pulling out the "whatever, quit bitching your life must be awesome to bitch about this" card is almost as obnoxious as blind raging over a luxury item.
But I think it’s actually more obnoxious — and far more douche-y — to lecture people about it, as Scoop is doing.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 18, 2011 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions
The "it's not a big deal" line is on par with
“why are we worrying about this? There’s starving kids in China!”
The bottom line is I have to listen to Rhads for 3 hours a day for the next 140 days. That’s a lot of fucking hours. It’s worth bitching about.
It isn't even about a charmed life.
Last year was the first year that the Rangers have been meaningful on a national level. There’s a much greater chance for the Rangers to pick up loads of additional fans in local, regional, and national markets. The team’s decisions matter quite a lot now, and one of their “faces” is their regular TV play-by-play guy.
This is clearly not a personal attack on Rhadigan. If he were replacing Knox, I would have loved it. Rhadigan is professional, succinct, and even-keeled. He may eventually even be cut out for play by play. However, in a critical year where it’s important that the franchise put its best foot forward, this was a mistake.
It isn’t about my personal charmed life. It’s about this team making a smart business decision to maximize revenue in every way they can, and I can guarantee you that having a mediocre-at-best TV play-by-play guy is not going to accomplish that objective.
by jwiscarson on Apr 23, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well damn
You all let Brian beat you down on this. There are of course a few people (as always) who are saying stupid shit, “DIAF RHADS! YOU’RE A HORRIBLE HUMAN BEING!” But most people are saying he’s a nice guy and he’s good at certain stuff but PBP isn’t one of them. You mean to tell me NO ONE is ever good or at least decent at their job when they first start? That’s bullshit. If you’re still failing incredibly at your job two weeks in, you’re going to be getting some kind of warning.
It’s not like the guy is just making rookie mistakes. He says stuff over and over and over again. There were six double plays the other day and five of those he said, “Two for the price of one!” In the same stupid ass tone. “Let’s play ball y’all!” He has to know that sounds stupid. We’re the Texas Rangers, we don’t need to sound more Texan than are jerseys already look. Then there is the fact that he just doesn’t seem to know baseball that well. You say Lewin never taught you anything, but Lewin knew A LOT about baseball history. That just seems to be the guy he is, he does a lot of homework. And last but not least is his calls for exciting plays, it’s just horrible. I’m not just talking about when he gets it wrong on a fly ball….etc. It’s when he actually gets it right! His voice sounds so fucking cheesy and put on. It’s horrible.
Now of course he’ll get better. If you do something for 150 something games, you’re bound to get better. But I think it would be silly to say he has the talent to become anything more than a “tolerable” PBP guy. For a World Series team, I’d like a little more. Especially after giving up Lewin.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Apr 17, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
get this guy a valium.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
you mad Orange?

Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
If hating Rhads is wrong I don't want to be right.
by BigGuns on Apr 17, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LSB needs a negative rec button.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 17, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I have no idea who you are
Never noticed you.
But you feel free to flag all my posts for idiocy. I’ll keep on not noticing you. You’re probably aces with gifs in the game day threads or some such.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
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by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
You have no idea how much my feelings are hurt that you have no idea who I am.
I will fall asleep weeping quietly tonight.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 17, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry K. Bailey
Hutchinson
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
by Mike E on Apr 18, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I am beginning to more fully understand why people type "/Mike E"
after random stupid comments by other LSBers.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 18, 2011 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions
you are doing it wrong
/Mike E
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 18, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
If your interpretation is "random stupid comments" you're not understanding it.
by philkid3 on Apr 19, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Random non sequitur comments?
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by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 19, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I give up.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 19, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I just figured out who you were
That was an entertaining read. I missed that one when it came out. Thanks, neg-reccer.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 18, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I am filled with the joy of all interwebz that you figured out who I am. : |
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by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 18, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
All this stuff is pointless, in my opinion.
Not only is Ryan completely stubborn and hard-headed about these issues, bu he’s a personal friend to Rhaigan as well. I just don’t see anything happening for years.
This was really the only reason I was bummed that Greenberg left.. cause I really felt enough bad stuff from us then he would step in and make the change. Not Ryan though.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Maybe Rhadigan will step down for the greater good
‘cuz the travel taking him away from his family so much’
I’m sure the Herbster will eventually just stop reporting this stuff to anyone cause they know and don’t want to hear it. Maybe it’ll even just start going directly to Rhadigan so he can see what he needs to ’improve on.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
This is a ploy to get more people to attend games
as opposed to watching them on TV
by sam in so cal on Apr 17, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I don't think Rhadiagn knew what a Yankees roll call is...
or he did a really terrible job of explaining it the other day.
No way the Rangers are going to step in on this situation...
It is half of a month of the baseball season, and they will want to give him a chance. Broadcasting play-by-play is not easy, and his lack of experience shows. But it just irritates me that he is not listening to TAG, and he contradicts him. It is one thing not to be able to read a fly ball off the bat. I’ve always watched the direction and the reaction of the outfielders to know where the ball is going.
It is another thing not to learn from a man that played baseball, was a G.M. and has been in the booth for a long while. Confusing players, that may be ok for a beginner. But what is a beginner doing in a major league booth? What really bugs me is the stilted Texas schtick that seems to be forced into games. Stop it…please!
I know if I had a vote on the Rangers board, I would vote to move Mike Capps up from Triple A Round Rock to the Rangers baseball radio booth, and move Eric Nadel to the television booth. That wouldl make the radio fans mad, but would make the television fans happier. Capps is not perfect, but he is definitely a radiio baseball guy with passion and knowledge. I know Nadel can be conversational in the TV booth.
The problem with this...
…is twofold.
1). Nadel has indicated in the past he doesn’t want to do TV.
2). Nadel is not likely to be as good on TV as he is on the radio, because Nadel’s style is uniquely suited to radio (which is probably the reason behind #1).
He has turned down a TV gig before, according to what he has said in chats
He will only do radio…for any team.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
This is a big part of the problem...but there's a lot more..
But what is a beginner doing in a major league booth?
So you’re going to test your audience with some guy who’s never done this before and can’t think on his feet to save his life. A post and pre-game show is a totally different ballgame. Everything is choreographed. When you’re suddenly thrust into the spotlight live for hours a week you better be prepared. It’s not just that he sucks at PBP but he’s not at all prepared for the job. He doesn’t know the basic rules, he doesn’t know the players names, he doesn’t pay attention to the flight of the ball on and on …..
If the fan was left with the impression that he was at the very least prepared to do the job that he had months to prepare for then they would be a lot more forgiving. But when you add it all up you have a guy who’s a bumbler at PBP, ill prepared, not clever, force feeding Texas slogans into it at every opportunity and making laughable errors at every turn. If you’re going to go Texan he might as well go full Texan and throw some wranglers and a cowboy hat on but some guy from Michigan hardly fits the role. Maybe he can start doing a dance to the cotton eyed joe for a little added flavor. The country is becoming increasingly more sophisticated especially the younger fan base. The Rangers would of been much better off just sticking with Lewin on so many levels. I think that’s part of the problem. You replaced someone who many thought did an awesome job with a unadulterated ninnyhammer.
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
If hating Rhads is wrong I don't want to be right.
by BigGuns on Apr 17, 2011 8:18 AM CDT reply actions 8 recs
meant as reply to Philar
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
If hating Rhads is wrong I don't want to be right.
"ninnyhammer"
Heh. I’m stealing that one, BG. That’s gold.
K Scott Bailey = ninnyhammer.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, because anyone who thinks you're full of shit MUST be one.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 17, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Not at all
I disagreed with the consensus opinion around here, which usually means a big pile on. And i got it, but most of it was substantive and fair. Your reply was neither substantive nor original. Somebody’s thrown out that tired, cheesepone line at least a dozen times at LSB, and it’s always been asinine.
“Negative rec.” Ha! Such an apropo bon mot! Almost as whackilarious as when a facebooker laments the lack of an “unlike” button. Ahahaha!
I respect the opinions of my friends here that find him unsufferable. But I think the guy deserves a little time. I think the wrath at Rhadigan himself is misplaced. I think that in the grand scheme of things, this is small potatoes. And I wouldn’t even be chiming in on the subject at all, except that the bitching has become so ubiquitous, it’s gotten tiresome for me, especially when I read hyperbolic rants claiming anyone could do a better job.
So, in summary,
Up yours, you ninnyhammering noob.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't disagree with most of this, Brian...
Without knowing the source of direction behind John, I can’t assume that he is the sole source of the problems in the broadcast. I also agree that it is not an easy job, and that personal attacks, instead of job criticism, are misplaced.
I do, think, though, that you are discounting the number of individuals on this board who have significant and legitimate criticisms of Rhadigan as the PBP man, and instead focusing on the handful that just like to complain or whine about the wrong things.
Wasn't trying to be funny, substantive, or original.
I just genuinely wished I could have negatively rec’d your comment because I disagreed with it quite strenuously. I also didn’t happen to care enough to write a friggin’ treatise about it, so I simply noted that it would have been nice to be able to negatively rec a comment.
You seem to get your internet panties in a wad pretty easily.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 18, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Ninnyhammer.
I guffawed, and rec’d.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
"Ninnyhammer" = gold
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by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 17, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Well done.
I 100% agree. I have been waiting and hoping for improvement, but it is not there. I can add an example to Rhadigan getting a player wrong. During the Detroit series, Ryan Raburn was at bat with Ramon Santiago on first. Raburn hit the ball to left field and while the camera tracked the ball, Rhadigan said, “Raburn is rounding second and heading towards third.” I was confused about how Raburn could have gotten around second so quickly when he was the batter. Then I saw the runner round third and head for home. I was utterly confused until the camera showed Raburn standing on second. It was Santiago who rounded second and third and then scored, not Raburn. So until the camera pointed out Rhadigan’s error, I thought that Raburn had an incredibly unlikely inside-the-park homerun. This is intolerable from a PBP man.
- I survived the 2011 Opening Weekend LSB Tailgate Party -
I'd be down for Marky McLemore taking his place.
"I like to think of myself as Miguel Paul. Generally disappointing and a waste of space, but every once in a while, WOW."- ghtd36
i think Rusty is still under contract with the team, have him do it
by sam in so cal on Apr 17, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Not too many ex-pros that do pbp
Much different skill set than color.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
My Letter
To whom it may concern,
I hope that the organization can take a hard look at the job John Rhadigan has done so far this season. I realize that replacing the Play by Play man in the middle of the season and finding someone new is probably unrealistic, but something must be done. Rhadigan is painfully awkward, downright uninteresting, and makes tons of mistakes. His inexperience in the booth is obvious and noticeable. Of course, a failing play by play man will never shake my interest in watching Ranger baseball. But, I have decided to remedy the situation on my own in ways that I’m sure the organization would not be satisfied with:
1. muting the sound so that I can do work during the games
2. taping the games so that I can speed through them without listening to the broadcast for too long (and therefore bypassing the commercials)
Simply put, I do not enjoy watching Ranger baseball nearly as much this year and the main reason is John Rhadigan. I hope that at season’s end or whenever the time is right for an appropriate evaluation, the organization can find someone who can excite the Ranger fanbase during games. While I am sure ratings are through the roof this year, the organization should not interpret this increase as confirmation that Rhadigan is the right man for the job. I firmly believe that not only would ratings be higher if the play by play man was exciting and reasonably effective, but Ranger fans would enjoy watching games much more than they currently do.
Rhadigan is a poser.
I hate posers.
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
by Texas Jihad on Apr 17, 2011 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
He's not very good
but for the life of me, I can’t care enough to get upset about it.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
That's my initial point in a nutshell
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
this is where I'm at.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
That's valid...
if you don’t care, you don’t care. But the reason some of us care is we had an excellent telecast and now we don’t and some of us, such as myself, enjoy the game of baseball more when the telecast is good instead of bad.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 17, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
So, assuming you could only hire a AAA type guy right now
Would you fire Rhadigan today?
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Apr 17, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Barnett would obviously be promoted if Rhadigan were let go, though.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
No...
I wouldn’t. It’s still too early to be that drastic. But I do wish it had never come to this.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 17, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd do it.
I know the radio guys for the Rangers’ minor league teams are probably not employed by the Rangers, but perhaps they could work out a deal in which Rhadigan goes to Round Rock and their guy comes up to take Barnett’s place, who moves into the TV booth. That way Rhadigan isn’t fired…he’s being sent down to get some experience just like ballplayers do. And maybe he comes back later.
This assumes that Round Rock has a decent radio play-by-play guy. I don’t know whether they do or not.
by Black Francis on Apr 17, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
except there is no way Rhadigan would do that. He should go take Renner's fucking job....
what if Rhads took Renner’s job but the deal was Rhads had to have Renner’s hair? Wonder if he’d take the job.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Rhads with Renner's hair would be awesome in many ways,
but mainly because it would mean that Renner wasn’t there anymore.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 17, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Sending Rhads down
would necessitate putting Michael Kirkman on the 25 man roster, and the Rangers already have too many lefties in the bullpen. Think Rhads has it tough in the booth? How would he fare in middle relief?
by stormdude3603 on Apr 19, 2011 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Kirkman is already on the 25 man roster..
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
I'd demote him into his old role and put Barnett in the booth for the rest of the season.
Then reevaluate in the offseason.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
That is a good idea
But I would rather give Renner’s haircut to Rhads, put him back in his old role and hire the “Boom goes the Dynamite!” guy for PBP with Knox doing color from the stands and TAG taking the rest of the year off. If I have to listen to suck, I want it to be complete and total suck.
There should also be a fanpost each morning where people submit their list of boom goes the dynamite moments from last night’s game to see who has the most.
by thedudeabides on Apr 27, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
the point being
make it good or maximize the value of the broadcast as a drinking game
by thedudeabides on Apr 27, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
And I'd never begrudge someone that
but, as I’ve said before, for me the broadcast is always tertiary to what’s going on on the field and what’s going on around me where I’m watching it. So, as I suspected, I haven’t noticed Rhads as much as some. I doubt I’d notice him as much as I do if I weren’t made hyper-aware of all his mistakes so readily pounced upon by this board.
But, if you need a good PBP guy to enjoy the game more, then I fully understand the vehemence expressed here, and don’t have a problem with Rhad’s going in favor of a more experienced (or whatever the necessary qualification) broadcaster.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I appreciate you understanding this...
…there are a lot of posters here who have the suggestion to “turn it to Nadel” or “mute it.”
Discounting the fact that I’m in Houston, and can’t turn to Nadel…
Even for those that can, there shouldn’t be a requirement for this to happen… the PBP is the biggest part of the television presentation.
thanks
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Half of your bullet point list of complaints are minor verbal slipups that every broadcaster makes from time to time
If you weren’t already looking for reasons to criticize the broadcaster, you’d never notice them or not be troubled by them.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
by WestTxAg06 on Apr 17, 2011 3:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
What about the other half?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Apr 17, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I might agree if this was something that was only happening rarely.
But he makes mistakes like this every single game.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
by TXHC on Apr 17, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
try every single inning
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"You know you're from Dallas if the Blue Book value on your truck goes up and down depending on how much gas it has in it."
Eric Prince, Director, Department of the Obvious
by Eric Prince on Apr 19, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Sure... if "time to time" were valid...
Mislabeling Jackie Robinson Day as Martin Luther King Day – singular but very signifianct
Confusing Elvis Andrus and Julio Borbon, Magglio Ordonez and Miguel Cabrera, Elvis Andrus and Andres Blanco, Elvis Andrus and Julio Borbon, Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez – does not fit the “time to time” restraint – occurs way too frequently
Calling for an RBI on a double play, to which Tom Grieve corrected him on air – indicative of lack of knowledge of the topic he is paid to report
Calling a strike out immediately after calling a 3-1 pitch – certainly not the strongest example, but indicative of a lack of focus
A ball was hit to “left right center field” – see above… too frequent
Incessantly repeating “the side is retired” at the end of every half inning
Incessantly repeating “payoff pitch” on most 3-2 counts
Inability to modify his playcalling in any way and overusing “makes the play”
Inherently disingenuous “let’s play ball, y’all” and “there ya go, boys”
These four are admittedly style complaints. Certainly these wouldn’t be as grating as they are if the significant lack of focus and knowledge existed, but they do. I was commenting on the whole presentation, and I do see your point, but the importance of those “significant” points greatly outweighs whatever insignificance these semi-trivial complaints entail…
by benjihana on Apr 18, 2011 5:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How about
“through the wickets and over his head” on a ball that went over the head of Elvis Andrus
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Apr 17, 2011 4:32 PM CDT reply actions
The dude said "...bleacher creatures.."
fucking bleacher creatures. I can’t stand him as a PBP announcer. I have mlb.tv and at least have a choice as to which broadcast I listen to. I’ve given up on listening to Rhadigan. I would rather listen to water dripping on tin than Rhadigan fuck everything up about my favorite sports team.
by DevilManHammy on Apr 17, 2011 5:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
For the record, that's what a group of Yankee fans are actually called.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I see that's what they call the section that does roll call
for all of the starting yankees at the beginning of the game.
I hate that name and I hate the fucking yankees and want no association with the evil empire.
by DevilManHammy on Apr 17, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
AAA
Maybe we could send rhads down to round rock to let him straighten out his call
It's fun to do bad things.
It's not a bad for a fat kid that everyone makes fun of when he runs - Bengie
by fake nolan ryan on Apr 17, 2011 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This is truly sad that you, and others, have resorted to this
What I don’t understand is if Rhadigan is so bad why do you watch with sound anyway? I don’t know about all you guys but when i watch a baseball game I could watch it just as easily without any sound and know exactly what was going on in the game. As a Ranger fan I know the difference between Borbon and Elvis so when Rhadigan fucks it up I don’t even bat an eye. If you need the PBP people to enjoy a game then you are most likely watching a bad team to begin with.
That was one thing Josh Lewin was great at during the Rangers mediocre years when the summers would just drag on and on was keeping the viewer engaged during those times when the team was playing bad. Now that we have turned around the on field product I can enjoy the game regardless of what the booth is telling me. If you absolutely must listen to something turn to radio.
Rhadigan has been at the gig for two weeks of the regular season now. yes I realize he had a handful of spring training games as well. From watching, and listening, to the telecasts so far what I have noticed is Rhads obviously watches his monitors a majority of the time. I can understand that given his history. I imagine with his duties on pre and post game shows he watched a majority of the games on monitors either in a studio or on set at the ballpark. Also his “interview” or audition for the job was likely done announcing a game that was broadcast on monitors. Thats what he is likely comfortable with at this point which leads to most of his problems.
Watching the broadcast when a ball is hit hes going off what the camera is showing and can thus get confused easily. Add in having to go from monitor to scorebook to media guide for little tidbits to talk about during the dead air and its a lot more difficult than it looks like from a outsiders prospective. Hell tonight you had the PBP crew for a national audience fucking up left and right. thats on a national network being broadcast to the entire country.
I completely understand the arguments about why did we switch to a PBP guy with zero professional experience before now. Especially considering we are coming off a WS appearance and our fanbase is obviously growing and new sponsors, along with a new tv deal, have gone into place. But to bitch and moan about Rhadigan a mere 2 weeks into the season is really pathetic IMO and makes you look like a sad individual.
A tad harsh, but overall I agree
Rhad hasn’t impressed me, but I’m an into the game guy, and expect Rhad to improve. If he’s like this in September, yeah I’m a bit more peeved, but it’s April.
As for tonight, ESPN screws the pooch from the start with 3 guys in the booth. Put Vin Scully, Harry Carry and Red Barber in the same booth and they’d suck.
I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubble gum.
by Tex Pantego on Apr 17, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I get off on calls
And Rhads isn’t satisfying me.
It does seem he puts more enthusiaism into opposing teams, which doesn’t bother me as it does others.. I just wish he did it for us some. heh.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
whatever
Who the fuck wants to sit around and watch a silent baseball game?
by Black Francis on Apr 18, 2011 3:23 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
This guy?

- I survived the 2011 Opening Weekend LSB Tailgate Party -
by Mike the Grate on Apr 28, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Gotta disagree with your calculations on this one, bigsteve
You are making the very common, and always ignorant, assumption that how you do something is paramount to how others do something.
I don’t listen to the game or absorb it how you do. You know what, I don’t want to, either.
If the Rangers presented to me a broadcast that was just the baseball game with no commentary, I would have no complaint… but they don’t do that. They present the game with a PBP announcer, and it is certainly an important part of the broadcast, regardless of your own personal opinions on the matter. I don’t think that the quality of that presentation is up to the standards that should exist for that broadcast, and voiced those opinions.
Sorry you find it sad, buddy.
Oh yeah… and your comment here was much more of a personal attack than any of the “bitching and moaning” that I expressed. You might want to take your own advice.
by benjihana on Apr 18, 2011 6:03 AM CDT up reply actions 18 recs
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What I don’t understand is if Rhadigan is so bad why do you watch with sound anyway? I don’t know about all you guys but when i watch a baseball game I could watch it just as easily without any sound and know exactly what was going on in the game.
This is truly dumb.
by octoberty on Apr 18, 2011 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh really?
So you are a big enough moron that you need someone telling you theres a fly ball to left field for the 2nd out of the inning? You need someone up there telling you who’s at bat? You can’t figure this stuff out on your own
Yes the mistakes are frustrating and make me do a “WTF” from time to time but it doesn’t take away from the action on the field.
If hes still making the same mistakes in August and September that he is now then that would be the better time to do any type of complaint campaign but seriously two weeks…..TWO WEEKS? It makes benji here sound like a little bitch IMO.
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So you are a big enough moron that you need someone telling you theres a fly ball to left field for the 2nd out of the inning? You need someone up there telling you who’s at bat? You can’t figure this stuff out on your own
You’re completely missing the point. And it’s mind-boggling that you don’t get it.
Not really
It’s actually pretty much par for the course
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 18, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
ninnyhammer
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
by Mike E on Apr 18, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Yup.
Benji is a little bitch for not accepting mediocrity and trying to improve his viewing experience. Makes tons of sense.
Putting the game on mute? What a fucking joke.
by behindthebag on Apr 19, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
For realz man...
I want the sound of the crowd chanting O’Day’s name, ball hitting the bat, and the crowds reactions to certain things.
by coolaid on Apr 18, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn - it is a dumb comment
People should just shut up and watch the game without sound? If the Rangers roll out a shitty position player we should ignore it and shut up too? Just look away from his ABs?
Look – folks have identified specific places where Rhads can improve. No more pseudo coloquialisms and do his homework on players and the rules. The only thing where I think he might lack is cadence and figuring out what the hell’s going on in a timely manner. I have a good idea if something is HR, foul ball or hit right off the bat (is that where that term comes from?). That takes years and his lack of that ability detracts from things. It’s way more exciting to hearing someone say “lined up the middle, could be a hit BUT NO Elvis is there to make the play” instead of “grounded to the shortstop whoeverthefuckthatis.”
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
Well Done
Rhadigan lucked into this scenario. He’s okay for his old post. But, I hope the complaints helps us find a better replacement. We went to a World Series, why do we need a guy with zero experience?
"Every noble work is at first impossible."
Appreciate the feedback, both positive and negative
Thanks to all those with the kind words.
I understand a few of the criticisms… but it seems that a bit of you spent more time getting riled up over the fact that I’m riled up (and were quite wordy with why you thought we, who think this is necessary, were ridiculous) than I actually did voicing my opinion. Kind of one of those “pot calling the kettle black” situations, no?
To the apologists… being bad at one’s job, particularly such a high profile job, is not something that should be tolerated. I certainly hope that when you take a job, you don’t expect your employer to just forgive your consistent, and glaring, mistakes during your tenure.
We are not talking about a junior learning from a sales associate down at your bank branch – we are talking about the lead voice on a network for the defending American League champions. It seems that you guys forget that this is the same network that recently pre-funded the Texas Rangers bank account on a very lucrative television deal. This is a major position, and hence requires someone who is appropriate for the job.
There is absolutely no excuse for someone in Rhadigan’s position to not be aware of the players that are on the field or the situations he is seeing and verbalizing for us. Announcing a game goes beyond the three hours in the booth – it involves homework and study of your team, and the other team’s roster. Pre-game preparation, interviews, understanding of why the team has a lineup in a particular order or anything else relevant to the team. This is his JOB, not his HOBBY, and the rampant amount of apologists who feel that no experience, and no improvement in a fairly significant amount of time (I’m sorry, but there has been no improvement in his tenure here – either he is not being adequately criticized and coached, which is quite possible, or he is just clearly not improving) is okay when you are engaging in your PROFESSION is ludicrous to me. If his issues are with guidance, then the front office and the communications team are to blame. If he has been coached and is not improving on his own, then he is just clearly an inadequate fit for the position. Either way, there exists a problem.
Quite honestly, I would have zero interest working alongside some of the commenters on this post who have such a low standard for what is deemed acceptable in a position of employment.
Its two fucking weeks into the season dude thats the problem
If you want to write this and send it in in August and hes still making the same mistakes I doubt you have any “apologists” at all. But Its not even Easter yet and you want to run the guy out of town.
As has been said….yes we all agree hiring a guy with zero experience coming off our first WS appearance was a horrible mistake. But whats done is done and you cant change that now. Now you have to work with whats here and to make a conclusion two fucking weeks into the season is stupid.
IMO Rhads has improved. Not by a ton but from his first ST broadcasts to now there has been improvement. But its going to take time. Lucky for all of us we have a really good team on the field so the PBP man isn’t as important. He isn’t tasked with trying to keep viewers entertained when its a 6-2 deficit in the 4th inning like in years past. Get off your fucking high horse and give the guy a little time before determining hes the worst announcer out there.
So you can tell me that you believe it is acceptable to confuse players?
Because that hasn’t improved.
And you would also tell me that you feel like he does game adequate game preparation?
You don’t “improve” in these areas – you either do it or you don’t.
xx
Lucky for all of us we have a really good team on the field so the PBP man isn’t as important.
wait, WHAT?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 18, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Why did you ignore benjihana's post above to your post and come down and complain again?
Get over yourself
bigsteve don't be carin'
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
My biggest complaint
is that Rhadigan actively makes the whole experience worse. I don’t want to mute the broadcast, I like hearing the sounds of the game (crack of the bat, the crowd, etc), and so I am forced into hearing Rhadigan. TAG has always been a kind of reluctant announcer (though I think Josh did a great job of engaging him and getting him involved), but with Rhadigan he never tries to get TAG involved, and really depends upon TAG to save him. There is insane amounts of dead air, EVEN WHILE STUFF IS HAPPENING ON THE FIELD. I shouldn’t have 40+ seconds of time where none of the pitches are mentioned.
I wish they would just simulcast Nadel’s audio feed on the TV channel.
Exactly.
I want to hear the game. I like hearing it with a good PBP announcer, but I definitely don’t want it to be silent, and Rhadigan makes me consider making it silent. Syncing the radio and the TV doesn’t always work out well for a variety of reasons, and if I watch an opposing broadcast I get to hear someone rooting against the Rangers. Fine pickle you’ve put me in, Nolan Ryan. You have lessened my enjoyment of Rangers baseball, be it not being able to hear the game, being annoyed when I do, or having to go through a hassle that puts me on delay to avoid the annoyance and still get the sound. Even if it’s only a slight loss of enjoyment, any loss for an inexplicable reason is bad.
by philkid3 on Apr 18, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
There is no way I am muting the game
Listening to the game is part of the enjoyment. I also don’t want to listen to the radio and watch the tv because I am constantly pausing and rewinding. I don’t think it is too much to ask to get a PBP guy that doesn’t make me enjoy the game less. I liked listening to the national guys suck some Yankee wang last night more than I do our booth during a regular game…. and it sucks that I feel that way..
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
by Texas Jihad on Apr 18, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
These are few and far between for you
but you get a rec for nailing it right on.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
on a side note... last week, i sent Jeff Wilson a tweet about his in-game tweeting
i tried to be nice as possible and encouraged him to dig a little deeper with his in-game tweets. give us something that we don’t see (presumably b/c he’s there but also b/c he writes about the team). i don’t really want PBP tweeting; there’s never a time when someone can read tweets but doesn’t have access to PBP in some shape, form or fashion. i do think he’s tried a lot harder and done a lot better. twitter can be a really cool tool for enhancing your “viewing” experience, but it can also be a beating reading tweets from 4-5 guys with a big bag of nothing that default to one dimensional PBP.
This is why I try to give you guys something different
I know you’re all following Andro, Newberg, Grant, Durrett, etc so I don’t need to give you play by play stuff. Sure, I’ll give you the lineups or what color we’re wearing the next day but I don’t want to be the 7th person to Tweet about who’s warming up in the bullpen. Last night’s ESPN game was an exception (sorry for the complaining I did but I’m not sorry for the Lady Gaga egg photo I posted) and I find the tweets that a lot of you send me very entertaining. So keep em comin
hey
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Apr 18, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol.
I wanted to comment to him earlier to but didn’t know what to say.
Well done.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Going Back To Josh
I got tired of josh, at least now I can watch the game. Do you forget Josh’s little man complex. I think Tom G. got tired of Josh on the broadcasts.
Josh was good when the team was bad but he takes away from the pleasure of the game. I’m not saying John Rhadigan is the long term answer, but it is better than listening to Josh.
Is 54 your age?
If so, your post makes sense.
by lost in space on Apr 18, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
funny how that's usually the case.
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
If hating Rhads is wrong I don't want to be right.
56
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
by TheDutchOven on Apr 18, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Old people and/or people who really like Norm Hitzges
in my experience are big Lewin haters
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
by Texas Jihad on Apr 19, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Does Norm hate Josh?
And is it impossible to like BOTH Norm AND Josh? Because I thought I did, but maybe I’m just confused.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 19, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
The Lewin haters are invariably a little on the older side L.i.S.
They’re much more likely to throw out a hip then actually be called “hip”. MUCH MORE LIKELY.
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
If hating Rhads is wrong I don't want to be right.
So much fail
-- Micah
"I like this show… boy, it’s got a lot of weiners in it." -- benmor78 on 4.13.11
by The Best Micah on Apr 18, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
Are you nuts?
Josh takes away the pleasure of the game.. pfft. If you didn’t like him for his Seinfeld references and Nerd Alerts then fine.. but lets get real here. He was very knowledgeable about baseball and extremely prepared for games. His calls for the Rangers big plays were some of the best things in the world and added a tremendous amount to the broadcast.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
by Mike E on Apr 18, 2011 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
"Do you forget. . ."
What, you think we just decided we liked him after he left? You must be new here.
Also, what you just said is wrong.
by philkid3 on Apr 19, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I will say that one positive thing has come out of the Rhadigan debacle for me
After so many years of watching the games on TV, I had forgotten the simple pleasure of listening to a game from start to finish on the radio with no pictures. I know we didn’t have Rhadigan last night, but I still spent an extremely enjoyable evening sitting out on the patio with a drink, a scorecard, and Eric Nadel on my ipod. Hell, even Dave Barnett is sounding competent this year in comparison. I’m not a fan of synching the radio and the TV for several reasons, but I definitely see myself turning off the TV and listening to a lot more games on the radio until Rhadigan is out.
there's a free scorecard app for iShit that's pretty good.
Kforce or something. I used it a lot last season.
by Black Francis on Apr 18, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
pluS for iShit
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
yeah those are nice moments
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
MLB.tv has this "audio overlay" option, which doesn't work when I click it.
It’s a cocktease.
It includes just the sounds of the game.
I can agree with this
It’s a totally relaxing thing to listen to an entire game on radio…then it gets all exciting like.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Having listened to a few more games on radio...
…I think Barnett actually is getting better, and it’s not just by comparison to Rhadigan.
I hope I’m right about that.
That said, baseball on radio is one of life’s simple pleasures. Nadel makes it that much better.
by Stormwalker on Apr 24, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I was never a huge Lewin fan
I agree with some of the statements about him being a great announcer for a bad team. However, Rhadigan isn’t in the same league as Lewin. Lewin is a pro, he is prepared, he knows his shit, he rarely fucks up(always catches himself when he does) and he admits to being a nerd. It took Lewin a while, but he grew on me. Nadel is the voice of this team. Unfortunately, T.V. kills a lot of the greatness that is Nadel. I know it aint gonna happen and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I want Josh back(both of them).
by chalktalk on Apr 18, 2011 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
I'd rather have Barnett than Rhadigan
that says something
by We're_Texas on Apr 18, 2011 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Meh
I didn’t have a huge problem with Barnett as TV fill-in. He’s no Lewin (who is?) but he’s competent. The only problem there though was he doesn’t like to talk about things much other than the play going on.. may just be used to radio though.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Glad I wasn't the only one.
I enjoy John Rhadigan as a pre and post game show on camera broadcaster. I know he is well liked in the community, and is a well respected journalist. However, the broadcast is simply flat. Enthusiasm seems forced and almost contrived to a point. It is a very flat broadcast. There is no “rollercoaster” effect to his calls. It may not be fair to compare Rhadigan to Eric Nadel, but they are both the lead broadcasters of their respective media. With Nadel, you get a very articulate, descriptive perspective on the game, and he ramps up when he has to. Perhaps this is where Nadel’s vast baseball knowledge shines through, as a flyball to left and a high fly ball headed deep to left field are entirely different animals, and the inflection is entirely different. With Nadel, I have a very good idea as to what is happening at all times, and I can see the game through his words.
Now, put Rhadigan on the radio broadcast. Would we ever know what was going on? A guy could very conceivably be rounding second on a homerun until we knew the ball was gone. I don’t need fancy catch-phrases, or blatant, shamless home-team homers. What I want is somebody who can add to the broadcast, rather than take away from it. I know Josh Lewin was abrasive to some, and I can see why. However, Lewin had vast knowledge about the game. His extemporaneous style kept him from over duplicating common baseball phrases, and you might hear a term like “two for the price of one” perhaps once a season, and that phrase would go back on the shelf. It would not be used 6 times in a game against one opponent.
Some people are blessed with “it” for lack of a better term. Most lead broadcasters have a larger than life persona that makes one feel like if that lead broadcaster were available, they would call a man’s greatest moment. With Rhads, I feel like it would be let down. Dave Barnett isn’t perfect. However, I think a switch to him at lead broadcaster would allow the Rangers to let Rhadigan to go gracefully into the night on account of “John Rhadigan has decided to take a different role on Rangers broadcasts.” Its not like Rhadigan would go anywhere. Rick Renner better not be very comfortable on his seat. Rhads would eat that spot for breakfast. I don’t know if thats more of an indictment of Renner, or if that is a pat on the back for Rhadigan.
John Rhadigan-You are a fine man. I have long enjoyed your work. However, play-by-play just isn’t your strong suit. I have no doubt that I would be a lousy accountant, lawyer, or doctor. Getting the endorsement of the president of the company doesn’t make me any more qualified, it just gives me the opportunity and the title. Point is, put Rhads back where he belongs-a valuable member of the Texas Rangers television broadcast. But please, no more PBP. My grandparents are new baseball fans, and I don’t want them to regress!
by stormdude3603 on Apr 19, 2011 1:48 AM CDT reply actions 8 recs
He's around I'm sure checking what folks are saying
And I’m sure it’s being conveyed in some way or another. Hopefully in a delicate since I’d hate to see him a Nolan Ryan headlock. In fact I’m sure Nolan’s aware of what this little niche of Rangers fandom are saying in some manner.
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
Actually, if any demographic would enjoy him,
it would certainly be grandparents.
by River Fenix on Apr 19, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Thank You
Thanks for the compliment on my impromptu write up. I am not out to get anybody, but I am interested in keeping the common fan as interested as possible in the Rangers. If there is any detraction from my favorite team, I will let my voice be heard, as will everybody else. We owe it to the Rangers to let our voices be heard, as that is what will necessitate change. If John Rhadigan were a starting right fielder with an with an average of .081, that starting right fielder would soon find alternative scenery. Not that Rhads has any effect on the outcome of the game, but poor performances anywhere on the ballclub should be noted and dealt with. Perhaps if we kept stats on terminology, dead air, and spoken errors, it would be easier to quantify. Hopefully the team hears this dull roar, and is considering making a change at some time. I really hate watching the game on TV and feeling truly uncomfortable.
by stormdude3603 on Apr 20, 2011 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions
one of the things that bothers me most
other than what is already mentioned here is the fact that he labels practically EVERY ball hit as being ‘sliced.’ Sorry John, just because the ball was hit into play doesn’t mean it was sliced.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
What do people think will happen as a result?
Are there PBP guys out there that the Rangers can snap up? Seems like the easiest solution would be to promote Dave Barnett. Is that what people want? I listened to Barnett the other day and though he isn’t exactly great on radio, I’m going to say that he would be better than Rhadigan on PBP. He might be boring but he won’t get in the way of the game, which does seem to be an issue with Rhadigan.
I won’t call myself a Rhadigan apologist (I gave him an F) but I have said that people seem to be nitpicking way too much and I think calling for his head less than a month into the season seems like an overreaction. I wouldn’t be opposed to a change but I’m also not convinced that Rhadigan can’t get markedly better after only a few short months. We’ll see (most likely because I doubt he gets moved until July).
The other thing I refuse to agree with
is that he ruins the game. Barnett actually does ruin the game because I can’t see what’s going on and often I have to wait 10 seconds to understand it. I don’t need that kind of help with TV. I’m sure Rhadigan could help out the moment if he was a good PBP but it’s not essential to my enjoyment.
He doesn't ruin the game, but he sure is annoying.
No one likes being annoyed.
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
you actually think that's a possibility?
him being moved…
i don’t think there is any way, even with complaints or whatever, that a change is coming this year in the booth…
the ONLY thing, maybe, is more Mac in the booth, which i would love…
Well, I did when I wrote the post
but you’re right. REgardless fo the bitching, I can’t really imagine him getting shitcanned before the season’s up.
Interesting about Mac but I don’t know why that would be the case or why it would help. Seems odd that when the complaint is that nobody is calling the game, we would put in another color guy who will decrease the chances even more of any play by play.
well, when Mac is in the both
TAG becomes more active in the conversation. It’s crickets with Rhadigan and TAG in the booth. That’s one of the things that made Lewin so good, is that he brought out the best in TAG.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Mac is pretty bad in my opinion
You could make a drinking game out of how many times he says “absolutely.”
yeah man he always talks like that
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Absolutely
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
It bugs me how he talks
‘It really does’ or some variety he says all the time before he continues on.
But Mac’s awesome and at least knows some things. I’m for him as the replacement to TAG whenever he leaves, as someone mentioned earlier, but not sure about PBP.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Josh Lewin is available.
I heard he’s good.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
by Mike E on Apr 20, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
I'll break the good news this morning...
RangersRadioBD Bryan Dolgin
I will be on Rangers game broadcast for play-by-play/color w/ Eric Nadel tonight. Dave Barnett is on TV. John Rhadigan has night off.
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
by texasrfan on Apr 20, 2011 9:10 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
While Dolgin isn't perfect...
and a bit repetitive at times (“looked at for a…”). I think this is an uptick. However I’ll be at the game so I won’t get to hear it…
by Ranger miker on Apr 20, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
What's he need the night off for?
I really just want Lewin so anyone is gonna p me off. But I was fine with Barnett on TV last season and it at least didn’t kill me to hear him.
Barnett will almost certainly stay the PBP guy though for years to come if he gets it this season at all.
It’s hard letting go.. =/
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
No, LSB has no pull at all.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
It was everyone
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
May be a solitary voice, but oh how it echoes!
Right on point. Listen up management. The masses are speaking. While you’re revamping the TV broadcast, get rid of the other distractions (Jim Knox and Emily Jones make me run for the mute button – they are USELESS), while you are replacing Rhad.
I wish I could get the radio reception so I could sync with video.
Emily and Knox are fine.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I for one, hope Dave Barnett gets more TV time.
Excellent broadcast tonight, regardless of the outcome of the game.
Maybe move Rhadigan to radio, that way Nadel can take him under his wings and teach him a thing or two. And he doesn’t lose his job.
by TooLegitToQuit on Apr 21, 2011 12:28 AM CDT reply actions
Move him back to the pre or post-game shows
that way he’s back where he’s good, and he doesn’t lose his job.
Yes.
Make no mistake, I don’t want the guy to get fired and I hope nobody is suggesting that. The Rangers just kinda put him in a position to fail, that’s not his fault.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Sadly, I think I found an example of why the Rangers made this move
I was at the game with my Parents last night, they are both in their late 50’s/early 60’s.
They were going on and on about how much they liked “the new guy doing the TV” and how much they couldn’t stand “that crazy guy from last year.”
They are pretty much the tyipcal casual fan — they watch maybe a game or 2 a week, go to a handful a year.
The entire conversation made me sad.
I know a lot of fans of other teams that loved Lewin also
would mention us in conversations of best broadcasters.
I don’t like the team being made fun of in any way. And unfortunately we won’t get that respect anymore and it will probably go in the other direction with Rhadigan.
What drives me ape-shit crazy also is his cowboy stereotype shit.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
My emailed letter.
To whom it may concern,
Last year’s run to the World Series was the most magical time I can remember as a sport’s fan. Many of the great moments of the regular season, such as Nelson Cruz’s walk-off home run, Josh Hamilton going from second to home on an infield single, and amazing plays by Elvis Andrus are going to be memories I keep for the rest of my life. Adding to the magic of these moments were some great play by play calls by Josh Lewin, who you as an organization decided not to have back this year. I can’t say I agreed with that decision, but I understood the team wanting to go in a new direction.
Originally the general feeling in the Rangers fan community would be, that because whoever was chosen would be a different vibe than what Lewin brought to the game, the fans should give the person time to make a good impression, and to “give him a chance”. Unfortunately, this was made brutally impossible by John Rhadigan. Rhadigan, I’m sure, is a very nice guy, and although I’m not in the market to see it, by all accounts was very good at his position doing pre and post-game shows. However, he is completely over his head as a play by play broadcaster.
He constantly gets the names of players wrong, he has no idea how to judge a ball, and he brings no excitement when the Rangers are doing well. In particular, in Detroit, he might as well have been the Tigers announcer, because the only time he got excited was when Detroit was doing well. Perhaps the worst effect of the change in announcing is the fact that Tom Grieve has gone from being one of the better color commentators in the league and has completely regressed. He flat out goes long pauses without talking, where as with Lewin, he was always engaged in the game, giving tidbits and insights from his years in the field and in the front office. You’d think, from listening to the game, that there are in fact two new announcers because the change has been so remarkable.
However, there was a change for the better. Recently, when Dave Barnett filled in for Rhadigan, the game became tolerable to listen to again. I’m not a huge fan of Barnett on the radio, although some of that may be working alongside a living legend like Eric Nadel and being compared to him, but on TV, Barnett brought energy back to the broadcast, he had background knowledge and was prepared for the game, which was a welcome change, and even bigger, TAG sounded like the man Rangers fans have come to love. Barnett seems far more suited for Television, and it was easily a massive improvement over the usual game, even in a tough Rangers loss. Similarly, in my time listening to the game on the radio while I was walking my dog, Delgan sounded refreshing on the radio broadcast and shwoed a lot of potential as someone who could do that full time.
The Rangers are the defending AL Champions, one of the most exciting teams in baseball in a major media market, and they deserve a voice of the franchise that reflects that. Hiring someone with no experience was one of the few major missteps this franchise has made, and I would love to see it rectified as soon as possible. It doesn’t have to be bringing in a new person, as last night, both the television and radio broadcasts were just fine. Rhadigan seems like a great anchor for a pre and post-game show, and perhaps that is where he belongs.
Thank you for your time,
*********
by vfn on Apr 21, 2011 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
yep
I agree with this. I actually enjoyed Barnett on the broadcast, which is really saying something. Perhaps it tells us how bad Rhadigan is, and how good Lewin is, as last year I couldn’t stand it when Barnett would sub in for Lewin in the booth.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Well written, including your responses to comments...
and appreciated.
I heard Rhads once, and that was enough – and I’ve always been a fan of his. From his struggle to break-in under Scott Murray and establish a niche, to the Stars post-games with Luddy, I’ve wished him well.
I get the interest in minimalist PBP like Scully and Pat Summerall. It’s just not what I want to hear.
When he talked about the Stars during the game a few days ago
it was crazy. He really knew his stuff. Unforuntately he isn’t like that with baseball or the Rangers.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Did you get a useful response to your email?
I really wanted to give him a chance, but I think we are seeing the peter principle here.
I know that its green
peter pan?
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Not sure if I know the Peter principle
Herbie acknowledged receipt, haven’t heard of any sort of response… don’t know if I should expect one…
The Peter Principle states that people within an organization rise to the level of their incompetence.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 23, 2011 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
At some point, it really should be named the Norv Turner Principle
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
josh vs john
It wasn’t the Seinfeld references, but 30 Rock will replace it has the best all time comedy until something else on NBC comes along. It was his gloating in the 2nd or 3rd inning that killed me (little man complex). Tom would just roll his eyes; then the Rangers would give the lead up in the 6,7 or 9th inning. I thought the announcer for R.R was suppose to get the gig? The best face saving act they (Rangers) can do is add a 3rd member of the both, but I don’t know how much that will help. I just don’t believe J. Lewin is coming back & everyone needs to get over it. Does anybody notice he has a lisp on the radio?
Surely Rhadigan is studying his tapes & working on his delivery
Incoherent guy is incoherent.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 22, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The John Rhadigan Era
I must confess of my own humble opinioon that Mr. Rhadigan is an unfortunate down-grade in the Texas Rangers tele-cast department. Though I was not a big fan, I do fel Josh Lewin is better than John Rhadigan in terms of actual professionalism and performance. Had it not been for Tom Greive still providing color commentating I do not think I could watch Rangers television broadcasting at all these days. I am astounded that with all the upgrades and improved business strategy for the Texas Rangers “brand” with the Ryan group, I am literally shocked by the decision and execution of picking John Rhadigan as the play by play announcer; didn’t they listen to this guy’s audition tapes?
Richard the Raider
by Raider in Dallas on Apr 22, 2011 5:06 PM CDT reply actions
The ones from 2001?
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Even my wife calls out Rhadigan:
she just asked me, if someone gets on base, and then is wiped out on a double play, then it’s not a 1-2-3 inning, right? Cuz that bozo on TV just said it was.
by Ranger miker on Apr 24, 2011 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
awesome
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
by TheDutchOven on Apr 24, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
my wife asked me
why Rhadigan says “the side is retired” after every half inning. She even noticed that it’s ridiculous and that he falls back on these phrases because he has no real info to add.
I heard highlights of Saturday’s SF game on FOX, and the sound of Lewin’s voice made me sad. He is light years beyond anything Rhadigan could even dream of being.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I've met Rhadigan
he’s a nice guy, but he’s terrible at PBP.
Baseball players routines: Spit, Chew, Curse, repeat.
Also
very well written letter Benji
Baseball players routines: Spit, Chew, Curse, repeat.
by Gay For Feliz on Apr 25, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
np
Baseball players routines: Spit, Chew, Curse, repeat.
by Gay For Feliz on Apr 29, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
The course of action is clear . . .
The message has been stated eloquently and delivered over and over. Somebody in the front office needs to listen and act accordingly. Otherwise the next step is an organized campaign to contact the advertisers to let them know we are tuning the broadcast out.
THis
is how to really get their attention
If the Ranger fans can organize a petition/site and send that list/info to all the advertisers paying money to muted … then the Rangers would have no choice but to listen to criticism … obviously Rhads has friends in high places, but nobody talks louder than money
Lets do it CO.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
His comment over the weekend about the attendance
was painful. “what did you say TAG, 46K, well it was 45,769 so you only missed it by 31”
I had to listen to it three times to try to make sense of it
I caught that too...
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
Holy shit, that is some proper fail.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I miss Lewin
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Apr 25, 2011 4:28 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
Next time you hear a Rhadigan nugget of wisdom...
Feel free to submit it:
by martyarf on Apr 27, 2011 9:30 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This is the most green I have seen in a thread
since the sale was completed. I don’t think its a coincidence that the topic of discussion is what needs to be done about improving the TV broadcast. It’s one of the only topics 90% of us can actually agree upon. Good post, Benji.
Inside Scoop
Here’s how he got the job, Nolan Ryan really liked Rhadigan. Nolan Ryan hated Josh Lewin (That is fact not opinion and everyone in the truck hated to work with Josh, he was and still is a real prick). Rangers offered the job to Eric Nadel, who turned it down, they tried some guys out (Steve Busby, Kevin Eschenfelder, etc), until Ryan suggested Rhadigan. That is how he got the job. I believe that Rhadigan will get better over time. I, for one couldn’t stand Lewin’s Seinfeld references and non-funny jokes and the fact that numerous times he would be in a bad mood cause the game would go long and he would miss his band’s gig and he let his feelings bleed over into the broadcast, not professional at all. And no one liked working with him including Grieve and the FSN producers and executive producer. The best in team play by play combo is Len Casper and Bob Brenley and its not even close.
by RangersFanPlano on Apr 27, 2011 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
Cool story bro.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 27, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oh, and the fact that you think Lewin's jokes were unfunny pretty much means you can DIAF as far as I'm concerned.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 27, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
When did Lewin get pissed about missing his band's gig?
I never got that impression from him.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"I’d perform oral sex on Greg Oden before I’d hit that."- Adam J. Morris about Ke$ha, 4/17/2011.
Me either.
I have not once thought Lewin was in a bad mood cause the game was going too long. He didn’t even mention his band too often, and the times he did it wasn’t anything that like being upset over missing something.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
RE:Inside Scoop
seanathan: I have only one comment, because I was emailed the link to this blog and chose to register and post what I know, so you guys can be well informed of all the details before you go on your rant. Also I failed to mention, but Rhadigan has a 3-year deal, so that plays a factor. Listen,I was fooled too and thought Lewin and “TAG” were good until I got introduced the MLB Extra Inning package on DirectTV, and when I could listen to all the other pxp teams,it was clear that Lewin & TAG were one of the worst in the business and it wasnt even close. The fact is that Rhads is new and not very good right now, but let’s not forget who he has to work with TAG, whom is one of the worst color guys in the game.(that is well-known among tv executives).
by RangersFanPlano on Apr 27, 2011 5:23 PM CDT reply actions
Ok, I'll take your inside info at face value
However, I have mlb.tv and also listen to a lot of other broadcasts, Josh & TAG are nowhere near the bottom of the heap in calling games. Quite the opposite actually.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Cool story bro.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 27, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I had MLB.TV
and that opened my eyes up to how good Lewin and TAG were together compared to most of the other pxp/color combos around the league. So, your first hand info involves watching MLB Extra Innings? You’re a VIP all the way.
btw…Rhadigan is so bad he makes TAG sound like VIn Scully.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Apr 27, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah. I've heard many fans of other teams compliment how good Lewin/TAG were
compared to most others. I’m not sure I’ve heard a consistent outcry against them other than from Astros fans.. but those guys are just plain nuts..
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
You stole that line from my twitter.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"I’d perform oral sex on Greg Oden before I’d hit that."- Adam J. Morris about Ke$ha, 4/17/2011.
the last one
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Hey! Guess what!
I had Extra innings for years, too.
My word cancels out your word, then. Let’s go to the LSB masses to break the tie.
LSB masses?
I'm going to go with Philkid on this one.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"I’d perform oral sex on Greg Oden before I’d hit that."- Adam J. Morris about Ke$ha, 4/17/2011.
Careful with that last line, them's stabbing words there
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
The truck, the producer and everyone else on your list who doesn't like Josh
Needs to F*ing realize that they are not the customers in this situation … we are. The fact that they didn’t like working with him and wanted him out, just makes me more bitter and more motivated to let their sponsors know how much I think of their decision-making process.
This industry and many others are littered with guys who are not easy to work with and who battle with the team behind the scenes. But THAT’S NOT THE POINT. I love Nolan, but he doesn’t listen to the games, and he’s not the customer that is receiving the garbage that Rhadigan puts out.
This whole line of thinking is just absurd and does little besides further embitter me towards the decision they made.
F* THE TRUCK!
Don't believe for a second that everyone that the RFP douchetard says hated Lewin actually hated him.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 28, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
re:mlb.TV
NothingG, watching MLB extra innings opened my eyes on how bad Lewin and TAG, were, it had nothing to do with the inside info that I have, which is all true. I don’t care if you don’t believe me cause you are just an internet troll,but I’m just stating all the facts so you kids have all the info. Let me guess you guys love it when TAG thanks the cookie lady for a full half inning while Josh makes “the call” on a Nelly Cruz home run, while live tweeting and making an obsecure Seinfeld reference, while missing the clinching AL West game cause he is doing a Charger preseason game. lol…
by RangersFanPlano on Apr 28, 2011 12:08 AM CDT reply actions
You calling anyone else a "troll" is rich.
You’re a dumbass motherfucker who likes to use a screenname to stir shit, and pretend to be someone important. Have fun with that.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 28, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Josh called the clinching AL West game
Also, use the reply button if you are going to troll.
by seanathan on Apr 28, 2011 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Yeah.. this guy is just here to ruin the integrity of the thread
Josh missing it had been a worry of mine for years though.. though I didn’t think it’d be early enough to be preseason heh. But of course that’s only cause he’s so good and that’s who I want to hear call it.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Yeah, NothinG, you troll you.
I’m wondering if RFP here thinks NothinG is actually a troll, hopes to get a rise out of him by calling him a troll because he himself is a troll, or if he just doesn’t know what a troll is.
Either way, this has become entertaining. I hope he doesn’t figure out what a reply button is.
NothinG is not a troll, I've met him.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Rodney is not the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man, I've met him.
"you are now the chris nolan of LSB posters." -TideNtexas 4/21/11
stop replying like this
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
k scott bailey
Who is that douche bag looking man/woman in your avatar? I’m not someone important just someone who knows a lot more then you do about this situation, son. You are irrelevant, and always will be, kid. Don’t respond unless you can bring something to the table. Everything I have stated is true, whether you or your forehead chose to believe me I really don’t give a fuck.
by RangersFanPlano on Apr 28, 2011 2:09 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
You are blind, deaf, dumb, and probably ugly.
I don’t think you have any inside information. Everything you’ve said can be found on sites like unfairpark and a couple others. Let’s say you did have some inside knowledge, though. It amounts to a pile of shit because it’s the opinion of the people that counts. Lewin and Grieve were a good broadcast team. Maybe they got along and maybe they didn’t. I don’t give a fuck whether or not they were best friends. I don’t care if the people in the truck liked him. Almost all of us liked him, and in total we spend trillions of hours every season watching Rangers games.
Even though you’re a troll, I’m not going to sit here and let you call Tom Grieve bad at his job. The only thing he does that annoys me is the cookie lady thing, but hey, as far as I’m concerned that’s something that can be overlooked. He’s been a first round draft pick, an MLB player, a scouting director, a General Manager, and an actor in a Ramones video. He is awesome.
Anyway, so the organization decides to change direction. Okay. Just don’t hire someone who has nothing more than studio experience. This guy had never called a game in his life until spring training. Awful hire, and we who spend hours and hours of our lives week in and week out have to suffer for it.
Fucker.
And Brenley is a hack broadcaster at best.
by Black Francis on Apr 28, 2011 3:33 AM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
"He’s been a first round draft pick, an MLB player, a scouting director, a General Manager, and an actor in a Ramones video."
And the father of an MLB player, Rookie of the Year, and total bust.
I will admit I’m not a big fan of Tag’s, at least not the way most of LSB is, but he has a wealth of experience that he can draw on. You know who got him to draw on that experience? I’ll give you one guess.
Anyway, yes, this:
Lewin and Grieve were a good broadcast team. Maybe they got along and maybe they didn’t. I don’t give a fuck whether or not they were best friends. I don’t care if the people in the truck liked him.
By the way, because this was back when the only time I saw the Rangers on TV was when they played Seattle. . .
How did TAG handle calling Ben Grieve games?
no different
you wouldn’t had even known, if you didn’t know.. heh.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
I definitely believe that you know someone who knows something related to the broadcasts...
but you’ve decided to go all 14 year old Internet douche on everyone on here and think Bob Brenly does a good job so we at least know that while your information might paint one side of a untold story, your opinion is worthless.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 28, 2011 3:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Why do you believe that?
Just wondering.. not saying I don’t. I just have no reason to either. Especially when he felt the need to point out he didn’t like him either, along with everyone else (mentioning reasons that didn’t even take place).. and that he sucked along with his partner.
Then he starts this thing where he’s acting like he’s some wise man who should be respected, while at the same time showing that he’s immature.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
You will never know how much your biting criticism has wounded me.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 28, 2011 6:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't Rhads live in Plano?
I knew it.
GET HIS ASS, GUYS!!!!
(rabble, rabble, rabble…..)
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Apr 28, 2011 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions
RE: RangersFanPlano
While I appreciate any inside information someone can tell me…unless it’s illegal ;-) I don’t think your opinions hold much water here, since you are just some new random troll. At least let us get to know you before we come to the ultimate conclusion that you are an ill informed douche bag. Although I do think it’s funny that you came in here calling everyone son and kid as if you were Mr. Big Dick himself, I don’t think it will go over very well. And please use the GOD DAMN REPLY BUTTON.
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
by Texas Jihad on Apr 28, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
gosh
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
josh
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
mosh

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by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 28, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Daniel Tosh.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"I’d perform oral sex on Greg Oden before I’d hit that."- Adam J. Morris about Ke$ha, 4/17/2011.
Pay Attention, Slosh!

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 28, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Pre-frosh

"you are now the chris nolan of LSB posters." -TideNtexas 4/21/11
by crazy86er on Apr 28, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know someone from there lol
Don't play F A G! Do not play F A G! Don't- (BLAST F). OH MY GOD WHAT ARE YOU (BLAST A) DOING?! I SAID NOT TO (BLAST G)!
by DFWTrojanTuba on Apr 28, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
wow. winner.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
I am officially LSB awesome now.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 28, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh great, so you have inside info on the Rangers?
Dirkatron would like to know, “WHY THE FUCK DID TX DRAFT MIKE FUCKING OLT??!!”
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
on the bright side...
at least we are always aware of every single hitting streak each batter is on… after every pitch
You would think an expert on MLB broadcasters like RangersFanPlano would know that the Cubs PBP man's name is Len Kaspar, not Len Casper
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
He likes to use K instead of C for a little hidden racism
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
by Texas Jihad on Apr 28, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought he was just taking a subtle jab at C. Scott bailey
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
It's like the Koffee Kup Kafe in Hico
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
RE: RangersFanPlano
I too have inside sources that have told me about the sour relationships with Lewin, and you got it slightly wrong. It wasn’t the people in the truck that hated him, it was the actual truck. It went Christine all over his ass and chased him out of town. And as Nolan always says, “If a truck can’t trust you, who can?”
P.S.-The reply button is for bitches
by TequilaMockingbird on Apr 28, 2011 6:09 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
That definitely changes my feelings on the situation.
I think I’ll have to embrace Rhadigan if The Truck’s given him its approval.
The Truckis the arbiter of all that is good and holy
be plentiful in your praise, and his blessings with flourish the Rangers with wins.
by TequilaMockingbird on Apr 29, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Josh Lewin is on TV right now!!!!!!!
OMG, I miss his voice so much!!!! Has he made his “call” yet? lol at the morons from lonestar baseball that think Lewin is the next Bob Costas…And lol at the idiots that actually think the extreme homer team of Lewin and “TAG” are better then Kasper and Brenley or any other broadcast team in MLB. You losers need to start watching more then just Ranger games…I can confirm that Nolan Ryan and the truck ran Lewin out of town…that is why Ryan only signed Lewin to a 1-year deal after 2009, think about it….
by RangersFanPlano on Apr 30, 2011 2:39 PM CDT reply actions
You can confirm it?
Well confirm it or shut the fuck up and stop trolling here. And you call us losers…it’s you who needs to find something better to do.
I do watch more “then” just Rangers games. Most people here are bigger baseball junkies than I am, so I will value my opinion and theirs way above yours and even Nolan Ryan’s. He fucked this one up. Listening to Rhadigan is about as interesting as watching wind erosion.
by Black Francis on Apr 30, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can confirm that RFP has the IQ of a mentally deficient baboon.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 30, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
RFP: If Lewin is so terrible
why is he still doing Chargers games and Fox baseball broadcasts?

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