The Centerfield Situation
With the Rangers in first place (albeit barely) in mid-June, and likely to be in the playoff hunt all season, we naturally are going to start looking at what the problem areas are on the team and what can be done to shore them up. The bullpen has been the big area of concern, and of course, if you could find a pitcher who you'd feel comfortable starting twice in a 7 game series, you'd probably want the Rangers to try to get in on that.
The position players, however, seem fairly well set. There are eight spots where you feel like the Rangers are in pretty good shape, and you're comfortable going to battle in October with who you've got.
And then there's one big question mark...centerfield.
The Rangers' centerfield situation has really be in flux for the entire 21st century. The top five Ranger CF'ers, in terms of innings played in center since 2002, are:
Gary Matthews, Jr. -- 2294
Marlon Byrd -- 1818
Josh Hamilton -- 1694
Laynce Nix -- 1625
Julio Borbon -- 1365
There are 1458 innings in a full season, so basically, in the last 9+ years, no Ranger centerfielder has played more than a season and a half at the position. GMJ and Byrd were basically looked at as stop-gaps, Hamilton as a potential CF of the future who had to move off the position for various reasons, and Nix and Borbon as potential CF'ers of the future who disappointed.
There's a huge drop-off after that in innings, although not a huge drop-off in the number of players who logged significant innings. Kenny Lofton is next on the list, at 669 innings -- half the amount that Borbon has logged.
The others who have logged at least 100 innings in center for the Rangers since 2002 are (in decreasing order) Ruben Rivera, Ryan Christenson, Doug Glanville, Carl Everett, David Murphy, Ramon Nivar, Calvin Murray, Craig Gentry, Jerry Hairston, Jr., Ryan Ludwick, Donnie Sadler, Gabe Kapler, Jason Conti, Todd Hollandsworth, and Endy Chavez.
Quite the collection of has-beens and never-weres, that list.
That's 21 players with at least 100 innings in center for the Rangers in that stretch. In comparison, the Red Sox have had 9 (with Damon, Crisp and Ellsbury combining for over 10,000 innings), the Angels have had 12 (with Hunter, Erstad and Figgins combining for almost 6000 innings), the Twins have had 7 (Hunter, Span, Gomez and Ford combining for almost 13,000 innings) and the Yankees, who have had their own centerfield issues this decade, 9 (with Williams, Cabrera, Damon, Granderson and Gardner combining for almost 12,000 innings).
Even for a position that, league-wide, is hard to fill, the Rangers' have had a uniquely-revolving door in center. I think that certainly helps explain the targeting of young up-the-middle players and the willingness to give Leonys Martin a $15.5 million major league deal...that desire to develop a long-term solution in center.
Right now, the Rangers seem to be committed to running a three-headed monster out there in centerfield. Endy Chavez is playing against many righthanded pitchers.* Craig Gentry, the best defensive centerfielder in the organization, is playing against lefties, and is coming into games late when the Rangers have the lead for Chavez.** And Josh Hamilton is going to be out there once or twice a week, to allow David Murphy to get into the game in a COF spot.
* Since Julio Borbon was optioned, with many defending the decision to keep Chavez because "he's too hot to send down" and "you have to play the hot hand," Chavez has posted a .240/.296/.280 line. In his last 6 games, he is 3 for 20, with a .150/.227/.150 line. In other words, once again, the "hot hand" theory turned out to be nonsense.
** Reinforcing this important point: the Rangers have Chavez up here for his bat, not his glove.
What I'm curious to see is whether this mix-and-match arrangement will remain in place the rest of the way, or if the Rangers will go ahead and make a move to get a legitimate starting centerfielder on the 25 man roster. I suspect that Borbon won't be the guy,* and that he's played his last game with the Rangers...the question is if he'll be used as a package for a reliever in July, or for something else, such as a centerfielder.**
* I think part of the problem with the perception of Borbon stems from the way he started out his major league career, hitting .312 with a .376 OBP and 19 steals in 46 games in 2009. I think that created unrealistic expectations, that Borbon was going to be this dynamic force at the top of the lineup who was going to get on base a lot and cause havoc for opposing pitchers. If you expected Borbon to be a light-hitting glove man in centerfield -- which is what I've always viewed him as -- then what he's done since the start of the 2010 season is in line with expectations. If you expected him to be a top of the order hitter, though, you're going to be disappointed in what he's done, and more likely to view him as a failure.
** Julio Borbon, Michael Kirkman, and Tommy Mendonca for Michael Bourn -- who says no?
The Rangers don't look like they'll have the luxury they had at the end of 2010, putting it in cruise control for the last couple of months and gearing up for the playoffs. Maybe Hamilton goes to centerfield come October (assuming the Rangers make it that far), and the Rangers do some sort of platoon arrangement, with David Murphy playing left field against righthanded hitters, and Mitch Moreland going to the outfield against lefties, with Mike Napoli moving to first base.
Of course, that would require Murphy to start hitting like Murphy again, rather than hitting like...well, Endy Chavez.
The Rangers could go with the Chavez/Gentry platoon in centerfield down the stretch and in the playoffs, or let Gentry play center against lefties and have Murphy play against righties, meaning Hamilton moves to center against righthanded pitchers.
Or they could go out and trade for a legit centerfielder.
Part of what is hanging over this is the Leonys Martin situation. Martin got off to a hot start in Frisco and had folks talking about him potentially being an option this season, but I'm leery of dropping a guy into a major league pennant race with so little pro experience. I'd also prefer to go into 2012 with Martin as Plan B in centerfield, and someone like Bourn or Marlon Byrd (both of whom are free agents after 2012) as your Plan A, which is what makes dealing for a centerfielder like Bourn or Byrd attractive right now.
It is an interesting situation...I'm curious to see how long the Rangers ride out the three-headed monster, if they decide to commit to more of a straight platoon or to more Hamilton in center, or if they go outside the organization for a solution.
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we don't have to be comfortable with any of those options in October
Hamilton will be the CF in October with Murphy in left.
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Except for the Murphy in left bit.
"I hope the image of my erect penis sears into your brain." by ab03 on Mar 24, 2011 9:13 PM CDT
Hamilton will be in CF come August
It will be easier to get a RHB COF to platoon with Murphy then an everyday CF.
I know you're still struggling to find your way in LSB but you'd probably feel more comfortable in one of the other threads that talks about
weather, fashion, video games, uniform colors, etc. . - Josey Wales 5/18/11
Marcus Thames?
or is he just a DH at this point?
He's actually pretty much just a PH now
Only played 12 games in the field for the Dodgers…
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Adam is now footnoting his side thoughts in text like JoePos...
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Depends on the size of the note, IMO.
I’d probably find the two single asterisked notes distracting in a parenthetical, but then again I’m biased since I was traumatized as a younger man by page length parentheticals translated from French.
I wouldn't throw a paragraph-long aside into an in-paragraph parenthetical,
but I’d leave the single-asterisked ones exactly where they are, just lose the asterisks and italics and wrap the paragraphs in parentheses.
But I like parentheses… (favorite programming language: Lisp)
Yeah, a better way of putting it would be that those are about my limit for a parenthetical.
I like them too, but not as much as footnotes. But we’ve already had that conversation.
Another point of view would be that the sentence construction could be better thus allowing him not to use monstrous asides, parentheticals or footnotes.
Absolutely no criticism of the writing is coming from me. Just saying if you need that big of a parenthetical, it should just be written differently so the writer doesn’t have to create his own grammar rules or whatnot . Just saying.
"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2
i also don't mind trading for Bourn, although I think Houston would want a better pitcher back
than Kirkman.
I think they’d like a Tommy Hunter type.
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Given what we have now, I wouldn't mind either Kirkman or Hunter going to get Bourn in here
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Yep.
Perhaps they could throw in a reliever.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 17, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Borbon will be back up in a 3 weeks...
and Chavez will be gone.
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I doubt it.
"I hope the image of my erect penis sears into your brain." by ab03 on Mar 24, 2011 9:13 PM CDT
Just platoon Gentry with Borbon or Chavez.
You can’t trade assets if you think Martin is the answer next year. Especially for a small short-term upgrade like Bourne. He wouldn’t be much better than the platoon we have.
I was a Ranger fan when being a Rangers fan wasn't cool.
Bourn has been a 4.9 and 4.8 WAR centerfielder the last two years and is on pace to put up a similar season
You’re not willing to give up expendable pieces like Borbon, Mendonca and Kirkman for that kind of production and stability in CF for the next year and a half?
Plus his likely Type A Free Agent status draft picks at the end of that contract?
Even if the price is more than those named, it definitely more than worth it to get Bourn.
Should this be:
I’m* on the Byrdwagon.
* Still
"I hope the image of my erect penis sears into your brain." by ab03 on Mar 24, 2011 9:13 PM CDT
The Borbon/Chavez thing
To me, the whole focal point of this is not really on Chavez, but rather on Borbon. The hot hand theory is stupid, particularly if you plan to keep a guy up for more than a couple of weeks, but I don’t think the organization really believes Chavez is going to give them .800 OPS or whatever. Endy’s career OPS is .686, and I am not sure that the organization wouldn’t be happy if Endy just ended up giving them that kind of production for the rest of the season. Also, just because Gentry is replacing Chavez defensively does not necessarily mean Chavez is a “bad” CF. He is not as good as Gentry (who is excellent), but there really isn’t evidence to say he is even below average. He has been above average defensively all his career, advanced defensive metrics suggests that he is at least average in a extremely short sample this season, and he doesn’t really fail the eye-test either. I don’t think this is another Murphy in CF situation.
The Murphy in CF experiment after Hamilton went down pretty much tells you how much the organization thinks about Julio Borbon. It’s another Pedro Strop situation: the talent is there, but the result isn’t, and the team just does not trust him to put everything together. They may simply think that Endy is going to be overall a better CF than Borbon this season – and is a veteran to boot. I don’t think they are happy with the Endy/Gentry platoon, but they probably believe it will be better (and safer) than a Borbon/Gentry platoon.
If that’s the case, I would think they are going to be on the market for a CF. Bourn is a choice that I like, and I’d do the Borbon/Kirkman/Mendonca deal. Bourn isn’t flashy but he does everything well for a CF, and that extra 2012 year gives you addition security like you said so Martin won’t need to be rushed. He has been a top-10 CF for the last two years and should be around that range again this year. You can make the argument that he is likely to be even better than Byrd. If they don’t think Borbon is the answer, then I’d do that trade in a heartbeat.
This is what I'm thinking.
I’d like to see Borbon/Gentry, but if the organization thinks he won’t cut it I’ll defer to them. I’m hesitant to deal a reliever right now, with the bullpen struggling along as it is… I think a Borbon/Hunter/Mendonca deal might be more realistic from both sides.
I'm surprised GMJ and Nix played that many innings...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jun 17, 2011 2:18 PM CDT reply actions
jesus.. what happened to GMJ.. was it injury?
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jun 17, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
He stopped getting brown paper packages from that pharmacy
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
rangers agree to terms with top two picks according to FWST
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jun 17, 2011 2:21 PM CDT reply actions
Any thoughts on what it would take to trade for Byrd?
by death of the cool on Jun 17, 2011 2:47 PM CDT reply actions
...and how about a Byrd and Kerry Wood deal
fix 2 problems at once
by death of the cool on Jun 17, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
FWIW, I never really bought into the "hot hand" theory.
I was, however, a big believer in the “Julio Borbon sucks” theory.
The Julio Borbon Suck Theory
has been moved to the Fact category.
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I"m not sure of the official definition of a "hot hand" is
but a .435 .469 .696 1.165 line over his first 50 PA’s would seem to come close. I supported keeping him on the 25 (at the time) in favor of Borbon for just that reason, knowing full well that the bubble would burst. If that’s the end of the magic, I have no problem saying good-bye to him. But just like Borbon had the “hot hand” in 2009, Chavez had the hot hand for those initial 50 PA’s.
The problem with that is knowing when it cools off or if it's just a dip
The Las Vegas homeless shelters and pawn shops are full of people who made too much of a hot hand.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

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