Texas Rangers Mid-Season Grades -- The Pitchers
Today we do mid-season grades for the 19 pitchers who have taken the mound for the Rangers this year...
Dave Bush -- D
I guess you could say that he did what you expected him to do, which was not be good, but still...that was a bad signing, and Bush is now gone.
Cody Eppley -- D
He was a nice little story early in the season, but the numbers are awful...8.00 ERA, with 3 HRs and 5 walks allowed in 9 innings, versus just 6 Ks. He may have a future in the league, but it doesn't appear to be right now.
Neftali Feliz -- D
One of the most disappointing aspects of this season. Feliz is averaging fewer K/9 than every Ranger starter other than Matt Harrison. His command and stuff was terrible early in the year, he blew a bunch of saves, and looked at lot worse than his 3.18 ERA would indicate. He seems to be back on track of late, but thusfar, Feliz has not made us happy.
Matt Harrison -- A-
The peripherals aren't as good as his 3.04 ERA would suggest, but he's gotten results and looked like a different pitcher than the one we've seen in the past. And even his 4.04 FIP/4.05 xFIP exceed expectations coming into the season.
Derek Holland -- C-
One of the most frustrating pitchers on the team. His peripherals are as good as Harrison's, but he continues to be prone to the big inning, and continues to have command issues which seem to result in him leaving balls over the plate, resulting in his HR% and BABIP getting elevated. As he showed in his final pre-break start, he can be as good as any pitcher on the stuff when he's on...it is just a matter of him being on.
Tommy Hunter -- D
The D is because of the injury, which kept him out most of the first half of the season. He looks pretty decent in the bullpen so far, and there's the argument to be made that his injury was a good thing because it resulted in Ogando ending up in the rotation, but still...three straight springs with injuries is a bad trend.
Michael Kirkman -- F
Grouped together with Holland and Harrison as the lefties vying for a rotation spot and/or a bullpen spot, Kirkman has had command issues all year. He fell out of the rotation race with a sub-par spring, and in his stints in the major league bullpen, his command problems have killed him, resulting in a 7.33 ERA.
Colby Lewis -- D
Shades of Scott Feldman in 2010. Colbyashi was supposed to be the 1A to C.J. Wilson's 1 in the rotation. Instead, his command has come and gone, and he's been incredible homer prone. His 4.38 ERA isn't awful, but it is worse than expected. The Rangers really need a bounce-back second half from him.
Mark Lowe -- C-
Thought to be a possible closer candidate if Feliz went to the rotation, Lowe was awful this spring, awful in the regular season, and got sent down. Since his return he's been much better. Like Lewis, he's someone the Rangers need a big second half out of.
Darren O'Day -- D-
O'Day was bad in spring training, bad to start the season, had surgery on his hip, and now is back. He's got options, so if he doesn't get the ship righted, he could be back in AAA in the second half.
Alexi Ogando -- A+
This speaks for itself.
Darren Oliver -- B-
Oliver has a 2.45 ERA, which probably surprises a lot of folks. He also has a 3.17 FIP and a 3.16 xFIP, which is pretty solid. Oliver has had some memorable failures in high leverage situations, which has folks turning on him, but he's leading the Rangers in games pitched and has been the Rangers' best reliever this year. That may be damning with faint praise, but unless you believe that Oliver has just suddenly lost the ability to pitch well in close games, you should be able to trust him going forward.
Arthur Rhodes -- D-
Signed to be a power arm for the 8th inning, Rhodes has turned into a less-than-trustworthy LOOGY, and the Rangers are supposedly shopping him, which is a bad sign, given the Rangers are looking to trade for bullpen help.
Pedro Strop -- C
Lots of Ks, lots of walks, lots of ground balls. His numbers look okay, but Ron Washington seems like he'd rather have Omar Quintanilla on the mound in a close game than Strop, and Strop was banished to AAA to work on "slowing the game down." I suspect he's one of the pieces the Rangers are trying to use for help at the trade deadline.
Yoshinori Tateyama -- B+
Nice signing. He's not been great, gives you a weapon against righthanders, and can also go a couple of innings if need be in garbage time.
Mason Tobin -- F
The Rule 5 pick from Anaheim, Tobin wasn't good and then got hurt and is out for the season.
Brett Tomko -- D
Tomko pitched about like you'd expect Tomko to pitch, and so he's back in AAA.
Ryan Tucker -- D
See Brett Tomko.
C.J. Wilson -- A
Apparently, 2010 was not a fluke.
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some tough grading on Colby
I know you're still struggling to find your way in LSB but you'd probably feel more comfortable in one of the other threads that talks about
weather, fashion, video games, uniform colors, etc. . - Josey Wales 5/18/11
I think Cobra earned it...he's had a few dominant outings but he's been mostly bad.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jul 13, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
When that slider is on, no one can touch it....
….when the slider is off, Colby scares the shit out of me.
by ncrangerfan on Jul 13, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the expectations of Colby may have been a bit high
Inconsistency has been his problem. A ‘C’ may have been a better grade.
I know you're still struggling to find your way in LSB but you'd probably feel more comfortable in one of the other threads that talks about
weather, fashion, video games, uniform colors, etc. . - Josey Wales 5/18/11
C- sounds fair.
"It was wrote." by boomer1 on Jul 12, 2011 3:41 PM CDT
by bagsofnothing on Jul 13, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I can probably agree with this.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jul 13, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I think expectations were right where they should be
Lewis just hasn’t met them.
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
BigSteveMath alert
Take away his back to back starts in June where he went a combined 4.2 innings and gave up 15 ER and his ERA is 3.32
11 of his 18 starts have been quality starts
With Colby the home runs stick in our heads and his really bad outtings are glaring but I don’t think a D is warranted thus far. I would have gone with a C+
by bigsteve on Jul 13, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Take away the parts where he clearly sucked and he doesn't suck as much.
Seems pretty straightforward.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
You may be on to something, bigsteve.
Cobra has had 12 of 18 starts with a Game Score of 50+.
I’m moving him to C+
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jul 13, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I actually kind of agree with his reasoning though
I’d rather have a starter who’s pretty good and STBF a couple of times rather than a starter who’s just mediocre every game.
You’d probably also assume people wouldn’t post images of dinosaurs with human penises, but I’m looking for anything I can use to put a fighting robot together! -Closure GT, 7/5/11
by colonialbob on Jul 13, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Colby has been similar to Dutch
When good—very good. When bad—very bad. Colby has also had some games with one terrible inning early that he worked out of and wound up turning in 5 or 6 pretty good innings thereafter.
"Anyone that knows me, an' the game of baseball, know what Ron Washington is about."
Except that Colby has the track record that Holland doesn't have.
High expectations for Lewis have given him the low grade, when not as high of expectations has caused a slightly higher grade for Derek. I would probably move Colby up to a C-, but be more likely to replace Holland in the rotation if somebody needs to be replaced.
1 year in the Majors
following 2 dominant years in Japan.
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
I'd say a C+ is generous given his expectations
I’d put him at a C/C-. He’s done alright this season and has helped the club, but he hasn’t been the TORP we were expecting.
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
My expectations weren't as high for him as most here obviously
Just like with CJ I tempered my expectations wondering if last year was fluky or not. With CJ I wasn’t as worried because hes been in the majors for so long my biggest concern was the innings increase how it would affect him.
With Colby he had been gone for so long and before he went to Japan he wasn’t anything special so I was worried last year was a mirage and the league would catch up to him by now. He had the early season struggles which I have full confidence was attributed to having a newborn around but since then hes been pretty damn good except for those two horrible starts in June.
Sure the HRs are troubling but he has done a pretty nice job of avoiding the big home runs. They seem to be a lot of solo shots which suck to give up but in the end its really not that bad.
Rec for correct usage of BigSteveMath
oh wait, you should know, huh? Still, good job!
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
D seems really harsh on Hunter.
Napoli was hurt for a month, is a part-time player and still pulled down a B+.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Hunter has 8 IP in the first half
I don’t see how he is better than a D.
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
Actually, I'd give Hunter an A+
because he got injured and let Ogando be in the rotation…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
As a teacher...
You give Hunter an “I” for “Incomplete.” He just hasn’t turned in enough work.
"Anyone that knows me, an' the game of baseball, know what Ron Washington is about."
AJM needs Seth to do some proof reading for him
I know you're still struggling to find your way in LSB but you'd probably feel more comfortable in one of the other threads that talks about
weather, fashion, video games, uniform colors, etc. . - Josey Wales 5/18/11
I like "Holland can be as good as any pitcher on the stuff"
by thedudeabides on Jul 13, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
This, of course, means
“Holland can be as good as any pitcher on steroids.” In other words, Holland can be as good as Clemens on a good day. Makes perfect sense.
Raise your hand if you're an albino.
by Jorbert Jorgenson on Jul 13, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, they ARE....
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
So Holland gets a C- for performing like a number 4/5 SP
that he is?
I know you're still struggling to find your way in LSB but you'd probably feel more comfortable in one of the other threads that talks about
weather, fashion, video games, uniform colors, etc. . - Josey Wales 5/18/11
Yeah. AJM - are these grades off of expectations or performance - or both?
I expected D. Bush to be bad – maybe not as bad as he was so… maybe I’d give him a C+?
If you have a plan to construct somekind of a crude Twix vagaina, I’m all ears.
- Bob Loblaw
Yesterday he said,
“Grades are based on a mixture of expectations, performance, and role. There’s a formula, but it is a secret.” I like secrets, but not this one.
Raise your hand if you're an albino.
by Jorbert Jorgenson on Jul 13, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Adam has a proprietary formula that he won't share with the masses
sort of like credit scores, FA types and climate models
I know you're still struggling to find your way in LSB but you'd probably feel more comfortable in one of the other threads that talks about
weather, fashion, video games, uniform colors, etc. . - Josey Wales 5/18/11
Or original recipe chicken
"Anyone that knows me, an' the game of baseball, know what Ron Washington is about."
That's what I was thinking
It’s not my area of expertise so I didn’t say anything, but I did find it strange.
by Black Francis on Jul 13, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
remember how the report cards in school said that C was average
and yet most everyone got As and Bs, and if you got a C you were yelled at?
Well… that is because people grade on curves. Adam isn’t grading on a curve. He’s awesome for that.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I do like that.
I think his pitcher grades are a little harsher than the position player grades, but overall I think his grades are basically in line with what I would say.
You’d probably also assume people wouldn’t post images of dinosaurs with human penises, but I’m looking for anything I can use to put a fighting robot together! -Closure GT, 7/5/11
by colonialbob on Jul 13, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Considering I had next to no expectations for Holland this year
I’m tempted to give the kid a B.
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." — Dave Barry
by CrustytheCowboy on Jul 13, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
AJM doesn't like Holland...
giving Harrison an A- and Holland a C- is silly.
#’s :
Harrison – 103.2 IP | 96 H | 35 ER | 37 BB | 66 K | 5.73 K/9 | 3.21 BB/9 | .273 BABIP | 3.04 ERA | 4.04 FIP | 4.05 xFIP
Holland – 109.2 IP | 120 H | 57 ER | 41 BB | 82 K | 6.73 K/9 | 3.36 BB/9 | .316 BABIP | 4.68 ERA | 4.26 FIP | 3.92 xFIP
So unless you’re grading them strictly on ERA saying they’re that far apart is just wrong. I’d say Harrison gets a B+ and Holland a B-. Holland can be frustrating, but he hasn’t been average or below average for a 5th starter, and I don’t think Harrison can make it through a year with a .273 BABIP. We shall see.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
the expectations curve
allows dave bush and colby to get the same grade.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I wouldn't give Tom Hunter a bad grade for being hurt.
It’s not like he was injured doing something stupid like riding a Jet Ski.
guitar hero most likely, then.
If you have a plan to construct somekind of a crude Twix vagaina, I’m all ears.
- Bob Loblaw
Pretty sure that voids his contract.
Also… eating polish sausage made by someone with a last name ending in “ski” is violation of the no skiing rule as well.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
OK, regardless of the service time question, this proves you're insane...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
It's call back to a FanPost.
That was concerned that Kinsler riding a personal watercraft with a name of “Jet Ski” would violate his no skiing clause in the standard contract.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I don't know
It’s one of those things you have to judge for yourself, I guess. http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/7/11/2270152/kinsler-call-your-agent-before-you-head-for-the-lake
He never came back and tried to defend that bullshit, if that’s what you’re asking.
by Black Francis on Jul 13, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, I followed that one for a while...
I was just trying to debunk your claim in the Feldman thread that you weren’t insane
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Oh man, that's the best kind!
"Anyone that knows me, an' the game of baseball, know what Ron Washington is about."
It is kind of weird
how the pitching has been a pretty bright spot for this team this year, and yet the grades are pretty bad across the board outside Ogando, Wilson, and Harry.
And yet I can’t argue with any of the grades, really. Feliz and Lewis deserve near failing grades for just not showing up this year. Holland has been a flake – at times awesome, at times horrid. The bullpen, outside Oliver (who I still pretend isn’t on the Rangers), has been awful.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
When you have strong starting pitching
That’s the bulk of your innings.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
true
it just seems funny to me.
I guess part of it also is that Lewis and Holland have been good this year at times. But when they’ve been bad, they’ve devised new kinds of awful…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Its the expectations of Lewis and Holland that makes it worse as far as the grades go
Lewis was expected to be a TORP and clearly has fallen short of that. I think you could give Holland a bit more benefit, but he was also expected to take the Harrison leap this season and still hasn’t put it all together.
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
This
We don’t tend to consider Holland a typical #5 starter because of the talent he has. But if you look at him in that context, he looks better. When he is bad, he is all kinds of horrible, but he also has logged in 109.2 innings and half his starts have been QS—with 2 CG-Shutouts. That’s some upside in a #5.
"Anyone that knows me, an' the game of baseball, know what Ron Washington is about."
You want your #5 to just be fairly consistent and eat innings
If Holland can find a way for his bad starts to be 7 innings and 5 ER, then I’ll be content with him as a #5
Its kinda amusing though
when a 4.38 ERA from a starter is considered “Bad”. You flash back to 1998, and you have a playoff team where of the 7 guys who started 10 or more games for the team, the lowest ERA was 4.23 (by Aaron Sele) and the next two were 4.33 and 4.41.
The 1999 team had no starters with an ERA below 4.50 (Loaiza at 4.56 was the best).
3 starters with ERA’s below 3.50? how about 1983 with Rick Honeycutt, Frank Tanana, Charlie Hough, and Danny Darwin too.
Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011
I'll say it
Not the steroid era anymore.
At least I get to see the Rangers when they play the Twins now.
That, but more succinctly:
The number of runs scored back then in the league was dramatically higher

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