Rangers reportedly target Carlos Beltran, Heath Bell
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 1:27 PM CDT
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Adam Rubin of ESPN New York has a piece talking about the Rangers and the trade deadline, and this quote tells you what you need to know:
Texas has zeroed in on [Carlos] Beltran and Padres closer Heath Bell as its primary targets, according to a source.
Rubin goes on to say that Mets scout Bryan Lambe has been "re-directed" to watch the Rangers' class A Hickory team.
The Hickory players are obviously far away from the majors, and this suggests that Mets are at least open to centering a return around young, higher-ceiling players, rather than major-league-ready pieces. Jake Skole, Christian Villanueva, Kellin Deglan and Tomas Telis among position players, and Luke Jackson, Matt Thompson, Nick Tepesch, Cody Buckel, and Roman Mendez among the pitchers are guys who you'd think could be in play for someone like Beltran. Jurickson Profar, of course, is the Rangers' top prospect at Hickory, but he is supposedly not being moved for a rental player like Beltran. Beltran's value, meanwhile, is impacted by the fact that he can't be offered arbitration, so there would be no draft pick compensation after the season.
I suggested earlier this month that Neil Ramirez and Engel Beltre might be a reasonable deal for Beltran. With Ramirez on the shelf and the Mets scouting Hickory, we could revise a deal to something like Buckel, Mendez and Beltre for Beltran.
Beltran makes sense for Texas right now because the one hole in the everyday lineup is the third outfielder to play alongside Nelson Cruz and Josh Hamilton. David Murphy has been bad this year, Craig Gentry is a great defender who is better suited for a bench role than as a starter, and Endy Chavez is Endy Chavez, a bench player you probably don't want to rely on as a starter.
If we were starting a playoff series now, my guess is that the Rangers would put Mike Napoli at 1B and go with a Cruz/Hamilton/Mitch Moreland outfield against righthanded pitchers, and a Hamilton/Gentry/Cruz outfield against lefties.
Beltran, though, would give the team a switch-hitting high-OBP hitter for the middle of the order, and would allow you to run out a playoff lineup that looks like this:
Kinsler -- 2B
Elvis -- SS
Hamilton -- CF
Beltre -- 3B
Beltran -- LF
Young -- DH
Cruz -- RF
Moreland/Napoli -- 1B
Torrealba/Napoli -- C
That lineup is strong top to bottom, offensively and defensively. In fact, the more I sit and look at that lineup, the more on board I am with trading for Beltran, even knowing the price will hurt.
Heath Bell, meanwhile, is considered the top rental reliever on the market. Bell, who went undrafted* and was signed by the Mets as an amateur free agent. After having no success in New York, Bell was shipped with Royce Ring to the Padres for Ben Johnson and Jon Adkins in an exchange of spare parts after the 2006 season, and he's blossomed since then into one of the best relievers in the game.
* Technically, he was drafted by the Rays in the 69th round in the 1997 draft, but was undrafted the following year and was signed after the 1998 draft by the Mets.
That said, the 34 year old Bell's performance this year, while superficially very good, has raised some concerns.
The ERA is gaudy, but Bell is striking out only 6 batters per 9, well below his usual rate. Bell also benefits from playing half his games at one of the best pitchers' parks in baseball, and in the weaker league, which leads to some concerns about how he'd translate moving over to the A.L., and a hitter's park like Texas in particular.
San Diego is going to be asking a lot for Bell, and of course, as a likely Type A free agent after the season, if they don't like any of the offers out there, they can keep him and collect draft picks when he leaves after the season. The draft pick compensation, along with Bell's more reasonable salary (he makes $7.5 million in 2011), means that the price for Bell likely will be higher than the price for Beltran, assuming neither team eats any salary.
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On board with bringing on Beltran
still on the fence with Bell. Definitely need to bolster the bullpen one way or another though.
I've had a grudge against Beltran since he left Houston. heh.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Lots of relievers I'd rather have than Bell given what he'd likely cost.
But Beltran would be very welcome here.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Agreed on Bell
Petco park really helps his #‘s. He’ll be vastly overpriced compared to how he’ll perform.
I’d take Adams in a heartbeat, but the Padres are not trading him.
Don't wanna lose LuJack.
Otherwise, Beltre w/ a couple A guys not named Profar would be painless for Beltran.
Que sera, sera.
Another motivation for getting Beltran...
That means other contenders don’t get him either.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Why?
What about Philly?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
If the price is right
bring in Beltran.
Buckel or Mendez, Villanueva or Deglan, and Telis for Beltran seems fair, as we can’t get picks from him.
I'm wouldn't give the Mets
“Tea Time” Buckel. He’s a borderline top 100 prospect.
"Certainly, we were penalties, and we stopped ourselves." - Les Miles
I love Buckel
maybe more than most, but I’d do it for Beltran. I’d much prefer to move Mendez or a guy like Tepesch or Thompson.
Mendez becomes rule 5 eligible after this year.
He’s low enough that he might be safe… but you never know… someone might take a chance on him.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Any others in Hickory rule 5 eligible?
Mendez would be a guy to move for sure in light of this. He is very good and worth protecting for many orgs, but probably not ours.
Telis, Mendez and Melo are the main ones
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Telis would also be a good piece to throw in.
Though I think Telis is very unlikely to be acquired via Rule-5, and Melo certainly would not be.
I don't think Buckel is a borderline top 100 prospect
he’s good, a solid B/B- guy. But he’s just not at that level.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I remember reading from someone
that by the end of this season Buckel could sneak into his top 100. His stats are certainly on that level.
"Certainly, we were penalties, and we stopped ourselves." - Les Miles
If you're not willing to give up guys like Buckel for rental studs like Beltran
Then you’ve fallen too much in love with your prospects.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I'm saying that I'd rather trade Mendez
than Buckel.
"Certainly, we were penalties, and we stopped ourselves." - Les Miles
Hrm.
I’m not saying it’s an idiotic position to hold, but I personally value the ceiling of Mendez more than that.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Seems questionable.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see the Rangers trading Deglan
I know you're still struggling to find your way in LSB but you'd probably feel more comfortable in one of the other threads that talks about
weather, fashion, video games, uniform colors, etc. . - Josey Wales 5/18/11
I'll never forget that 2004 performance.
While I don’t expect him to come close to repeating it, I’m 100% on board with acquiring him.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
*at the suggested asking price
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
if you wanna hear JD talk about stuff like this
I’ve got an extra ticket to tomorrow’s fun. My friend can’t go…and I couldn’t find any other friends who wanted/could go.
You can email me or just comment here. (There are 2 LSB’s I’d give preference to, only cause they hooked me up before.)
I’d like my money back….so the cost is $35 for the ticket to both the Q&A’s and game.
So, you are inviting someone to accompany you
yet making them pay?
That’s ridiculous.
Make the friend who couldn’t go pay you back, not the person you are inviting.
by DevilManHammy on Jul 23, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Who's paying for parking, though?
Will whoever accompanies him have to let him out at the gate before parking the car?
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
by colonialbob on Jul 23, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Heheh
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
not really inviting someone to "accompany" me.
inviting someone who wants to go…but didnt get in on the ticket splurge. Newberg report night sold out in 24 hours. i dont need someone to sit with…I dont talk much at a game…i’m there to watch.
Not scalping….this isn’t ridiculous. If no one wants to go…I’ve got an email in to jamey asking if I can switch from 2 regular seats to 1 suite and me pay the difference.
you're the one being ridiculous.
he isn’t asking anyone out on a date. he’s offering an extra ticket to a sold out event at face value. don’t be an idiot.
by alon91 on Jul 23, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He probably should
but he won’t. So we may as well not even think about it.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
AJMs hate for Chavez knows no bounds.
JK
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
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Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Could see Reed Johnson becoming one of most coveted trade pieces: .407 OBP, .978 OPS vs. LHP, owed only $300K for rest of year.BOS/FLA/ATL?
I remember us begging to sign him as he was so solid vs. LHP
I’m loving Gentry though…he’s been very solid.
Reed Johnson is someone I wanted the Rangers to get this off season...
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I was pushing when he was DFA'd a couple of weeks into the season
but I think someone got hurt so he wasn’t even waived, just re-added to the big league roster.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
LSB would hate him.
He keeps a pic of Ty Cobb in his locker, emulates his play. Would be too much grit for LSB.
Que sera, sera.
I just don't see the need for Beltran.
Since June 10 (when the Angels became en fuego), we’ve gone 21-14 but have given up 154 runs which is 25-30 more runs than Boston, NYY and LAAA have all given up.
Get the gamechanger starter and fix the bullpen…it’s pitching that wins in October.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I think that's a fallacy.
You improve your club in anyway you can. Offense, Defense and Pitching.
It’s a question of how much of an improvement is a piece over what you’ve got.
Beltran is a very big upgrade over Murphy / Chavez / Gentry. He’s that OBP machine you’ve been dying for since ManRam was on the market. .388! I’ll point that out again… .388!!!
I expect we’ll add a bullpen arm… probably not a starter but you never know.
But we’ve got such a deep system there’s no sense in not getting Beltran too if you can. Keeps him out of other hands and makes your offense even more ridiculous.
And as far as concerns about our pitching… notice that the Red Sox have given up the same number of runs… they just score more. They might be the best team in the league.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
by Brad on Jul 23, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd prefer adding the starter to the bullpen arm.
But if we’re truly playing the “go big or go home” game, then it’s probably not going to happen.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
A mid to bottom level starter doesn't have a definitive spot here.
Except for Holland’s spot… and we can win the division without another starter [Jon Morosi’s opinion aside].
It’s a playoff starter that would be an upgrade.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I disagree with the premise
I think a mid-level (Baker and Kuroda are clear #3s) starter absolutely has a place here.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
The ROI isn't high enough.
Given the prospects you’d have to give up, how much of an improvement is a mid level guy going to give you in a four man rotation?
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Do you think the deal I proposed for Baker + Nathan generates too little ROI?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Lemme go back and look.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Baker and Nathan make me nervous.
But we’re trading guys who are all flameout chances.
But I’d rather use those assets for something with upside.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I'm thinking when you trade flameout candidates, you do so for more predictability
I dunno. I like Baker/Nathan veteranyness
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Who would they replace?
Ogando? No.
Wilson? No.
Harrison? Surprisingly, no.
Colby/Holland? That might be a slight upgrade, but probably not worth enough to trade prospects for.
Insurance against a Ceej move in the offseason
Upgrade over Holland
Probable upgrade over Ogando and Harrison
Colby truly isn’t going anywhere, so I’ll leave that alone.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Why do we need an upgrade over Holland?
Do you think we can’t win the division with Holland as our 5th starter?
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Not about the division. This is about October.
I’ve thought the division was in the bag since March.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Holland isn't a starter in October.
Upgrading him is unnecessary.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Maybe I'm too chicken little on this
But I’m really concerned about Ogando/Harrison/Holland as the 3/4/5longman in Oct.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I am too.
But I want someone definitively better than those guys.
Baker doesn’t seem like he would be. His K numbers are up… but he’s a severe flyball pitcher.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Cubs are apparently only dealing guys who's contracts end this year.
Garza and Marshall aren’t on the table.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Sigh
:(
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Let's say C.J. leaves this offseason and no one is added via trade/f.a.
You have a 2012 rotation of Lewis, Ogando, Holland, Harrison, and Feliz, with Hunter, Feldman, Hurley and Kirkman as your rotation depth, and Ramirez and Perez knocking on the door.
I don’t see we need C.J. insurance.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Feliz in the rotation next year?
That worked out so well this year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
With Ogando moving to the rotation?
Yeah, it did. I think with Ogando and C.J. successfully transitioning, it makes it almost certain Feliz is in the rotation in 2012.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Given the Rangers success I'd expect more attempts at this from other orgs as well.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
not to mention that Feliz hasn't taken steps forward as a closer
he looks kind of bored out there? People won’t be able to argue that he’s the next Mariano Rivera after this season, at which point the “Feliz as starter” camp looks a bit stronger
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I can't figure Feliz out. I trust the coaches to figure out what he's going to be.
I can see the “looks bored out there” meme with him, but I’m not sure that’s it. I really hope he still likes playing the game and isn’t complacent. He’s not “that” great.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Except Feliz said he didn't want to do it and also said he wanted to remain as the closer.
Then he went on the DL in May because of his shoulder and he also had one of his longest bouts of ineffectiveness.
We were fortunate with Ogando & CJ but I’m just fine with Feliz as the closer for now.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Nolan wants Feliz in the rotation, though
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mmmmhmmmm
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Nolan isn't perfect.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Stay loose JW.
Avoid lightening from above… blasphemy is dangerous business.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
but i thought you had a lifesize cutout of him on your wall that you pray to everyday
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
btw
It is called a Fathead.
http://www.fathead.com/mlb/texas-rangers/nolan-ryan-tex/
I know you're still struggling to find your way in LSB but you'd probably feel more comfortable in one of the other threads that talks about
weather, fashion, video games, uniform colors, etc. . - Josey Wales 5/18/11
Feliz is in the rotation next year. Book it.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
We heard the same bullshit last year and in 2009.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Book. It.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Christ almighty.
I think slotting Ogando in at #2 with the 200 IP obligation for 2012 is almost as crazy as assuming Webb was your #3 back in March, 2011.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
You think Ogando is smoke and mirrors?
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I think his pedigree is cause for concern. I think he closes for us next year.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
No way.
You really think that after the year he’s had starting, they’re going to just throw him into the bullpen? Not a chance in hell.
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
He's outright said he doesn't want to go back to the bullpen
He likes starting.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
Good for him.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
The year ain't over yet.
I expect injury more than implosion, but I expect one of the two, unless the team finds a way to handle him with kid gloves
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
That still doesn't make much sense.
He’s shown he can be a very good starter, plus he’s improved as the year has gone on. I’m not saying he won’t ever end up in the bullpen, but they’ll give him every chance to prove he can cut it as a starter (assuming he does get hurt, which is certainly not a given).
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
I'd be beyond shocked if that happened
I can’t imagine that, after what he’s done this season, they turned around and put him in the bullpen next year, unless he collapses the rest of the way.
That would make zero sense.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Moving Feliz to the rotation and Ogando to the closer role?
THAT would be dumbass.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jul 23, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No way in hell this happens.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
And I'm not worried about trading for a middle of the rotation guy right now because of a fear that C.J. will leave and no other starter will be able to be added this offseason
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
The Rangers shouldn't be making trades for 2012 right now
that’s kind of silly. If they get a guy who has value beyond this year, then great. But they need to be worried about this year this year.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Who would be your closer though...
Maybe Lowe? Still seems too shaky to me, but who knows, a lot can happen by that time.
If someone says Scheppers I’m gonna lose it!
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
I trust Webb like I trust Harden...
"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill
"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis
I trust Harden like I trust Spinoza
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
What I always find interesting about Scheppers
is that he was the best player on the Fresno State team that won the CWS a few years ago (With Mendonca) yet was injured during the entire run.
by DevilManHammy on Jul 23, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Closers tend to follow that old adage...
“I was looking for one when I found this one.”
Torrealba must go.
Why do you feel upgrade over Ogando?
Ogando is eliminating reasons to doubt him. Innings concerns, peripherals… he just keeps going out and kicking ass.
Taking over a salary like Kuroda’s is a really good way to make sure the Rangers definitely don’t sign Ceej in the offseason.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
Ok, so you're replacing Holland in the rotation then.
That means that these guys probably won’t be pitching in the postseason. Colby isn’t going anywhere, and Harrison > these guys for this season unless he has a few meltdown starts in a row.
I’d rather not part with prospects that have zero impact on the playoff rotation.
I really don't see how Harrison > Baker, Kuroda (and Garza) for this season.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Red flag on Garza
He was not mentioned, and he cannot be traded for.
I’d take a 3.95 AL FIP over a 3.75 NL FIP any day.
Baker has been better than Harrison. However, he has had injury trouble this season (15day DL, elbow) which concerns me. Harry has had a blister. He’d also take a lot to acquire.
Yes.
You need to consider how many more runs the replacement adds/saves over the guy currently in the spot, but if you’re increasing your run differential by scoring even more, you’re still making your team better.
Best player available, with consideration for what they’re replacing and what you’re giving up.
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The only gamechanger starter out there is Ubaldo Jimenez
Do you trade Perez, Profar, Erlin and Harrison for Jimenez?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Not if that's what it takes.
But pull Profar out of that and I would.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I'd sub something else for Perez. We have 2B & SS covered quite well.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Profar will end up being more valuable than Perez IMO.
He may never play here… but if you are going to move him [and I hope we never do] you wait till his value is maximized.
Perez value may be at its highest point in terms of being a prospect.
You could argue that Profar might be too given his helium… but the reviews are just absolutely mesmerizing on Profar.
Strong chance he’s a top 5 in all of baseball next year.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Agree with all of this
with the obvious exception for Kershaw
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
He's not going to agree becauase he can't think that logically.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I'm not going to agree because I don't like giving away top-shelf
young LH pitchers.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Ubaldo would require a major organizational move
That sort of deal (or whatever would be required) likely seems like something to significant to undertake in the middle of a season.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I think I'd put the odds at
Ubaldo traded this week: 10%
Ubaldo traded this winter: 60%
Ubaldo in Colorado in 2012: 30%
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I might agree with that 10%
Of which JD represents a significant fraction.
That said, trading for Ubaldo basically means they aren’t going to make an extremely strong push for CJ, or that they’ve at least decided they don’t have much chance in re-signing him (at least that is how I’d read it).
I also don’t really get Colorado’s motive to move him now though. A trade THAT big would probably yield a greater return in the offseason; few teams will give up major pieces that they need right now. The market for Ubaldo is pretty small – Texas, Cincy, New York?; this winter it would be 29 teams…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
The Colorado motive to move Ubaldo is a red flag.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
And yet the Yankees have expressed interest. What gives???
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
What are you saying?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Yankees expressing interest is conclusive evidence that he's worth pursuing.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
You know
I wonder if this isn’t more an instance of Colorado looking at the state of the Yankee rotation, and the dearth of playoff-caliber starters on the trade market, and thinking, “This is our chance to get a ridiculous haul from New York for Jimenez.”
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm trying to troll here, Adam.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
But I think that's possible.
Yankees could ship Montero Betances ++
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I don't understand why Colorado would be so willing to give up
a supposed ace like Ubaldo when they have cornerstone stud players in their prime like Tulo & Cargo.
Ubaldo, who is relatively inexpensive and tethered to the team for a few years, is exactly the kind of pitcher you target when you have players like that.
If you’re lucky enough to have him, you don’t trade him for somebody else’s farm unless there’s something else in play.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
He's probably pissed off aobut money.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
They asked for Montero, Belances, Banuelos, and Nova
It isn’t like they’d be giving him away.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a ridiculous haul.
So if the Yankees do it, then your supposition is probably right.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
3?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
2.5 if he gets traded.
3.5 if he stays in Colorado.
Club option gets voided for 2014 if he’s traded.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
You also didn't understand why Colby Lewis signed with Texas
or why MY was being moved from SS for a 20 year old.
It seems there are some things in the baseball world even the most die-hard fans can’t comprehend.
I have more faith in JD figuring out why Colorado wants to give up Ubaldo.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
On the chance that a team making a push panics.
For the playoff run.
What if the Yankees say yes to their demands? Especially with Steinbrenner craziness…
If they say no… well now they’ve got teams thinking about it for the winter.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I'm not sure how much it affects CJ,
since Ubaldo is cost-efficient for a few years.
Que sera, sera.
Cost wise I think he's negligible.
Heck, Scott Feldman will make more than Ubaldo next year…
But if you’re paying all that other cost in terms of players, you are doing it in anticipating needing Ubaldo rather than simply wanting him…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
No
Health is the tie breaker
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
So I am more bullish on Bell than most people here
Sure the K/9 is down some, and doesn’t bode well for him long-term. But we’re not talking about predicting his performance next year. We’re concerned with how well he’ll do over the next 3 months. And I think he’s better than anyone else out there for the next three months.
Right now, if the Rangers were playing the Yankees in the playoffs and ARod or Granderson was up as the go ahead run in the eighth inning, I’d rather have Bell out there than anyone in the Rangers bullpen. Including Feliz. That’s really my only concern.
As for Beltran, I’m all for getting him, though I would never trade any prospect whose name started with ‘P’ for either of them.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
You get to see both Bell & Adams...who is the better fit for this bullpen?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Padres games bore me so much I don't usually make it to when they come into pitch...
Adams is definitely my preference. But I also see no reason for the Padres to trade him, so I think Bell comes cheaper and he’s very very good…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Keep your dirty hands off Craig Paisano!
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
El Viento Latino
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Beltran
I know Beltran doesn’t address our primary need, but it really looks like he could be had for a reasonable price. And he makes us a good deal better. I’d be all over that.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
Somebody's feeling lippy today
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the idea the more I think about it.
Yes, the bullpen has struggled, but the rotation’s largely been solid, and there’s no guarantee a starter would improve you much going forward this season.
But the lineup with Beltran added?
That is a shit your pants scary line-up.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
Plus there's the potential of Scheppers and NeRam to bolster the pen.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
The problem I see with Beltran
is that other teams NEED him more than we do (as we only want him). Someone else will be willing to pay more than the Rangers should pay, if that makes any sense.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Fine... then we can drive up the price.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
eh, I don't really care how much Atlanta pays in prospects to the Mets
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I do... that's one less prospect they can use to compete with us on a different deal.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Roman
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Food? Yes.
Everything else? Not so much.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't care about getting Heath Bell.
Surely there’s someone under the radar who can strike guys out. If not, the pen has been looking better anyway.
But Beltran…pretty nice.
Beltran 2nd
Andrus 9th. RW would never do it, but that would be my lineup.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jul 23, 2011 2:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
As for the lineup...
1. Kinsler – 2B
2. Beltran – LF
3. Hamilton – CF
4. Beltre – 3B
5. Young – DH
6. Cruz – RF
7. Napoli/Moreland – 1B
8. Torrealba/Napoli – C
9. Andrus – SS
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Great minds...
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jul 23, 2011 2:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Dat dream team!
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
Yes that's my foot and no I don't have a wide stance.
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
Hopefully in the playoffs
his ass stays glued to the bench.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
As an interesting note...
Among pitchers with at least 80 IP… Matt Harrison is 7th in all of MLB with a QS% of 78%
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
As a note for QS%
MLB Rank
7) Matt Harrison: 78%
18) Alexi Ogando: 72%
31) C.J. Wilson: 67%
37) Colby Lewis: 65%
95) Derek Holland: 50%
129 pitchers ranked. Jo Jo Reyes was dead last at 30%.
Dave Bush was 0 for 3 in QS.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
what is the MLB or AL rank?
I know you're still struggling to find your way in LSB but you'd probably feel more comfortable in one of the other threads that talks about
weather, fashion, video games, uniform colors, etc. . - Josey Wales 5/18/11
I don't understand your question.
The rank I gave was amongst all ML pitchers, NL and AL combined.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
what is the avg for the ML then?
I know you're still struggling to find your way in LSB but you'd probably feel more comfortable in one of the other threads that talks about
weather, fashion, video games, uniform colors, etc. . - Josey Wales 5/18/11
List I'm looking at doesn't have the average.
But median (65) is 57%
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I'm surprised CJ isn't higher.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Loux
Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein
He’s been quite good. Steal if he stays healthy (big if) RT @Vansantc @Kevin_Goldstein speaking of Loux, how’s he looking?
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
awesome
he was perhaps the most controversial of our prospects to rank…
The Ninja Strikes Again
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
It would make me really happy if that one worked out.
I like when intelligent decisions work out.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Goldstein, Law
Honorifics: Prospecters, M.D.s
I weep for what could have been made of a Hunter trade.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Incarceratedbob is back!
@incarcerated bob BREAKING MLB NEWSSource: Rangers sources feel like they are close2 a significant deal within the next 48hours (Beltran / Pence or Bell)
I hate him.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
BREAKING NEWS......A TRADE WILL GO DOWN IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS !
good lord…..give me a break. This guy is dumbassery at its finest
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
no
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
he usually predicts in generalities so that they can be true
he might end of right on this, but its not because of any sources. lucky guess (everyone knows the Rangers are interested in those guys)
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Notice he said "Rangers sources feel like they are close..."
When it doesn’t happen, he can always say “well it fell through,” or “my sources were wrong.”
He’s not actually predicting anything.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Blind Squirrel ratios.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
yes, that he's incarcerated.
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
Yes that's my foot and no I don't have a wide stance.
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
i will never forgive him for how he toyed with us for cliff lee
by rangersfan32 on Jul 23, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Same here.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
exactly
incarceratedbob incarcerated bob
Everybody knows i am a Yankee fan (Since Donnie Baseball Era) so this really pains me to report (Lee staying in Texas) but i had 2 do it.
15 minutes ago Favorite Reply
heyman is biased in his news reporting
but at-least the news is accurate
by rangersfan32 on Jul 23, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
It is if it's a Boras client.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I got sucked into the stupid again a week or so ago
on a trade article he wrote. Regarding Jiminez, he talked about the top 10 Yankees prospects and how they may or may not be included in a trade then casually mentioned that the Reds and Rangers have good prospects as well (no mention of individuals). It was ridiculous.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if it will be end up being Pence.
He’s from Arlington isn’t he?
Indeed.
Went to AHS.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
And UTA, actually.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
reply fail but yes he did report that
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
No
Because no reasonable person would believe that an “incarcerated Bob” tweet was correct.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't listen to AJM
plenty of people got excited about Bob’s tweets. New territory for Rangers to legitimately be in the running for a guy like Cliff Lee.
x
Maybe Bob’s news report was contingent on us giving Lee that 7th year.
by rangersfan32 on Jul 23, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
But the PLANE...in ARKANSAS
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Actually that was just LSB trolling Twitter.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Not yet.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
The format of your posts is maddening.
You can put all of that question in the subject line.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Stop apologizing about everything.
Stand up for yourself and tell people to fuck off if you need to.
However, Aqua is right in regards to the format of your posts.
by DevilManHammy on Jul 23, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
It's true... a time honored tradition of LSB is to tell people to fuck off.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Fuck
off Matcht1ck.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
by AceJC on Jul 23, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
don’t be afraid to drop in a timely “fuck off” every once in a while.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
hey Josey...
FUCK THE FUCK OFF
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....
by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 23, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But seriously...
Don’t chop off your title line like that.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Nobody is pissed off at you.
It almost seems like you think there has to be a subject line and a text line, and that’s not the case.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Fuck
off Aquaman if you don’t like how i post
by G_man95 on Jul 23, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just said that nobody was mad at you.
Not sure why this is necessary.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Kidding?
Watch that.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
No, not at all.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
How
easy was that?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Oh
yeah.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
LSJ is
going to be pissed.
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
thismemeissuperannoying.gif
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
"For one, no, we fucking murdered you at basketball and Jesus and the Rapture isn’t going to save you from that shame, kid" -GoET
"I don’t think one thing I’ve said about Frisco in these threads is incorrect or unreasonable." -FuturePants
YOU'RE ALL ON "THE LIST!"
"i'm convinced every day i have less and less to live for " -TagDontTweet
I will check in and add you to my circle
or however you do it. I’m not up on + yet
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
"For one, no, we fucking murdered you at basketball and Jesus and the Rapture isn’t going to save you from that shame, kid" -GoET
"I don’t think one thing I’ve said about Frisco in these threads is incorrect or unreasonable." -FuturePants
YOU'RE ALL ON "THE LIST!"
"i'm convinced every day i have less and less to live for " -TagDontTweet
Knowing
that pisses off aqua, every post you make should be just like it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Exactly what a troll would say.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Somebody's
getting pissed!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Why don't you two just respond to eachother?
by TooLegitToQuit on Jul 23, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
why don't they just make out and get it over with
the sexual tension is tearing LSB apart!
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
"For one, no, we fucking murdered you at basketball and Jesus and the Rapture isn’t going to save you from that shame, kid" -GoET
"I don’t think one thing I’ve said about Frisco in these threads is incorrect or unreasonable." -FuturePants
YOU'RE ALL ON "THE LIST!"
"i'm convinced every day i have less and less to live for " -TagDontTweet
I agree.
Or they both need to apologize to eachother.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jul 23, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
x
Homer: Marge, will you please tell Lisa to pass the syrup?
Marge: Lisa, will you please pass the syrup?
Lisa: Bart, tell Dad I will only pass the syrup if he promises not to use it on any meat projects.
Bart: You dunk those sausages in syrup homeboy?
Homer: Marge, tell Bart that I just want my glass of syrup like I do every morning.
Marge: Homer, it’s Lisa you’re not talking to, not Bart.
Homer: Lisa, will you tell your mother …
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
"For one, no, we fucking murdered you at basketball and Jesus and the Rapture isn’t going to save you from that shame, kid" -GoET
"I don’t think one thing I’ve said about Frisco in these threads is incorrect or unreasonable." -FuturePants
YOU'RE ALL ON "THE LIST!"
"i'm convinced every day i have less and less to live for " -TagDontTweet
This from a reader on BBTIA
A Mets fan I talk with on a board says that he heard on radio up there that a Beltran deal is “getting closer” and that the Braves and Rangers are the now the favorites… Phillies are out of it.
Take it FWIW
Echo
chamber
effect is in
full
swing
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
You
know
that
aqua’s
blood
pressure
is
rising
as
he
sees
this.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
so much depends
upon
a red wheel
barrow
glazed with rain
water
beside the white
chickens.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Others will google this, but I knew it, Adam. I knew it.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
"The University of the South"!!!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
x
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
So my friend is next-door neighbors with Beltran
his house has been on the market since last winter.
I heard Beltran was seen buying several pairs of boots.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I heard he was getting on a plane bound for TEXA$
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
"For one, no, we fucking murdered you at basketball and Jesus and the Rapture isn’t going to save you from that shame, kid" -GoET
"I don’t think one thing I’ve said about Frisco in these threads is incorrect or unreasonable." -FuturePants
YOU'RE ALL ON "THE LIST!"
"i'm convinced every day i have less and less to live for " -TagDontTweet
get BigSteve on this ASAP.
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
Yes that's my foot and no I don't have a wide stance.
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
by BigGuns on Jul 23, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bring in the bels
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
I'd love to have Bell
but I do not like the price it’ll likely cost =/
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Lineup with Beltran
Kinsler, 2B
Hamilton, CF
Beltran, LF
Beltre, 3B
Young, DH
Cruz, RF
Napoli, C
Moreland, 1B
Andrus, SS
Well, he flipped Carlos and Josh, but yeah.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I don't see any way that Wash bats Hamilton second.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I wouldn't have Hamilton and Beltran bat back to back
Given how righty-heavy the rest of the lineup is.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
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"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
High start up capital. Plus Ben I don't see Ben being the greatest muscle man.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
crazy + muscle > crazy
hey I put you on a work out program 2 years ago figured you’d be a muscle stud by now.
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
Yes that's my foot and no I don't have a wide stance.
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
But don't get caught bringing crazy to a baseball bat fight
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec for good advice
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
"For one, no, we fucking murdered you at basketball and Jesus and the Rapture isn’t going to save you from that shame, kid" -GoET
"I don’t think one thing I’ve said about Frisco in these threads is incorrect or unreasonable." -FuturePants
YOU'RE ALL ON "THE LIST!"
"i'm convinced every day i have less and less to live for " -TagDontTweet
Decided not to
Didn’t have the customer base at the time (early 90s) where it could have worked. I would have needed to be in a frat or some organization with lots guys who had some money.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
You'd also need a couple other books you could lay off to when the need arised
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It's pretty easy, but the frat thing is a great help.
The Internet ruined everything.
Que sera, sera.
Yeah, almost everyone I knew bet college and pro football
Maybe 50% bet college basketball, which is actually a little easier.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The first action I ever took was on the Derby,
freshman year in the dorms. I found people would bet on almost anything. By year 2, we were making exotics available on every NFL game, and every NBA playoff game.
Que sera, sera.
How big a bet would you take?
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
On the Derby? Shit, nothing over 20 bills that first time.
By the end, capped off at a dime. Of course that was dependent on the player, had to build a certain amount of credibility and reliability. I was fine w/ payment plans for the well established guys.
Fun times, didn’t hold a real job for 4 years.
Que sera, sera.
So where would you get your lines, the Stardust? Gold sheet?
I would think you would have to shift them a good point, point and a half for UNT and Cowboy games.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I was going to ask this.
I always enjoyed doing my bets online because I would get the extra point or two that my friends wouldn’t on local games.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
I would just work off the DMN lines,
which I think were Roxborough’s(nationally syndicated).
I became a bit obsessive, and kept profiles on all my clients. Basically keeping track of their trends, so many people bet w/ their hearts. While others had habits such as playing road dogs getting less than 3. The theory being the dog was the better team.
Cowboy and UT lines moved the most. UNT didn’t get much action. Only from the obsessives that would bet 30 games every Saturday. Loved those guys.
Que sera, sera.
What is the biggest parlay anybody ever hit on you?
3 or 4? If you say 5 i will shed a tear for you.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
One year we made these silly parlay sheets.
3-10 games. They were basically for small action people that wanted a little fun. A lot of girls would play them. Bet anywhere from $1-10, just an easy way to make an extra couple hundred bucks a week.
We gave legit payouts 3-6, then way below value on 7-10. A 10 teamer only gave back 100-1. Anyways, some guy, no lie hit a 10 teamer for 5 bucks.
I don’t remember ever taking a loss on anything over 4 from the big boys.
Que sera, sera.
I hit on a 12 once on SportsBook.com where I bet $5.
I paid off one of my semesters of undergraduate betting on games.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Best online book, bar none, imo.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Also
I call bullshit on anyone who claims to have hit bigger than 6.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
It was the day of the Rams-Texans game where the Rams won in overtime on a long TD pass.
They were down 21 going into the fourth quarter and forced overtime.
I understand the skepticism, and I guess I don’t have any real way to prove it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I would be euphoric. I'll take your word for it, I guess.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I needed them to win by 5, and once they got down big I though I was done for sure.
Then they forced overtime, and I just assumed they’d win by 3 and I’d still be fucked. When they scored that TD, though, I went crazy.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
The non-scholarship portion, I should say.
I don’t want to make it seem like I brought in $30k or anything.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Oh, ok.
That makes more sense. Still…impressive.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn.
At Baylor that’s no small chunk of change.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Betting at Tech in the 80s was HUGE.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Where's your preferred book (to actually watch the games on a CFB weekend) in Las Vegas?
Have a trip planned for mid-October.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I haven't been in 5-6 years but my favorite
place to watch / bet sports and drink like a fish was The Mirage.
I like Mandalay Bay quite a bit and Caesar’s was solid.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
It's so rampant in college.
At least it was, not sure how much the Internet has obliterated the bookies. It’s been a while.
Que sera, sera.
That wouldn't have been too difficult
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 23, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably not
It’s in the Bookies best interest most of the time to keep in touch.
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Righty, this year. Way.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
No...
This year he’s got a .406 wOBA against RHP as a LHB vs a .357 against LHP as a RHB.
Career is: .370 vs RHP and a .381 vs LHP
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Huh
I was going solely on what some Marlins announcers were saying last night, which was that Beltran had 15HRs batting righty and 1 batting lefty this year.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
But I was half asleep
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Rosenthal
needs to retire the bow-tie bit.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Rosenthal
mentions Cleveland as possible destination for Upton.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I'm saddened that there is someone out there
who is going to wed Ben Rothlisberger this weekend.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
I hate every ape I see
From Chimpan-A to Chimpanzee
No, you’ll never make a monkey out of me.
Oh my God, I was wrong
It was Earth all along
You’ve finally made a monkey (yes we’ve finally made a monkey)
Yes you’ve finally made a monkey out of me!!!!!!!!!!
I love you, Dr. Zaius!
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
"For one, no, we fucking murdered you at basketball and Jesus and the Rapture isn’t going to save you from that shame, kid" -GoET
"I don’t think one thing I’ve said about Frisco in these threads is incorrect or unreasonable." -FuturePants
YOU'RE ALL ON "THE LIST!"
"i'm convinced every day i have less and less to live for " -TagDontTweet
by Bob Loblaw on Jul 23, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can I play the Piano any more?
Of course you can!
Well, I couldn’t before.
x
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
x
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
no
/FP
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
"For one, no, we fucking murdered you at basketball and Jesus and the Rapture isn’t going to save you from that shame, kid" -GoET
"I don’t think one thing I’ve said about Frisco in these threads is incorrect or unreasonable." -FuturePants
YOU'RE ALL ON "THE LIST!"
"i'm convinced every day i have less and less to live for " -TagDontTweet
Needs a boob job
"Don't argue with an idiot (JW); people watching may not be able to tell
the difference."
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Jul 23, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Ben's cousin?
I know you're still struggling to find your way in LSB but you'd probably feel more comfortable in one of the other threads that talks about
weather, fashion, video games, uniform colors, etc. . - Josey Wales 5/18/11
Maybe she has a rape fetish.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Todd Koffman on Twitter
Source I spoke to told me the #Rangers and #Giants are the two teams hot and heavy.
Well, Being 100 degrees the Rangers are most assuredly hot
and with Tommy Hunter in the bullpen, the heavy part is covered as well.
Torrealba must go.
Boom...
Sullivan_Ranger TR Sullivan
Adrian Beltre placed on 15-day disabled list, Chris Davis called up http://wp.me/p1rXwL-8VUX
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Andro
aandro Anthony Andro
Adrian Beltre is on the DL with a Grade 1 left hamstring strain. The Rangers have recalled Chris Davis from Round Rock.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Grade 1 is the lightest grade.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I'm guessing 3 weeks.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Next Angels series is August 15th.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
You'd want him to go to Frisco for a few days before throwing
him in the fire. Do not rush it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Sept 1
I know you're still struggling to find your way in LSB but you'd probably feel more comfortable in one of the other threads that talks about
weather, fashion, video games, uniform colors, etc. . - Josey Wales 5/18/11
Look again.
http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=tex#y=2011&m=8
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
yeh play it safe, can't have it arise again.
the good news is he’ll be well rested for the stretch/play-offs.
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
Yes that's my foot and no I don't have a wide stance.
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
The slightest.
The best possible type.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Grade 1s typically heal within 3 weeks from what I've read.
Can be shorter.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Maybe he can point at his hammy like Pujols did his broken wrist
and command the MOFO to heal.
Torrealba must go.
Put up or shut up time for vast segments of LSB that could never quit Chris Davis.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I like Chris Davis
I hope he does well enough to stick around this time
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
"For one, no, we fucking murdered you at basketball and Jesus and the Rapture isn’t going to save you from that shame, kid" -GoET
"I don’t think one thing I’ve said about Frisco in these threads is incorrect or unreasonable." -FuturePants
YOU'RE ALL ON "THE LIST!"
"i'm convinced every day i have less and less to live for " -TagDontTweet
yeah, we all do
Josey just being Josey here. I bet he’s posted some variation of this 50 times today.
by elvis1isking on Jul 23, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm surprised by that,
given the general reaction on LSB. Beltre is a tough dude, let’s see what happens…
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Whelp... Crush. Take advantage of these two weeks.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
yea, this is going to be interesting for him
two weeks isnt long, but he can show enough to keep himself up here.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
Betran for Hickory players...
Works for me.
But this team needs another starter. Here’s hoping the ninja is using Bell as a smoke screen to keep the competition away from a Garza or something.
Go Strangers.
"Hickory players"
Which ones?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
"Hickory players"
Which ones?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Double post fail.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Obviously not Jurickson.
But the rest of them? It’s basically positions of depth, whether it’s starters or position players.
This system is about depth, there’s room to expend some. JD just needs to protect the cream: Perez and Jurickson.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 23, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
There are some decent high upside guys there,
but I generally agree.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
really dont need another starter
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
I think I would much rather go after Clippard than Bell
Bell seems a little overrated and overpriced at this point. Plus Clippard we’d have past this year.
I trust JD to do the right thing.
"I've got a Harden!"
by ghostofPeterGardere on Jul 23, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Clippard, Adams, and Uehara...
are all better options than Bell imho.
Although I think Clippard and Adams would cost too much.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
And will cost significantly more.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Aren't the A's and Mariners bullpens ripe for the picking now?
a. they’re out of it.
b. they desperately need bats
can’t davis+ score someone like bailey or balfour?
by DaveHostetlersLoveChild on Jul 23, 2011 4:02 PM CDT reply actions
Not unless the plus includes players better than Davis.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
i said the same thing about beltran a month ago and AJM (along with others) disagreed
saying his lack of centerfieldness made it not worth it
I'm sure it was your brilliant talent of persuasion.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 23, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I do not understand trading for high profile closers
won’t you be paying a premium for Heath Bell because of the established’ness and saves?
You may recall that last year the Rangers played a few games versus the Giants. Those guys acquired Javier Lopez and Ramon Ramirez for a bunch of crap. They were insanely good the 2nd half + the playoffs.
Spending big on big named relievers, either in free agency or trades is a dangerous game IMO. Get the Lopez and and Ramirez of 2011 instead.
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- Eric Hosmer redefines the Baltimore chop with infield double (Video)
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- The Juice: Nelson Cruz matches career high eight RBIs, Pujols stays hot in Seattle
