Ken Rosenthal says the Rangers are primed to make some big moves
The headline on Fox Sports article is "All in". I assume that means Rosenthal expects the Rangers to land at least a couple of their targets. And then he closes with this: "The Rangers rarely are included in discussions of the sport's super-powers. But that won't be the case much longer."
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Goodbye, Erlin
We barely knew ye.
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Supah-Powah...
damn right they are.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Why oil?
Aren’t they out of that business now?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Simpson and Davis definitely are in that business.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I knew they were,
but I thought the reason they had ~$Texas was because they got bought out by Exxon?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
One sold his natural gas business/interests to Exxon for Exxon stock
So he still certainly has a huge interest in o/g stock.
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
Simpson's wealth came largely in the form of stock, I believe.
And I’m pretty sure he’s still the CEO of XTO Energy. Almost positive, actually.
Just as an aside— of the two people, ARod and Bob Simpson, who do you think made more last year in pure salary according to Forbes?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Ahh, I see.
I don’t know. It’s hard to figure ‘salary’ for billionaires.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
It was a bad question.
I was trying to phrase it in such a way that Simpson came out ahead, but it’s probably not true with ARod’s endorsements.
Forbes has Simpson’s “total compensation” for last year at $32.19 million.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Does Forbes count dividends and gains on sales in "compensation"?
"self policing" implies that the group will implement punishments based on violations of the group’s defined ethic. What are we gonna do? Make fun of someone until they quit the internet forever? - Bob Loblaw 7/21/2011
by Mike the Grate on Jul 26, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I have no idea.
I was just looking around for basic information on the XTO sale and came across Simpson’s Forbes profile.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I would think those types of items would push Simpson far above A-Rod, even when figuring in the endorsements.
"self policing" implies that the group will implement punishments based on violations of the group’s defined ethic. What are we gonna do? Make fun of someone until they quit the internet forever? - Bob Loblaw 7/21/2011
by Mike the Grate on Jul 26, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
i would doubt that they're in there
i expect only item he receives that would be included in his W-2. Dividend earnings, even if they’re from a company he works for, aren’t typically included in W-2’s
by kevinkinsler on Jul 26, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm guessing Simpson
For some reason I think Simpson was the one who started his business, paid himself nothing for years, but then became a whipping boy later when his company was giving him an ungodly salary.
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
If Ken Rosenthal were any more complimentary of the Rangers in this article
They would have to put up an “Are you 18?” disclaimer.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
ha! this article was easy to grasturbate to for sure.
"I think that Rangers is good team." ~ South Korean Ranger Nation
by hubcityraider on Jul 26, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
from the Duh file...
Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
Veteran personnel man said: “Don’t think all systems r created equal. If #Mets get 5th-best prospect from deep system like #Rangers it is like getting 2d-best prospect from a lot of systems”
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
How many systems would have Neil Ramirez as the #2 prospect?
Hmmm…
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure if this is the case for all but the worst of systems.
I do think that the Rangers 20th prospect could be the 12th prospect in a lot of other systems though.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Is Wieland top 5 in most system?
I know you're still struggling to find your way in LSB but you'd probably feel more comfortable in one of the other threads that talks about
weather, fashion, video games, uniform colors, etc. . - Josey Wales 5/18/11
I don't think so.
Some, sure, but you might be a Top 5 prospect in the Astros system right now.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
i dont know
alot of systems would have a b prospect in top 5
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
I think it's overly simplistic to label purely by letter grades.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
just saying that Weiland would fit within a top 5 in alot systems
and thinking in letter grades.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
I've probably underrated Wieland in his trip through our system so far.
Probably the same way I underrated what NeRa was doing early in the season.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Yeah,
hard to say with Ramirez being injured, but it may be true. I’m just not as confident about it.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
But he could have been, according to (I believe) Jim Callis.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Right, that's my point.
LSB had him as the 5th best prospect. That’s why I picked him. I s’pose you could say something similar for Olt, but that doesn’t seem to fit as well.
I don’t doubt that Erlin would be the second best prospect in some systems.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
not Houston?
Wouldn’t he be the TOP prospect in any system that didn’t have a guy in the BA Top 50 ranked higher than 37?
Jack Daddy
Ok,
*I don’t doubt that Erlin would be at least the second best prospect in some systems.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The Rangers don't work that way.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Yeah, bitches.
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
by Mike E on Jul 26, 2011 10:51 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs
This last line
The Rangers rarely are included in discussions of the sport’s super-powers. But that won’t be the case much longer.
Is freaking awesome.
it gave me a boner
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
brb, Kitchen.
Apologies to anyone that already posted this...
…but Thor is an impostor. Dirk is the true God of Thunder
by Steve Estep on May 23, 2011 9:46 PM PDT
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jul 26, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
This made me laugh on HBT this morining:
The Rangers "pushing hardest" for Carlos Beltran
“Because they’re clearly in need of offense,…”
DFA/Kill Knox.
That's what the baseball looks like after facing the Rangers offense.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hey Bear
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
Sic'em.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Considering the average attractiveness of a Baylor female,
I support this statement.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I supported it during my entire tenure... and beyond
If knowledge is power, why does Stephen Hawking need batteries?
and still support it whenever I can... or when i can get my wife drunk... or spike her nyquil lol
If knowledge is power, why does Stephen Hawking need batteries?
Two white cups and I got that drink
Could be purple, could be pink
Depending on how you mix that shit
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry I would have kept going, but I had a quick meeting
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 26, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
so many pearings
so little time.
Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011
I don't think Elvis is in the right spot in his lineup.
Ian Kinsler, 2B
Elvis Andrus, SS
Josh Hamilton, LF
Beltran, CF
Adrian Beltre, 3B
Michael Young, DH
Nelson Cruz, RF
Mike Napoli, C
Mitch Moreland, 1B
Seems like you would want Elvis in the 8th or 9th spot. I understand all the greatness of his bunting and base stealing, but I just don’t see how it makes up for Beltran’s much higher OBP. And, Beltran would be in LF, as we all know around here.
But, yeah, I love that lineup, especially for October.
Another blurb out there this morning that has me excited:
An executive from a team that has expressed interest in Beltran told Joel Sherman of the New York Post, “They are not getting a top-40-ranked prospect for Beltran even if they eat all the money [left on his contract].” Sherman’s article goes on to explain why the Mets will probably have to settle for less-than-elite prospects.
Rock the J2, JD!
ZOMG that last comment.
Gentlemen. We in bidness.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
The Rangers probably have 10-15 prospects in the 40-150 prospect level at a diversity of positions.
Lots of different ways to go for the Mets, if that’s all it takes.
Rock the J2, JD!
Why yes, Sandy,
you can have Luke Jackson, Luis Sardinas and Victory Payano for Carlos Beltran.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd do that trade
in a heartbeat
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
No shit.
They’ll want more, though.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, those three for Carlos Beltran?
You’re saying that’s not enough?
What am I missing here?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I don't know if more is the right word,
but I don’t think they’ll take a group of guys that far away.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Mets fans should dance in the street for that package for a 2 month rental.
Dance in the streets.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
You think?
I mean, we know the ceilings of those guys, but I’m not sure how much value Sardinas has right now. So that looks like 2 B- prospects and a C+ to me. That doesn’t seem right to you?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy mother of God do I hate the grade ranking system for prospects.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Sorry.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is that?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
oh, you don't like Sickels grading system
but you don’t want to assign $ value to prospects (a Latin equivalent scale) or use relative draft positions.
Just lots of angst towards how other people rank players.
I actually really like grades
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
That specific conversation about LA players
Was more about ranking them because of money against guys in the draft, not necessarily against each other. I have problems ranking them against each other, too, but you’re oversimplifying the point I was making in that argument. Draft positions I’m more comfortable with, though that has obvious flaws, too.
My problem with the grade ranking system is that it is used in too small a scale. If you really wanted to convey information, you’d go beyond the grades you typically see in Sickels’ system. He ranks almost everyone as an A, B, C, or D with minuses thrown in. I think there are probably many more levels than that.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I'm just teasing, really.
I like the Sickels scale because I generally think of guys in terms of tiers. Within each tier there are guys who are better or worse (+’s and -’s), but really I think it is okay to think about As, Bs, and Cs.
I think Perez, Profar, and Martin are the A’s
I think Erlin down through Loux, LuJack, and Alfaro are the B’s
and I think Ross and below are the C’s. The Rangers have a lot of guys in the B-/C+ range…
You get a lot of Cs, fewer Bs, and not many As. Works for me.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I don't think it is a great package by any means
that is one of those deals where there is a decent chance that not one guy ever makes it to the majors. Teams don’t usually make that type of deal.
That said, Sandy is pretty bright, and may recognize that stocking up on high ceiling talent is the way to go, and he’s only getting high ceiling stuff if he goes with guys way out there.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
That's how I read the most recent comments.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
probably more like
Tommy Hunter, Justin Grimm, Tyler Tufts, and Alejandro Selen
Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011
Yeah
That package should be plenty
Now if they want guys more advanced or in the upper minors then that might not work but I have a hard time imagining many teams beating that package for Beltran
yeah
if they want someone more advanced, swap out LuJack for a more senior guy (Ross, Loux?). But whatever…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
That's what I think happens.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
not a huge Sherman fan
but the article was pretty spot on.. seems like he is trying to let the masses know that the likelihood of getting a major prospect is nil and hopefully it keeps them from burning down the stadium…
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
I think Mendez, too.
Mendez, Engel Beltre, and someone like Robbie Ross.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Say Wieland instead of Ross.
Now what?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
still would
but yeah adding in Wieland at least makes me pause.
Or go Wieland, Beltre, Ross… though really I’d rather keep Wieland and deal Mendez (ceiling understood).
by elvis1isking on Jul 26, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Would that really make any difference?
JD pulls the trigger on that just as quick as the other proposal
Wieland > Ross, so it should make some difference.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
But Weiland is no difference maker IMO
Hes a nice prospect but just the type you hope to develop and sell off to other clubs. Especiall with the stable of high upside guys we have in the pipeline we dont need to be fretting over losing a mid rotation ceiling guy for a impact player on the ML club.
Where would y'all place Mendez on the A through C scale?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Considering I hate that scale, I have no idea.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I was thinking B-,
but I’m unsure.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I say that because I feel like he's really starting to put it together
Split Statistics with Hickory in 2011
Split …. IP…. TBF…BB/PA… K/PA ….. BABIP…. GB%…. ERA
July … 28.0…114…7.0%…… 29.8%… .318…….. 30%….. 1.61
Ah, didn't see the latest.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Mmm... that K% and BB%
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Can't keep 'em all...
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
No.
In fact, I want Mendez tradeded so we don’t lose him in Rule 5.
Because if we do trade him, we’ll get something that helps the 2011 club.
I love prospects… but I’m not a hoarder. It’s a delicate balance.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
The first step is admitting you have a problem...
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
*traded.
Tradeded? Wow.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Adam J. Morris
You should read this article:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/outfield-help-shouldnt-be-priority-for-texas/
It basically says that Endy Chavez should probably be the MVP over Jose Bautista.
That's not what it says.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
No
but it does say that Endy Chavez probably doesn’t suck and will go on to still have a decent season if he comes back down to earth
What's your deal with me this morning?
You seem quite confrontational towards me.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
This was a stupid question.
One of those times where I wish LSB had a delete button.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
by Aqua on Jul 26, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Reading right now
and growing very disappointed in Carson.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
What's the problem with the article?
Not the greatest SABR mind here but what he’s concluding seems backed up. I.e. Gentry/Chavez haven’t been bad at all.
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
It ended ok,
but he should know better than to even half-heartedly attempt a linear extrapolation based on such a small and weird sample size.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
and then only go on to assume high BABIPs
when he could just have easily put it in there
by kevinkinsler on Jul 26, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
2 seasons worth of PA spread out over 4 years?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I mean
weird sample would suggest that he’s cherry picking or using a weird split. I guess it is bad for extrapolation but it is the largest sample available, no?
No, then I would have called it a biased sample and savaged him.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually
now that I did the individual per year calculations, I guess you can say that by going back to 2006, he is helping out the WAR calculation a lot (2008 and 2009, he is a 2.5 extrapolated over a full season). That’s obviously a lot worse than 3.7
But that sample size argument works both ways. How are people so convinced that Chavez “sucks” when there just isn’t a great sample over the last 5 years to determine anything definitively. I guess I am confident in saying that he’s not going to continue his torrid pace but I also don’t know that I should expect him to regress to the 2.0 WAR player (over a season) that everyone expects him to be.
And actually
never mind. The main issue seems to be from using WAR instead of just looking at his offensive numbers, which does show a definitive track record of being below average.
Yes.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know about predictingthe rest of the season offensive production from those guys
but defensively they have been outstanding, and I think the drop-off we will see with a Beltran/Hamilton/Cruz OF is being severely underrated.
Wow, agreed!
I love seeing Hamilton in left field, Cruz in right, and I don’t think that is the lineup if Beltran is acquired. I suspect it would be Hamilton in Center, Cruz in left and Beltran in right, and that seems like an out of position outfield.
Nah.
Hamilton plays a passable CF.
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by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
The lineup isn't better with Beltran?
So you think Chavez/Gentry >= Beltran?
really?
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 26, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the thing people are missing is that if we acquired Beltran, it most likely wouldn't be a move made to help solidify the division this year.
So the likelihood of a Cruz-Hamilton-Beltran outfield day-in and day-out during the regular season is not high.
It’s the same response to the “we don’t need to upgrade our OF, look at how well Gentry and Chavez are doing!”
This move wouldn’t be made for the regular season, it would be made for the postseason with 5 and 7-game series in mind. In that situation, the likelihood of a defensive dropoff would probably be outweighed by the offensive improvement from that alignment.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
But where does Beltran play during the regular season?
Unless the Rangers are extra cautious with this Beltre injury and keep him out until September I don’t see how you would fit both Beltran and Young into the lineup on a consistent basis. Unless that means Moreland gets bumped to a more bench type role and Young plays 1B more often which I could see happening given how Mitch has performed the last 6 weeks or so.
It just means Hamilton plays more CF probably
a combo of Gentry/Chavez/Moreland lose their playing time
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 26, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
OK
But Aqua said
So the likelihood of a Cruz-Hamilton-Beltran outfield day-in and day-out during the regular season is not high.
Which is why I ask where would he play?
I guess you could go with hamilton in CF 2 days a week with Beltran in LF. Beltran DH 2 days a week with Young at 1B. And then Beltran can give Hamilton and Cruz a day off every other week which would give everyone sufficient playing time just a lot of moving parts
Once in the playoffs I agree that we will see Beltran/Hammy/Cruz as our every game OF as we should.
The big losers, probably, would be Chavez/Gentry and Mitch Moreland.
I suspect you’d see Beltran play 6 out of 7 games in RF with Cruz and Hamilton rotating through the DH spot liberally. That means more Michael Young at 1B at Mitch Moreland’s expense.
On the days where Hamilton plays LF and Cruz DH’s, Chavez/Gentry plays CF. The same with days where Hamilton DH’s.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
When you say Chavez/Gentry,
I assume you mean that one of them is leaving and that we wouldn’t still have a platoon, right?
With such limited playing time, you'd have to think it would be just one.
And the platoon would be taken into consideration.
I highly doubt that the Rangers would jettison Chavez with the tear he’s been on, but I’d probably keep Gentry because he’s more flexible as a pinch runner, defensive substitution, and he’s right-handed.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I thought Gentry as well
but no way the gut lets that happen
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It has to be just one
also because of bench construction. The Rangers will not have 6 strictly OFers on the 25, especially when there is also an IFer who can play the OF in a pinch.
Start makin' em!
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
We're still 5 days from the deadline.
Let prices go down.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
seriously.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Would you?
Five clubs are “in play” for B.J. Upton, source says. #Rays
If Martin,Profar/Perez are not in the deal would you do a 3 or 4 for 1 on Upton and keep Hamilton in LF?
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
I don't see any way you get him without trading one of those guys.
I’d rather go short term with Beltran and then move Martin into the starting lineup sometime next spring.
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by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess it depends on what TB is really wanting...
I am not sure that any of the teams that would be in on Upton would be willing to go all in with true A prospects at this point..
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Washington.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Top heavy system
Harper and Rendon aren’t getting dealt… They have a lot of B level guys… but no A guys they can really move
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Is going to be a 2.5-3.0 WAR guy
with good/great CF D and stands a chance of doubling that if he can get his head straight…
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
I think we've got a 2.5-3.0 WAR guy playing at AAA right now.
Who can probably fit the “chance of doubling that if his bat plays.”
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by Aqua on Jul 26, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I want no part of Upton
I just get the feeling that he’s always going to be a player with upside never realized
I'm not convinced Upton would be a significant upgrade over what we have right now.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Why pay Martin $15mm
then relinquish so much talent for Upton?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jul 26, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Following this thread
And the free agency thread at Blogging the Boys speaks volumes for the difference in quality of the two front offices.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
I was thinking about this.
The Rangers and Mavs are thought of has having good front offices…and then there’s the Cowboys.
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by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd argue the Stars have a good one too
Or, it’s much improved. We won’t see the results from it until a year or so from now, though.
by DFWTrojanTuba on Jul 26, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't really follow them enough to know one way or another.
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by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Joe's had to make some tough decisions over the last year and a half
Letting Modano go was one of them. Firing Crow with one year left on his contract was another one, even though the Stars missed the playoffs by two points.
I also like what he did in the draft this year, and hopefully Jack Campbell and Scott Glennie, our previous two first-rounders before Jamie Oleksiak this year, develop well in the AHL (Campbell’s still needs more time before he moves to the AHL), and make big strides with the Stars once they’re ready.
by DFWTrojanTuba on Jul 26, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
might need to stroll on over
and see that train wreck… not a huge NFL guy, but the condensed FA period will make it interesting to say the least.
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
There was a fanpost called "Mythbusters - Cowboys Edition."
Nobody posted “The Cowboys are still America’s Team – Confirmed” until I did. I was genuinely shocked. It’s the easiest one.
by DFWTrojanTuba on Jul 26, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Cardinals said to be widely shopping Rasmus
Are we still in love with Rasmus?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Seems like the price on rasmus would be awfully
high. Im assuming Rasmus would be acquired to play CF, right?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 26, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like they want major league players?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
And we're chock full of 'em!
I present to you:
Borbon, Julio (Cards CF of the future)
Holland, Derek (Cards Mark Mulder of the future)
Davis, Chris (sorry bout losing Pujols, guys…consolation prize!)
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Dont they would accept that
but if they would, i do it in a second.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 26, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't think they'd accept that. I was just joking around with ghettobear
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
They would probably come back and say that they want Leonys as their CF of the future.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
So if you
subbed in leonys and they agreed (doubt they would), would you pull the trigger?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 26, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Not for that price.
I don’t think the difference between Rasmus and Leonys is Derek Holland. At least not for this team.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
They at the very least want a ML pitcher.
Not sure what else they would target.
But, the Rangers have it all, so… Just a matter of whether they would be more interested in Beltran or Rasmus. The payoff from Beltran this year versus the potential to replace Hamilton or Nellie with Rasmus.
Rock the J2, JD!
x
Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
Exec interested in Beltran said #Mets price today is different than 2 weeks ago, not shooting for sky as much. Exec said: (cont)
Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
“They’re not ready to settle, but are ready to think more ultimately about what return they actually will get.” #Mets
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
x
Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
Same exec: “It doesn’t matter how good Alderson does, only so much can get for CB for 2 months. They’ll get good return, not headline” #Mets
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
im thinking
Joe Wieland, Payano, and a filler guy. Perhaps im shooting too low?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 26, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Wieland may go
and ultimately may make it a good trade for the Mets.
If his SO rates can maintain themselves in the upper minors, decent enough chance he turns into a nice starting pitcher for someone.
by elvis1isking on Jul 26, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I really think he is
going to be a guy the Rangers attempt to use to “headline” a trade. I think they view him as a solid no. 3 guy who could slide to a solid no. 4 but not necessarily an ace or no. 2 type.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 26, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
That's fantastic
They’re not ready to settle, but are ready to think more ultimately about what return they actually will get
“OK guys – I know this is thinking outside of the box. But what if we stopped with the fucking pipe dreams for a minute?”
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
by WyoRanger on Jul 26, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But the pipes are so damn shiny...
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
hmmm
ProfessorParks Jason Parks
I wouldnt be surprised if the #Rangers were paying close attention to the Colby Rasmus market. #Cards have always loved LHP Martin Perez
Personally?
No. Not with Leonidas ready within the year.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Rasmus wouldn't be a CF long term solution.
His numbers in CF haven’t looked all that impressive.
I’m thinking he would be thought of as heir-apparent to Hamilton or Nellie.
Rock the J2, JD!
Yeah,
but I don’t like the idea of trading away Cruz to make room for Rasmus.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Hamilton?
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
This all smacks of Fantasy Baseball GM-ing.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
The Hamilton question bothers me...
Outside of any Rasmus discussions.
I am very wary of giving him any long term guaranteed money.
I also think there is zero chance we trade him in the middle of a season unless we collapse and are clearly sellers at the deadline [which I don’t expect for next year].
So our choice is… trade him this off season… sign him for long term money… let him go and collect the picks [and his value for 2012].
Picking up Rasmus for the playoff run in 2011 and having a viable option for the future would make it far more palatable to try and flip Hamilton in the off season.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I don't think anybody is going to give Hamilton 6 years.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
What deal would you be comfortable giving him.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
max I would offer him is 4 yrs.
w/ relapse protection of course. Now the dollar amount, I have no idea.
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Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Is 4 years possibly enough?
Depends on what his 2012 looks like.
But if he has a healthy 2012 with Hamilton level numbers… He’ll get at least 5… and possibly 6.
Werth got 7 years.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
its probably not enough
I just don’t think you can risk signing him to a 5 yr deal then after year 3 he’s injured all the time.
What do you think? Should they be actively trying to trade him so they don’t have to make that decision?
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Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
I think they should consider it this off season.
But that’s extremely unlikely.
I think he’ll play out his contract… we’ll make an offer that that is JD smart… Josh will either accept or go elsewhere.
I doubt the Rangers will offer the biggest contract to keep him though.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
thats the most likely scenario
I’m glad its JD and not me to have to figure that out.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
I think
if you want to be an elite organization, you don’t trade your best player in the middle of his prime for any reason.
I think JD will pay the money for the kudos. Especially if C.J. leaves in the offseason
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
good point
the PR hit would be huge if he was traded
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Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Hamilton will be older
And Werth didn’t have anywhere near the injury history (or the personal history) that Josh has had
Both he and his agent have to know that is going to have some effect on his FA negotiations the question is if there is some team who is willing to throw a big number of guaranteed years at him he will likely take it
Hamilton will be 31 when his contract expires.
Werth was 31 when he signed his deal this winter. Werth turned 32 in May.
Werth doesn’t quite have Hamilton’s history… but he’s not exactly Cal Ripken either.
If Werth can get 7 years… Hamilton will want 5-6 at least.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Hmm I thought Hamilton would be 32....my bad
And I agree hamilton will want 5-6 years and if some teams offers him that then its going to suck seeing him leave.
But I don’t think any team is going to offer that. I think his offers will all come with options attached to his health.
Going into his Age 32 season (05/21/81)
You’re paying for 32-38 with a 6 year deal with a guy who has serious questions regarding his ability to play a full year.
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by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Werth went into his age 32 season this year.
They are the same age in terms of Free Agency period. Werth is 5/79
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Also...
The main point for bringing up Werth is… if Hamilton his the open market… I think he will sign a deal that people will be shocked by.
Who predicted that Werth would get what he did?
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Possibly.
It’s just so hard to say. I do think the Rangers will be favorites to land him, I’m just hoping it’s not for 5 guaranteed years.
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by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
i hope you're wrong
but some stupid GM is gonna go all out to sign him prolly
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
I just looked at Werth's statistics....
holy shit he’s been fairly terrible.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Yeah,
that one’s a bit off.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
It only takes one crazy GM.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I think
he signs an extension before he ever hits the free agent market.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
i hope you're right
but if its for 6/96…..Rangers are going to regret it.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Totally different.
Injury history plus the known drug abuse.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It is different...
But it isn’t 7 years vs 4 years different.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
It might be 7 vs. 5 + another year or two of player option
different.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Why are we comparing Josh Hamilton and Jason Werth
I don’t see any comparison in skill level or production
We arent comparing the players
We are comparing the contracts Werth got in FA and what Hamilton could expect to get.
When doing so you have to compare them a little bit but I don’t believe we are comparing the two completely
If I'm Hamilton's agent I'm asking way over Werth's contract
and agreeing to any sort of relapse verbage
fuck the Nat's for giving Werth that contract
seriously
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
I dont think relapse is the thing thats going to worry teams
Its his injury history and the fact he cant be counted on to play a full season.
I wouldn’t guarantee any more than 3-4 years for him. I would include several option years that vested based on PAs and make those numbers relatively easy to obtain.
If some team goes out and guarantees Josh 6 or 7 years then hes gone and I will applaud the FO for not giving in to the pressure to match that kind of offer.
Do a 3 or 4 year guarantee deal with options and I think Josh and the Rangers would be all over that
I would do a 3 year deal with option for 4 and 5 years based on PAs
Whether he would do that or not I don’t know
That would also work.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he does that
You’d probably have to guarantee 4 years
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
You're probably right
Or you could make the PA clause fairly obtainable even if he does go on the Dl for a limited period of time. Something like 450 or 500 PA’s. Something where he would have to have a serious injury to not have the option vest which is really what you want to be concerned about as a club signing Hamilton. I think he could come close to justifying a big deal even if he only plays 75% of the time.
4 years,
PA min for last year/last two years
$22M AAV.
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by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
You think he'd sign that?
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I think he's going to want 5-6 at $25M
Just off the top of my head.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Moreover,
you have to consider the clubhouse dynamic a little bit.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Yeah
but there’s a difference between trading a good, aging player with a bad contract to trading your best player
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
We'd have to get return that helped us immediately.
We couldn’t do it for a prospect haul.
And it’s still unlikely to happen no matter what. It’s tough to sell to your team or your fans trading someone like Josh Hamilton.
But I think the most probable course is that he leaves in FA.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I think
he works out an extension that we all think is too long.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Seems the most likely path, to me.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't say it was the main thing to consider,
but I don’t see how trading away a noted hard worker and guy who meshes with the clubhouse to bring in a worse player with questions regarding whether he’ll ever reach his ceiling is a good thing.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just liked be able to copy and paste your sig.
I was about to type something up as a reply and your sig jumped out at me.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Yeah, it was a nice touch.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Hamilton
is the player that contributes to winning with his talent and is a big hit with the fans because of his personality.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I have a mildly irrational dislike of him.
When I watch him play baseball… he’s the most amazing player I’ve ever seen in person [never saw Bonds].
When I hear him speak… well… I’m glad he has physical ability.
The injury mess makes me terrified we’ll give him the Mike Young Special.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
You dislike him because he seems unintelligent?
Or is it his Jesusfreakiness?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
At his MVP press conference last November...
He asked a reporter what the device in his hand was. He didn’t recognize it.
It was an iPhone.
The Jesus stuff doesn’t bother me. Plenty of athletes and people like that.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Really?
Not knowing what an iphone is what pisses you off?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
He doesn't piss me off...
I just would never put him among my favorite Rangers. I love what he does on the field.
I have more than a handful of junkies in my family. I’m happy for Josh that he turned his life around… but I personally have a hard time fully putting my confidence in someone who has had a past like him too.
I’m by no means “HATE JOSH”… just a mild dislike.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Why do you hate Jay-sus?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
So it's because he's unintelligent and/or ignorant.
I’m not sure you can fault him for those things, if indeed they are even true.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
See my response to FBIII
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Ooooooo...
Good point.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
And really... I don't hate the guy at all.
I truly hope he continues on his path and I’m amazed by how good at baseball he is.
I’m happy that a big part of his success in his mind is his ability to help others.
But my favorite player is CJ from a personality standpoint… the witty, straight-edge guy who loves fast cars and is a libertarian.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
This actually makes me like him more...
“At his MVP press conference last November…
He asked a reporter what the device in his hand was. He didn’t recognize it.
It was an iPhone."
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 26, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
That's actually a really weird thing to have stick in someone's mind
The fact a guy didn’t know what an iPhone was? And then to sorta hold it against him. That’s a weird grudge.
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
Not a grudge at all.
Just shows that Josh Hamilton and I are two VERY different people.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I dislike people that are different from me, too.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I knew you hated me.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
See LSJ.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Yeah, because THAT is why he and I don't get along.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
You ARE two very different people.
With completely different priorities, beliefs and lives.
And I don’t dislike Josh Hamilton 1/1000th of how you react to LSJ.
I stated that I have a mild irrational dislike of Josh Hamilton.
He makes me face palm on occasion when I hear him in interviews… I don’t feel like I can relate to him in almost anyway.
I wish him well and enjoy rooting for him on the Rangers. Aside from the risk of tying up long term money in a fragile player with his history, I’d enjoy seeing him play his entire career here.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Really?
We’ve gone this long and nobody has brought up 1-2%?
This is actually the feeling in practice!
It has more to do with his drug / alcohol past
And my lack of those things when it comes down to it.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
so I can kind of see where you are coming from
in a way… but that impression I have really covers all athletes. I was the opposite of a star athlete growing up, and I don’t really see eye to eye on things with them. Just different worlds.
So, I don’t really have any interest in following guys on twitter, on watching their interviews, or caring about what they endorse.
Nevertheless, I love watching them play. And I love watching Josh Hamilton play more than just about any other athlete in the sport. He makes baseball fun to watch.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I feel the way you've described
About most athletes.
Josh is a bit different. Maybe it’s because he is so talented and valuable to the franchise…
And as I’ve said… I love watching Josh play. It’s like he plays a different game than everyone else.
I just wouldn’t ever own his jersey.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
What about him makes you facepalm?
And how is my history with LSJ, a person with whom I have had probably an undefined amount more interaction than you have with Josh (because that number would be zero) even relevant?
Lash back out at me and get defensive if you want to, but it doesn’t change anything about your reaction to Josh Hamilton, which you’ve admitted is based solely on interviews and hearing him speak. Not anything that he actually does.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Quick response
Then a longer one.
I’m not lashing back out at you at all. Don’t read my words as harsh… at all. I’m not upset at Aqua in the slightest.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Okay...
Slightly longer.
I qualified it in the very beginning as “irrational”.
I’ve tried to explain what it is about him that makes him feel… “off” to me.
I only brought up LSJ because that’s the first thing that came to mind when you said
“I dislike people that are different from me, too.”
Not to be defensive… just that in practice you and LSJ are VERY VERY different. The thought of LSJ in a career providing for a wife and child…. that is not LSJ. It was sort of a chuckle comparison because you do dislike him and you are different.
Obviously the comparison between me [a fan] and Josh [someone I don’t know and only see a certain view of based on the media, etc] is VERY VERY different than the years of interaction of you and LSJ.
The point of me bringing up my irrational mild dislike of Josh Hamilton is that I’m acknowledging that it probably colors my opinions of what the Rangers should do with him long term.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Yeah, I kind of like that about him
I hate people who walk aroudn waving their iPhones aroudn like it is some sort of status symbol.
Put your phone away and just drive / walk / shop / whatever and get out of my way.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
That's
pretty much what you accuse of someone like GB of doing. Your dislike of him is based on stuff that has very little to do with the baseball diamond. That’s a bad way of making decisions.
Especially since Josh seems like a genuinely nice guy while COlby Rasmus seem like a bit of a douche. And by “a bit of”, I mean “a laughably huge” douche.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I'm not really accusing GB of anything.
And I do think Josh is a nice guy… he just makes me nervous.
My worst nightmare is that we give him some massive extension of 6 years / 130m for a guy we never get a full season out of.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Which seems
as productive as everyone worrying about Adrian Beltre’s contract.
I don’t think Josh gets over 100 million, though I can see him getting the 6/96 that Beltre got.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
So if Josh demands 0.96% more that's going to be the breaking point?
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
I think your percentages are off there.
100 is about 4% higher than 96.
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
I think we'll sign him after 2012 to a team-friendly deal.
We’re going to get a bible-belt discount.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Doubt the discount part.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Bible-Belt Discount (tm). Book it.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Maybe on AAV, but not years.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't like that deal at all.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Even if it's Marteen and fodder?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
It makes someone in whom we just made a sizeable investment basically useless.
And trades our premium pitching prospect.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Not entirely useless. Leonys could be flipped too. I just don't know what kind of value he has as trade bait.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I suspect
he has very good value as trade bait. Polished CFer who is a top 50 prospect as well. Im torn between pursuing Rasmus or Beltran. Of course it all depends on the price.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 26, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The difference in price will be substantial, to say the least.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Yeah i know
but im just not sold on Rasmus. I know the SSS and all but Rasmus hasnt been that great in CF defensively this year at all.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 26, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He has to be a PTBNL for another year.
That hurts his value quite a bit.
by LiamP on Jul 26, 2011 1:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He cant even be traded until this winter and then he would have to be a PTBNL
He couldn’t join his new club until one year after he signed with us so it would be into next season before he played with his new club
Are you sure about this?
He signed as an international free agent. Where is the rule that says they can’t be traded immediately?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
bigsteve quoted it a week or two ago.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I'm not sure he is, but I don't know what he is if he isn't.
If that makes sense.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Either Klaw or Callis tweeted same thing
One year from sign date.
by LiamP on Jul 26, 2011 2:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
What do you plan on doing with Leonys
you gave him 15M to be your CFer of the future and he is primed to start moving in that direction
"It was like the movie Die Hard. The guy gets shot in the leg, he’s limping around and he still throws the bad guy down the elevator shaft. I was about to throw an eephus pitch."-CJ Wilson
Josey Wales is stupid
Trade Josh Hamilton in the off season.
Move Rasmus to LF.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I briefly considered the option of moving Rasmus to another position.
I don’t know enough about his ability to play another position.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
You don't move the actual awesome of Josh Hamilton
for the potential awesome of Colby Rasmus.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Yeah. I don't get the argument of trading Hamilton.
I’m thinking more in terms of having some coverage in the even that the Rangers and Hamilton are not able to find a long-term deal that is comfortable to both.
Rock the J2, JD!
Was fixing to post that....
I would rather have Beltran for 3 months, with Leoyns waiting in the wings for next year
by TxSportsFan on Jul 26, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I would not do that
If perez headlined a deal for Rasmus I wouldnt be too happy. If Erlin did? I MAY be able to accept that. Of course matters who else is involved.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 26, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Hrm.
Borbon, Erlin and…Hunter? I don’t want to trade Holland =(
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
we are all kind of forgetting that Hunter actually may have more value to other teams than the Rangers at this point. Totally forgot about big game.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 26, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt they do that though.
Maybe if you add Scheppers. Even then…
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
I really think that that Rangers are going to deal from their depth more so than from their top tier (Perez, Profar, Erlin, and Martin). I really believe that they will try to a quantity trade more than top tier quality. Like we will give you 4 very solid prospects instead of Perez and one very solid prospect and a young lower level “lottery ticket”
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 26, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
He'd look so good in the D'Backs red and black and whatever the fuck other colors they have in that hideous uniform
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Tommy Hunter for Justin Upton?
Who says no?
You think we need to throw in Erlin? I feel like you think we need to throw in Erlin.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
I think throwing in David Murphy is fair. I mean they will need another OFer.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 26, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see why we can't trade Endy straight up for Rasmus.
/Carson Cistulli
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
by Brad on Jul 26, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It would suck of Martin Perez had to be a part of a deal for Rasmus, because the Cards certainly want immediate ML SP.
That means Holland+Perez at a minimum.
Rock the J2, JD!
Erlin and Hunter
and a third piece, like a Mendonca.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
fuck all that
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
What?
You wouldn’t do that for Rasmus?
Really?
I would break landspeed records on how fast I got the paperwork turned in if the Cards agreed to that.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
This.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Maybe he meant
Not with Mr.Pearez included?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't Mendonca be a fifth piece instead of a third?
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
i misunderstoood......i thought Perez would have been included as well
if its just Erlin, Hunter, and Mendoca then sign me up now !
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
I would have to collect myself for a moment to keep from screaming out of pure fucking joy.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
You wouldn't deal Erlin, Hunter, and Mendonca for Rasmus?
“Fuck all that”?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
i thought Perez would have been included as well
nevermind. nothing to see here, carry on.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Think about this
the Cardinals could have a rotation of Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez and Perez.
I’m more scared than I was after my first horror movie.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. If you've got ideas of any kind, I would love for you to run them by me.
/nationalleagueproblems
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I dont know why
we are even discussing this. The Yankees will get Jimenez and Street for Montero.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
I know. It really sucked when they got Cliff Lee from the Mariners.
It sucked even more when they signed him in the off season.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
:-)
I dont have the pure unadulterated hate that some people have for the yankees but boy do I love it when they dont get what they want, what they think they are entitled to.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 26, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
They still think they are entitled to Felix
and don’t understand why the M’s don’t trade him for Montero.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
its that fucking entitlement that gets under my skin
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
OT: Somebody ask Chuck Morgan about his dripping wet pants in the 1st inning?
He was just on the Ticket. Er…Sports Radio 1310 the Ticket.
Well....
I thought it was from the heat. I am getting old, maybe I need to take another reading. Maybe I am hydrating way too much in the pre game.
Seriously, having been here a long time and like many of you have sunk my heart and soul into this franchise, really great to read things that you have never seen in 30 years about this team and organization.
Have some fun.
Thanks
Chuck
by chuckranger83 on Jul 26, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Always, Chuck.
Always.
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Thanks for fighting the good fight against the Wave
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by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 26, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I should mention if you're still here.
An LSBer posted an pic on facebook of an image you use to stop the wave.
Supraspinatus is misspelled. It’s missing that second s. Infraspinatus is correct though.
Awesome graphic.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
nerd
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Not so serious question
Is Weiland the next Bourbon?
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!
"He’s a Ranger, we’re Rangers." -bigtill2002
what does that even mean?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Nothing significant.
It just seems that both names are commonly misspelled.
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!
"He’s a Ranger, we’re Rangers." -bigtill2002
Cubs have consistently said no
to player under contract for next year.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Joel Sherman:
Feeling from execs is #Rockies want to find trade for Jimenez #Yankees, #Redsox #Reds calling. Surprise is #Bluejays kicked tires (cont)
#Mets talking 2- and 3-prospect deals with #Rangers #Redsox #Giants,#Braves #Phillies and, yes, #Brewers keep calling, too
JD is ninja'ing
Ninja’s don’t call Joel Sherman and say what they’re up to.
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
heh....I bet you anything Rockies won't talk about a deal w/out Perez being the central pc outside Holland
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Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
eh
Perez is probably a better piece than anything they can expect to get from the Yankees (outside Montero), Red Sox or Reds. I mean, do the Red Sox even have any high end young prospects? They’d probably have to trade Buchholz for him…
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
The Red Sox system is sneaky good, I think.
But they don’t have the impact prospects you’d seek in a trade for a guy like Ubaldo.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
they always have solid depth
but their two premium type guys were Kelly and Rizzo, and they already dealt them to SD (and they weren’t exactly premium). Renauldo is good, but I can’t imagine that the Rockies would want a package built around him
The real advantage Texas has that these other teams don’t is that if it came to it, they could give Colorado a legit major league starter in either Harry or Holland. What major league players do the Reds, Yankees, or Red Sox have to spare?
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Nova.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
do the Yankees really have him to spare though?
and, like my point below, if the Yankees are easily willing to part with him, wouldn’t you much rather have Harrison or Holland?
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I would.
I agree the Rangers can offer the best package, I’m just not positive that they will end up doing so.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess my argument
is that even your suggestion yesterday: Holland, Davis, Erlin, NeRa – is probably better than any of those teams can put together. Holland is almost certainly preferable to Nova. I guess the Yankees COULD put Banuelos and Montero in the deal, but that just doesn’t seem likely.
Basically, I think the Rangers could probably beat anyone’s deal and still keep their top trinity in tact if they wanted to. Now, Texas may prefer to deal Perez than both NeRa and Erlin. Who knows. But you can’t just look at the pitcher and the Rangers system alone – you also have to look at what other interested parties could put together.
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Yeah, we'll see.
I still can’t believe he’s really available.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I still don't really believe it yesterday
but I had a dream last night that the Rangers traded for Ubaldo and we all got a bottle of purple hair spray called “Frazzle” as a result.
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I would spray all over myself.
And the rest of LSB.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
if that asking price doesn't come down then Rangers aren't gonna get Ubaldo
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Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
do you know that is the asking price?
and I’d argue if the Rockies expect a top 10 prospect, then they probably aren’t going to trade him to anyone…
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I don't know...but I have a feeling it is for a top 10 prospect
otherwise what is their motivation to trade him?
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Um,
have we figured out if that recently-oft-cited source is accurate at all?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
i can't open that at work
what is the reasoning on that?
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Oh, well if Middlebrook says so
That makes it true
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 26, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't trust BBTiA folk.
They’re too handsome.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I just wanted to pass this along
to ya’ll because he is about the only one to trust about all of these rumors
but what does it mean "don't like Martin Perez"
I’m not going to listen to the podcast. But of course teams can like players more or less than average. If it means they’d prefer Banuelos over Perez or something along those lines, that is a lot different than viewing Perez the way LSB viewed Matt Harrison before this year.
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
That's horseshit.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Wait is this Todd Kaufman's place?
I’m not buying it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I think a lot of people are down on Montero.
Where to play him?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't see anyone wanting him as the centerpiece
while some people (like BA) love him to death, you have to wonder if the Yankees, who have a long-term need at catcher, would be willing to trade him. He’s one of those guys who so clearly fits the organization he’s on that if that org was willing to trade him you’d be a bit skeptical…
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
They have Romine.
It’s kind of like the Cincy situation with catching prospects, I think.
Still, if you don’t think he’s a catcher, what do you do with him? Especially if you’re an NL team…
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
The Brewers have NOTHING to give.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Saw this over at NBC Sports:
Jimenez hasn’t been nearly as dominant this season as he was in 2010, but the right-hander is under contract through 2014 at a reasonable rate and the Colorado farm system isn’t exactly flush with pitching talent.
except he won't be under contract through 2014 if he's traded...
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
As former LSB great Melmart said once last season
The Rangers no longer just play with the big boys, they ARE the big boys.
I miss melissa
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I still talk to her quite a bit on Twitter
But that’s about it
by The Best Micah on Jul 26, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
I talk to her there every now and then and we are fb friends.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Shits about to get real
Ninja is getting ready to blow up everyone’s twitter feed with something big.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Still a bit early for the craziness to ramp up, I think.
Maybe another 24-48 hours.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
that's okay though
LSB can keep heading over to Fangraphs and laying down the law about discussing the Rangers while we wait…
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I'm going to link this here,
because apparently even a RyinA production can’t get it front paged:
http://www.bbtia.com/home/2011/7/25/rangers-trade-targets-the-relievers.html
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Fun
I think I’d rank them Bell>Nunez>Uehara>Bailey, factoring in expected cost. I’m not as wary of Bell as the conventional wisdom seems to be, and I also don’t think he’ll end up being as expensive as has been discussed (because of that conventional wisdom, and because it doesn’t seem like the market for him got as heated as the Beltran market did).
Nunez I think will cost more, and I’d just as soon worry just about this year. Uehara… meh. As for Bailey, he has too much of an injury history for me to commit anything substantial for him. If he cost the same as Bell, then sure. But he won’t, so give me Bell.
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I'm curious how Uehara has such a crazy K/9
despite a fastball with such mediocre velo.
My concern with Nunez is how much the Marlins will ask for him.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, I'd agree with both
Sometimes with these relievers you have to wonder about peripherals. If Philkid was around, he could spit out the number of innings it takes for k/9 to stabilize, but I can imagine that it is way more than the number of innings we’ve seen from these guys. While you’d rather it to err on the high side, sometimes you have to use some common sense – Heath Bell is just better than Uehara…
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I can tell you, hold on.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
150 BF
Uehara is over that both this year and last, with a K/9 over 11 in both years.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
huh... well, maybe he is actually good then...
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I know.
It’s not even a one year thing. I can’t figure it out, though this was more a 10,000 foot view than in depth look at each.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW
http://www.fangraphs.com/library/index.php/principles/sample-size/
Good bookmark.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Saw him pitch an inning
against the Angels this weekend. He is very deceptive. Fastball looks much faster coming out. Has pretty good movement.
"I've got a Harden!"
by ghostofPeterGardere on Jul 26, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
your brother, phil the kid has front page posting powers.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Haha,
I was just being whiny. No slight to you, homeslice.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I know, didn't take it that way.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
.
JeffWilson_FWST Jeff Wilson
Leonys Martin at #Rangers Ballpark for a base-running clinic from Gary Pettis and Ron Washington.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
x
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
One of the reasons I love this place:
Timely pics that make me lol and blow snot outta my nose.
DFA/Kill Knox.
by DonDrapersOPS on Jul 26, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate this cock sucker but hey..
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
by RyanCox23
strong belief now best beltran offer may come from #rangers. 1 hangup: he prefers nl. atl, sf, milw still in, #tradedeadline
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
who really cares what he prefers?
so long as he waives his ntc. And I can’t imagine that he would prefer to stay in NY than go to Texas. Seems like a meaningless bluff (if even that…)
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Agreed
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Well, if he says no to Tex (or AL in general)
the Mets will find a suitor in the NL. They have literally no benefit to keeping him.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I read somewhere
Texas is the only AL team he would waive to go to.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
sure
but if Texas gives the best offer, and the Mets want to call his bluff, my guess is he’ll accept. After all, it does Beltran no good to be watching the playoffs in October either. He wants to be showcasing himself…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Yeah,
interesting game of chicken.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Beltran
The trade would be for what, 3 months? Weird that he’d be so concerned with going to an NL team for a short-term move.
"Napoli batting regularly in Arlington will be the biggest explosion in the American Southwest since Robert Oppenheimer tested the Manahttan Project."
-- RevHaloFan
Yep.
I guess he’s worried that he hasn’t scouted the pitchers as well?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
That makes sense,
but I don’t think the Rangers would DH him. Or Boston.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm starting to wonder whether we might have interest in signing him.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Doubt it.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Doubt it.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Hmm
Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
AL exec: said: #Astros asked big return on Wandy Rodriguez few weeks back, “will take little at deadline to get rid of most of his contract”
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Such a bloody fucking stupid contract.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldnt even take him off their hands for no prospects....
that contract is stupid…
"It was like the movie Die Hard. The guy gets shot in the leg, he’s limping around and he still throws the bad guy down the elevator shaft. I was about to throw an eephus pitch."-CJ Wilson
Josey Wales is stupid
and he's no better than anyone we currently have in our rotation
he’d be a long reliever at best IMO
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
My observations of this thread(I'm not going to reply bc I'm getting lost trying to read everything)
-Josh Hamilton should never be compared to Jayson Werth again
-Beltran is coming to Texas
-Ubaldo isn’t
-Pettis and Wash are teach Martin how baseball go so he can be CF in 12’
-The Astros are done
and the bullpen help we need isn’t getting nearly enough chatter
by chalktalk on Jul 26, 2011 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I tried =(
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Beltran would be a nice addition to the lineup
but it doesn’t compare to what adding Bell and Clippard would do for the pen
Clippard is going to cost waaay too much.
Too many years of control left.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, nm,
wrong guy. He’s a FA after 2012.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
what is clippard going to cost?
any ideas
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Prob not the right answer but...Scheppers
would you?
if thats all it took, where do i sign??
I fear Erlin or NeRa being traded for a reliever.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
I was thinking maybe Erlin(I think he goes in the Bell deal)
what’s NeRa’s injury situation?
i would be pissed if either one of those guys were traded for a reliever
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
I would prob be OK w/ Bell
I like the idea of resigning him and moving Feliz to rotation next year
but I don't think the Rangers would be resigning Bell
it would be a rental if he came here
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
I'm not ok with it.
Because I don’t think Bell is as good as he looks.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Do not want Bell on a long term deal.
Draft picks, please. I would rather trade one of the AA starters in the offseason for a closer.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Alot.
They want to compete as early as next year (though more like next year as the year to get everybody’s feet wet).
Something like Erlin, Scheppers, Loux, Villanueva maybe?
Perhaps they’d be interested in Borbon…
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
If the only concern was for Martin to play in '12, they could teach him in the offseason.
Taking him out of RR for personal instruction DURING the season means more than that to m.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
it means.....his audition starts in September for a postseason roster spot
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
if he's on the 40
gets a september call up, and someone one the 25 is “injured”, he can get on the playoff roster. same way we got frenchy on last year’s postseason roster if i remember right
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
well there ya go
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
I dont think it was Francouer
We acquired him before September 1st and he was in the majors the whole time
was it Kirkman then?
did he get his BP spot from september outings?
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
If we get Beltran there is no place for Martin
Murphy or Gentry are already out if that trade happens. No room for Martin this year if Beltran thing happens
well Beltran isn't here right now
and you can’t assume that he will be here
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
why do you say that?
september 40 man roster rules, claim a hamstring injury to Gentry or Murphy and Martin gets the spot.
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
I'd rather role with Gentry in that case
With a Beltran – Hammy – Cruz OF in the playoffs I would take Gentry as the pich runner/defensive sub over Martin who is a rookie with only a few months of pro ball stateside under his belt
to me
it will depend on how his bat plays when and if he gets a september call up
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
Im not to keen on rolling inot the playoffs with a rookie based solely on some ABs he got in September
Especially in the role he would be asked to play in the playoffs
while i'm not 100% keen on it either
if his bat shows more than gentry’s has this season, i could see wash taking that gamble, going with his gut type of thing. and who knows, it could pay off if it does happen
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
If you think Leonys is ready for the ML, you don't leave him down because you have Chavez or Gentry.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
You don't call someone up to play CF in the playoffs bc you "think"
that’s something you gotta know
Holy shit, someone call the Cliche Police.
The serial offender has returned.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Cliche or not it's true
you know what you have in Chavez/Gentry. If you don’t know exactly what to expect from Martin you don’t bring him up for the playoffs. You can’t afford to be wrong.
Okay if you know Martin can play better than chavez/gentry then you bring him up
Friggin semantics
I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.
by jonas m. on Jul 26, 2011 4:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
But I don't think either of them would see many, if any, ABs in the postseason
With a Beltran/Josh/Cruz OF you aren’t going to PH for any of those guys.
I think thats persons role would be pinch runner and then possibly a defensive replacement if you wanted to remove either Beltran or Cruz and play Josh in a corner.
Gentry is faster than Martin by all accounts and has much more expereince and has been really good in CF.
If one of our OFs got hurt then you could bring Martin up but I would roll with Gentry to start
Only other option is Moreland in right w/ Face at 1st
and defensively that’s no bueno
Bullpen help is boring and overpriced. Fuck bullpen help
Yes, the Stros are bad at baseball and likely “done.”
Martin isn’t opening-day CF, but likely mid-summer starter, barring a Rasmus/Upton acquisition, of course.
Ubaldo isn’t coming to Texas, and that’s probably a good thing.
Beltran is, which is also a good thing.
Josh Hamilton is Mickey Mantle. Jayson Werth is ugly and stupid.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
No. What happened?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Our defense failed us
specifically, Michael Young’s
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
What?
Why can’t I look at jayson werth and worry how that affects hamilton’s next contract?
I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.
by jonas m. on Jul 26, 2011 4:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hamilton is better?
Werth was paid like he plays like Josh Hamilton though so maybe we can use it
Of course hamilton is better
That was the idea of the discussion. Hamilton can look at Werth’s contract and know he deserves more than Werth. Nobody was comparing their ability at all.
I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.
by jonas m. on Jul 26, 2011 4:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
My point
Was that if Werth can get 7 years guaranteed going into his age 32 year… why would Hamilton settle for 3 guaranteed years with vesting options?
Obviously Hamilton is better.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
A lengthy injury history on top of a pretty highly publicized personal history
He likely wont have to settle for only 3 years guaranteed because some team, like the Nats with Werth, will swoop in and make a stupid offer. But I, if I were the GM, wouldn’t be comfortable going more than 3-4 guaranteed years
If you were a GM what would you have given Werth?
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I think somewhere around 5/85 would have been my max comfort level
Maybe add on a option year if thats what it took.
That's reasonable.
And $40m less than he got.
Hamilton’s agent will make sure he gets over 100m guaranteed. The MLBPA would pressure the shit out of him too.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I think for Hamilton my max comfort level would be roughly 4/92-96
Maybe 4/100
But then add on a couple of option years with pretty easily obtainable goals that basically protect the club in case of severe injury. He can have small injuries and still make his goal but if he was to be injured for like a full season or something it would allow the club to cut ties
I'd be cool w/ that
but I can’ see Hamilton taking 5/85 and wouldn’t be upset with him for leaving if thats the best we can offer
OT
My little brother’s friend play’s on Josh Bell’s travel team and says that he’s agreeed to sign for 9 Mil or so. I’m as interested as anyone to see if he knows what he’s talking about, but that’s what he told me.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
whoa 9 mil......thats crazy
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
it is more likely that he got paid $9M to stay with UT.
by Heebs on Jul 26, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Another friend of my little brother
Who is also on that travel team, is going to play for Rice this fall. Hopefully he develops well and becomes a draft prospect.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Pitcher
or OF. He did both in High School at Plano. I think they are gonna have him pitch mostly.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
cool. Hope he's good.
He’ll be knuckle-curving it in no time…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
From what he's told me
He’s thrown a knuckle curve since he was 15 or so. He’s like 6’2 or so right now, and his dad supposedly grew several inches after high school and is now 6’5 or so.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
To repeat myself from this very thread
That’s horseshit. There’s no way he’s getting that kind of money.
You’re telling me, Pittsburgh, that Josh Bell is worth more to you than Guzman and Mazara COMBINED?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I'm really curious if he'll say no to 5M.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Then explain to me the complexities.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Well fucking done.
You need to stick around, sir.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't see BHill's image...
What is it?
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Gus from Psych
Sitting in a sofa with a bucket of popcorn making a goofy MJ-esque face/dancemove
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Gus rocks.
Never forget the “Shout” episode w/him dressed up as MJ and Shawn as TfF guy. Many LOLs were had at Chez Draper that night.
DFA/Kill Knox.
by DonDrapersOPS on Jul 26, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
My favorite is one of the season enders
where Gus has to keep lightening the mood for Shawn to concentrate.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
The Sano mess?
The Pittsburgh Pirates were the first team to make Sano a deal, and appeared to be his most ardent suitor, but negotiations between the two sides were at a standstill after agent Rob Plummer rejected a $2.6 million offer from the team
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok
still not sure what their Venezuelan presence is but I actually think I remember them having a decent LA program.
That would be the one reason you would devote more to the draft than LA. Maybe you also don’t want to spend time convincing guys to come play for you instead of Boston and would rather get money talent in the draft
I think LA is more complicated than just throwing a dollar figure at a guy and he signs with you
The relationships the handlers have with clubs and stuff like that. The Pirates may not have the resources allocatted to LA to start to build those relationships and so they may not have even had a chance at guys like Mazara and co.
Obviously I cannot know for sure, but I would be willing to bet that with very few exceptions
The team that offers the most money “wins” the prospect in LA. That may not be true for guys like Profar, who wanted something other than money (the chance to play SS) or guys with clearly-established relationships with a certain team.
However, without having details to the contrary, I think if the Pirates rolled into the LA market with $9 million, they could walk away with guys like Guzman and Mazara.
That’s not to say they could have definitely done it with Guzman and Mazara this year, but the point remains that it is ridiculously stupid to pay that kind of money to Josh Bell when there are so many other outlets through which you can acquire comparable talent.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
"Comparable talent"
I was guilty of this the other way but the fact is that we probably cannot say for sure if Josh Bell is comparable to Guzman and Mazara combined. Bell is at least further along so at least he has that going for him.
You're certainly right, and that could be an issue here.
Maybe the Pirates just fucking love them some Josh Bell.
I don’t know how you can love him enough to spend $9 million, though.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
9M seems pretty high
Just because of the historical context of very few draftees ever getting that kind of deal and Bell not being considered a top 5 talent by anybody.
But in terms of relative value, I don’t think we know enough about any of these guys to know if this is a good deal.
If I were to eyeball percentages of reaching the majors, etc., I would think the best use of 9M would be to go get somebody good in FA.
All I'm telling you
Is what my brother’s friend told me. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he was full of it. I am just repeating what was told to me by someone who knows him personally. 18 year olds have been known to be full of shit.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
That's more than any hitter ever not named Bryce Harper.
And almost as much as Harper!
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
No, it wouldn't.
The value of the contract would still be far above slot guidelines for that pick, and MLB would take very keen interest in how the Kx was formulated.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
What if they only gave him a 1.5 million dollar actual signing bonus
And the rest of the 9 million figure was his base salaries for the first few years of his ML contract?
1.5 million is still well above the slot price for the first pick in the second round.
So the same thing happens.
And I would be shocked if MLB didn’t look very closely at ML contracts given to draftees regardless of their bonuses and slots.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
But 1.5 million wouldn't nearly send up the red flags that a straight 9 million dollar bonus would
And I doubt MLB looks that closely at who gets ML contracts. Thats on the clubs. They only have a certain amount they can have at one time and if they want to throw those around to 18 year old 2nd round draftees thats on them.
Really?
You don’t think the MLB would look at this closely? Are you high at work right now?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would they look at it extra close?
Im sure they give it their due diligence but I don’t think there would be any extra scrutiny attached.
The kid was a 1st round talent that fell to the 2nd round due to bonus demands and if the Pirates did in fact give him a ML deal totalling 9 million I don’t see any need for extra scrutiny
Because, at the very least,
we know that every (significantly) overslot signing is accompanied by a letter from the MLB office saying to not do it? Can you imagine what sort of letter/phone call that would generate?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
OK
But is 1.5 mil for the 1st pick of the 2nd round “significantly” overslot?
And how many of these overslot deals have been declined by MLB?
It's at least 50% overslot.
Maybe as much as 100% overslot.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
These two things are not both apples.
You have to see the difference between signing an 11th-rounder for $350k and giving the first pick of the 2nd round $1.5 million and a ML contract.
Why can’t you ever accept that your little hypothetical scenarios are idiotic? Why do you have to continually defend them instead of saying “yeah, if the Pirates signed Bell for $9 million, regardless of how they structured it, MLB would flip their shit out.”
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
by Aqua on Jul 26, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I will now spend the next 60 seconds
rec’ing, then un’recing so I can rec again.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
but only because Big Steve is on the receiving end of this serve.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. If you've got ideas of any kind, I would love for you to run them by me.
I don't like that you hate me.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I like you
but I dislike Esteban more.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. If you've got ideas of any kind, I would love for you to run them by me.
YOU FOOL, YOU ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD.
The second part of my post was invisible!
The post actually read:
I don’t like that you hate me. I LOVE IT.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
THIS IS WAR!
I’LL POST MY WORST AND LARGEST GIFS, MAKING THIS THREAD UNVIEWABLE!
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. If you've got ideas of any kind, I would love for you to run them by me.
by Conjunction on Jul 26, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You diabolical bastard.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Theres a difference sure
But I dont think its as vast as you make it out to be.
And the whole how its structured point does make a difference. A 9 million dollar signing bonus and a 9 million dollar ML contract are two completely different things and thus would fall under different types of scrutiny.
If it was a straight bonus then yes the commish’s office would probably come down with the hammer and say something. But if its a ML deal which teams only have a certain amount of to give away with a reasonable signing bonus (based on where he was projected to go) I don’t think it causes much consternation in MLBs offices
Explaining:
We’re Pittsburgh and we’re desperate. Forgive us.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
College of Public Affairs and Community Service (my department at school)...
just started following me on twitter…this is not going to end well.
Can I block them from seeing anything I post?
HELP!
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Weird.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I think I know who runs it, we're tight...but I dont' need them seeing my drunken, late-night tweet bombs.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Unt tv started following me
I decided to stop talking shit about people.
I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.
by jonas m. on Jul 26, 2011 4:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You've got nothng to fear
NTTV won’t do anything.
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I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. If you've got ideas of any kind, I would love for you to run them by me.
Troy Renck, Denver Post, Concerning Ubaldo:
Rockies talks w Reds would involve at least 1 pitcher coming back. Rox have asked about Bailey and chapman
If Reds catcher untouchable in trade talks. Then that’s a problem. Rox see him as middle of the order bat. Really like him a lot
Mesoraco is the catcher, I believe.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Pretty sure he knows who Chapman is.
He was questioning his inclusion in the deal.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
It's Aroldis RH brother.
He only throws like 94 though.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Wimp.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
GB, you around in this thread?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Yessir.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm curious if you can identify the guy in white in the middle of this picture.
And the man in red seated on his left.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
That is definitely not
The man you say it is.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Hrmmm...
Is that Briles in the middle?
No clue on the guy in the red.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
It is Briles.
The guy is red is Bob Simpson.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
*in red
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Huh...I'm not sure I knew that.
Baylor for undergrad and MBA.
Actually, this does sound familiar now. Weird that both baseball teams in Texas were owned by Baylor guys over the same (short) stretch.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm friends with a family that is full of Baylor boosters
They are hoping he’ll pony up for a new football stadium
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 26, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
They're looking at the wrong guy.
Need to look down Houston way.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Yeah Mclane
right? Or did I make that up. He was mentioned too
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 26, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
McLane is the biggest mover in the stadium talk.
He wants his name on the project.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
So hot right now.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I think they're just hoping
one of the big billionaire donors ponies up
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 26, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully the sale of the Astros gets fully completed quickly.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Donated about $25 million, I believe, for the on-campus athletic practice facilities Baylor completed last year.
Donated quite a bit before that for the tennis courts. Has been rumored to be one of the main donors behind the new business school.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Nice!
Nice to have a couple of billionaires in our back pocket…hopefully they keep donating. I want the new stadium to be stunning.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
How many games do you go back for?
Homecoming at least?
Aqua?
Any other Bears or non-Bears to your own college?
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I went to all of the home games last season except for one.
I can’t remember why we didn’t, but we were planning to before something came up.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Depends on the year,
but usually I watch 1-2 games a year. Not always in Waco, though.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahhh,
nice. Hard to recognize Briles without the hat.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
So the lack of hat is what tripped you up?
Not the fact that you couldn’t see his face? That’s some serious devotion to Baylor Bears football there, Ghetto.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Well, context clues.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
We are now 'Elite'
JeffPassanJeff Passan
Amazing difference among the elite and the rest. NYY, BOS, TEX and PHI all have run differentials of +95 or more. Next highest: ATL at +47.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2011 4:28 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
What a difference three weeks can make.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Yep.
A month ago Texas would have been replaced with Atlanta, I think.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
They absolutely were.
I saw in more than one article referring to the “Big Four” of BOS, NYY, PHI and ATL
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Yep.
Still think both WC’s come from the East.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
WOO LAST NIGHT!
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Last night, she said
Baby I feel so down
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
She said "you don't understand what I said"
I said “No, no, no, you’re wrong”
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
And I don't know why
I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.
by jonas m. on Jul 26, 2011 4:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
All WS contenders right there boys.
Thr Rangers got off the porch and are running with the big dogs now.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Middlebrook didn't report it
so I don’t believe it
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 26, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I need to hear about this on a podcast
I’m still skeptical. Do you have a link?
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 26, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think Beltran will veto a trade here.
If he was, he’d tell people. It’s not in his interest to dick the Mets around… he holds all the cards.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Dicking the Mets
would be to announce right at the beginning that half his suitors are out. Given that most of the suitors are NL clubs anyway, it’s in the best interest of the Mets to play all of the competing offers against each other with the intention of trading him to an NL club in the end.
Didn't he already do that?
By saying he’d prefer the NL and wouldn’t accept a trade in which he’ll DH?
I don’t think he cares about protecting the Mets to make sure they get the best offer. I’m not saying he’s trying to aid them in a positive way.
But if the Mets get Texas to agree with a deal and then he turns around and vetoes it, it just wastes everyone’s time.
It’s possible that he has told the Mets that he isn’t going to accept any trade to the AL and they asked him to keep that quiet and say otherwise to the media and he’s agreed. But having Texas seem like they are in it if they really aren’t isn’t in HIS best interests.
That may drive Philly to try harder for Pence and not bother with him because they don’t want to try and compete with our farm.
It’s in his best honest to limit the suitors to exactly what he wants.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
It might waste people's time
but I bet it’s a strong possibility and if he really didn’t want to go to an AL team, he wouldn’t announce it now (and the Mets wouldn’t want him to)
Your last three sentences are absurd
Competition isn’t in his best interest because the NL teams will all drop out at the specter of trying to compete with the AL teams? I doubt that’s how it would go down.
They might focus on trying for other assets.
Rather than him if they think the cost is too high.
If Beltran is dead set on going to Philly or SF, having more teams bid on him isn’t in his best interests, only the Mets.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
So it is still your contention that if Beltran doesn't want to go to an AL team
he would announce it to everybody right now and that would not be “dicking the Mets” as much as letting the Mets negotiate with Texas and then veto the trade (when more likely the Mets already know he doesn’t want to go to an AL team and thus would never get that far)?
Because that is incorrect.
I bet he ends up with an NL team
I agree that would be adverse to the Mets.
Instead of using the phrase “dicking around” I should have just used “wasted time”.
I expect the Mets know EXACTLY who he will accept and won’t already. That may or may not include AL teams. But I don’t think Beltran would let the Mets accept an offer from Texas to then veto it. Especially as close to the deadline as we are.
It’s very possible that Beltran told the Mets “No AL” and they Mets asked him to let them negotiate with them on the table to get the best deal… and he may have agreed to that in the interest of being a professional.
That allows the Mets to keep Texas and Boston around as suitors and drive the price up without actually saying “Yes” to a Texas or Boston offer.
But… if Beltran is only concerned about himself, it’s not in his best interests to have his price driven up if he wants to pick his team.
And given the mixed statements we’ve heard… I’m not sure what Beltran’s actual opinion is. If he really wanted to help the Mets and keep teams in the hunt that he’s ruled out… why say anything at all? Why this “no DH” definitive response? Wouldn’t he just be completely mute on the subject?
Also… I’ll take you up on that bet [I don’t really think I’ll win… I just like making internet bets]. What do you want to bet?
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
With so much drama in the L-S-B
It’s kinda hard being the A-B-ZeRo-3
But he somehow, some way
Keeps coming up with the harsh stuff like every single day
…
Wastin time at work, smoking morons, spittin out vitriol
Laid back
With his mind on his insults and his insults on his mind.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know that ab03 could cause actual drama with me.
I enjoy his fine work.
Everyone has to take a turn arguing with ab… today was my day.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't see this at work.
Just a big white image.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
S N doubleO P
D O doubleGizee
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember when Chronic came out.
And he was just a contributor.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Well if you ain't up on pace...
Dr. Dre is the name, I’m ahead of my game
Still, puffing my leafs, still with the beats
Still not loving police (Uh huh)
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you still rock your khakis with a cuff and crease?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
consider it a rite of passage
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Shit... this ain't my first rodeo.
On my very first day I got challenged by ab… it was good though. He made me think my point through better.
He’s a smart guy… aggressive… but usually has a good point.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Looks like the Rangers will sit back until the Mets finally cave in and send Beltran our way.
- sports are fun. -
I don't know if cave is the right word.
Return to sanity might be a better term.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
...
Carlos Beltran told reporters on Sunday that, sure, he’d accept a trade to the Red Sox or Rangers — but he won’t OK a deal to a team that would make him a designated hitter.
Rangers won't have him in desginated hitter
He can play any outfield spot and can DH when needed a rest.
PRETTY sure he can't play CF.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
We have a bet on this, but I forget the terms.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Yeah I was in the "Beltran in CF" camp
Not that I want him there (I don’t even want us to trade for him), but I think the probability Warsh might play him there is higher than a lot of you guys believe.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 26, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
He said he doesn't want to.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
That is good...
hopefully that is enough to keep the gut from murphying him out in centerfield if the Ranger’s acquire him.
Ninja tells the Mets....
You owe us for that Darling trade so we will take Beltran for Jovanny Cedeno and you will say nothing.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
not only will the mets say nothing
they’ll eat the rest of Beltran’s contract too
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
Once upon a time, Sandy asked JD for a favor.
JD told him “Sandy, I will do this thing you have asked of me. But I will remember it. And there will come a day when I will ask you for something. You will give it to me. And you will not ask questions.”
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
by Aqua on Jul 26, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Alright, big moves
Beltran, Shields, Clippard, and Bell. Wonder what it would take to get all 4?
/amanandhisdreams
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
Why get Clippard AND Bell?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Move Feliz to the rotation next year
retain both Clippard and bell, making them the 8th and 9th inning guys
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
I like the way you think, sir
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 26, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
No.
Just…no.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, it clearly isn't gonna happen
But what is the problem with this move?
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 26, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't give out long term deals to closers, especially non-elite ones.
That’s a large cost in the way of prospects when you really only need one of those guys with Hunter and Lowe having come around to some degree.
Don’t give out long term deals to closers, especially non-elite ones.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
what is long term to you
2+ years? I’m thinking 2 years on bell with a vesting option for a 3rd year, 3 on clippard with a team option for a 4th (with I will say is long term).
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
I don't think he signs for that.
I think you’re looking at something similar to what Soriano got from the Yanks, though without the opt outs.
Clippard isn’t a free agent until after 2012.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Not with his peripherals this year, he's not.
Take him out of Petco and I think you see a completely different pitcher.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
3 words, 1 answer.
Too fucking much.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
by Aqua on Jul 26, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
*a man and his dreams
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
Sounds like something Norm would propose
Uhhhh, Mike!
Marteen Feliz, Robbie Erlin, Nathan Ramirez, Jason Profar, Josh Leuke… wait, we don’t have him anymore?
Sean, do you hear this? Josh Leuke? Whatever happened to that guy? I saw him in AA once. Such a good guy! Ruff! Great guY!
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. If you've got ideas of any kind, I would love for you to run them by me.
by Conjunction on Jul 26, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
mouth filled with pimento cheese
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
This is funny.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Thank you my friend
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
MLB traderumors says Nationals are interested in Peter Bourjos
My first response — hell yes, get him out of the AL West.
They'd have to toss in Kendrick for salary reasons,
but the Nats might do it.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably not?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I dunno
As much as I hate watching him run down every goddamn ball hit to the outfield, he is starting to put up some Chris Davisian K numbers.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 26, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
82 K in 294 AB
Heh.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 26, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
.
KenDavidoffKen Davidoff
#Mets continue to scout #Rangers’ farm system in preparation for possible Beltran trade.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2011 4:55 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
They so much to see and so little time
by octoberty on Jul 26, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I kind of liked this version
The Mets are so overwhelmed with the farm system they can’t handle grammar.
by The Best Micah on Jul 26, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
I just added a few faps onto the end.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
>75%
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
No way. Nooooooo wayyyy.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I love this time of year where we look around and see which players were pulled from a game on some team and then speculate.
fun times.
- sports are fun. -
Has anyone checked the flights from Philadelphia to Houston?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Calling bigsteve.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
so fun...
I was forwarding flight info to friends…they thought I had lost my mind.
Which, I had.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
It's about to get fun around here, Ryno!!
wwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
- sports are fun. -
Iiiiinteresting.
Big player out of the Beltran playoffs.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel like it says interesting things about Philley's approach/self-perceived window.
But I’m not sure.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Philly needs help beyond just this year
I think a Pence trade makes a lot more sense for them. It didn’t make any sense for Texas
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Yeah.
But they keep making moves that will negatively impact their team in 4-5 years.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I think after 2013 the Phils will have trouble
Rollins, Hamels and Oswalt will all be gone (probably as soon as next year), probably Victorino as well. Halladay will be getting old. So will Lee. Utley will be in his last year. They’ll be due to spend $75 million combined on those three and Howard.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I love looking at the Howard contract.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Can you put a dollar amount on RBIs?
Related… is it bad that Adrian Beltre’s RBIs make me happy?
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Apparently Philly decided something like 250K per RBI.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing wrong with enjoying looking at RBI
It makes me feel warm and fuzzy to think of Juan Gone and his chase of Hack Wilson.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I enjoyed the daily DMN updates on that.
That reminds me that I used to love the Sports page. Looked forward to it every day to see box scores.
People who have grown up with not knowing a world pre-internet… they just don’t know!
Of course every generation says this with a technological advance.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I still am baffled that people used to use rotary phones
I mean, how did they work?
And then before that people picked up the phone and just told an operator who they wanted to talk to? I can’t help but think Google is about to bring us back to something like that again
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I always wanted to see an actual switch board at work
and see how they work.
I am fascinated by them, I can’t explain it.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
As they should.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Ken Rosenthal
Sources: #Phillies most aggressive on Pence. #RedSox have inquired, tough finding match. #Braves not currently involved.
when do we find out about the Astros moving to the AL West?
and when would it happen?
I don’t know if I want Houston to rebuild. I kind of want them to stay bad for a long time now…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I thought it was 2013
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I think that's right.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
when do we know if/when it is official?
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Not for a while.
I can’t help but think it’s in the “use it to get everyone talking about realignment and baseball instead of the NBA or NFL” phase.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Cowboys cut Roy Williams
That’s almost as exciting as a Rangers trade.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I grew up with a kid who played QB for Rice
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
really? we had a couple of decent QBs over the past 10 years.
They were more running backs than anything else though. Was he one of the triple option guys?
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Yeah. Chad Richardson. He was a smarmy little douchebag though.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I remember him
I think he was there around the time I was… let me check…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
yep
http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerQB.asp?id=1231537
He must have been the one who passed a bit more – I remember they platooned. He still rushed for more than he passed, but not by the ratio I remember Rice QBs normally having.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Not the same guy
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Would have been 96-00
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
yep, only one year off from me.
I didn’t know him though; Rice athletes tended to exist within their own little universe, for obvious reasons…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Yes.
There is a football thread, though.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Just saw this tweet
Dominic Brown was just scratched from Phillies lineup. Why? Is he someone else’s property
DKnobler
Beltran has right to choose where he wants to play, but Texas offers: great ballpark to hit in, great lineup to hit in, great chance at Oct
It's only a matter of time now.
DKnoblerDKnobler
Beltran has right to choose where he wants to play, but Texas offers: great ballpark to hit in, great lineup to hit in, great chance at Oct.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Reputable?
Relevant?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Knobler's got a good reputation.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. If you've got ideas of any kind, I would love for you to run them by me.
Oh, my god.
This lineup is going to be so absurd.
Kinsler
Beltran
Hamilton
Beltre
Young
Cruz
Napoli
Moreland
Andrus
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. If you've got ideas of any kind, I would love for you to run them by me.
god that is sexy
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
if we make that happen,
i’m gonna have to bring a spare pair until after the WS
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
Where would you hit him?
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. If you've got ideas of any kind, I would love for you to run them by me.
my guess
he’d swap Beltran and Young
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
Young 2nd?
Kinsler
Young
Hamilton
Beltre
Beltran
Cruz
Napoli
Moreland
Andrus
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
So much talent...
All configurations lead to AwesomeTown.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
That looks like a Wash lineup...
sadly Torrealba will be in there instead of Napoli.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Not for the playoffs.
I think Napoli will be the primary playoff catcher except against LHP when he’ll have him at 1B.
Unless we’re in an NL park where Young is at 1B and Napoli is C.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
That works, too
It’s really hard to go wrong.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. If you've got ideas of any kind, I would love for you to run them by me.
it's fun to think any one of our (hopeful) top 6
could be the number 3 hitter on a lot of teams
Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
Nah,
4th. He’s been a No.4 hitter before
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's not try to jinx it.
Please?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Carlos Beltran said to love the Bob Armstrong dip at Matt's...
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I wouldn't believe any report to the contrary.
Who doesn’t like Bob Armstrongs?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
What a joke.
in tom verducci’s SI article this week on harper, 2 #nats execs compare bryce to jackie robinson. are they #nuts?
Robinson had a career .162 ISO
Surely Harper is projected to do better than that.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
by JDT217 on Jul 26, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's offensive to Jackie Robinson.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I can't think of a single way they are similar
aside from wielding baseball bats for a living.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. If you've got ideas of any kind, I would love for you to run them by me.
yeah
that’s like comparing Darren O’Day to Sandy Koufax
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
It's like comparing Jurickson Profar
to Sandy Koufax.
Obviously, they’re both very talented. But beyond that?
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. If you've got ideas of any kind, I would love for you to run them by me.
.\
SamMillerOCR Sam Miller
Bryce Harper’s career, so far, actually does resemble Jackie Robinson’s slightly: bit.ly/p2gEyK
The problem is that even if the comparison makes sense
it is obviously a stupid, needlessly provocative statement to make.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
x
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
my harper-robinson comparison: jackies an american hero who endured terrible scrutiny/treatment, bryce a rich kid in minors
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
It's basic probability. You were due.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
I'm confused.
Up is down.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Bears are bare.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Tonight's lineup
2B Ian Kinsler SS Elvis Andrus LF Josh Hamilton DH Michael Young RF Nelson Cruz 1B Mitch Moreland C Yorvit Torrealba 3B Chris Davis CF Endy Chavez
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
CD better play better today
I have a feeling Ron and co is running out of patience…
it is one thing to screw up offensively, but his defense was terrible as well
"It was like the movie Die Hard. The guy gets shot in the leg, he’s limping around and he still throws the bad guy down the elevator shaft. I was about to throw an eephus pitch."-CJ Wilson
Josey Wales is stupid
How do I get the pizza deal?
"Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor."-Capote
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning."-JD
rangers7
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Nats acquire Johnny Gomes from the Reds
Per MLBTradeRumors.com
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
For?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
x
The Nationals announced that they have acquired Jonny Gomes and cash considerations from the Reds for outfielder Bill Rhinehart and left-hander Chris Manno (Twitter links). The Reds have confirmed the move.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Might be a showcase of Alonzo...
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Showcase? Like they want to trade him as well?
I think they were just getting rid of an extra OFer to bring up their guy who they think is now ML ready.
From what I’ve read, Yonder is going to be their guy for a while now.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Shit I must have missed when they moved him to OF
I figured he was still at 1B and just blocked by Votto which is why he was being mentioned in trades so much
Yeah, I assume when Votto signed that three year extension last year
Yonder decided he may want to try another position. But I don’t see anything that makes him a great upgrade in his minor numbers, especially as a OFer. I can’t imagine it’s his defense since he just moved positions.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
I guess the bigger question is why do the Nats want Gomes?
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
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