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Who would be the odd man out?

The Twittersphere is abuzz with talk about the Texas Rangers' ongoing hunt for relief help, with the team having been linked at one point or another with just about every relief pitcher who is thought to be available.  Heath Bell is, of course, the leading candidate to be here by Sunday, but the Rangers have other irons in the fire, and it is expected that at least one new reliever will be acquired by Texas by the Sunday, 3 p.m. Central deadline.

Here's the question, though...who, among the current crop of relievers, will be out once the new guy (or guys) come in?

Star-divide

The Rangers are currently employing a seven man bullpen, featuring Neftali Feliz, Darren Oliver, Mark Lowe, Yoshinori Tateyama, Arthur Rhodes, Tommy Hunter, and Scott Feldman.  

Feliz and Oliver are pretty clearly safe, and Feldman can't be sent down.  That leaves us with four candidates for the axe:*

*  There will inevitably be suggestions that the Rangers go to an 8 man bullpen.  This is a terrible idea.  The four man bench already reduces tactical flexibility, and the rotation has pitched well enough that it is difficult enough getting the seven relievers already here enough work -- Scott Feldman, for example, has only pitched two innings since being activated from the disabled list fifteen days ago.  There's no reason for an eight man bullpen.


Mark Lowe

#57 / Pitcher / Texas Rangers

6-3

210

L

R

Jun 07, 1983



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Mark Lowe 2-2 35 0 0 0 1 2 30.1 36 20 13 3 15 28 3.86 1.68

Why he should stay:  He's a righthanded power arm, the only true power arm in the bullpen right now other than Neftali Feliz.  After a horrible start to the season that saw him get sent down to the minors, he's shown improvement and been one of the better arms in the bullpen.  If Feliz is unavailable, he's the best choice to close out a game.

Why he should go:  He can be optioned, which means that the Rangers can send him to the minors without risking losing him.  His 3.91 FIP and 3.59 xFIP is nothing special, and his .355 BABIP suggests he may be pitching worse than his FIP indicates.  And he's struggled of late, walking as many as he's struck out in July, while putting up a 4.18 xFIP.

Outlook:  Lowe is probably safe.  He's the tallest dwarf among this group, and the Rangers clearly are intrigued by his arm.  He's got the highest average fastball velocity on the team right now, higher than even Feliz, and as long as he's not gascanning like he was in April, he should stick around, even if another power righty like Bell joins the team.


Arthur Rhodes

#53 / Pitcher / Texas Rangers

6-2

220

L

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Oct 24, 1969



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Arthur Rhodes 3-3 31 0 0 0 1 2 23.1 28 13 13 6 8 15 5.01 1.54

Why he should stay:  He's lefthanded.  And, uh...he had pitched okay over a span of about six weeks before his meltdown in the 20-6 blowout of Minnesota.  Ummm...did I mention he is lefthanded?

Why he should go:  He's been terrible this year, and even against lefties, he's allowing a 734 OPS.

Outlook:  Rhodes would be the easy pick to go, particularly given the rumors floating around for a couple of months that the Rangers want to trade him, except for the fact that that would leave Darren Oliver as the only lefthander in the bullpen.  Rhodes was acquired in large part because the Rangers didn't want to overwork Oliver, but as it stands now, Oliver still is tied for the most appearances on the team, and is second in relief innings, behind Neftali Feliz.  My guess is that Rhodes survives if the Rangers add just one righthanded reliever, but if they add two guys, or a lefty, I think Rhodes is either DFA'd or put on the disabled list, while the Rangers continue to search for lefthanded relief help after the waiver deadline.


Tommy Hunter

#35 / Pitcher / Texas Rangers

6-3

255

R

R

Jul 03, 1986



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Tommy Hunter 1-1 7 0 0 0 0 1 13.0 11 6 5 1 5 9 3.46 1.23

 

Why he should stay:  Remember talking about power arms in the bullpen?  Tommy Hunter has the third highest average velocity of the guys in the pen right now, coming in at 93 mph.  13 innings isn't much of a sample size, but his stats have been okay during that time.  And the Rangers love what Hunter brings to the mound, from a determination and mindset standpoint...you've heard talk from the organization, and Nolan Ryan in particular, about how much they like his attitude, that he's going to go out there, not be intimidated, and throw strikes.  

Why he should go:  There's only so much room at the inn, and really, what would Hunter's role be if the Rangers added a Heath Bell?  Feliz and Bell would handle the 8th and 9th in some combination, Lowe would be the power arm for the 7th or 8th, you've got Tateyama as a situational righthander, Feldman as the long man...Hunter could be the victim of a numbers game, particularly since he's been more "okay" than "great" since joining the major league pen.  And Hunter also can be optioned, which would allow the Rangers to send him down and, potentially, look at stretching him out, to be the team's "sixth starter" if a member of the rotation were to go down.

Outlook:  Tough call here.  Going just off the numbers, you'd think Hunter would be out (particularly if the Rangers were to add a lefty and a righty, meaning that they couldn't just dump Rhodes).  But the regard in which the organization holds him, the feeling that he's pennant race tested, and the fact that he could be a key part of the bullpen for several more years to come could result in him sticking around.  At this point, though, I think it is probably not much better than 50/50 he's still on the 25 man roster come Monday.


Yoshinori Tateyama

#22 / Pitcher / Texas Rangers

5-10

165

R

R

Dec 26, 1975



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Yoshinori Tateyama 1-0 23 0 0 0 1 0 24.0 19 10 9 3 4 25 3.38 .96

 

Why he should stay:  He's done nothing but get the job done this year, despite being bounced between Round Rock and Texas.  His 2.65 xFIP is the best on the team, and his 3.63 tERA is the second best on the team, trailing only Scott Feldman (he of the two innings pitched).

Why he should go:  He, like Hunter and Lowe, can be optioned.  In addition, as a sidearming righthander, he's something of a specialist, someone you want to face an righthander or two, but not use against a lefty (lefthanders have a 6.22 FIP against him this year, although just a 3.07 xFIP -- you can argue he's unlucky on his HR% against lefties, or you can argue that lefties are going to have a higher HR/FB rate because he's a sidearmer).  With a bunch of other righthanded arms in the bullpen, if he's viewed as a specialist, he may be seen as a luxury the team can't afford to carry.

Outlook:  He's probably on the bubble, though he doesn't deserve to be on the bubble based on his performance.  Like Hunter, he's probably not much better than a 50/50 shot to still be on the 25 man roster on Monday.

 

* * *

What makes it harder to predict what is going to happen here is the fact that the pitchers who have performed the worst this season, and who, on the surface, would seem most likely to be dropped if the Rangers added a new reliever, are Neftali Feliz and Arthur Rhodes.  Feliz isn't likely to be sent down, for a host of reasons, and letting Rhodes go would mean only having one lefty reliever in the bullpen.

Part of the problem is that the Ranger bullpen isn't full of terrible pitchers right now...rather, it is full of mediocre pitchers, at least one of whom will most likely not be on a major league roster come August 1.

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Rhodes please.

"It was wrote." by boomer1 on Jul 12, 2011 3:41 PM CDT

by bagsofnothing on Jul 29, 2011 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Hmm in order of importance in my mind at the moment

1. Oliver
2. Feliz
3. Lowe
4. Tateyama
5. Hunter
6. Feldman
7. Rhodes

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by lamron on Jul 29, 2011 11:32 AM CDT reply actions  

I just don't see a spot for Feldman and Rhodes in this 'pen

I understand Rhodes can get some lefties out, but he’s not that good at keeping them off the bases for a LOOGY. Feldman sucks.

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by NothinG on Jul 29, 2011 11:37 AM CDT reply actions  

I find it hard to see spots for either

I guess you keep Rhodes there just to pitch in blowout games so that Wash doesn’t bring Oliver into games where they’re up 20-3…

As for Feldman, maybe they should include him + 80% of his salary in whatever trade they make?

Go Rice Owls!
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by JBImaknee on Jul 29, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Scooter

isn’t making the roster juggle easy
i like the idea of including him in the deal back to SD (or wherever)
i think he’d have some success pitching in that park, and could be a right-now rotation option for them

by CO Ranger on Jul 29, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is the type of pitcher a rebuilding team could use

realtively cheap, can eat some innings.

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by RangerMad on Jul 29, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, he's relatively cheap if we eat his salary...

Go Rice Owls!
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by JBImaknee on Jul 29, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just thinking

but SD doesn’t really need to pay much for pitching since most passable ML-quality arms will do better than average there

their resources, you’d think, should be allocated disproportionately towards offensive players, or players that produce offensively and also add some defensive value

they obviously have to travel, but you could see them doing well with average pitchers and top-notch position players

by CO Ranger on Jul 29, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

For San Diego

- and really any West Coast team, other than maybe the LA clubs – I have long thought the best strategy is to acquire solid pitching who may come cheaper due to one weakness in HR/9 or low K/9. They’ll look great in those ballparks regardless. Then I would put the savings into good defense (more balls in play means defense is more valuable) and guys whose offensive game is built around speed and getting on base.

Literally, West Coast teams, and especially the Padres, need to win low scoring games. Work a walk, steal a base, score on a single. You do that more than the other teams. Don’t make your home field a disadvantage, build around it and make your home field advantage stronger than any other team’s.

Now, things get weird because they have to play against non-coastal, West division clubs like Arizona, Colorado, and Texas who have the opposite consideration.

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by JBImaknee on Jul 29, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

tough call

Can’t see JD just giving away Feldman. I think it comes down to Hunter or Yoshi and who Ron has more confidence.

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by RangerMad on Jul 29, 2011 11:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Rhodes?

hes been worse than both those guys

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by blalock84 on Jul 29, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Ron may want to keep hm as a LOOGY

But, I could see Oliver being sota put into that role.

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by RangerMad on Jul 29, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe they should make Feliz the LOOGY after The Trade

Go Rice Owls!
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by JBImaknee on Jul 29, 2011 11:40 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

What good is a lefty reliever...

if he can can’t hold lefties to better than a .734 OPS? If he can’t get out lefties then he shouldn’t be on the team.

Plus his commercial with Oliver and Murphy really sucks. Oh wait… that applies for every commercial they put out this year.

by TRanger on Jul 29, 2011 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Moreland should not get a line in a commercial. period.

he is the worst

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by NothinG on Jul 29, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rhodes goes regardless in my opinion.

Heath Bell is a closer being converted to setup guy. He should face lefties and righties in the 8th inning. You shouldn’t need 2 lefthanders to get your team through the 7th inning. This is a no brainer. Rhodes makes me cringe every time he steps on the mound.

by Rangers Fan Mike on Jul 29, 2011 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe they'll throw in Yoshinori Weinke

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by cmkelly29 on Jul 29, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where's Hideki Aikman in all this talk?

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by matthewbschultz83 on Jul 29, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

We only get him if we offer Kazuo Bledsoe

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by cmkelly29 on Jul 29, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Ichiro Plummer. I like it.

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by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 29, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rhodes Makes the most sense

In the playoffs, Harry or Dutch get moved to the bullpen anyways, and then you have 2 lefties in the pen again.

by hookemfox on Jul 29, 2011 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice career Arthur Rhodes

But you are 41, and not performing to expectations. You recently gave up a home run to lefty Jason Kubel. Bad timing. If you would have blown him away, or induced him into a weak grounder or pop out, I’m ok. If you are not effective against leftys, I am very apprehensive about bringing you into ALCS game 2 in the 8th inning in Fenway Park with the Rangers up 3-2 and ((((gulp)))) Adrian Gonzalez steps up to the plate. Substitute Adrian Gonzalez for David Ortiz, Robinson Cano, Carl Crawford, or Curtis Granderson.

Hunter and Lowe have been shaky at times, but I think they have a niche or team track record that is better than Rhodes. Tateyama has pitched well enough to stay. Did I mention that he’s 41?

by stormdude3603 on Jul 29, 2011 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Carl Crawford

does not belong on that list this year.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jul 29, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arthur Rhodes is clearly number one on the cut list.

They aren’t going to keep him around just because he’s left-handed when he’s no longer really even trusted in those situations.

If we pick up a second reliever, I see Tommy Hunter getting sent down, maybe to get more consistent work out of the bullpen in late inning relief.

by MikeEl on Jul 29, 2011 12:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Hunter Rhodes...

If they add a lefthander to the bullpen, Arthur Rhodes is the easy choice to be designated for assignment.

If they add a righthander, I’d say send Tommy Hunter down and get him starting every fifth day in Round Rock. I believe at the moment that the only pitchers in the minor leagues on Texas’s 40-Man Roster currently starting are Eric Hurley (Triple-A) and Miguel de los Santos (High-A). They might want another option if something unforeseen happens requiring another starter and I think Hunter could be the best choice. I suppose Scott Feldman could be asked to make a spot start, but they can’t send Feldman to Round Rock.

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by YourNameHere on Jul 29, 2011 12:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I love Yoshi

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by Pith on Jul 29, 2011 12:13 PM CDT reply actions  

hunter and feldman both have trade value

they are both proven starters. they can both be considered for relief roles. and they both have that sort of reclamation potential that GM’s pat themselves on the back for (supposedly) recognizing. and they both have no clear role on the ranger staff now.

and rhodes should be traded to a vfw softball league for 3 coolers of cold beer.

by DaveHostetlersLoveChild on Jul 29, 2011 12:14 PM CDT reply actions  

it's hard to imagine that

he couldn’t be considered as a 4th starter on several weak staffs.
especially teams with young staffs still a couple of seasons from full maturity.
i can see that sell job being made.

by DaveHostetlersLoveChild on Jul 29, 2011 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Nope

I used to own Mickey Tettleton's couch.

by Pith on Jul 29, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually don't think it is impossible to see Feldman go in a trade for a reliever

but he would basically be a meaningless piece. Feldman + ~90% of his salary just thrown into the deal, simply for the purposes of creating a roster spot.

He has absolutely no value. You can’t have a good season out of the blue, then come back the next year and be awful, get injured, and two years later have any value left, particularly if you have a stupid expensive contract. The thought would be that a San Diego would take him back and pay a fraction of his salary just as a flyer.

Go Rice Owls!
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by JBImaknee on Jul 29, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Look at the pitchers Boston has brought in off of injury.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 29, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could see him being solid in SD.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 29, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are there pitchers that can't be?

And if so… should they be in the league?

by Brad on Jul 29, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Good point.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jul 29, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, Brett Tomko was reliably "solid" in SD. Pretty much any arm is solid there.

But I could see him having a teeny bit of value if Texas paid his salary. No risk to the Padres to take him in…

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by JBImaknee on Jul 29, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this team would over value having a second LHP

and send off feldman.

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by jonas m. on Jul 29, 2011 12:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm going to be ATX this weekend

What radio station carries the Rangers. I assume I can still get them on FSSW tomorrow and Sunday. But what about tonight? Local Feed?

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by matthewbschultz83 on Jul 29, 2011 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Good luck!

I haven’t found it yet. The Horn, 104.9 I thought was supposed to carry them, but the only time I heard the Rangers on that station was in the playoffs. AM 1260 is a long shot, but usually they have whatever ESPN is broadcasting. For me tonight, It is KBVO picking up the TV broadcast for TX21 in Dallas. No postgame show, but better than nothing!

by Philar on Jul 29, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mainly concerned about radio

Since I’ll be driving Friday/Sunday. Gonna miss the whole shabang on Saturday.

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by matthewbschultz83 on Jul 29, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

waco area station

u can get espn 1660 am as long as baylor does not have any sort of game. That will get you to about Georgetown. There is no FM station that carries the Ranger games in waco area. 103.3 espn out of dallas will not come in. You get stuck with NPR radio or something hideous that sounds like the commercial break is about to end……ten minutes later still talking advertisements!

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by Dallas Sports Fan on Jul 29, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

there is no room for both Feldman and Hunter

so I guess Hunter either gets dealt or he’s sent down. Nothing will happen w/ Feldman because of that contract :(

oh and cut Rhodes pls.

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by shock00 on Jul 29, 2011 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I am pretty much on the same page as you are.

I’m not sure Hunter is helping the team that much right now, and I think his value is as a starter. I would send him down to Round Rock and get him ready to go 7+ innings an outing in case a Ranger starter gets hurt. Feldman becomes the Dave Bush long reliever, if he is not already. Really, Rhodes, by lack of performance deserves to be released, but unless the Rangers have another lefty in the pen, that’s not happening.

by Philar on Jul 29, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rhodes has to go

There isn’t one nonrepulsive thing in his stat line. I can give up 2.31 HR/9 if asked to. This is the worst season of his 20 year career and he’s not getting any younger. Handedness shouldn’t count for a damn thing when considering him.

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by WyoRanger on Jul 29, 2011 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I could not stop smiling when Rhodes came in

thinking about the collective “fuck you’s” emanating from LSB last night. Played out exactly the way I thought it would.

by ab03 on Jul 29, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

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