Tuesday Morning Rangers Update
by ghostofErikThompson on Aug 23, 2011 8:01 AM CDT
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Big win for the Rangers after looking a little sluggish in the final games of the road trip. C.J. Wilson pitched well for 6 2/3 innings while Erik Bedard pitched decently for 6 1/2 hours.
T.R. Sullivan's game story is about the Rangers' ace Wilson. There are lots of quotes from various Red Sox that I will mentally pretend suggest perhaps a tinge of dread at the thought facing C.J. down the road when the climate is a bit cooler and the stakes are a lot higher.
Richard Durrett offers some post game reactions. I actually expected Bedard's painfully obvious game plan of stalling against the Rangers would have been a bigger story but Durrett is the only person to really mention it.
Nevertheless, Bedard was only delaying the inevitable. As Durrett writes, Mike Napoli came through with the big hit of the evening. That is something that can be said for a lot of games this season. Napoli has been great.
Durrett has a piece on C.J. coming up big against the best since he's been a starter.
Sullivan and Louie Horvath jointly note that the Jered Weaver contract extension could set the bar for C.J. Wilson's next contract, the Rangers checking in with the Orioles after Chris Davis claimed he felt his shoulder hurting him while still with the Rangers, and updates on Adrian Beltre and Andres Blanco as per usual.
I'd assume at this point that Beltre will get in a couple of games at the end of the Triple-A season and be back with the Rangers near the first week of September if, Nolan Ryan forbid, there are no further setbacks.
Jeff Wilson writes that the Rangers don't anticipate making any trades at the waiver deadline and that any additions to the team will likely come from call-ups after the rosters expand.
Anthony Andro explains to the rest of the American League that the Rangers are still league champs and if they want the pennant they'll have to come to Arlington to get it.
Matthew Reagan writes about Colby Lewis returning to form of late just in time for the stretch run.
MLB.com's Louie Horvath talked with the Rangers grounds crew about the challenges of keeping the field playable for a hot team in the middle of an unrelenting Texas summer.
Finally, David Thomas writes more about The Wave Wars at the Ballpark. Can't get enough of these wave articles, let me tell you. However, this is gold:
"One guy thought we were infringing on his constitutional rights for freedom of expression," said Chuck Morgan, the Rangers' senior vice president for in-park entertainment.
/Mike E?
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I hope the Rangers don't act like muppets
with the “bringing Beltre back successfully from injury” process.
i tell the truth; i lie a lot
Wave = freedom of expression
I love Americans.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
Dude's a regular Larry Flynt
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
King George tried to infringe upon our rights with the Wave Act of 1775
and look where that got him.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I must have missed when the Rangers became an extension of a sovereign government.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Oh yes.
it’s us and the Vatican
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
by Texfan1996 on Aug 23, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not Mike E
Mike E is a baseball/Rangers fan and wants his kids to have good time at the ballpark.
The guy that called me and threatened me with some legal action was some sort of activist. He couldn’t tell me the difference between a base hit and a strike out.
He told me that he had never been to a ballpark and if he could find it he would put a stop to my efforts to “squelching his constitutional rights of freedom of expression”.
I advised him that he better bring some help.
by chuckranger83 on Aug 23, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 16 recs
Are you serious Chuck?
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Oh wow
-- Micah
-- -- --
"I will picture Ian the next time I make love if he comes through here. " - River Fenix
-- -- --
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me
by The Best Micah on Aug 23, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Ho...lee...CRAP.
That’s next-level retarded.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
good god.
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Aug 23, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
haha thats nuts
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Let him move to Oakland or Seattle and do the wave there.
Trust me it won’t take long to get around the park and he will be standing more than sitting.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Hey Chuck....I was on vacation this past summer listening to the Rangers via XM, sipping on cold ones and letting the creative side of my mind wander..
You play “Ring of Fire” whenever an opposing pitcher is getting his tail kicked / getting a visit from the mound and it is a great song. I think you can make greater use of it.
The Yankees play “New York, New York” and the Red Sox play both “Dirty Water” (when they win) and “Sweet Caroline” after the top of the 8th.
How about making “Ring of Fire” the Ranger equivalent to “Sweet Caroline.”…perhaps make that the nickname of RBiA and sell oh-so-cool t shirts as well.
It’s a great song because it’s timeless. It has southern roots, cuts across all demographics and is easy to sing. I’m a 40 something white rocker myself but I still love Johnny Cash and that song.
Just a thought….you’re awesome at your job and we’re extremely fortunate to have you.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Aug 23, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I certainly feel like I've stepped in to a Ring of Fire
when I attend at RBiA in August. :-/
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
It is what it is and there's never going to be a roof over it or A/C...embrace it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Aug 23, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep but it's easier to ignore when you are winning!
And kuddos to the fans who keep showing up despite the heat.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Someone told me that song
Was about drilling some chick with an STD…..true? Am I the only one who was unaware of this?
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
I've never known or read the lyrics
To be perfectly honest. I just know that the words I do know sound like it could make sense. If I fully believed it I wouldn’t have asked if it was true. Full disclosure: I’m not a big Johnny Cash fan and I never saw Walk the Line.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Geez i doubt that.
June Carter Cash co-wrote it.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
His wife wrote the song
I don’t think she’s writing songs about having sex with women with STDs.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 23, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL, not hardly
Wiki -
Although “Ring of Fire” sounds somewhat ominous, the term refers to falling in love – which is what June Carter was experiencing with Johnny Cash at the time. Some sources claim that June had seen the phrase, “Love is like a burning ring of fire,” underlined in one of her uncle A. P. Carter’s Elizabethan books of poetry.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Look at the big brain on bking!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Aug 23, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks King
I was going to look at Wiki, but it’s blocked here.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Staying or taking your ball and going home with a pouty lip?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Aug 23, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
That's not called for
Don’t instigate.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 23, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
THAT qualifies as trying to "instigate" ? It's not like I said...
“You are the stupidest man on this board
and don’t understand a god damn thing that anyone is trying to tell you.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Aug 23, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
/facepalm/
I voted “I hate it!” on the ST poll….My only issue is that there was no category higher than “I hate it!”
Keep up the fantastic work, Chuck!!!
"There are two times in my life the hairs on my arms stood up: The first time I saw the Sistine Chapel and the first time I saw Sandy Koufax throw a fastball."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Aug 23, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I googled "baseball organization as quasi-state actor" and came up with zilch.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
That was my first thought, and what prompted me to search on google.
And then I quickly thought of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCouiC4dgFg
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Don't know if this was discussed
but Chris Davis apparently hid his shoulder injury during the trade proceedings.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
hey we'll send them Feldman as compensation
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
by shock00 on Aug 23, 2011 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I do like JD's proactive response and I think it bodes well in the industry.
even after big Z from Seattle tried to throw JD under the bus last year with the Lueke incident…pretty sure JD came out on top of that.
I remember a few years ago when the reds? and nationals made a trade. Not long after one of the pitchers complained of soreness in his elbow or something and that he had had it for a while. all the while, the organization knew…and even provided a cortisone shot?
I remember that being pretty ugly.
JD's approach is amazingly refreshing to me.
Actually being proactive and doing the right thing. It may be difficult to manage in the short term (possibly costing an additional prospect) but long term will pay dividends with a better reputation and teams willing to make deals with the rangers.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
hopefully he doesn't have to
considering Crash Davis told Baltimore something along the lines of, “yeah it started hurting while in Texas…but I never told them.”
hopefully whatever happens
doesn’t result in Davis returning to Texas…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I didn't get what happened last night...
Did the umpire say that Napoli was leaning into the ball, or did he legitimately think that the ball never touched him?
by Perfect Zero on Aug 23, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Honestly I think the catch/no-catch call was worse
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
It did some damage on the scoreboard too
-- Micah
-- -- --
"I will picture Ian the next time I make love if he comes through here. " - River Fenix
-- -- --
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me
by The Best Micah on Aug 23, 2011 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
didn't get to see the game and can't find a replay for this one. what happened?
and how’d it damage the board?
Bloop hit in to right field, Gentry on 1st
Reddick comes in and makes a sliding basket catch just above the ground. Gentry gets caught in between 1b and 2b, not sure if Reddick caught it. Reddick throws back to 1b trying to double Gentry off, Gent goes to 2b.
Umpires say he trapped the ball. Replays looked otherwise, but Gentry ended up scoring on a hit the next AB.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
And it probably would've meant at least another run on a Hamilton sac fly
if Elvis hadn’t been such a knob and gotten thrown out trying to steal on Salty’s throw back to the pitcher.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Eh..
So we win 3-0 instead of 4-0.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
It didn't make a difference in the long run
but you still need to get that call right.
Don’t get me wrong, I thought it was a trap in real-speed, so I can’t blame the ump for seeing the same thing I saw. But with a quick jog over to a replay booth, that would easily be remedied.
And that, dear choir, is my sermon.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep, no impact in the long run
But it did change a 0-0 game to a 1-0 game, which can change tactical decisions.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Agreed.
But that’s sports. Sometimes you get the call and somethimes you don’t. Although last nights officiating was all around bad.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
That was an unbelievably bad call.
It did help the rangers but it was still bad, real bad.
Missing the ball that hit Naps on the wrist was a close call that I can understand an ump missing. That catch was not that close IMHO.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
Yowzers, I didn't realise Curtis Granderson has a higher wOBA than Adrian Gonzalez now.
i tell the truth; i lie a lot
Granderson is the AL MVP (on the morning of August 23).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I think it'll happen
the 3 bosox candidates will split votes and Bautista will lose too many from the “he’s not in the playoffs” crowd
I'm pretty close to on board with this
It’s pretty funny to me that on a team filled with massive egos and massive contracts (Texeira, A-rod, Jeter, Posada), guys like Granderson are actually putting up the best numbers.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I got blasted on Twitter for saying I like Granderson
Apparently it’s unacceptable to like a Yankee. But, seriously, he is a fantastic player, and he seems like a pretty good guy as well.
-- Micah
-- -- --
"I will picture Ian the next time I make love if he comes through here. " - River Fenix
-- -- --
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me
by The Best Micah on Aug 23, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
He's probably the one Yankee I like.
He did a series of blog posts on Yahoo’s baseball site last year that were pretty cool.
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
by colonialbob on Aug 23, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't mind Posada
-- Micah
-- -- --
"I will picture Ian the next time I make love if he comes through here. " - River Fenix
-- -- --
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me
by The Best Micah on Aug 23, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Rivera...
you gotta appreciate dominance and greatness…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Yeah
Him too. I can’t hate Mo.
-- Micah
-- -- --
"I will picture Ian the next time I make love if he comes through here. " - River Fenix
-- -- --
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me
by The Best Micah on Aug 23, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I definitely don't hate him.
I don’t think I can quite like him. Much respect though.
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
by colonialbob on Aug 23, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Not after the racism slam he took at Rangers fans
Fuck him and fuck his team with a rusty nail.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Aug 23, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
But yes on 8/23
He’s still the MVP.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Aug 23, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't say
who I thought should be the MVP, I said who will be the MVP.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Aug 23, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
There was some article a couple weeks ago
Said he looked up and counted and there were less than 10 black people in the stands.
Seems very short sighted to say/do.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Aug 23, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
If I was going to like any of them, it would be Granderson.
No question.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
hard to come up w/ a better candidate honestly
He’s been soo good
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
no question he's been fantastic
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
He's really good but his team is mediocre and hasn't played a meaningful game since late June.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I'll just say it's not his fault that his team is mediocre. Only so much a man can do.
We all have different criteria for determining MVP, I’ll just stick to the good ol’ best overall player no matter what team he plays on criteria.
I’d like to see Bautista win, but it wouldn’t be totally annoyed if Granderson ended up getting.
i tell the truth; i lie a lot
The crowd who lets WAR drag them around by the nose has an agenda and they
really want Joey Bats to win the MVP because it furthers their cause.
I prefer to use WAR as a piece of information instead of THE determining factor when it comes to choosing MVP.
When assembling MVP candidates, I look at the best teams and their WAR leaders but that’s just one element.
Granderson is a middle of the order hitter and CF for one of the best teams in the AL. He hits bombs, steals bases and he’s one of the reasons the Yankees didn’t skip a beat when ARod went down for 6 weeks.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
The problem with your argument is that Joey Bautista isn't some crusade of WAR
Throw WAR out the window and Joey Bautista is STILL the best player by far. He leads the league in homers, OBP, SLG, OPS, Walks and nobody is even close. He’s been by far the best offensive player in the American League.
If you want to disqualify players for non-contenders from the MVP discussion that is your right. Just don’t call it some crusade of WAR. The crux of Joey Bats argument goes far beyond WAR.
Joey Bats puts up the best offensive numbers and is the WAR Leader but that's not the name of the award.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
And you know I can keep going
Lots of MVP winners out there from 4th place teams.
How about you name one next
That is a fair argument.
But you said this
The crowd who lets WAR drag them around by the nose has an agenda and they really want Joey Bats to win the MVP because it furthers their cause.
Your point about this being a WAR-crusade is flat out wrong. The argument is about the best player being the MVP, not necessarily the WAR leader.
Your shoe-horning of WAR into this argument is proof that you are, in fact, the one with the agenda. An anti-WAR agenda.
I'm getting serious Deja Vu here...
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
WAR, huh, what is it good for?
/obligatory
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
by colonialbob on Aug 23, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I said that I use WAR as a way to determine who some of the MVP candidates are. How the fuck is that anti-WAR?
If you let WAR be the determining factor, that means you think Adrian Beltre, Mike Napoli and Ian Kinsler have been more valuable to the Rangers this year than Michael Young or Josh Hamilton.
Beltre has missed a month and can’t hit on the road.
Napoli missed a month and spent the first half of the season in a platoon.
Kinsler has been a great player at home but he’s Judy Borbon on the road (.286 OBP / .655 OPS).
Michael Young has not only been healthy all season, he’s been one of the best hitters in the AL and also filled a variety of roles both offensively and defensively.
And then there’s Josh…60-33 when he’s not on the DL, 14-22 when he is on the DL. The Rangers score what, 1.5-2 runs more per game when he’s in the lineup.
So you see, it’s really dumb to let WAR be THE determining factor when choosing an MVP.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Aug 23, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
You are the stupidest man on this board
and don’t understand a god damn thing that anyone is trying to tell you
by ab03 on Aug 23, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I understand what they're saying, I just don't accept it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Aug 23, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Your MVP criteria merely fills column inches
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
Bautista for MVP has nothing to do with WAR
in fact, WAR probably hurts his cause because it forces you to take into account his defense at a not very valuable position.
So, as usual, you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
Let's just forget about defense altogether, actually.
That seems fair.
/Face-for-MVPers
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
B-b-b-but he plays bad defense
AT TWO DIFFERENT POSITIONS!
Heh. Much love for the Face. Just not MVP love.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
BUT HE'S IN THE CONVERSATION, WILDCAT.
THE CONVERSATION!!!!
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Face should be in the conversation...one of the best players on
one of the best teams in the AL.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Aug 23, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Second half Rangers MVP
Young or Napoli?
Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011
Tie
With the breaker going to Naps due to not being awful at 3B.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
But... he skull-f'ed that popup!!!!
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
geographic slur
If the Jays were in the AL Central, they’d be 3.5 games out and in the thick of it (ahead of both the Indians and White Sox).
“meaningful” is a term mediots use. They’re all meaningful.
Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011
No problem with that.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Aug 23, 2011 9:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ha
“One guy thought we were infringing on his constitutional rights for freedom of expression,”
Jeez, dude. It’s not like it’s illegal. Just frowned upon. Like masturbating on an airplane.
Honey Badger don't give a shit!
so...is it infringing upon the rangers free speach right
to say it’s a harmful act and could cause serious injury?
I think the rangers may have a case! what say you LSB lawyers? :D
dadgum litigious country
Bobby Bowden would be proud
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Thanks a lot Bin Laden
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
by Texfan1996 on Aug 23, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The "right" to do something does NOT make it right to do it.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
Many, many people don't get that important distinction...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
True point bking!
It frustrates me from time to time then I realize that roughly half the people have a below average IQ.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
.......
But wont they always?
"My expectations today are that we're going to be extremely competitive and if we don't win our division, I'll be disappointed." Nolan Ryan
...
/wonders which half redbiggs is in
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Would you remmeber which half I'm in
or would you have to realize it each time?
"My expectations today are that we're going to be extremely competitive and if we don't win our division, I'll be disappointed." Nolan Ryan
Couldn't stand him pre-Rangers.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Aug 23, 2011 8:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Same
But, yeah, I almost want a Napoli shirsey. If he stays after this season, done deal.
-- Micah
-- -- --
"I will picture Ian the next time I make love if he comes through here. " - River Fenix
-- -- --
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me
by The Best Micah on Aug 23, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Next year is his final arb year.
He’ll be here for 2012 for sure.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
Oh
I thought he was a one-year guy, for some reason.
-- Micah
-- -- --
"I will picture Ian the next time I make love if he comes through here. " - River Fenix
-- -- --
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me
by The Best Micah on Aug 23, 2011 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Since his return from the DL he has been the best Ranger.
Seriously, if he had put up those numbers in the first half As well he would be an AL MVP frontrunner.
by dumdum000333 on Aug 23, 2011 9:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I likes the comments that Tag made last night about Nap's
How would the AL west race look IF Nap’s was performing like this for the Angels and not the Rangers?
Would it be enough to put the Angles ahead of the Rangers? Don’t know but damn glad he is here and performing the way he is.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
Napoli needs his own line of beer
His mug needs to at least decorate some cans.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. Feel free to email me about anything.
by Conjunction on Aug 23, 2011 8:57 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I would buy it
-- Micah
-- -- --
"I will picture Ian the next time I make love if he comes through here. " - River Fenix
-- -- --
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me
by The Best Micah on Aug 23, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I bet his mug has been all over a number of "cans"
ask Scioscia’s daughter!
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Aug 23, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Is this just a meme
or does Scioscia actually have a daughter?
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
I'm a Web & TV Sports Producer at WFAA. Feel free to email me about anything.
When the meme becomes fact, print the meme
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
"Can o' Grease"
It’s Napotastic!
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
OH MY GOD WE NEED THIS SHIRT. Via Richard Durrett
The shirt had a picture of Mike Napoli wearing a chef’s hat and holding a spatula with the words: “On the Menu” beside his smiling face. On the back of the shirt, it read: “Turkey Sandwich.”
The shirt was created because the players joked earlier this season that with longer hair, Napoli looked like the chef that cooks food in the visiting clubhouse in Detroit.
I like steak.
Someone added a clip to Naps walkup music too
You could here someone ordering a turkey sandwich over the music….we thought at first that we were picking up a drive thru or something.
“Uhmm I’d like to order a turkey sandwich”
by Pocket Ninja on Aug 23, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
They’re having fun. As a result, the fans are too.
-- Micah
-- -- --
"I will picture Ian the next time I make love if he comes through here. " - River Fenix
-- -- --
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me
by The Best Micah on Aug 23, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Lot of great things about that win last night....namely the ace of the staff stamped out a potential
slump against a quality opponent. Good teams that are going to make post-season noise win games like that.
I said last week the race in the AL West was ovah but I don’t want any drama. Since the bottom of the 9th of last Thursday, the Angels have been acting strangely, like they want to make one of those miracle runs for a division but CJ wasn’t going to make life any easier for them. Gawd, I’m gonna miss him next year.
17-12 (.586) since the Beltre injury.
Are the Colorado Rox still alive?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Well... the Angels did get Baltimore.
And tried their best to lose that game after giving up 2 in the top of the 12. If Kevin Gregg wasn’t absolutely awful they go 2-1 that series.
"I'll text AJM a picture of my junk if he wants to use it" by ab03 on Jul 7, 2011 9:30 PM CDT
And if Mike Adams doesn't STBF, the Angels go 0-4 against us.
The reason I’m leery of the Angels making a run is because I can’t imagine them being in a lower place than they were going into the bottom of the 9th last Thursday. They were staring at the Grim Reaper and seem to have come thru that bit of adversity better for it. It wasn’t just sweeping Baltimore (no big accomplishment), it’s the fact that they had another miracle rally to win on Saturday.
We stumbled this past weekend but last night CJ did what an ace was supposed to do…stop a losing streak.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Time for my stupid question of the day....
What is STBF?
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
S*** the bed fantastic
It’s a meme from last year, which is all-too-often used for the smallest of failures.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Yes.
This.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Agreed
Adams giving up a single and then a dong to the Angels only real power threat is a fuckup, but hardly “shitting the bed fantastic.”
Kevin Gregg, on the other hand…
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Thank you.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
Would like to see Tulo repeat last year
He hit like 15 homeruns in September.
by dumdum000333 on Aug 23, 2011 9:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
that Kins play last night made me go clean the kitchen
just sayin.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
I haven't gone from rage to happytown that quickly in a long time
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
new wedgefest post
http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/8/22/2378498/re-wedgefest-9-10-11
http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/8/22/2378498/re-wedgefest-9-10-11
http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/8/22/2378498/re-wedgefest-9-10-11
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
I expect some legendary signs, ladies and gents
The gauntlet has been thrown.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
BP was $$ last night
I seriously want to do sexings on JD, Koji, and Mike Adams all at the same time.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Word
JD’s been absolutely on-point this year with the wheeling and dealing. Adams, Uehara, Yoshi, LLB, Beltre, ’Vit, not-trading-Face.
Every single one of those guys has been huge this season. If not for Arthur Rhodes (who most of us thought was a good signing), I’d say the Ninja was batting 1.000 this season on the FA signings/trades.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Brandon Webb says hello.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
that was a pretty no harm no foul signing.
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Aug 23, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll be honest
Brandon Webb has not crossed my mind in over two months. So I’ll grant you that.
But it’s not like the complete and total faceplant that was Rich Harden last season. Or Jorge Cantu.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Webb was easier to forget just because he never really got here.
But it is amazing that we paid 3 million bucks and he will never pitch a single inning for us. Shows how far we have come along.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
I have trouble believing the Rangers ever seriously considered Webb as a viable option.
Pay him the $3 million, hope he pans out.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I think if we didnt take the chance someone else would have.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Of course they would
Half the league was in on Webb. Not necessarily at that price but plenty of teams were kicking the tires.
Lol JD can take this approach with me anytime
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey JD!!
I can not pitch for you too! And for only a 1/3 of the price!
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Brandon Webb has one of the best agents in all of professional sports.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Yep
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Aug 23, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Colby signed with Texas b/c he new the organization
He turned down more money to be here
"My expectations today are that we're going to be extremely competitive and if we don't win our division, I'll be disappointed." Nolan Ryan
Also I believe we were the only ones
Willing to go 2 + option.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Aug 23, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I imagine insurance covered a large portion of that
our actual loss is likely similar to a minimum salary player
It's possible. I don't know enough about how it works.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Based on what?
The injury that has kept him out was the preexsiting condition he already had. What insurance company would cover that? And even if they did, wouldn’t the cost of the policy be pretty high?
Well, I wouldn't give credit for not trading Young...
I bet if Colorado had offered Charlie Blackmon and offered to pay, I dunno, 24 million? of Face’s contract, he’d be in Colorado.
But everything else apart from Webb and Rhodes has been turned out nicely.
I’d say a GM hitting on…75% of ML player acquisition deals is very good.
i tell the truth; i lie a lot
Add to that
That the 2 failed acquisitions were 1 year deals that were both easy to get rid of.
I think a certain division rival wished their GM would make mistakes that didn’t cost them for years to come.
Kinda sad nobody took my LLB bait
:(
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I couldn't figure out what LLB was
But I was trying to figure it out to avoid sounding ignorant.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
No worries, comrade
Just a failed attempt at covert meme insertion.
LLB= Long Lost Belushi.
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah
There’s been stretches over the past year or so where I’ve been out of commission on the comment threads for weeks at a time, so while I am familiar with most meme’s, some go over my head. Thanks for the clarification.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
our payroll is at 90 million dollars... that seems low to me....
I wonder what we would cap payroll at to sign some big name free agents? it seems like our team should be sitting around 120 million comfortably. although, if we can field a team like we have currently at 90 million more power to us.
by I am Neftali Feliz on Aug 23, 2011 9:58 AM CDT reply actions
we'll need the money for contract extensions
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not.
Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Our payroll is fine where it is right now
It will grow naturally given how our roster is constructed. Looking at next year if we keep the core of our team together we are looking at roughly 100-105 million. Thats without CJ. Resign him and it will be at close to 120 million and thats with no major additions this coming winter
Well before we sign any FA
there are a ton of raises coming next season for players already here. Not a whole buch coming off the books (Rhodes, Webb, Oliver, Bush and possibly CJ.) total $18M coming off next season. $18M is nice but there is $12.5M in raises due next season for Hammy, Beltre, Ian, Feldman and Colby. Net savings $5.5M before you deal with the arb eligible players, Nap, cruz, Murphy, O’Day, Lowe, Blanco and Harrison.
Even without resigning Cj or anothe FA we are looking at a payroll in the mid to high 90’s.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
Shit like this pisses me off
Davis told the Orioles that the shoulder started bothering him while he was still with the Rangers. But Daniels said Davis never told the Rangers about the injury or reported for treatment.
If you’re fucking hurt go see the god damned trainer. I don’t understand assholes who refuse to walk down the hall and get free, first class medical treatment then wan’t to complain about why they have nagging injuries later. That last little clause there may or may not apply to Davis, but it fits the profile for someone involved in the type of slapdickery I’m talking about.
I don't blame Crash for not complaining while he was here.
Last thing he wanted to see happen was to go out of the lineup..
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Yeah.
he had to have been concerned about sticking with the big club. But if you are hurt you have to say something.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
what makes me really understand Davis here is
he’s fighting for playing time. He would have rather been on the field than worry about a shoulder. I’m sure baseball players have nagging joints all the time. this one was just a meaningful nagging shoulder that got worse
Give me a break
You want to earn the respect of your organization? Getting hurt and not telling anyone is the last thing to do. It is selfish and shortsigned and stupid.
If Davis really was hurt and didn’t tell anyone since he didn’t want to lose playing time, then that is even more reason to be glad that we’re through with him.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Totally agree
You see it every year with every team. Very shortsighted by the athlete. Of course it probably gets praised as “toughness” and “heart” by some. The reality is that it is just plain stupid.
you're making the assumption that he was HURT while on the rangers
often baseball players play with sore bodies.
you can easily also make the assumption that he was sore and that it got worse when he went to Baltimore. perhaps he made a diving stop at first…or a check swing.
players get ragged on when they don’t play through a “nagging injury.” Not only from fans..but from fellow players.
Jones, who has spent his entire career with the Braves and is one of the franchise’s all-time great players, told the newspaper that Heyward has to learn to play through aches and pains as he and many of his teammates do. “What Jason needs to realize is that Jason at 80 percent is a force, and Jason at 80 percent is better than a lot of people in this league,” Jones said. “And that there are a bunch of his teammates that are out there playing with discomfort and not healthy, and still going at it.” Heyward is batting .214 with seven homers …
now...
after all that. don’t get me wrong. if you have a sore body…go talk to the trainer and make sure it is just sore. not broken.
Nolan used to say that he would pitch sore but not hurt.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
I think there is a difference
like the old adage about pornography – you know it when you see it. If you play sports for a living, you should know when you are sore and banged up and when you may actually be injured.
I think if he was just sore when in Texas, then he shouldn’t tell the O’s that he was injured while in Texas. If he was injured while in Texas, then he’s in the wrong for not addressing it at the time.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Right
When you do something all the time you begin to know whats normal and what is “not right”. I di a real physical job for 15 years and the few times where i developed something out of the norm it always turned out to be serious.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
I feel like you don't know what you're talking about here
I’m not sure you’re wrong, but what’s your basis for suggesting players should know the difference between “sore” and “injured”?
Sore is something that happens on a regular basis.
These guy have been playing ball for a long time and most are familiar with what their bodies are telling them. Hurt is a pain that you normally do not get and is bad enough to get your attention. Sore legs, stiffness, nagging little pains tend to be normal. But when you get a something that is new and constant and just won’t go away in a few days then it may be something more serious.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
I see your point
But if I remember correctly I was reading a story recently with Neil Ramirez, I think it was, where he was saying that his shoulder was sore and bothering him. He got an MRI and everything was fine. He mentioned in the article that he had never felt that before. He’s not as old as Davis, but I’d say he’s been pitching quite a while. If Davis was a hot prospect or an established vet I would agree with those who say he’s selfish and stupid. B/c of the situation he was in, I can hardly blame the guy.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
He was smart to get it checked out.
Better safe than sorry. The worst thing he could have done was ignoring it. Maybe Davis just did not want to know because he was afraid of what the news might be.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Perhaps
But I also think that he probably looked at this as possibly his last chance to get traded or get a shot at some meaningful AB’s and re-stablish his value. It may not have affected his bat, so maybe he just wanted to see if it would heal/go away on its own rather than go on the DL and watch the trade deadline go by and miss an opportunity to get some AB’s for the Rangers in a pennant race.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
I would tend to think the former.
Chris knew he was looking like the odd man out here and may have been hoping to get somewhere that would give him more regular ML playing time and less pressure to perform right away. Either way I wish him the best in the future.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
I think you bring up a good point
but I bet if you told the trainer you were sore every time you were sore, then the trainer would start making fun of you
Agree
But you have to be smart enough to know the difference.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
I still don't see why you don't just walk into the training room
and say “Hey, my shit kinda hurts, could you check it out for me?” If it’s nothing, then fine. If it is serious, then you’re only going to make it worse by trying to pretend it doesn’t hurt.
by blakethegr8 on Aug 23, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope Adrien Beltre is reading this thread
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Along with his cousin, Adrian Beltre
Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum
by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Really?
You don’t see why someone fighting for a major league job, trying to prove himself, would be reluctant to let the team know that he might be hurt?
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 23, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
So the doctor/surgeon asks
“How long has this been going on…” seeking a diagnosis, and Crush should cover it up?
Yeah, actually
Because if you were covering it up before, then you better cover it up still. Otherwise, the whole thing is pretty selfish.
Call me crazy
But go ahead and be selfish when you’re trying to get a major injury corrected by a doctor
I think JD ends up looking good, honestly
Crush probably told the Orioles that he never told the Rangers staff about the injury, so we don’t look dishonest.
Moreover, it appears JD offered to remedy the situation regardless of that fact.
Who knows what is going on behind the scenes, though
I can see it in that I understand what he was thinking.
The same way I understand what Bernie Madoff was thinking. He wanted more money.
If by “see” you mean, do I think it’s a reasonable thing to do? Then no, I don’t see it.
by blakethegr8 on Aug 23, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Really?
You’re comparing a player trying to play through an injury with Bernie Madoff?
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 23, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
what if it was a player on the Mets?
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
by JBImaknee on Aug 23, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think you're fully aware that I wasnt making a direct comparison
It was an example of a very bad idea that has a rational basis.
by blakethegr8 on Aug 23, 2011 10:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And I think you're fully aware that his point
Which was very valid, is that it was a terrible analogy.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
then unsubscribe to my newsletter
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by blakethegr8 on Aug 23, 2011 10:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I havent read the other comments here......but if Davis says he's hurt, he doesnt get traded and he doesn't get a new start somewhere.
I can understand why he didn’t say anything until after he was traded.
- sports are fun. -
I think he wanted to be a starter
somewhere else bad enough, so he didn’t say anything to to hold up a trade
by Rube Baker on Aug 23, 2011 12:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Just out of curiosity
What is the general consensus here about re-signing CJ? If we fail to keep CJ, does anyone think that we’ll make a real run at Prince and trade Moreland?
I’m a huge Moreland fan and I think it’s pretty obvious that if we lose CJ our rotation will be in more need of help than our offense, but the thought of Prince’s patience and power in this lineup and this ballpark really does something for me.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
There is no consensus.
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by jam0152 on Aug 23, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This the Angrydome
We don’t do “consensus.”
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by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
doubtful they go after Prince
he’s going to command a huge contract and I don’t think the Rangers are going to be able to pay it. they need to more concerned about keeping some of the players they already have long term.
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It all depends on the payroll level the rangers are comfortable with going forward.
Next year without CJ the Rangers are going to push $100M and have no LHRP.
Figure out where the Rangers payroll is going to be and then we can argue how to spend any $$$ that may be available.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
I think CJ will earn his contract
The Rangers just have to decide on the best allocation of resources. We’re in a great position to be in. Our offense is in superb standing without signing one of the major FA first basemen.
Additionally, our rotation is deep and talented, and we have Feliz and Martin Perez ready to step into the rotation the next 2 years for CJ and Colby if need be.
The Rangers have money to spend and no glaring holes, which means we should only get better this next off-season.
I'd top out at an offer of 5/90...
if he takes it great, if not, I think you have to let him go.
After all, the Rangers can say that’s more than what Weaver got, with the Texas tax advantage to boot.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
That tax advantage is a played out meme
And not really true.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Aug 23, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
It was kind of our only hope at signing FA's for a long while
“But, but, but, $20 million Texas dollars are more than $50 million New York dollars when you consider the tax difference!”
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by WildcatPhoenix on Aug 23, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not just the tax difference
It’s also the general cost of living difference, and the cost of living makes dollars in Texas have more buying power than in New York or the major metropolitan areas in California. And folks around here just seem to assume that all athletes are stupid and don’t care about issues like that.
I agree with you
But to play devil’s advocate, CJ is from Cali and probably wants to buy (if he doesn’t already own) a house out there regardless of where he signs. Just a thought.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Exactly
Probably only half the team lives here in the off season. And you have to pay a pro rata share of taxes based on where income is earned. So if we play 28 games in California. 28/162’s of your salary will be taxed in Californina.
I think it has less to do with quality of life and setting your family up – hey Feldman can do that if he never gets a deal after this one runs out and more about ego. I’m a 100 million dollar contract player or I’m the highest paid player at my position, etc.
And frankly some may be agent ego driven.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Aug 23, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I worry about Martin Perez
A lot. And I may be crazy, but I’m thinking most realistic scenario with him is something very Holland-like for a few years. So I’m not sure he’ll be ready to replace Wilson until about 2015. I think we’ll see flashes of brilliance mixed in with 2 innings and 6 runs. I realize he’s very young, but his inconsistency in the minors is maddening.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Any chance the Rangers target the pen for him?
The rangers are in need of LHRP in the immediate future and a BP spot has been used successfully to develop a young pitcher.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
I think it's certainly possible in the short term
Though only as a September call-up as they want to make sure he continues to develop as a starter. They will give him every chance to start and if I were to bet, they will shut him down after the AAA playoffs due to innings, but if they do bring him up I’d bet it will be just to experience a pennant race in a major league clubhouse. I don’t see him pitching a single meaningful inning in the majors this year. Or next year for matter.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Thanks for your opinion.
I agree with you on the call ups for this season but was curious if they even consider him as a LHRP option next season as opposed to another season of SP in the minors. I have no strong opinion either way, just one of those thoughts that bouce in and around my head for a few minutes.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
I highly doubt they consider that.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
From reading Scott Lucas' recaps of his recent starts
It sounds to me like his command is very spotty from start to start, and sometimes from inning to inning. I can’t imagine they want to put a guy with TORP potential in the bullpen if there’s an opportunity to start him in a lesser league. My hope for Perez is that next year he can be a AAA All Star and start showing some consistency, which would still put him well ahead of where most guys his age are. If he has another season next year where he’s very erratic as often as not, I am going to begin to worry if he’ll ever reach his potential. Not saying I will expect it, but I will at least begin bracing myself to it to happen.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Just out of curiosity, how old do you think Martin Perez is?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
He's 20, right?
But he’s a pretty experienced 20 year old.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
He is 20.
And won’t turn 21 until next April.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Yep, I'm aware of that.
And I still have a ton of hope for him. But to put things into perspective for you, I sat next to Scott Servais at the Winter Awards Banquet for you a few years back and he told me that he’s the best 17 year old he’s ever seen in his life and he saw King Felix as a 17 year old. That got my hopes up pretty high, and I just worry about his command is all. Don’t get me wrong, I definitely haven’t given up on him, far from it, I just wish he’d have made a few more strides with his command by now. That’s all.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Don't know why I put that second "for you"
In there. Or why I can’t complete a post without replying to myself every time. Sorry.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
I just assumed you did aqua a favor..
Maybe he couldn’t make the banquet, so you sat next to Servais for him. Maybe he couldn’t be out of water long enough to attend.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Innings-wise
I would guess without looking it up that he’s thrown as many or more professional innings than Holland. I might be wrong, but I’d bet it’s pretty close.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Perez is short about 230 IP.
Holland has almost as many MLB IP as Perez has MiLB.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Sorry
I meant minor league innings. I knew Holland obviously has more total professional innings…that was a stupid comment by me. I’m not very good at multi-tasking. But that figure helps me a bit, b/c I feel like it will take another 200+ IP for Perez to get where Holland is now, which is still a bit inconsistent. Obviously they’re different pitchers, but that’s where I have my personal expectations. I don’t believe the whole “Perez will step in and fill CJ’s spot” comment that some throw out there.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Perez has way more MiLB inning than Holland did.
But Holland was drafted out of Juco and Perez signed as a 16-year-old.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I thought Holland had pitched
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by JDT217 on Aug 23, 2011 3:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought Holland had pitched for Princeton.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
by JDT217 on Aug 23, 2011 3:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No, he was a draft and follow from a JUCO
In Ohio.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Well maybe I'm just being overly critical
But Perez control problems worry me the same way that Feliz’ lack of secondary pitches worry me. I just find my confidence in him reaching his potential to be dipping a little. Hopefully in a few years everyone will be able to point this out and tell me how stupid I was.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
CJ gave one of the best interviews I think I've ever heard from a baseball player
today on Ben and Skin
I love his interviews—so candid
Talked about the Turkey Sandwich shirt, sabermetrics ( FB/HR% and FB% and why he succeeds at TBiA), and Jered Weaver talking about a possible extension at the ASG
Really?
So the Angels have had this one cooking for a while then. Nice job.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Just likes hearing himself talk.
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Would you give CJ the Weaver contract this offseason?
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If it would affect extending some of our position players in the future, then no
If we are just rolling in the dough, then yes.
by blakethegr8 on Aug 23, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I would
No question. It may backfire, but I think given all the factors, handedness, ability to pitch in our park, understanding of how to really pitch and showing improvement year after year, I do it.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
I would not
Our farm system is loaded… mostly with pitchers. Signing CJ means not being able to sign most of our position players, and that area is fairly weak in our farm system compared to the talented arms.
But if we were rolling in the dough and had the payroll of the Yankees, then yes. Of course. Sadly, this is not the case.
How do you know
The Rangers don’t have the money to do both? I don’t think any of us knows that.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Paging Mr. Simpson....
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
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Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I brought my checkbook bitches!
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Money doesn't grow on trees
Revenue may be increasing, but look at the guys that we’d need to resign (if so desired):
CJ Wilson – Will likely cost more than Weaver, unfortunately. 18-20 million /year
Ian Kinsler – We’ll exercise the 10 million option. Actual value may be somewhere around 17 million if he gives the Rangers a discount.
Mike Napoli – Yea, if he has another season like this, he is going to get a BIG contract from somebody. 15 million/year (if he repeats this season).
Yorvit Torrealba – Won’t cost nearly as much as Napoli, but may be due a raise if we want to keep him. Catchers in the farm are too far away to be ready in 2 years. 4-6 million / year?
Jo$h Hamilton – Probably the most costly player in terms of resigning. 20-25 million/year?
Nelson Cruz – Even during an off year, he has good numbers. 10 million/year?
Darren Oliver – Even if we don’t resign him, we need to sign a LHP for the pen.
Tally those up and tell me we have money. That isn’t even including arbitration costs.
We can get a LOOGY for cheap
Especially with the success that Uehara and Adams have against lefties. LHRP is one of the things I don’t lose too much sleep over.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
As I said I don't know what kind of money the new ownership has
and neither do you. People were saying the Rangers didn’t have money after the draft but they went out and dropped millions on the LA market.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Ray Davis is estimated to be worth 1.4 billion
and and Bob Simpson is also flush after the sale of XTO to Exxon Mobil. Plus we have the new TV contract. We are in a better position than ever before. Will they be willing to dip into their own pockets i don’t know but it sounds like they like to win.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Sounds like they were with Lee
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I think they will definitely spend
But I also think the reason that billionaires become billionaires more often than not is b/c they are extremely saavy businessmen. As long as we’re winning and drawing large crowds I think they’ll definitely spend, but I don’t think we’ll ever see them competing with the Yanks. There’s no way that we’re able to keep all of Cruz/Ham/Kins/CJ/Napoli. I hope I’m wrong, but I fully expect at least one or two to be gone.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
I should've said
Matching the Yanks. I guess we already “compete” with them financially.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
No i agree with that logic.
They dont strike me as the kind that throw money around but I also think that if they feel that the fit is good they won’t let the money get in the way. I doubt we will see another A-Rod deal from this group.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Great point Drew#'s
There’s no way that we’re able to keep all of Cruz/Ham/Kins/CJ/Napoli.
Why would they want to keep all of these guys as it would mean no room for any promotions from the farm.
They are going to have to make some tough decisions on this group but I do not see a way the rangers keep all of them. It will be tough to say goodbye to any of them but it is going to happen.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
and that's pro sports.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Yep
And the teams that become dynasty’s figure out a way to do that better than anyone. Knowing the right time to let a fan favorite walk is pretty huge. Tons of teams have let themselves dip into nice valleys b/c they hang on far too long. Houston Astros anyone?
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Pudge.
i wish he could have retired as a Ranger but they could not agree on numbers. I’m glad he got to win a ring though.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
I love me some Pudge
He’s gotta be my 2nd favorite Ranger ever. I don’t think I ever fully appreciated just how great he was when he was here.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
And he is a really good guy.
I told my sons when he is inducted that we may just have to break down and make the pilgrimage to Cooperstown to see that.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
What makes you say that?
Not disputing but I feel like I know very little about him or his personal life, one way or the other.
I had a friend who lived across the street from him so I know some small bits of info about his personal life. Don’t really know anything else.
I was lucky enough to meet him a few times
My folks are from Puerto Rico and Cuba and when he first came up him and a few other players came to my folks house so that she could cook them some real island dishes. Years laters he found out that he was my daughters favorite player and came over again to visit and eat so my view is kind of bias. I have a photo of my twins sitting in his lap and told them we would try and get another with him maybe at the ceremony.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
That's pretty awesome.
The closest I can come to that is that I used to have a condo in North Dallas that was 5 minutes from Josh Howards house and I took my brother by to show him his house and he was taking out the trash and I yelled J HO at him and he said what’s up. It was awesome.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
The first time he had just joined the team
from AA in 1991. He was only 19 and was fascinated by my dads bug zapper out by the pool. But what I thought was great was that he remembered my folks enough to come back to visit just for the sake of my daughter getting to meet him in 1999 even after he had achieved fame and money.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Yep
That’s very cool. You can tell the times he’s been honored here too that he’s very appreciative of it. Seems like a pretty humble guy.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Thanks
I hope he gets into the Hall ok. Some people think he might be hurt by the whole steriod use rumors.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Did/does your friend live in Montclair?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Yeah
And I don’t even think any of those guys are really blocking anyone, unless I’m missing someone. We’re pretty thin at the COF positions in the upper minors, and I can’t think of any 2B who will be ready to take Kins spot unless they decide to move Profar and play he and Elvis next to each other. Kins is the one that I want to keep most of everybody b/c I think his skill set will age well. I’m probably in the minority there though.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
I share your concern...
with being able to bring back most of those guys.
But Oliver and Torrealba don’t belong on that list.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
It's important to understand that while the Rangers farm is loaded
You’re not banking on farm guys to replace CJ. You’re banking on Holland/Harrison taking the next step in their development and replacing CJ and Perez/Ramirez/Ross (who I admittedly like more than most) replacing Holland in the next year or two.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
From Over the Monster...
I’ve got nothing against the Rangers as a team. They seem like a pretty decent bunch of guys, Lone Star Ball isn’t Halos Heaven, and they managed to knock the Yankees out of the playoffs last year (no, seriously, thanks for that), but God if I don’t dread playing them more than any other team in the game right now.
by John08Patriot on Aug 23, 2011 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Remember when we would have never rated this kind of comment?
Damn but it’s fun to be Ranger fan right now!
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
No doubt.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
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