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Sunday a.m. Rangers stuff

ARLINGTON, TX - AUGUST 27: Mike Napoli #25 of the Texas Rangers is hit by a pitch in the sixth inning against the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim in at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington on August 27, 2011 in Arlington, Texas. (Photo by Rick Yeatts/Getty Images)

There will be no sweep.  Ervin Santana gave up 4 runs on 7 innings, which should put the Rangers in a good position, but C.J. Wilson and Koji Uehara had poor outings, and thus the Rangers are looking to Colby Lewis against a short-rest Jered Weaver to take the series and get the lead back up to three games.

At the end of the day on July 27, the Rangers' lead over the Angels was 2 games.  A month later, with Anaheim having had the easier schedule during that stretch, the Rangers' lead is still 2 games.  BP gives the Rangers an 80.4% chance of winning the division, and Cool Standings gives the Rangers a 70.7% chance.  

While this is a pretty big game, the date I'd circle on the calendar is September 7.  The Rangers have 10 games between now and then -- today against Anaheim, three against Tampa, three at Boston, and three at Tampa.  Anaheim has 11 games in that stretch -- today at Texas, four at Seattle, three against Minnesota, and three against Seattle.  Obviously, Anaheim has the easier road over that stretch, but after that, the schedule favors Texas.  If Texas can be at least tied for first place on September 7, then I'll feel awfully confident in the likelihood this team will be playing in October.

Jeff Wilson's game story talks about how Ervin Santana, on short rest, pitched about as well as he did the last time the Rangers' faced him (and beat him), but C.J. Wilson pitched much worse.

Behind the paywall, Evan Grant writes about Wilson's bad night.

Anthony Andro quotes C.J. Wilson as saying he was aiming the ball down, but it was staying up.

Richard Durrett has his post-game thoughts on last night's loss at ESPN Dallas.

Gil Lebreton has a column on the Rangers' shrinking lead in the A.L. West.

Bryan Dolgin interviewed Thad Levine about waiver trades and the Jered Weaver contract, among other things.

The S-T's notes talk about the impending rehab assignments for Adrian Beltre and Andres Blanco that kick off Monday, with Beltre hoping he can return to the active roster after just two rehab games.

The Rangers' website notes also look at the Beltre and Blanco rehab situation, along with touching on Ron Washington's lineup the past two nights, the decision to skip Matt Harrison's next start, and a fan falling on a stairwell last night.

Jeff Wilson has a story about major league baseball players who had the opportunity to be major college football players.

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hmm...
If Texas can be at least tied for first place on September 7, then I’ll feel awfully confident in the likelihood this team will be playing in October.

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2011 10:22 AM CDT reply actions  

I know

I don’t even know what to think about this team. Is it the rotation, the offense, the level of the competition? I’m confused.

I shortened my sig so I wouldn't be frowned upon at Lookout Landing

by chrisR on Aug 28, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tough

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Aug 28, 2011 11:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Tough schedule, young starters moving past 150 IP

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Aug 28, 2011 11:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

And pitching home games in record heat while doing so

My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen

by Keynes on Aug 28, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's been a constant though.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Aug 28, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

AIN'T SKEERED

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!

by vfn on Aug 28, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

well, the schedule is scary

but the Angels sort of traded away some of their advantage by tiring out two of the best players for their stretch…

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

How so?

Both those guys go back to normal rest from here on out

by bigsteve on Aug 28, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

sure

but the worry about short resting a guy is not limited to the game he pitches. Seasons are long, and it isn’t unreasonable that a short rest outing would take more out of a guy than a regular rest.

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

When rosters expand

who does this team bring up to give them a jolt?

Hopefully Blanco can be ready soon, but he isn’t exactly electric…
Strop would look nice in the bullpen, even though he won’t get used in the right situations.
Tea obviously will help the catching scenarios.

I wish someone like Martin who has some excitement upside was doing well enough to be a legit option to bring up and put a spark in the lineup or something.

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2011 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Once Adrian Beltre returns...

…the only spot in the lineup that is joltable is the third OFer (CF, or LF if Hamilton moves to CF).

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 28, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Will Beltre immediately go back to hitting clean-up when he returns?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Aug 28, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, Beltre is a pretty big acquisition to have coming up

this team has missed him; Young and Naps have been great since he’s gone, of course, but with rotating off days in with people not having Beltre means lots of games with Q out there, and that’s a pretty big dropoff…

The team just seems to have a bit of that sluggishness that comes over them every so often, and I’m just looking at the roster expansion for candidates to come in an basically be fresh

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's killing them now is the burden of getting down early by 4-5 runs and trying

to come back. Everybody is going to look sluggish when that happens and this all started with that first game at Chi when we fell down 3-0 early (but rallied to win).

They’re 9-7 since this Death March part of the schedule began and I thought a 14-12 record would be more than acceptable.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Aug 28, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Uh oh—now when THAT regresses too his FIP will be even worse!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Though it’s still at a reasonable 291. His HR/FB being 3.1 higher this year than last, and his BABIP being 25 points higher, really shows just how much that increase in Ks and decrease in walks helps since his FIP is still .2 lower.

by Closure GT on Aug 28, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Remember the discussion last season that Wilson could be one of those special pitchers who could maintain a very low career BABIP - say, .265.275 — because of his intelligence, prep work, and such? One of the points was his .202 BABIP versus lefties, against the .282 mark versus righties. There was discussion of sustainability, statistical significance, and such.

This season, his BABIP is .352 versus LHBs, and .275 versus RHBs.

Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith

by Darth Snark on Aug 28, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cahill, too.

Goodbye, 192 BABIP against righties…

by Closure GT on Aug 28, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I almost messed myself when Napoli got hit last night.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 28, 2011 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

I thought he broke his wrist / hand. I'm still wondering about him...he had a passed ball

go right thru him after that when he had to turn his wrist to catch a pitch.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Aug 28, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Buster Olney said the Rangers are getting IVs before the games even start...

would suck to play in that heat.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 28, 2011 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

I bet it impacts them more than we know.

Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg

I bleed Ranger black and blue.

Leonys Martin is no Judy- JD at Newberg Night.

by BigGuns on Aug 28, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

They showed a graphic the other day of the hottest game time temps the last two months….

Texas was like 100-something and the next hottest was Atlanta at 89 degrees.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 28, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

HEAT

How can anyone argue it is anything but brutal to play your home games in this August furnace? During a playoff stretch where tensions, anxieties, and frustrations are high? That said, our troubles don’t stop there. Beltre has to help. I still like the idea of bringing in someone to pitch 2 or 3 home game starts in Sept.

"I'm fighting boredom just like you are, bro." "Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, pal. Stop saying Douchebag!"

by 3Bagger on Aug 28, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone argued that it's anything but brutal

to play any games in this August furnace — home or away.

Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith

by Darth Snark on Aug 28, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly think that MLB should take a shit ton of flack for this

scheduling them three straight weeks during the hottest part of the year when they play in the hottest park in baseball.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!

by vfn on Aug 28, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a point

I know that they played road games too, but they’re still playing several games in Arlington without any kind of day off to rest and recover from all of this.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!

by vfn on Aug 28, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

The schedule's not fun, but yeah:

the first 10 games of this 17-game stretch were in Oakland, LA, and Chicago. And nobody was really talking about the heat after the game Friday, except maybe the Angels, right?

Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith

by Darth Snark on Aug 28, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody as in ESPN?

People here were discussing it this week? They were boo’ed out of the building! I understand why, it’s something that essentially doesn’t matter since you can’t make a trade and fix it. It is, therefore it is. Measuring the effects of heat are impossible. Stopping the effects are pretty close to impossible too.

"I'm fighting boredom just like you are, bro." "Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, pal. Stop saying Douchebag!"

by 3Bagger on Aug 28, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You misunderstood.

The heat comes up as a complaint among Rangers fans when the Rangers don’t play well in it. It comes up as a complaint among opposing fans when the opposing teams don’t play well in it.

There was talk that the Rangers were fatigued after the White Sox series, but hadn’t been much of it after the 7-4 win. There was plenty of talk about the heat after the Boston series, but hadn’t been much after that first 4-0 blanking. There’s talk again about the heat after last night, but wasn’t much after that 11-7 win two nights ago.

And nobody was booed out of the building.

Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith

by Darth Snark on Aug 28, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see it this way...I may be wrong...

Discussing HEAT seems to be about like discussing the merits of bunting in the 4th inning. The anti-bunt mafia will pounce, the LSB veterans will yawn, and the newbies will try to make sense of it. I have never seen heat like this during a pennant run. I don’t think the combination has occurred before? I don’t really know what to think about it. In other words, I am no lifelong heat complainer. But, when it has been discussed here, no one has really explained it well. In my opinion.

"I'm fighting boredom just like you are, bro." "Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, pal. Stop saying Douchebag!"

by 3Bagger on Aug 28, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

get kubel and put hamilton in CF... or get BJ upton.

i made it home from the holilday in in mckinney… what is this i dont even.

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Aug 28, 2011 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

They can't get Kubel

The ChiSox claimed him.

I haven’t heard if the Rangers claimed Upton, but I doubt he made it to them.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 28, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

get Lance Berkman

Do they need him? No. Does he provide a fresh bat while the team waits for Beltre? Absolutely.

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Plus he's the best righty killer available right now

My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen

by Keynes on Aug 28, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Beltre comes back either Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday

Once he returns, where do you play Berkman? And how much do you give up for him?

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 28, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the two questions are

1) Is and should Beltre really be coming back this week? The reports have seemed mixed – if getting Berkman were to allow Beltre an extra week off to get to 100%, then that may be worth it.

2) I frankly wouldn’t mind rotating through him and Moreland and all that to give guys days off in September.

He’s really good, there are enough games to go around right now, and that’s a good worry for October to have.

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh - #2 isn't a question...

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

as for how much

I doubt he’d cost much at all – maybe a Mendonca type, or even less if we agree with St Louis not to offer him arbitration (since they want to re-sign him)

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

if he's a lot more then you pass of course

Worth making a call though. He’s been really good this year…

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He wasn't very good with NYY last year (mostly as a DH). No thanks.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Aug 28, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't need him. Offense isn't the problem ...we need better starts plus Koji needs to

get his shit together (3 bombs in 11 IPs?!??!).

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Aug 28, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would definitely kick the tires

Not sure I’d like the price.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!

by vfn on Aug 28, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Three worst things going right now.

1. WELL IF YOU MUST KNOW XYZ.COM HAS US AT 89.33% REPEATING OF COURSE!

2. ANGELS STARTERS PITCHING ON SHORT REST, DONT WORRY THIS WILL EFFECT THEM DOWN THE STRETCH FOR SURE!

3. I’M NOT WORRIED WE ARE BETTER THAN THE ANGELS! (Which we probably are, only problem is they are better than every team they play the rest of the way except for the Yankees, that’s right folks ONE FUCKING TEAM they will not be favored against the rest of the season.)

by PhilKidIsHero on Aug 28, 2011 10:59 AM CDT reply actions  

You're not very good at this.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!

by vfn on Aug 28, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do this mean I should pay for Playoff Tix or not?

"I'm fighting boredom just like you are, bro." "Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, pal. Stop saying Douchebag!"

by 3Bagger on Aug 28, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Espn Gameday Matchup has the Angels at 71% to win, that means........

We’re gonna Win!!!!

Eat Shit Angels and Odds makers

Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."

by TRFAN on Aug 28, 2011 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

i'm really surprised that it's not higher then that

i really want them to win but i’ve come to terms with them going into the off day tomorrow being one game up.

by jas003 on Aug 28, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bodog has Rangers favored at -114 tonight...you have to bet $ 114 on the Rangers to win $ 100.

Over/under is 8.5.

I really, really like the over.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Aug 28, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

And in case anybody was wondering, Michael Young is 14 for 25 (.560) with 2 SF's

in these 6 critical games v the Angels this month.

Also, .910 OPS since the AS Break.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Aug 28, 2011 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I still believe he's the player we can least afford to lose for an extended time.

The rare transcendent player in sports who makes everybody around him better.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Aug 28, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

He also had a .992 OPS for the month of July.

.573 OPS the last 7 days, .778 OPS the last 14 days, .709 OPS for month of August.

He’s definitely staggering right now and Wash should find some ways to rest him in the next 3 days…possibly DH tonight (it’s supposed to be 109 motherfucking degrees today), off day on Monday and give him Tuesday off as well.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Aug 28, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

109?

So dumb.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 28, 2011 1:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Schedule on MLB.com for the Rangers shows ...

Lewis today (obviously)
Feldman Tuesday vs. Hellickson (yeesh).
Ogando Wednesday vs. Shields
Wilson Thursday vs. Niemann
Undecided Friday vs. Wakefield in Boston.
Lewis Saturday vs. Lester.

So apparently they moved Wilson up a day to pitch in Holland’s spot on Thursday, but they’re not sure if Holland will pitch Friday? That will have been seven days from his last start, and I’m not sure who would pitch if he doesn’t. Harrison, maybe?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Aug 28, 2011 1:14 PM CDT reply actions  

ESPN.com, not MLB.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Aug 28, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

MLB.com actually shows Holland Thursday and Wilson Friday.

That would give both an extra day of rest, but keep them on the rotation.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Aug 28, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holland is probably the one guy I'm least worried about rest wise

it seems like he’s been about the same all year (big ups, big downs). Perhaps his periodic short 45 pitch, 1.2 inning start here and there has been good for keeping him fresh…

I wouldn’t mind seeing CJ and Ogando getting at least some extra days here and there. And yeah, Harry and his long-sleeves needed a full start off..

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Aug 28, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Feldman start on Tuesday could be huge and if he does well I think very

hard about sprinkling him into the rotation for 3-4 starts to give everybody sans CJ one start off in September.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Aug 28, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ogando definitely needs the rest.

He’s in uncharted territory for his entire career.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Aug 28, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

CJ pitching every 5th day from here

i’m sure that was discussed, but thought i would mention it.

they aren’t so much moving him up as keeping him on regular rest and adjusting everyone else

same difference i guess

by sam in so cal on Aug 28, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im really concerned about Ogando, he needs to be skipped or pushed back imo..

You saw how he pitched after he got those days off around the ASB.. I think both he and Harry issue is more fatigue..

Not worry about Dutch, his issue is his command/mechanics/mental stuff

by Vicky on Aug 28, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thought I saw the plan was to bring back Harry next Sunday v Boston.

Don’t get it…they kicked his ass last week and LH’s traditionally don’t do well in Fenway Park.

I’d bring him back next Tuesday at Tampa.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Aug 28, 2011 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Did we do that last year?

"Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor."-Capote
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning."-JD

by Schultzy on Aug 28, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Personally, I'd take my chances if the Rangers can get to 92 wins.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Aug 28, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

If anyone wants to check it out,

David Price has 12 K through 5 IP today

5 IP | 2 H | 0 R | 1 BB | 12 K | 80 pitches

by Tex2044 on Aug 28, 2011 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I am going to make a very wild prediction here

David Price is a Texas ranger on Opening Day 2012

Price will be arb eligible this year as a Super 2 so he starts getting expensive. TB has Matt Moore waiting in the wings.

I dont know what we trade to make it happen but I think it gets done. We let CJ walk and go get Price who is under team control for the next 4 years

by bigsteve on Aug 28, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Profar, Perez, Alfaro, Olt ++++

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!

by vfn on Aug 28, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is ridiculous

It won’t cost that much in prospects. It will probably take 2 of those, but then add more major league ready talent.

by Tex2044 on Aug 28, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it costs all of those prospects, then TB isn't serious about trading him

Which is entirely possible. I don’t see why they would. I’d think they’d try to capitalize on Shield bounce back year and trade him.

by Tex2044 on Aug 28, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Tampa Bay would CONSIDER trading him.

Which is why I think for them to even consider it, you’d have to blow them the fuck away with an offer

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!

by vfn on Aug 28, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shields is locked up through 2014 with very reasonable/cheap options

Price is entering arb as a Super 2 which means 4 years of his performance dictating his salary which could get extremely expensive for TB

Shields had one bad year in 2010 but has been really good otherwise. I dont see them trading him given his contract situation

by bigsteve on Aug 28, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

There’s no way.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Aug 28, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both.

Matt Moore doesn’t make Price expendable, and Price is exactly the type of talent TB needs to keep as long as possible.

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by Aqua on Aug 28, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aquaman, I posted in the minors thread about Andrew Faulkner

I’d be interested in what you think of him. He’s quietly had a good debut season in the AZL.

by Tex2044 on Aug 28, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure you know more about him than I do

But I’m always happy to look at our guys that are doing well.

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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Aug 28, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

14 thru 7 now.

Hmm, something about him is an enigma to me.

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Aug 28, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's the closest thing to a left-handed Verlander

I have a feeling he’ll take small steps as he refines the fastball command and breaking stuff, eventually ending up a top 3-5 pitcher in baseball.

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by Conjunction on Aug 28, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

MIN up 7-4

TEX really needs DET to start remebering they are DET

by sam in so cal on Aug 28, 2011 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

The Rangers will have to beat both the Yankees and Red Sox to win the pennant

I don’t think it matters, greatly, in which order they play them.

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by vfn on Aug 28, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I get the feeling Det could take NYY in a 5-game series.

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by JDT217 on Aug 28, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

so playing both on the road makes no difference to you?

playing at home (especially if they don’t clinch until the last game or two of the season) sure would be nice

by sam in so cal on Aug 28, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

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