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Lance Berkman disagrees with Lance Berkman

Lance Berkman back in January, talking about why he signed with the St. Louis Cardinals instead of the Texas Rangers:

 

"I felt like if they didn't re-sign Cliff Lee that they were going to be an average team and I feel that's probably what's going to end up happening," Berkman said Thursday. "It's all about your pitching. I feel like last year was one of those special years where you kind of catch lightning in a bottle and they got hot and they had some guys that I felt like were pitching better than their talent level and consequently they had a great year."

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"They were itching to spend some money," Berkman said. "I probably could have gotten the best deal out of them, especially in light of what they gave Adrian Beltre, which I think is pretty much of a reach for him."

 

So, in January, said he could have gotten the best deal out of the Rangers, but went to the Cardinals for less money because the Rangers were an average team, and he wanted to win.

Flash forward a few months, and this is what Berkman is saying in September in regards to his contract negotiations with the Cardinals for 2012:

"It’s always about money," Berkman said. "No matter what people say, it’s always about the money."

So its always about the money, according to Lance Berkman.  Except, apparently, when its not.

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The Jered Weaver extension is interesting when you find out...

the Angels pretty much held him hostage by saying “You have to agree to this by this date or we’re trading you in the off season.”

by ghostofErikThompson on Sep 20, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you're saying the Angels Stockholm Syndrome'd him?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Sep 20, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck him.

Enjoy the couch in October.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
"Holy God, I want to make out with that dong." - GhostofErikThompson (in response to a Nellie Cruz homer) 6/9/11

by TxStCa on Sep 20, 2011 1:51 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Except we love the Rangers

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is what happens when people speak in absolutes

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Sep 20, 2011 1:52 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Only a sith speaks in absolutes

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Sep 20, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Always two there are

a master, and an apprentice.

“So which one was killed, the master or the apprentice?”

Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011

by iblum on Sep 20, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come on Atlanta

I hope Lance never sees the playoffs again.

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Well he did go to Rice

They all either speak in tongue or blow out their shoulders.

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

It's setting in on some of them over at HH
I tell myself

That Haren and Weaver are gassed, that Santana is no longer firing slinky sliders of doom, and that the Angels would get thumped in the playoffs. I’m telling myself that next year, with or without a 1B addition, the team won’t have to lean so darn hard on the Two Aces and a King. I’m also telling myself Texas won’t seal dominance with a Big Splash 1B FA pickup that puts them into the stratosphere while the Angels re-sign Mathis to a long-term deal.

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

From Baseball by Ken Burns. Accept it HH. It's just easier that way.
It is played everywhere: in parks and playgrounds, prison yards, in back alleys and farmers’ fields; by small boys and old men, raw amateurs and millionaire professionals. It is a leisurely game that demands blinding speed; the only game in which the defense has the ball. It follows the seasons, beginning each year with the fond expectancy of springtime and ending with the hard facts of autumn.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Sep 20, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

TBS 2011 postseason vid

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19241231&topic_id=23395338

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I didn't see any Angels highlights in there.

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here is one that will get you going as well.

http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13093691&topic_id=8878736&c_id=tex

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That will stick with me forever

It was as if I’d stepped into the Roman coliseum. The ground was shaking when Vlad hit the double, even more so when Nelly hit his Cruz missile.

And when A-rod struck out? Oh snap.

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Sep 20, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

That whole scene was epic.

I will always regret not buying that single ticket in the nosebleed section for $75.

Always.

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Sep 20, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes...

Also the shot of the inspiration for the Nellie Cruz Walkoff Bobblehead!

by ghostofErikThompson on Sep 20, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh my gosh

the ending shot, with the fireworks going off after the Nelly Cruz home run just brought tears to me eyes. Gosh, all I want this post season is one moment like that.

by mattfiji2000 on Sep 20, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have that video as an icon on my laptop.

I watch it once a week it seems like.

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 things.

I miss Cliff Lee.
I miss 2010 Colby Lewis.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Sep 20, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know

I thought at the time Berkman mislabled our team because I thought CJ, Colby and Holland were going to be very good.

In hindsight though, he wasn’t really that far off when critiquing our starting rotation.

Look at our 4 guys from the playoffs last year:

Lee gone
CJ – had done it one year and was probably a coin flip in the winter as to whether he better his 2010 numbers. turns out he far-exceeded them
Colby has regressed signficantly and right now it looks like he well out-performed his talent last year (though the injury may be the culprit)l
Hunter – clearly pitched well above his talent last year (as his peripherals screamed then and his performance in 11 backed up).

So, he wasn’t entirely smoking crack. Where he was way wrong was in judgming the depth and talent of the younger arms, with Harrison, Holland and Ogando. Plus a deep system which allowed for mid-season trades (and we were guarantying back in the winter).

So he was off-base, but maybe what he was specifically speaking too wasn’t so wrong.

Jack Daddy

by Jack Daddy on Sep 20, 2011 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Well...

He told the Cards GM he didn’t want to be traded here. What’s his excuse now?

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a pansy that can't handle the heat.

Well guess what, assface!? It’s only 93 degrees now!

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Sep 20, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if we low balled him in the offseason

And that’s what prompted his “mediocre” comments and his resistance to being traded here.

by Brad on Sep 20, 2011 2:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Didnt

he say he could have gotten the best money here though? Or are you talking more in the sense that the Rangers’ first offer was really low?

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Sep 20, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Minute Maid has all those CHICK-FIL-A signs!

What kind of porno are we talking about here? - River Fenix, 9/16/11

by Schoolly_D on Sep 20, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

one of my favorite music videos ever:

http://youtu.be/vM8vGoXiHG4

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Sep 20, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of

In 2002, following an argument with pitcher Orlando Hernández, Henderson stated, “He needs to grow up a little bit. I ain’t a kid. When I broke into the game, he was crawling on his hands and knees. Unless he’s as old as I am. He probably is.”

If knowledge is power, why does Stephen Hawking need batteries?

by lamron on Sep 20, 2011 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

When they say its not about the money

its always about the money.

and we weren’t going to offer him Adrian Beltre money.

Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011

by iblum on Sep 20, 2011 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

"All I'm asking for is what I want."

If knowledge is power, why does Stephen Hawking need batteries?

by lamron on Sep 20, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

lance...

dont kid yourself…you would LOVE to be with the rangers!!!

by jimcro on Sep 20, 2011 3:37 PM CDT reply actions  

heh, pls dear 6 Lb 8 oz baby Jesus

pls let Atlanta miss the playoffs…..k thx.

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Except that Ron Washington says Face has been this team’s MVP.
So did Bobby Valentine, Evan Grant, Jon Heyman --Josey Wales

by shock00 on Sep 20, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

StL has a LOT easier schedule IMO.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 20, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think so as well

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Except that Ron Washington says Face has been this team’s MVP.
So did Bobby Valentine, Evan Grant, Jon Heyman --Josey Wales

by shock00 on Sep 20, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do you want the Braves to not make it?

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

too many braves fans at work.....i'm evil

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Except that Ron Washington says Face has been this team’s MVP.
So did Bobby Valentine, Evan Grant, Jon Heyman --Josey Wales

by shock00 on Sep 20, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want the Cards to make it because of Berkman

So how do we settle this?

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

well shit, i guess i can get on board w/ the braves. Just have them get crushed in the NLDS

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Except that Ron Washington says Face has been this team’s MVP.
So did Bobby Valentine, Evan Grant, Jon Heyman --Josey Wales

by shock00 on Sep 20, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok I was thinking thumb wars

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha....game of jenga.

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Except that Ron Washington says Face has been this team’s MVP.
So did Bobby Valentine, Evan Grant, Jon Heyman --Josey Wales

by shock00 on Sep 20, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your on

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Sep 20, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah yeah what a dope

"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker

by Mike E on Sep 20, 2011 4:44 PM CDT reply actions  

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