OT: NFL offensive coordinator nonsense thread/season begins
So tonight the NFL season kicks off.
As always Sharky is here to provide some insight with his proven coordinator methodology.
Unfortunately at this point although they never explicitly say it, everybody else has copied sharky.
For example, Sharky spotted an easy one from a mile away, Josh McDanials, arguably imo the best OC in football, moves to St Louis. Uh oh! Possible huge momentum change nobody sees! Sharky thought.
wahh wah, everybody and their dog now predicts the Rams to win that division.
Here we have another, Wade Phillips moving to Houston to bolster that defense, the worst in football.
wah wah, everybody and their dog in the national media sees the same thing and Houston now the trendy pick to win the division, especially with peyton injured.
So yeah umm, I dont have a whole lot. I only have one that's a possibility, that people dont seem to be aware of and hopping the sharky bandwagon, which is Jay Gruden being the new OC in Cincy. I can give you that tip. It's not a sure thing but keep an eye there. Most people are writing cincy off. Dont be so hasty says Sharky. Apparently theyre starting Andy Dalton too, just to up the degree of difficulty. Dont be surprised if Cincy shows life and Palmer rues his holdout. Sharky is alone on this because ESPN ranks Cincy 32nd in their preseason power ranking.
However you have to look at the DC too, who in Cincy is Mike Zimmer, who I dont have a lot of faith in from his Cowboys days, so we'll see.
Oh wait, fake edit, I forgot my second possible sleeper, Washington. It didn't work out last year but the Shanahans are pretty proven, and their DC is Jim Hazlett, yeah outta be pretty good. I'm pretty concerned Washington will be a lot better this year. I hope not of course, but it's troubling.
Other than that, I think the same teams with the same proven OC's will never drop off too far, which is why you'll see New Orleans there, GB there, San Diego there, Philly there, etc etc etc. I am not so sold that Atlanta wont fall off, and GB could too. I dont like either of those teams so I hope so.
Speaking of proven coordinators, I think Philly's offseason spending spree and high expectations is a great chance to finally get Andy Reid out of Philadelphia if they dont win a Super Bowl. And boy I'm ready, it sucks being in the same division as Andy Reid every year.
For Dallas, Garrett is what he is, an above average OC despite a lot of warts, so it's down to defense and Rob Ryan. Want to see something scary? Rob Ryan in Oakland from 2004-2008 as DC, defensive ranks and team record:
2004 5-11, 31st in points allowed
2005 4-12, 25th in points allowed
2006 2-14, 18th in points allowed
2007 4-12, 26th in points allowed
2008 5-11, 24th in points allowed
That my friends is a disaster.
But look I dont care, you have to be optimistic to start a season and I'm optimistic. Throw all that out the window and here's hoping Ryan can get it done. In trying to talk myself into that, I tell myself the Cowboys defense was horrendous last year, if it can be improved just to average the record should improve greatly. I look at youtube interviews of Ryan and he doesn't seem totally stupid. And things like that. So here's hoping.
I also wanna just point out my new pet peeve, because the media is always so biased on QB's. Kevin Kolb is routinely treated by the media as a triple AAA QB and franchise QB.
I looked up his numbers, they're just beyond awful. 78 QB rating last year, and 73 for his career, with all the talent in the world in Philly if you care about such. Incredible. Worse career and season rating, often by far, than media ridiculed QB's like Tebow, Young, Grossman, Alex Smith, etc. Yet, he's a franchise QB. Oh that media, so unbiased.
BTW Tebow had a great preseason, top QB ranking for Denver ahead of Orton 108-104, miles ahead of Quinn. 20-31, over 300 yards, no INT's, rushed for 55 yards...now he did get sacked like 7 times I think, too be fair. But I just find it funny according to media, he's been the worst QB of all time in camp, yet somehow in basically a full preseason games worth of stats that are actually verifiable unlike Mike Young's defensive ratings, he's done great. Cue bubu, he played against backups, never mind so does everybody else in preseason, and he also plays WITH backups. Am I saying this 108 preseason rating means a whole lot? No, but I do find it interesting.
Oh one more thing, offensive line is so important, but the Cowboys up and start 3 rookies like it's nothing, and we all know it wont affect a thing and they'll be fine, of course. Come on, offensive coordinator warming deniers, give it up already. It must be hard for you guys to keep a straight face.
Theirein ends the sharky pre-NFL season ramblethon.
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if i was too make some kind of super bowl prediction
i might say, sd vs new orleans, or something like that. though i’d prefer philly, they must overcome streaky qb play. heck baltimore might be strong in the afc. and houston. and i’d love to see peyton win another since he has a lot of naysayers now.
i dunno, i’m not huge on sb predictions. it seems to me there’s 8-10 top teams and which one emerges is as much chance as anything.
that’s why i think consistent winning like reid does in philly or norv in sd is so underrated, really all you can do is throw yourself in that poll of teams that can win every year, whether you actually take the final step is kinda luck of the draw.
oh i forgot for coordinators, matt mccoy in denver, McDaniels protege, is one to watch, and by extension denver itself.
Where's the republican debate subthread?
I like steak.
by hornedfrogs45 on Sep 8, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys ready for president Perry?
Called it, lulz.
In recent times I’ve started to like Paul a lot more. I always dismissed him as some trendy internet guy like Ralph Nader, but once I looked into his positions, he’s damned conservative.
But I watched the debate and you know who the real winner was imo? In all honesty (and I was a ra ra Perry guy going in)
Michelle Bachmann. Yup. She opened my eyes. Probably cant win, like Paul, but hey.
Romney is smart, but too left wing. Perry isn’t as right wing as I’d like either. If I could handpick, after last nights debate, I’d go Bachmann, Paul, Perry. Of course in reality I think it will be Perry and thats fine.
She kinda grows on you pretty too. You know at first I thought she was, you know, Palin junior. But now I think she’s probably more attractive than Palin.
I got to considering her chances, they’re not zero. She’s pretty strong in Iowa, and that’s all it would take to give her a punchers chance. Of course it’s a very long shot.
BTW the economy sucks because of environmental regulations, which ironically, will force liberals out of office.
You guys prolly talk about this in the OT threads
But those mofos are so big it’s intimidating. They all have 1k posts.
Peyton surgery, out 2 months
You know, Bayless is a Favre guy, he was saying Favre should be starting right now for Indy, over Kerry Collins.
Cant say that wouldn’t be fun to watch, and he’s probably right.
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sportsguy33 Bill Simmons
New Column: A 2011 NFL Preview + Week 11 Picks + creeper/sleeper/grenade picks. es.pn/pzzqja
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"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
They'll get it figured out.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
They're resting for the game
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
This flabbergasts me
I guess it isn’t a shock if you knew the prior deal was $1.1B
But over 17 weeks, that comes out to $117.6M per Monday night game.
Makes the Rangers TV deal look like chopped liver.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
So very glad he fell to me
Yay people drafting according to heart (Bears fan, picked up Brees and Rivers ahead of him in a 2-QB league)
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
Yep
gotta stream those defenses
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
Aaron Rodgers is currently on pace for 12,000 passing yards and 192 touchdowns.
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
Peter King?
SI_PeterKing Peter King
Aaron Rodgers is on pace for a 12,032-yard passing season. With 192 touchdown passes and 0 interceptions.
James Mason
BryanBroaddus Bryan Broaddus
Little Cowboys War Room insight. Jason Garrett was absolutely in love with Mark Ingram out of Alabama. Knew he was special. Looking it now.
How angry would everybody have been
if he had slipped to the 2nd and the Cowboys traded up for him?
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
I would have been ok with that.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Yeah I should probably clarify
everybody is referring more to the man on the street fan
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
Think they sweep the NFC West?
If they do that, get a split in the division (maybe even 4 wins), beat Buffalo and Miami then steal one or two out of Tampa/NE/NY/Detroit, that’s 9-10 wins right there.
i tell the truth; i lie a lot
I really wanted Collinsworth to say "son of a bitch" there
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.
easy TD
even ones that are closer than that; it’s just an optical illusion with white shoes near white line.
After that first quarter I wanted another Rodgers TD.
Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.

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