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Nightengale: Rangers meeting with Fielder today

Per Bob Nightengale on Twitter, the Rangers are meeting with Prince Fielder "at a Dallas-area hotel" today.

This is pretty huge...my reaction to this news was the same as Adrian Beltre's after a certain home run last season.

Fielder, of course, is an elite-level first baseman who, as a lefty power hitter, would be a great fit for Texas, as his swing is viewed as tailor-made for TBIA, and the Rangers have something of a hole at first base. That said, Fielder's agent, Scott Boras, has reportedly been looking for a 200 million dollar deal, and the market for Fielder simply hasn't developed.

Of late, I've been wondering if Fielder might look at a one year deal and re-enter the market next offseason, when the Dodgers would (with new ownership) be a natural landing spot for Fielder, or potential the Mets (assuming the Wilpons sell by then) or the Cubs.

If so, Texas - with a hitters park, a strong lineup, and a playoff caliber team - would be a good spot for Fielder to go on a short-term deal.

It is unknown whether this is the case, if the Rangers are looking at Fielder long-term, or if this is just tire-kicking, but calling this intriguing is an understatement.

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#HUGE

Is Josh gone? JD, I trust Yu…

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by texasrfan on Jan 13, 2012 3:29 PM CST reply actions  

Fun...

Artie’d about dump in his own britches if the Rangers pull down Prince for a year or two… his “win now” enthusiasm would certainly get the pickle juice dumped on it.

And, King Albert’d get a kick out of being back in the same division as the Prince of Fielder… until the end of the season and they were looking up at our butts again… lol

Go, JD!!!

If at first you don't succeed, try the outfield! -- Ed

by eglooney on Jan 13, 2012 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

wut?

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by Chrom on Jan 13, 2012 6:11 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Heheheh

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by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Congrats on the Champs win

Will they make me a look like a fool again when I call them a top-10 team going into next year?

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks!

Our O-Line isn’t looking any better going into next season, but I think we have a pretty good shot at the #1 defense. I’d put them top 10, if only because we have a favorable schedule, for a change.

by Jobu. on Jan 13, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

This could get real interesting

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jan 13, 2012 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

Bob Nightengale on ESPN103.3 now..

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by texasrfan on Jan 13, 2012 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

That they are actively talking dollars

From a friend who was listening.

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Jan 13, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

wha?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 13, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

UH

YU AND PRINCE, MY>< <<

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi

by blalock84 on Jan 13, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

But are they talking years?

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I just got a huge baseball erection

@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.

by TargetField on Jan 13, 2012 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

Hell yeah, paint Nordeast Ranger red white and blue

@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.

by TargetField on Jan 13, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Pancakes and a refreshing dip in the waters of Lake Minnetonka?

"Those cocksuckers asking me if I thought we were gonna go up there and try to work his fuckin’ pitch count ‘cause he’s on three fuckin’ days rest…you know what I told those cocksuckers? He pitch ball, ball cross plate, we gonna knock the shit out of it."

- Wash

by RCCook on Jan 13, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Have to wait til spring now ;)

@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.

by TargetField on Jan 13, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Just cut a big hole in the ice.

As good as Prince Fielder would've looked in a 4XL Rangers' uniform, we all know you win with pitching. -- JJT

The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."

by rooster on Jan 13, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Seems to me that if he's going to sign for a one-year deal and then re-enter the FA market next year, he'll be a Brewer in 2012.

If we can make this happen for 5-6/115-138, then sign me up.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

Why would a one-year deal mean he's a Brewer in 2012?

And wouldn’t the whole point of signing a 1-year deal, for Fielder, mean avoiding the sort of contract you’re talking about, so that he could get the one he wants (and Boras wants) next off-season?

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by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

(1) Familiarity, competitive team, ballpark in which he's excelled, weaker league

(2) Yes. Which is why I think it’s much more likely that he stays in Milwaukee on a one-year deal than signs with us for a comfortable price.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Weeeeeeeeee!

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd bet the Rangers Ballpark and the club's competitiveness,

plus a chance to pitch them on a “now you’ve got to know him, you’ve got money, sign him big and long-term” after 2012 would make Fielder and Boras at least pause to think about it.

Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.

by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that's probably true. I just don't think it's enough to overcome the (rather substantial, amirite?!) inertia keeping him in Milwaukee if it's just one more year.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, if Josh and Prince both had huge years with Texas

there would be a lot of pressure on the FO to resign one of them…

by VM on Jan 13, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

That's something I didn't even consider

The part about Boras trying to use a 1 year deal as a sort of audition to show the team what they can get.

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Jan 13, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd have to imagine that it'd still be Boras' least-favored option, but who knows?

If the right contract’s not out there…

And in terms of longer deals: while opt-outs tend to worry me a bit, Dave Cameron’s take on a hugely backloaded deal makes me wonder what the Rangers could structure.

Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.

by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Boras is in the business of making money for himself too

Boras takes the injury risk of a one year contract too.

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Jan 13, 2012 8:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Beltre

Can’t remember the details around his 1-year deal with Boston, but …

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Fine
Buster_ESPN
One exec today believes WAS, TEX, CHC may ultimately get this Fielder contract structure: 6 years, opt-out after 3 years, 22-24m a year.

by sprite on Jan 13, 2012 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

In.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

*Flinn

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Jan 13, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

*Flynn

"self policing" implies that the group will implement punishments based on violations of the group’s defined ethic. What are we gonna do? Make fun of someone until they quit the internet forever? - Bob Loblaw 7/21/2011

by Mike the Grate on Jan 13, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Perfect

As good as Prince Fielder would've looked in a 4XL Rangers' uniform, we all know you win with pitching. -- JJT

The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."

by rooster on Jan 13, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I do this.

"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball

by Athos on Jan 13, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

The only way I can see not doing this is if the AAV in years 4-6 is 26-28MM

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Cubs don't really have much reason to do this.

Even at that rate.

Between the Nats and the Rangers then, I would hope.

by LiamP on Jan 13, 2012 3:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Cubs are rebuilding, why would they want him?

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Jan 13, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Makes so little sense

And their brass is definitely upgraded this year

By the time they are really getting good again, he’s going to be 30, and … oh, snap

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would that worry you?

Do you think it would substantially raise the price of the deal?

by Heebs on Jan 13, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, the report is that the AAV on the entire deal is 22-24MM.

The question is how heavily the overall value is distributed to the years following the opt-out

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not a huge fan, either.

Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.

by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes but with the opt out comes a discount

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Jan 13, 2012 8:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Olney
One exec today believes WAS, TEX, CHC may ultimately get this Fielder contract structure: 6 years, opt-out after 3 years, 22-24m a year.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by texasrfan on Jan 13, 2012 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

In.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Perfect

As good as Prince Fielder would've looked in a 4XL Rangers' uniform, we all know you win with pitching. -- JJT

The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."

by rooster on Jan 13, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

fuck.. for that give him 26 a year

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

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by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the biggest selling point is HR porch for 243 games

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

me too

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 13, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

oh

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 13, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

They aren't ideal

But on a contract the size that Prince will get, an opt out really isn’t risking that much.

If you’re paying Prince $24M per year… the most optimistic person might see him as a 6 WAR/yr player the next 3 or 4 years, in which case, he’d opt out to get a raise to $30M or what not.

That’s not a huge loss on the Rangers part.

It really doesn’t make the deal that much worse for the Rangers.

by Jobu. on Jan 13, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

The only way it kills the Rangers

Is if he goes all Vernon Wells on them and falls off the cliff before his op-out

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

But if the scenario is

We offer 6/130, and they counter with 6/130 + an opt out… then the opt out didn’t come into play in that situation.

by Jobu. on Jan 13, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

But

What if the Rangers are offering the opt out instead of going to 8-10 years, like Boras has been pushing?

Also, who besides Meyer still thinks that Fielder will get anything approaching a 10-year offer?

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

And twice on Sunday

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

This is a $ 23 million DH who is morbidly obese.

He’ll be very good to great for 3 years and then fall off a cliff.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 13, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Somebody didn't actually read.

Even if you were right, if he did that he would opt out and not be our problem anymore.

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by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

If he is "good to great" for 3 years,

can you imagine how tired we will all get of Josey warning us that he is going to fall off a cliff in 3 years blah blah blah?

by VM on Jan 13, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Comes with instructions and shit, man.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sure if you keep telling yourself that

a sailboat will appear.

I live to play the devil's advocate.

by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 13, 2012 11:24 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, except

he’s really a first baseman (better than Young). is left handed, which we need. has light tower power, which is a good thing. drew 107 walks last year. Is durable. drew 107 walks last year. hits for pretty high average (.280’s – .290’s) , drew 107 walks last year.

did I mention he drew 107 walks last year? More than Josh Hamilton, Adrian Beltre, and Nelson Cruz, COMBINED.

sign him. NOW.

Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011

by iblum on Jan 14, 2012 4:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I have mixed emotions about this.

I’d love to have Fielder … for the next 4 or so years. After that, I’m scared.

Still, if they can lock up Yu and add Fielder to an already dominant lineup … wow.

"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball

by Athos on Jan 13, 2012 3:35 PM CST reply actions  

My feeling...

…is that you shouldn’t give a shit about what happens four years down the road. You can cross that bridge when you come to it.

This isn’t the same as signing AROD to play for a real shitty Ranger’s team. This is like McGriff signing with the 90s Braves, a team that was already good enough to win it all.

And besides, you can swallow contract downsides like that IF you don’t spend the rest of your money on the Chan Ho’s of the world. I think this management can handle it.

by Bats and Balls on Jan 13, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

You are really that concerned about Fielder being bad after five years?

I didn’t say to be stupid about it. I said that you shouldn’t have those fears about signing this one player given the situation the Rangers now find themselves in. If Fielder puts us over the top, then I have no problem signing him to six years, no matter what happens after year 4.

This is especially true since a.) Tom Hicks isn’t here to screw it up, b.) Nolan and the Ninja are proving themselves quite capable of building a great team, and c.) there’s a shit ton of money coming down the pike, espeicially after our boys win the next three championships. :)

No guarantees that we’ll win with him, but there’s no guarantee tha he won’t earn all of his contract either, even if it does end up with ABs as a DH.

We should be grateful that there’s nobody like the Yanks and Sox around to drive up the bid. We’re fortunate in that regard.

by Bats and Balls on Jan 13, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

This is the stupidest post you've made

since the last time you posted

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:09 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

You're a dick and a pussy...

…all at the same time. Amazing how you do that!

by Bats and Balls on Jan 13, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh...

…and not one person can form a rebuttal here.

If you guys are gonna can me stupid, at least tell me why.

by Bats and Balls on Jan 13, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Because "I don't care what happens 4 years down the road"

is a stupid thing only stupid people post. It’s Bigsteveian.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

YOu know

I have a feeling if we literally had a poster who did nothing but make queefing sounds like a real human vagina would, it’d still make a lot more salient points than you. Yeah, it’d just be some douche making disgusting noises, but at least it wouldn’t expect others to take the disgusting noises seriously.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

If you saw a post that started

The Rangers should DFA Elvis Andrus

and then 4 paragraphs followed… would you bother reading the explanation?

by Jobu. on Jan 13, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

There is no explanation

The explanation is apparently – well, we’ll have money, so why not waste it! It’s not so much an explanation as it is an alcoholic vomiting over himself and then trying to suck nutrients from his bilious, feculant shirt. It’s just kind of sad for everyone involved.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

hmm

you seem to be mad

Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw

by Chrom on Jan 13, 2012 5:28 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Actually, I'm quite peachy!

Have an after-work Hopdevil IPA and enjoying a Fielder hard-on.

You?

by Bats and Balls on Jan 13, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I am wonderful

thanks for asking

Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw

by Chrom on Jan 13, 2012 5:44 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Unless of course if we're talking about Adrian Beltre.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 13, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Adrian Beltre

is a better bet to age well than Prince, me thinks

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

OPS by month you numbskull

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Jan 13, 2012 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean seriously

it’s not only that you’re dumb, but you now apparently need people to explain to you how dumb you are. I’ve met schizophrenics with more insight than you.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

One more thing...

…it’d be a different story if there was a bunch of sunken cost in already shitty players. You can afford to have one or two sinkholes…not five or six like the Rangers of the early oughts. It’s not like we are the Yankees with a bunch of AJ Burnett type players.

Besides, I’d be much more concerned about signing Hamilton than Fielder.

by Bats and Balls on Jan 13, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

You pretty much lost everyone

when you said we shouldn’t give a shit about what happens 4 years down the road.

by Jobu. on Jan 13, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe he believe in the Mayan Calender of some such

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

This

having money doesn’t mean you should be trying to waste it.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW, personal attacks aside...

…question for you guys:

My suggestion, that you could likely piece together in my disjointed posts above (my apologies), is that I would swallow $50 million of a bad Fielder in years 5 and 6 of a contract given what most of us would expect he brings in the first four years. (All of which is conjecture anyway.)

So, how is that any different in overpaying $51 million THIS year for Darvish…a pitcher who hasn’t proven anything as of yet?

I’m all for the Darvish signing too, but it’s funny (to me) how we worry about wasting $50 million five years from now but have no problem spending an extra 50 million (beyond the actual contract of the player itself) to sign Darvish this year.

by Bats and Balls on Jan 13, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Because one you pay up front

for a player who is 25 and likely to perform throughout the life of his contract. The other is 50 million you add to the 2016-2017 payroll at the cost of extending someone like X future superstar. One doesn’t have opportunity costs nor does it burden the Rangers with an untradable player with an untradable contract. THe other does. It’s pretty simple.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Whoh...

…okay, Fielder is 27. A fat 27, but only 27. I think man would likely say that there’s more likelihood in Darvish failing the year’s 5 and 6 of a contract rather than Fielder.

If Fielder gets fatter, at least he can still hit 50 HRs a year like his Old Man. Injuries and underperformance, IMO, are much more likely with Darvish, especially given his current mileage.

Again, I’m not opposed to either signing (not that you care), but I think we are kidding ourselves that Darvish is guaranteed to have better overall value that Fielder in a six year deal.

by Bats and Balls on Jan 13, 2012 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Once again

you’re missing the point.

1st, that’s a lot of dumb assumptions. Power? It ages like shit. There was an article on how bad power ages just a few days ago. Read it. Assuming Fielder will hit 50 HRs even when he’s 33 or so is really. really dumb. It’s like assuming that 2012 Michael Young will be like 2011 Michael Young. Could it happen? Yeah. Will it? I don’t know, but most likely not.

Even then, the argument wasn’t about how good they’re likely to be, but the opportunity cost associated with it. THat 50 million for Darvish? That’s just operating cost, like when the Rangers install a jumbotron on their scoreboard. Darvish gets none of it, and it’s just a one time deal that’s at least partially tax deductible. It’s not a part of year-to-year operating cost. That 50 million for Fielder? That will be a part of the year to year budget. It makes it hard to sign guys like Elvis Andrus or Neftali Feliz when he inevitably reaches FA. It also takes up a roster spot for any future potential DH or 1Bs. It pays money to a non-productive part of your team. It’s like paying CHoP all over again. And that’s bad.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

ANd once again

I find your whole operating assumption flawed. No one is worried about giving prince 8 years because they’re too afraid to take the chance. This FO takes fucking chances all the time. Literally every move they made this offseason is a chance.

People are worried about giving Prince Fielder a 8 year contract (or a 7 or a 6 or a 5) because not all chances are equal. There are certain players that age well – contact hitters, defensive specialists, even speedsters are surprisingly good at retaining value. Guys who don’t age well tend to be power guys with low BA, lots of strike outs, lots of walks – Prince Fielder, essentially. Add that to a bad body and it’s pretty clear to see why people are worried. Make no mistake – a bad contract cripples an organization – I don’t care if it’s Yu Darvish or Prince Fielder. It’s just a simple matter of the amount of years you’re going to have to commit to either

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

bah

and their relative ability to reproduce their past success.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

And, oh yeah...

…the time value of money dictates that paying out an extra $50 million upon signing is much worse than paying it out five or six years later, especially for a pitcher that could be one pitch away from retirement.

by Bats and Balls on Jan 13, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

different assignments of costs

The two really aren’t that comparable, though the numbers look the same when you type them

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

here we go.. painting my chest and running around uptown dallas

PF Rangers love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i better chug this bottle of vodka first

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"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 3:35 PM CST reply actions  

Do it.

Do it.
Do it.
Do it.

by bhudson on Jan 13, 2012 3:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

literally an all star lineup minus CF

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"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Best team in baseball

I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)

by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

This is really going to happen!

Yu and Prince!

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 3:40 PM CST reply actions  

Fielder to Boras...

Please Please Scott dont mess this up… I don’t want to have to pick those other teams..

by Vicky on Jan 13, 2012 3:40 PM CST reply actions  

Be still my boner

Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.

by Bface on Jan 13, 2012 3:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

HIP THRUST!

HIP THRUST!

"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game

by safeman on Jan 13, 2012 3:44 PM CST reply actions  

SPANK IT!

SPANK IT!

"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game

by safeman on Jan 13, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

They need to lock-upp a deal with Yu first...

"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

by pinoyintegrity on Jan 13, 2012 3:46 PM CST reply actions  

lock-up*

"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

by pinoyintegrity on Jan 13, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that's why you're starting to see some activity with Fielder....

the Darvish deal may be about done….

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 13, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

okay. just want to make sure we get Yu

"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

by pinoyintegrity on Jan 13, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

this signals to me that its been locked up

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Thinking about Mitch Moreland hearing this news

reminds me of goET’s great Fanpost sympathizing with Travis Metcalf when Young moved to 3rd…

by VM on Jan 13, 2012 3:47 PM CST reply actions  

Me, too.

Maybe he’ll call Mitch up and invite him out for a beer after the Rangers sign Prince.

“I know how you feel, Mitch… Want to grab a pitcher and throw some darts?”

by VM on Jan 13, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

also, this..
He helped lead the Wamego Red Raider baseball program in Wamego to the Kansas 4A State Championship in 2000, his senior year at Wamego High School. Metcalf holds the career home run record at the University of Kansas with 29 and held the single season record (18) from 2003 to 2009.

by 6th street on Jan 13, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

sho wuz

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"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 13, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

x
@JeffWilson_FWST
Jeff Wilson
Source confirms #Rangers meeting with Prince Fielder, but suggests the first baseman is Plan B if Yu Darvish doesn’t sign.

by Endyr on Jan 13, 2012 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

True, true.

Hindsight gets a lot of cuppage.

I’m envious.

by VM on Jan 13, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

On it's way to green, this one is.

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Jan 13, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

it needs about 35,000 recs

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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Jan 13, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Something was done here

I used to own Mickey Tettleton's couch.

by Pith on Jan 13, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Plan A is both

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

"No... that's just what they'll be expecting us to do!"

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 13, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Plan C

Move to NL Central in 2013

by Heebs on Jan 13, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

suggest the opposite... suggest yu is locke dup

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Ninja just doing what he do.

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

Probably nothing

Fielder just wanted to come get some good BBQ

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 3:50 PM CST reply actions  

Then why is he in Dallas? Should be in Ft Worth......

/ducks and runs

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 13, 2012 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Smoke Tofu?

No, I think he ditched that when he realized he was getting just as close to a coronary bypass eating large cheese pizzas

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't believe so, thought I read he dropped it.

and, of course I have no link.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 13, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks for the solid, guy.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 13, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks for the solid, turd.

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Jan 13, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully we do get both Yu and Prince

man, are they gonna be baking in some Texas Heat come June – August.. bless their hearts

"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

by pinoyintegrity on Jan 13, 2012 3:50 PM CST reply actions  

?

Not to jump on you, but this is such a tired bit by now
Yes, it’s hot in Texas. There are also other cities in the US that have outdoor baseball facilities in which it his hot.

And I think they made the point this year that the heat hurts the visiting team more than it hurts the Rangers. It’s almost an advantage.

And from a fellow big guys’ perspective, nothing wrong with dropping a few pounds while you do what you were going to do anyway.

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Heyman
prince fielder has embarked on latest tour of teams. hes going to travel to see several teams the next few days. #thetour

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by texasrfan on Jan 13, 2012 3:52 PM CST reply actions  

Heh

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

This was tweeted by Mike Bacsik, roughly 22 hours ago....
Mike Bacsik @MikeBacsik 22h
It seems like Prince Fielder might fall into the Rangers laps.

by RobGordon on Jan 13, 2012 3:53 PM CST reply actions  

He's no IaNF.....

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 13, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Followed soon after by a tweet about dirty Mexicans?

"A lot of people may not know this, but I happen to be quite famous." - Sam "MayDay" Malone

by SoWasRed on Jan 13, 2012 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Heyman again...
prince in texas today (as @BNightengale said). but dont read 2 much into it. even if they r a "finalist,’’ they are 1 of many

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by texasrfan on Jan 13, 2012 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

Heyman doesn't know dick about dick.

Shut up, Heyman.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Now, now. He's a fine journalist.

After all, he nailed the mystery team scoop last year!

by VM on Jan 13, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, they have a cool $50 million to spend.

Prince, here’s your pillow deal – 1 year in the NPB at $51.7 million!

by VM on Jan 13, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Prince Fielder ...

… poster boy for Nippon Ham … could really launch the brand outside of Japan … hmmm?

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

He mad

Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.

by Bface on Jan 13, 2012 3:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Many?

Really, many?

Let’s count the teams worth a darn that are pursuing him: Washington ….
Well, that’s many … letters

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

This is probably a bitter, rush post from Heyman because

he just got scooped by Nightengale….

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 13, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

that would be le tits.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 13, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

And not at all likely.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

That may not be true

But last Wednesday, Prince went out and got a tattoo of Jon Daniels on his left ass cheek. This is most definitely true and not at all made up.

by dolphinpuncher on Jan 13, 2012 4:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yu.

Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.

by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

...

"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game

by safeman on Jan 13, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Saving the right side for a life-size version of Mt. Rushmore

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Jan 13, 2012 8:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

jeez

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 13, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree

But … and I’m not saying it’s all that likely, but how much do you think it weighs on an unsigned FA’s mind to see Madson settle for the deal he took?

He was looking at 4 years and comfort for life, and now he’s playing for a paycheck again in 2013.

Just saying …

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

best story of the year

Boras player goes and makes his own deal with the club he wants to play for …

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

And then that club never deals with Boras again.

This is an absurd hypothetical.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't A-Rod basically do this with his NYY contract?

@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.

by TargetField on Jan 13, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Highly unlikely, yes

But not absurd
It’s getting late, and the Prince wants to know which restaurants to start looking through to find his faves …

And just saying, but didn’t Boras represent Weaver?
And didn’t Weaver sign the deal the club wanted him to sign so he could stay in Anaheim?

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Tony Gwynn represented himself for his last contract

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I try to ignore all posts from this man concerning the Rangers..

Seems to have issues with our team for some reason other then being the blowhard that he is.

by Vicky on Jan 13, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

If I'm the Rangers...

I sign Fielder and let Josh walk next year. No guarantees with Josh..he may breakdown, etc. Going to have to revamp the OF anyway. Go for it again this year and then get to work on the OF. Maybe trade pitchers for OF prospects at the deadline this year.

"I only ride things with horns." - Closure GT

by ortonius on Jan 13, 2012 4:06 PM CST reply actions  

So true. So, so true.

But what about Choo?

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Harrison and what for AJones?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 13, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Sort of...

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I have to say, having watched him out there live a bunch,

he’s not as good in center as I’d thought he was supposed to be.

Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.

by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd rather pay Gentry the minimum.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

If Wash's offseason manuevers didn't make it abundantly clear that dealing Morse isn't in the cards, then yeah.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Twins tried to trade away Span if aware throwing shit out there

@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.

by TargetField on Jan 13, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Can we skip that and go right to the

WHY AREN’T THE RANGERS TRYING HARDER TO EXTEND THEY’RE YOUNG PLAYERS AND WHY OH WHY DID THEY SIGN ADRIAN BELTRE WHEN HE’S KEEPING THEM FROM SPENDING MONEY ON OTHER GOOD PLAYERS AND THIS OFF-SEASON IS FULL OF INCREDIBLE SUCK IT DOES NOT MATTER ANYMORE GOODBYE.

Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.

by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Welp

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 13, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I sense historic potential in this thread.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 13, 2012 4:11 PM CST reply actions  

I doubt it.

I don’t think anything is coming down the pipe today.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Bigger than Spanish Beltre thread?

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

like I said....potential.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 13, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

The only thing that will be epic about this thread...

Is the inevitable trolling.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

lol
JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
#rangers people have suggested they are "unlikely’’ to be able to do both #prince and #yu. but they are creative types

"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

by pinoyintegrity on Jan 13, 2012 4:12 PM CST reply actions  

1.5/10

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Ouch.

Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.

by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

$1.5 mil per year for 10 years?

Sign me up! Ha.

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jan 13, 2012 4:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Bring me a live pig!

@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.

by TargetField on Jan 13, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

...wench!

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Jan 14, 2012 2:21 AM CST up reply actions  

This BoSox blog suggests...

that the Darvish thing is a ruse to keep him away from other teams, and the Rangers wanted Fielder all along. Ummm…ok.

Darvish a Ruse for Fielder

"I only ride things with horns." - Closure GT

by ortonius on Jan 13, 2012 4:14 PM CST reply actions  

BUT THAT GUY SAID THE RANGERS HAD WON THE BIDDING FOR YU HOURS BEFORE IT WAS ANNOUNCED!

HE KNOWS SOMETHING!

(That part is actually true. He did announce the Rangers had won the bidding. Maybe he’s on a “I guessed something correctly!” high.)

by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 13, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

WHAT?!
Perhaps they would rather put that $100 million toward a Decade Deal, say $250 million with the Prince who will likely be the best hitter in MLB for the next 10 years.

by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 13, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Sad.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

This guy

I hope he has an aneurysm

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

THat's where I had to do a double take

Fielder’s gonna need a ton of Sosa pills to be the best hitter in the MLB when he’s 37.

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Jan 13, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

He'd need to put less shit

in his mouth, not more

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Sosa pills and diet pills then

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Jan 13, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

i sense the slapping down of the moneypenis

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Jan 13, 2012 4:14 PM CST reply actions  

WHAT?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Why?

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't he dating IANFs sister?

I think IANF complained about it to the Rangers

I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)

by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I doubt the Rangers would give two shits.

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by Ryin A on Jan 13, 2012 6:16 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

no and no...

and no

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by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Herbie gone?!
I wanted to let all of you know that as of yesterday, I am no longer with the Texas Rangers. I would like to extend a sincere thanks to all of you for making the past 12 months the most fun I have ever had working in this industry. I will be taking with me some extraordinary memories and I wish only the best for this franchise in the future. If you have any questions regarding Fan Fest this weekend please visit texasrangers.com/fanfest for all of the event details.
-Herbie

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by texasrfan on Jan 13, 2012 4:20 PM CST reply actions  

Who is herbie?

@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.

by TargetField on Jan 13, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Rangers social media guy

he hooked LSB up on tailgates and provided a little inside info here from time to time. Good dude.

by Heebs on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah, thanks

@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.

by TargetField on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Herbie Pallotta

came in with Greenberg group. Has been fan friendly, posted on LSB, etc.

by VM on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Why?

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

What a bummer...

He was a Greenberg guy so it isn’t surprising.

I love you, Herbert!

by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 13, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I BET THIS IS NOLAN'S DOING.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Vrooom, vrooom party starter!

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 13, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Morbidly obese, ghost.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 13, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

If you can only have one between Prince and Yu...who do you want?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 13, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

personally I'll take Yu

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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Jan 13, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Can Darvish get one hitter out in The Show before we gloss him with the term "TORP"?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 13, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

How about TORT

Top of the Rotation Talent?
Better?

Could bust for sure, as could Moore for the Rays. But he’s young and talented and coming to town (most likely), and that was the ‘challenge’ you laid down for JD

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

There's a bad lawyer joke in here somewhere, but I'm too tired to find it.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 13, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

so, you're going to rest?

/bad lawyer joke

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by t ball on Jan 13, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Darvish

and it’s not that close

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Red 80!!!!!!! Red 80!!!!!!!

Kill! Kill! Kill!! OMAHA! OMAHA! Set hut!

by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 13, 2012 4:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

.
BenRogers Ben Rogers
Always believed it was a matter of Josh vs Prince. Not Yu vs Prince. Yu will sign regardless. But which power lefty do you want long term?

by octoberty on Jan 13, 2012 4:21 PM CST reply actions  

Oh, the choices, the choices.

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by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Trade Josh for something?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 13, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

No,

he plays LF in 2012.

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Jan 13, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

.....

…..
. . . ..
. . ….. ….

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Jan 13, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

So the local guys got scooped again.

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 4:30 PM CST reply actions  

this is when evan grant rights a piece on the overhype of the PF

just because he had no fucking clue what was going on or that PF was in dallas

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"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Fwa fwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Speaking of Napoli

Would it be wrong to call a Napoli homer a wet nap? What about an RBI where Fielder is driven in? Don’t those just fit together perfectly?

by Heebs on Jan 13, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I love that clutch smurf posted this

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Jan 13, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions  

This makes me want Prince even more.

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by TXHC on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

What a thumbs up ass Winter this has been.

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 4:45 PM CST reply actions  

Im walking to the ritz carlton at 5:30. i shall report back soon

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 4:47 PM CST reply actions  

I am a greedy man

even if the Rangers do sign Fielder, I kinda want them to money whip Jorge Soler as well.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 4:56 PM CST reply actions  

Umm

Soler is 4 years younger (he’s 4 months younger than Jurick), is probably not going to stick in CF due to size, has a lot more power and a lot less polish. I don’t see what Soler has to do with Leonys at all.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting

I’ve thought he was a CF all the way.

by Jobu. on Jan 13, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

he's 6'3" and able to add a lot of weight

he might be a CF in the same way that Josh is a CF

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I am firmly in the non-Fielder camp

but if it’s a 5-6 year deal, that’d be a heck of a lot easier to swallow than an 8 year deal.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 4:58 PM CST reply actions  

In all honestly

I think 95 percent of LSB is in the non Feilder camp if it means 8 plus years.

We ALL want him, but on a reasonable deal.

Yu is ours

by FelizCheez on Jan 13, 2012 5:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Please keep all your bad opinions located in one thread

so if anyone ever feels the need to lobotomize themselves, they have 1 stop shopping.

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't really think brilliance has anything to do with it

it’s functionality. A functional human being is able to do simple things like making arguments that isn’t just “Waste money because you can afford it soon!”

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Again, that's not my argument.

I suggested that a potential (but not probable) $50 million wasted dollars at the end of a six year deal shouldn’t play into our signing of a player that will likely put us over the top.

As I said above, it appears that we have little problem spending $51 million EXTRA on a Japanese pitcher THIS year to accomplish the same thing.

I think too many people around here are simply overly cautious, something understandably arising from the Hicks/Hart days, and should place more trust in current management.

by Bats and Balls on Jan 13, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

You keep

making this comparison and it’s a false equivalence of the highest degree.

It’s comparing 2 different types of money spent on 2 different types of players.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not one for spontaneous smiles

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Ron will still find a way to piss me off, I'm sure of it.

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Jan 14, 2012 2:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think

we should work ourselves up to a frenzy about this, since it’s obviously just JD trolling Matt Meyers.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:10 PM CST reply actions  

So will Paula Deen break the news on Twitter this time?

"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 13, 2012 5:19 PM CST reply actions  

On another note,

I heard the hardline talking today about the Rangers looking Joel Zumaya. Isn’t that the guy that snapped his arm off in Detroit throwing like a billion mph?

I’d take a flier since he’s throwing again.

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Jan 13, 2012 5:20 PM CST reply actions  

I can relate.

After an intense GH session, my hand cramped up really bad.

It hurt.

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Jan 13, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

We sign both Prince and Yu

and I will jizz in my pants.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Jan 13, 2012 5:23 PM CST reply actions  

I wanna see some jizz

therefore, we WILL sign both Prince and Yu.

"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

by pinoyintegrity on Jan 13, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

This is a very awkward thing to say.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

He will have to take my word.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Jan 13, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

okay

"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

by pinoyintegrity on Jan 13, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Really? That's it?

After that strong opening statement, I figured you’d much more persistent about seeing said jizz.

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Jan 13, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I think everyone

was expecting it, and no one wanted to see it on page

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

here's my question

What is the place of journalist rumors during negotiations? What role can that really serve? Freaking out the competition, the agents?

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jan 13, 2012 5:32 PM CST reply actions  

Spawning crazy threads on LSB

"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 13, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

dude

Are you writing for the Onion?

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jan 13, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Interning.

I’m in the office right now, actually. Drinking whiskey.

"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 13, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

that's gigantic

Congrats. Is that SoHo?

What part of town you living?

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jan 13, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

If that's true

You are my hero.

Whiskey.

In an office.

You should find a secretary and slap her on the ass.

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Jan 13, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

The secretary is hot, but sadly left.

This place is pretty awesome.

"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 13, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

It sounds like it.

Congrats and good luck going forward.

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Jan 13, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

One year deal, with a player option for years 2 and 3

$18.5 million per year

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Jan 13, 2012 5:34 PM CST reply actions  

Might as well make it official

"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 13, 2012 5:38 PM CST reply actions  

I think we shot this one too soon

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

if this actually happens

Yu+ Feilder, all I would be able to say is this:

LSB- Ninja’d…..

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST

by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 13, 2012 5:40 PM CST reply actions  

Today is the first day I've thought it would really happen.

Nightengale has some fucking sources. When he says shit I listen.

Heyman is trying to keep Boras with some leverage…

Wilson is trying to keep the Rangers with some leverage…

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 13, 2012 5:48 PM CST reply actions  

I think

we’ll know for sure when Rosenthal or Gammons weigh in.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

In a post about Brian Braden?

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

One of my favorites.

“He’s in Japan now T.R.”

“There’s a war again?”

Picard.jpg

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 13, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Nightengale

Said on 103.3 that he expects the Rangers to sign Fielder and Yu.

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 5:59 PM CST up reply actions  

After hearing that interview

I nearly peed my pants… Man, I can hardly even hold back my excitement.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi

by blalock84 on Jan 13, 2012 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

It'll be in the notes

2500 words on Braden, and then notes of the Prince Fielder signing below a note about Justin Grimm and one about former Rangers great Andres Blanco.

Also, where the hell is our utility IF? What’s Omar Vizquel doing?

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Or Passan.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

and meanwhile..

Evan Grant is trying to get someone to talk to him

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Not that it matters immensely (see what i did there?) ...

But I bet that Wash could make a better 1B out of Fielder

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 6:00 PM CST reply actions  

idk

is it just a terribly hard position to learn or to play?

by RangerMad on Jan 13, 2012 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

jcrasnick: The #Mariners are moving closer to a trade for a young impact hitter, two baseball sources confirmed.

by coolaid on Jan 13, 2012 6:00 PM CST reply actions  

Jason Heyward?

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

No way

not with Posada retiring.

Martin Prado?

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

That park

is kind of death to LH hitters though right?

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought the thought process of why they should

have taken Montero instead of Smoak was that it killed Lefties.

Huh. What do you know

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Kinda even according to statcorner.com

I do know its hell for a right handed pull hitter.

by coolaid on Jan 13, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Please trade for Billy Butler mariners

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

He'd have like 2 HRs at Safeco

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi

by blalock84 on Jan 13, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh.

Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.

by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey that's one way to solve his GIDP problems

go to a team with no one on base! Problem solved!

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

We'll trade Moreland for Smoak

just because we can.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

And then

Michael Young will demand a trade

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Come one guys

which one of you will take this underhanded pitch

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Others

Eric Thames? Travis Snider? (yeah, I know, not really impact)

Could you see someone like Wil Meyers from KC be dealt? Or maybe Michael Choice from Oakland?

I’m running down the list of young impact hitters who are on the market and there’s not really a ton. Dominic Brown maybe?

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Pineda for Morrison

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope

Morrison for Pineda.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

.
jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick
It’s a "significant trade,’’ says one source. And Brandon League is not part of the return package.

by octoberty on Jan 13, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Would they sell on Pineda now?

That seems on the surface like an indefensible move, unless some advance stats show that his success was heavily dependent on their park.

If they really want to turn things around, getting a clearing house of talent for Felix really would be the best way to start.

by CO Ranger on Jan 13, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Felix and Pineda

I’m not sure if they’re on the same stratosphere as far as talent and future value. Pineda is really a 2 pitch guy, not that different than someone like Alexi Ogando. If they think it’s selling high, it makes sense – especially with Walker, Paxton, Hultzen et al coming.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Intresting...

Rany Jazayerli mentioned Billy Butler. That might make sense.

by coolaid on Jan 13, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

OH SHIT...

what if its Andrew McCutchen? Please let it be Andrew McCutchen. Please let it be Andrew McCutchen. Please let it be Andrew McCutchen.

by coolaid on Jan 13, 2012 6:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Fuck that shit

I like andrew mccutchen

fuck him being a mariner

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by MonkeyEpoxy on Jan 13, 2012 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah that does

I was thinking Royals. I don’t know how I might have missed BUtler. Oh that’s right, he’s not an impact hitter.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

MIKE OLT plus for Pineda?

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

No

I’m not a very big believer in Pineda.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

eww

we can do better than that

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by Spadedsnake on Jan 13, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Like a pic of some diseased balls?

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

yes boomer

like a pic of Hicks leper balls.

That doesn’t change the fact the pineda for olt plus isnt the best option

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by Spadedsnake on Jan 13, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

And if this is a huge trade

The A’s and Astros should just combine their teams and go from there.

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Mitch Moreland?

Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon

by rchawk12 on Jan 13, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

This is also interesting

in the context that the Mariners were one of the few teams still in on Prince.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

sandbagging

Any chance the prevailing wisdom that the Rangers dont have the money to get both Fielder and Darvish is just more sandbagging and positioning for negotiations with both players?

Go Rangers! Go Cowboys! Go FSU!

by tdi1985 on Jan 13, 2012 6:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Do it

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Cmon Prince

the fruits and vegetables are fresher in texas

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by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 13, 2012 6:20 PM CST reply actions  

Alright JD, my body is ready and my hopes are up.

I’m going to see Contraband. When I get back, I hope to see Ninjaings up the wazoo.

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by The Hutch on Jan 13, 2012 6:26 PM CST reply actions  

It wont happen that fast

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Welp
. @stonelarry hearing rumblings it MAY involve pineda and montero

by octoberty on Jan 13, 2012 6:28 PM CST reply actions  

Woah

who DHes for the Yankees?

DO IT NY.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

That makes a lot of sense

actually.

Shit.

I can now totally see this happening.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Plus 40 legit HRs

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Prince FIelder will hit 120 HRs

single handedly kill 30 people

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Manny+Yankees

That would be fun

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

For like 2 minutes

or until the first yankees-red sox game

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

Poor Justin Smoak.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Hahaha...

That would be the ultimate “We fucked up the Cliff Lee trade” admission.

by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 13, 2012 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I kinda want Justin back

I miss the Smoak puns, which I believe were the precursor to all other puns.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

After a full season with Yu

You will never want to hear a pun ever again

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

We should trade Koji for him (or Mark Lowe, how hilarious would that be)

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Really freaking hilarious

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Mariners fan

“So we traded Cliff Lee for Blake Beavan and…John Jaso?” Fuck.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Lueke!!!

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Traded for Jaso right?

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh yeah

That’s where you got Jaso

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry

that should read

“Cliff Lee for John Jaso, Blake Beavan, and the ability to use google”

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Smoak gets in Yur eyes.

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by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Princely pun, right there

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

NY being on the market for a DH might mean we hold off on the Prince puns.

On the other hand, everyone make Smoak puns. Positive thoughts!

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

It really would be.

Hard to see it happening for that reason alone. Would be a huge mea culpa for Zoinks.

by LiamP on Jan 13, 2012 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously though

that dude had one of the worst years humanly possible.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Adam Dunn begs to differ

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I mean humanly possible not so much as in a baseball performance lvl

but on a personal level. Lost his dad to cancer, got hurt all the time, was hitting really well and then just got deluged by a lot of shit. Poor dude.

Come back Justin! We still love you.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Will they let Montero catch?

better yet, will this lead to multiple Rangers getting 50+ stolen bases? Will Felix lead the league in wild pitches? This opens up so many questions.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

may...as in misty may...as in matt treanor's wife

READ BETWEEN THE LINES..THIS INVOLVES US SOMEHOW

by dolphinpuncher on Jan 13, 2012 6:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

WE DON'T HAVE TREANOR

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

AND WE ALWAYS WILL

THAT TRIPLE

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 7:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

.
JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
montero is traded for pineda

by octoberty on Jan 13, 2012 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

.
JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
trade involves more players than that tho. @StoneLarry suggested it first

by octoberty on Jan 13, 2012 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

This sounds like a preemptive move

things are falling into place, shit is happening.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

This talk of them wanting to be under the $189M tax threshold in '14 is mind boggling.

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by Brad on Jan 13, 2012 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure I buy it.

I would not be at all surprised if this is a precursor to signing Fielder.

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by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Is Teixeira still on the team in this scenario?

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by Brad on Jan 13, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

1B

and DH yeah.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Why not?

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by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Because I don't think any DH has ever received a monster contract.

What’s the best Ortiz ever got?

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by Brad on Jan 13, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

4/50 or something like that? But he was never 27 to start a deal

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

No kidding

it’s like they were tired of guys playing on the kiddie pool and decided to show us all how a real team with no payroll limitations blow guys out of the water.

We’re thinking 8-180 for Fielder?

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Wouldn't surprise me.

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by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

It would me.

No one pays that for a DH. Not even the Yankees.

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by Brad on Jan 13, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

This sounds like you're tempting fate

the Yankees would absolutely spend that much on a DH if they felt they wanted to.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup.

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by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Eh... if they do, they do.

Darvish will be a Ranger. That’s the most important thing.

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by Brad on Jan 13, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I want the Rangers to get Smoak again

I have a love of Justin Smoak that borders on irrational.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think anyone's disputing that.

But a “meh” to the Yankees adding Pineda and Fielder for the cost of, say, Montero, Betances, and a bunch of money?

I don’t know, man, That’d be an amazing lineup, with better pitching.

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by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I choose not to worry about things like that.

Just focused on what the Rangers do.

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by Brad on Jan 13, 2012 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

OK.

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by Snark on Jan 13, 2012 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

If the Yankees get Fielder I will be pissed.

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by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I wish his name really was Stone Larry.

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by Ryin A on Jan 13, 2012 6:40 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Has to be another big name going to Seattle.

Otherwise this shit is so hilariously bad for the M’s.

by LiamP on Jan 13, 2012 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Montero and Banuelos?

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by MonkeyEpoxy on Jan 13, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably not that high

though I don’t think it really matters which overrated pitching prospect they throw in.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

He walked 13% of guys he faced this year

and that’s been his career average.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Still only 21, stuff still great, mechanics are clean.

Not going to punish him too greatly for wildness at this point.

by LiamP on Jan 13, 2012 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Betances is more likely, I think

of course he’s also probably a reliever

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by MonkeyEpoxy on Jan 13, 2012 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

Betances makes sense

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

ok, he’s pretty good.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

isn't noesi a reliever

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by MonkeyEpoxy on Jan 13, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

nope wrong person like a retard

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by MonkeyEpoxy on Jan 13, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Noesi

is a lot like Pineda too right? So there’s a chance that Dr. Z managed to trade Pineda for Montero and last year’s Pineda?

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Noesi has nowhere near the upside of Pineda.

This is not a good trade for Seattle. At all.

by LiamP on Jan 13, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

They need to finish it off

and trade us Justin Smoak already.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

way less fastball from what I see

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by MonkeyEpoxy on Jan 13, 2012 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

also way less slider

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by MonkeyEpoxy on Jan 13, 2012 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

HMM

without even begining to look at numbers, this actually seems like a good move for both teams. Though, I think either one could end up as big bust on their new teams. They’re moving to the opposite kind of parks that would play well for them.

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by blalock84 on Jan 13, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I offer a hearty good luck to Pineda's 35% groundball rate in front of that right field porch

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by MonkeyEpoxy on Jan 13, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Indeed.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 13, 2012 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly

I like Pineda a whole hell of alot; but he worries me in that park. Still, I think this was a pretty reasonable move by Yankees.

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by blalock84 on Jan 13, 2012 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

hahahaha

hahahahaha

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I do not like this.

Because it makes the Yankees’ rotation better.

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by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

This

I think they might very well get him, but it’ll cost them a lot of money.

BUt guys, can we focus on what’s really important. Justin Smoak. How will we reacquire him. Go.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

x
JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
montero is traded for pineda

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by Brad on Jan 13, 2012 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

WOW

what can we offer to get Justin Smoak back?

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

sorry

I meant – what can the Blue Jays offer for Justin Smoak, and which reliever can we offer to the BLue Jays to get him?

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:40 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Jays do the pearing for us

and we take pears after they’re done pearing

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by blalock84 on Jan 13, 2012 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Snider for Smoak

Uehara for Smoak

Make it happen AA and JD

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would you want Smoak?

he’s really not that good, and extremely slow

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 13, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

He was really good for a few months

I still believe in all that talent

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

This is completely the wrong team for Smoak, and vice versa.

What happens if he tanks the first month and a half? Dude needs an environment where he can struggle and not worry about losing his job.

by LiamP on Jan 13, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Baltimore?

or the Astros or I suppose the Mariners would have been good fits, except no offensive player is a good fit in Safeco

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by NothinG on Jan 13, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

No

No more of this talk. We want Justin Smoak. Positive thoughts.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I think

the fact taht we’ve carried Davis and 2nd half moreland at different parts of the last 2 years proves that it’s not impossible for us to carry him, even if he were to struggle for a month and a half.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Davis was canned the first time for Smoak even though Smoak probably wasn't ready.

This team is also in a much different position than they were in 2009 and 2010 when Davis bombed.

They frequently subbed Moreland with Napoli/Face/Torrealba. Why wouldn’t they do the same with Smoak if he was here and struggled again?

by LiamP on Jan 13, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Whhaaat

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

double wow!

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by Spadedsnake on Jan 13, 2012 6:39 PM CST reply actions  

It is Friday the 13th.

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by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2012 6:42 PM CST reply actions  

It's also Friday the 13th for the Angels

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 13, 2012 6:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

IT'S SO GREAT TO HAVE BASEBALL THINGS HAPPENING!!!

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by benjihana on Jan 13, 2012 6:47 PM CST reply actions  

Woah

the Ms gave up Jesus Campos in the deal as well?

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:54 PM CST reply actions  

Yep

Zoinks ain’t that great.

by sprite on Jan 13, 2012 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm so confused by this trade.

Yankees fans hate it, but they’re stupid and their judgment is completely clouded by Montero’s debut.

by LiamP on Jan 13, 2012 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow...

What a shitty trade for the Mariners and I kind of buy into selling high on Pineda.

by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 13, 2012 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah no kidding

was Jesus Campos really worth giving up for Hector Noeisi?

Seriously though, everyone needs to think of ways to get Justin Smoak. Like right fucking now.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Is there anyone

that expects Montero to catch?

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

i think that even the homer yankee fans were taking their front office's optimism with a grain of salt at the end

Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck

btho Iowa State

by MonkeyEpoxy on Jan 13, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Kinda like the

“we don’t know the google” excuse?

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Or Chone Figgins?

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a very bad trade

regardless of when it’s for.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Pineda is a baby and has one year of service time completed.

What year is he for?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 13, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Mitch Moreland's stat inflation.

Also, I want some Justin Smoak ideas from you sir.

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

idk what Seattle has in the pitching pipeline

but they desparately need some offense. They must obvioulsy feel Montero has more value then Pineda.

by RangerMad on Jan 13, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Hultzen, Walker and Paxton

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I think they think he can catch

they’re wrong

Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck

btho Iowa State

by MonkeyEpoxy on Jan 13, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

how do they justify giving up Campos

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Franklin Gutierrez's extension

based on an unsustainable high defensive rating?

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

the jesus campos that throws really really hard?

Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck

btho Iowa State

by MonkeyEpoxy on Jan 13, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes that one

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I would hate to be Jesus Montero right now

you know, besides getting to play baseball for a living

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by Chrom on Jan 13, 2012 6:56 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

x
Evan Grant @Evan_P_Grant
Boras and Fielder requested meeting with Rangers; still believed to be searching for 8 years or more. Would have to take fewer from Texas.

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by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 6:57 PM CST reply actions  

Damn

Yankees here he comes

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by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

You're trusting Evan Grant?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 13, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought all fat people

have an uni-mind. You know, like the North Koreans.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jan 13, 2012 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

from a post on LOL
The Yankees attempted to get Felix Hernandez, but the Mariners wouldn’t budge even though the Yankees were offering the farm, according to Heyman, who says New York offered their three top prospects for King Felix

Could have been their Teixeira type of deal

by RangerMad on Jan 13, 2012 7:13 PM CST reply actions  

wonder how they value their prospects in NYY

Felix for Montero, Banuelos, Sanchez?

Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck

btho Iowa State

by MonkeyEpoxy on Jan 13, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

They gonna compete before 2014?

If not, dumb.

A burden should never be something out of your control.
"I'm a Cowboys fan. And I hope they miss the playoffs and get the better draft pick. This team sucks. We're saving ourselves the embarrassment too. That's a major +" by JDT217 on Dec 26, 2011

by benjihana on Jan 13, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

,
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Have gotten e-mails/calls from six team re:Pineda trade, and all are stunned the Yankees got Pineda.

by octoberty on Jan 13, 2012 7:27 PM CST reply actions  

Jack Z trying to make up for mistakes past.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I bet he googled Montero

A burden should never be something out of your control.
"I'm a Cowboys fan. And I hope they miss the playoffs and get the better draft pick. This team sucks. We're saving ourselves the embarrassment too. That's a major +" by JDT217 on Dec 26, 2011

by benjihana on Jan 13, 2012 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Yankees signed Kuroda according to Heyman.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 7:30 PM CST reply actions  

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Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
#yankees sign hiroki kuroda, as @JackCurryYES said. he gets about $10M

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 13, 2012 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

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