Sunday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2012 10:35 AM CST
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Jeff Wilson has a story on Josh Hamilton and the Rangers' pursuit of Prince Fielder, questioning whether the Rangers can afford to sign Fielder and keep Hamilton. In his story, he writes that Hamilton is seeking "length" in his contract, and implies that the seven year deals Jayson Werth and Carl Crawford signed last offseason are the benchmarks for Hamilton. My sense has been that Hamilton is looking for a deal like the 7 year, $126 million deal Werth signed with the Nationals, and if that's the case, Hamilton isn't staying with the Rangers.
And for those who cling to the hope that Hamilton will sign a deal with the Rangers at a discount, well...read this:
Werth was 31 when he signed his deal. That's how old Hamilton will be next off-season when he hopes to sign a contract that will allow him to help the less fortunate and also take care of players who will come after him by signing at market value.
"There's a lot of responsibility that comes with signing the right contract," he said.
If Josh is talking about responsibility to "take care of players" who will be signing deals in the future, he ain't taking a discount.
Evan Grant writes that Hamilton's deadline for signing an extension is the start of spring training -- if a deal isn't done by then, he's going to table talks until after the season, when he's a free agent.
Anthony Andro has a piece on Hamilton, with Hamilton saying his focus is on this season, and talking about the role his father-in-law will have as his "accountability partner."
Ian Kinsler had a Platelet Rich Plasma injection in his ankle a week after the season ended, with the result being that he says he feels 100% for the first time since he rolled his ankle in the spring of 2010. Kinsler also says that he's talked long-term deal with the Rangers, but the team has been pre-occupied with resolving the Yu Darvish situation, and the ball is in their court as far as a contract goes.
Jeff Passan writes that the main sticking point in the negotiations between the Rangers and Darvish is the length of the deal, with Darvish wanting a five year contract and the Rangers offering six years. Passan says the likelihood of a deal not getting done at this point is "minimal."
Mike Adams says he's disappointed he won't get the opportunity to close for Texas, and is disappointed that he didn't pitch better after coming over from San Diego last season, but is looking forward to proving himself in 2012.
Jeff Wilson has notes on Kinsler, Mitch Moreland swinging a bat Monday for the first time since his November surgery, and Mike Adams returning from hernia surgery.
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hurling darvish?
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
by TheDutchOven on Jan 15, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
It appears "sex" doesn't translate.
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7 years for Josh Hamilton is a terrible idea.
The article also mentions that he’s looking forward to playing a full season to show he can. We’d all like to see that Josh.
My best case scenario is that Josh goes out next year and puts up a monster year as a 31 year old and plays a full season.
Then some other team that isn’t the Rangers signs him for massive dollars and massive years and takes the risk of such a talented, but aging, fragile and impatient hitter.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
so fucking terrible
let him walk, anything over a 3-4 year deal is too much
by Baseball North on Jan 15, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
I would pay 5/$80
I think there’s a reasonable chance he’s worth that. But that’s my limit… and that’s not even remotely close to 7 / $126
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
exactly, I don't see any long term deal with Josh not sucking
and I think Josh sees the Werth contract as the floor. Lets hope he does have a 2010 type year and helps bring a title here before he departs for greener pastures a year from now.
by Baseball North on Jan 15, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
I would risk 7/95
But that is about as high as I would go in a 7 year deal if Josh was looking for length.
3-4 better paid years would be more preferable.
by Akalhar on Jan 15, 2012 1:38 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
And the only way he accepts that
Is if a limb falls off.
by Akalhar on Jan 15, 2012 1:39 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I wouldn't rule that out
that is, a limb falling off
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I'd be shocked if a team gave him 7 years
unless a team like LA really wants to make a splash
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Nats need a CF
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
You said
You’d be suprised if someone gave him a 7 yr deal…..the nats will
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
What does that have to do with Josh Hamilton?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Don't you think the Werth deal will scare them off?
Dallas Stars Examiner
used to be under name hinduplaya
no
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
I think the Rangers strategy may be...
Go ahead and test the water and we’ll see what happens. Like they did with C.J. I think much like Prince seeking 10 years… 7 years for Josh would be tough.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Josey's been saying that the Yankees will moneywhip Josh if he becomes FA
Now that I would love to see.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 15, 2012 11:03 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
And then the Yanks will have another aging and injury prone player in their already old lineup. That’ll be sweet.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 15, 2012 11:14 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
They keep saying they want to be under $189M in 2014.
And have gripped their prospects like they’re the most important things on Earth.
It’s hard to believe… but they’ve yet to contradict those statements with actions.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Can't quite get a sense of what competitive advantage this gives them.
As good as Prince Fielder would've looked in a 4XL Rangers' uniform, we all know you win with pitching. -- JJT
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
I wonder if there are unknown expenses that they are incurring that we aren't privy to.
Perhaps personal financial difficulties or something that requires them to take a greater profit.
Dunno.
It doesn’t make any sense on the surface.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Maybe Hank needs the money
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 15, 2012 11:26 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Too much $$$ spent on hookers?
Craig James has a solution for that.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
They could sign Josh and remain under that number by 2014 still
One thing about having a lot of big contracts is a lot of money coming off the books at times.
Only guy they really have to resign in the next few years is Cano and now that they acquired Pineda they won’t necessarily be forced to go after one of the top SPs next winter
by bigsteve on Jan 15, 2012 11:25 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
yeah.
like that Montero kid. they’d never give him up.
oops.
Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011
They got back a guy with one year's service time with TORP potential.
Trading cheap for cheap is still clutching prospects.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
don't the Angels need more outfielders?
if Torii Hunter retires. they could sign Hamilton.
Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011
Fine with me. Meanwhile, Rangers will have back-to-back rookie of the year awards from Leonys and Soler.
As good as Prince Fielder would've looked in a 4XL Rangers' uniform, we all know you win with pitching. -- JJT
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
O/U on "welp"s in this thread = 15.5
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
lol, I was actually going to post that but then I saw this.
Up yours!
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by Ryin A on Jan 15, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Welp
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 15, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, about 35,000
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
The moment a while back that Josh only wanted a "fair" contract felt like the moment he was gone.
As good as Prince Fielder would've looked in a 4XL Rangers' uniform, we all know you win with pitching. -- JJT
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
A year ago when they were negotiating after Werth's deal and he said...
“You have to think of the players coming after you.”
I knew he was going to be gone.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
ive heard interviews where he keeps emphasizing "just give me a fair/reasonable" deal
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 15, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
fair and reasonable
likely means market value which wouldn’t necessarily be a bargain by any means
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jan 15, 2012 11:01 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Werth deal is not mkt value
by jonathan rigby on Jan 15, 2012 11:59 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
That's what the market paid him though
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
i think the Nats are the only ones that would have made that deal
by jonathan rigby on Jan 15, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
That doesn't matter.
It only takes one.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
The Werth deal is the definition of mkt value...
What a willing buyer will pay a willing seller absent duress, fraud… Yada, yada, yada…
by Topgun22 on Jan 15, 2012 1:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
unless the Nats paid a premium for him to play there
by jonathan rigby on Jan 15, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
just as a run down
1.i said the werth deal was not mkt value
2. you gave a wrong definition of the term mkt value
- mkt value- is the price at which an asset would trade in a competitive auction setting
3. My point stands that the werth deal is not mkt value because no one else would pay close to that dollar value….. signifying that a premium was payed by the Nats that not all teams would have to pay.
by jonathan rigby on Jan 15, 2012 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
The point is...
The Nats were a willing buyer and Werth was a willing seller, the contract they agreed to set the market. Whether a 3rd party believes the contract was fair market or not doesn’t matter at all.
That's assuming the market for the two players is exactly the same, which it isn't.
That was the price for 1 Jayson Werth that year, not necessarily the price for 1 Josh Hamilton in 2012-2013. It may well be that his agent uses it as an anchor point for Hamilton’s own price, but saying that deal “set the market” for Hamilton doesn’t make sense.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
yeah
Each years market is unique. Previous contracts may influence the perceived market for players but how much Jayson Werth got paid does not set any precedents for Josh Hamilton two years later.
by bigsteve on Jan 15, 2012 6:11 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
this is a good point
is the mkt value for old Short Stops Jeter’s paycheck?
by jonathan rigby on Jan 15, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
okay, so if everyone exits spring training healthy Yu Darvish will pitch game (?) to star tthe season
i was thinking game 4 so he could pitch against Ichiro on a monday night sell out crowd and make 4 sellouts in a row….
now im thinking he will pitch game 2 of white sox series and game 4 of the seattle series
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 15, 2012 10:45 AM CST reply actions
when yu strikes someone out do you think there will be "yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu"
groans at the ballpark?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 15, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
that'd be swell
so is Colby given for opening day?
by Baseball North on Jan 15, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
it appears that way.... everyone i have talked to says no way Yu pitches opening day
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 15, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think that would be a "groan"
as much as it would be an expression of ecstasy.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
I think Saturday and again Thursday
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
neftali goes monday?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 15, 2012 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Neftali ....
starts in the minors
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
no.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 15, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
if he is healthy
there is a 0% chance of this happening
So if he is healthy
and completely sucks ass during ST you still think he will start in the bigs?
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
agreed
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Welp
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Fucking Nats.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Really makes you question the intellegence in their FO
"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game
Glad the Nats spent that money
Makes it easier to do what needs to be done. Josh is a bad deal long term. Much worse than Fielder. We need to focus on replacing those who need being replaced. Now the Rangers can cut ties without as much backlash.
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
Ran in to Nqps at the Fan yesterday after the Stars game.
He said the ankle feels fine. There’s my update for the day.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 10:51 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Dammit. *Naps
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 10:52 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
They showed him on the jumbotron
And everyone started cheering
by can we get hatcher back on Jan 15, 2012 10:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
why is beltre locked into the clean up spot?
so if we sign prince he wouldnt hit #4? someone explain.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 15, 2012 10:52 AM CST reply actions
Breaking up the lefties for 2012. Not an issue in 2013.
Welp, bye josh. Welp, see ya, josh. Welp.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
oh okay... didnt think about lefty/righty stuff...
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 15, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
going for the over I see
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
by TheDutchOven on Jan 15, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
I would hope Prince bats 4th.
Kins
Face
Hamilton
Prince
Belts
Cruz
Naps
Murph
Elvis
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
josh in CF with murph in LF? i got ya
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 15, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
No
You don’t want Hamilton and Prince back to back.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
why not?
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Because you don't want your two strong lefties next to each other
It makes it real easy for opposing managers to bring in a lefty specialist to face just those two guys.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Waste a late inning specialist on two of the best lefties in the game?
I’ll take those odds.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
well if it doesnt
make sense wash will do it
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
I actually don't know what Wash will do.
He loves Vets in the cleanup spot… and Prince would be a big money FA who would be our best power hitter (and hitter period). That screams cleanup to Wash.
But Wash is also very much in love with righty lefty matchups.
I could see him doing either.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
he'll bat Young 4th
and hit Beltre 6th.
and Napoli 8th.
should be:
Elvis
Hamilton
Kinsler
Fielder
Napoli
Beltre
Young
Cruz
Gentry
Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011
I doubt Young hits cleanup again.
I’ll wager money against it.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
it makes sense to me.
Why are you so enamored with splitting lefties?
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Because you don't want a lefty specialist coming into the game...
…in the late innings in a key situation and being able to face both Hamilton and Fielder.
That’s terrible lineup management.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
So, lefty specialist always wins in this situation you've presented.
Wrong.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
No
The lefty specialist is just more likely to prevail than the average 7th or 8th inning righthanded setup guy.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
Well...
Fielder vs lhp= ops 822
Beltre vs lhp= ops 1075
but you really only get that advantage once a game
where as
fielder vs rhp=1046
beltre vs rhp=836 ops
which you’d get a few times a game
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
But Fielder and Beltre are, 8 times out of 9, going to end up with the same number of ABs
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
but
what im saying is that over the course of a season the 4 hole hitter will see more righties than lefties so breaking up two stud lefties in your lineup is short sided
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
why
b/c you’d prefer to play the game for a one inning scenario and i’d prefer to have my best hitter batting 4th. it been done both ways with success at the major league level. its just preference
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
he should
when he is the size of a rhino
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
More likely to be in higher leverage situations batting 2nd.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Ah,
I thought we were working within the framework of what Washington would conceivably do.
I’ve seen too many people that want to put the best hitter in the 3-hole for some reason, and thought that was what he was suggesting.
by AsDevilsRun on Jan 15, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
Because he should bat second.
But it doesn’t matter in this hypothetical.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I think research has shown
that fourth is actually the most valuable spot, followed by second.
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by Conjunction on Jan 15, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
It depends on what you're looking for.
Neither Fielder nor Beltre is the hitter you want hitting 2nd given the findings that Tango and Co. published.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Hmm
AVG/OBP-focused, then?
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There's a balance, yeah.
2nd called for more of a balance between OBP and power; 4th favored power more.
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Prince...
isnt coming here to bat 5th. whatever reason you present
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
No, he'll come to here to get paid.
He’ll bat where he is told.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
thats naive
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
Fielder is a good enough player to understand the need to break up the lefties
I seriously doubt he’d throw a fit over that
also
being good doesnt equal common sense nor does it trump sense of entitlement
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
I feel like we're so close to the point
where someone argues we shouldn’t pay someone $100M to bat 5th. I can feel it.
Help explain this.
What is here for then?
by lost in space on Jan 15, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
It would only be for one season.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Looks like give up to me
"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game
Lol
Not one of it’s posts, so far in this thread, has made much sense.
I don’t understand how anybody cannot understand not breaking up the lineup when the option presents itself.
It’s not just about the two lefty’s back to back (but its a pretty big part of it). It also provides protection for Beltre, which will make him more dangerous (see better pitches). Fielder really doesn’t need as much protection, BUT still has some with Cruz or Naps behind him.
You lost me here as well
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 15, 2012 11:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
again
more often than not your 4 hole hitter will be seeing a righty. so i’d prefer to have a stud lefty hitting there. regardless of who hits in front of him
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Without having done any actual math...
I think the best way to think of it is this:
Over the course of a long season, flipping a player between batting 4th or 5th is probably exceptionally negligible to overall run production.
So if it is relatively negligible, lean towards the leverage impact because that has significantly more weight in the impact to your W-L record.
If pythag was the ultimate determination of standings… it may make more sense to ignore the leverage situations and bat the two lefties back to back.
But since it’s ultimately W/L, you need to give special priority to late game situations.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
ok so why then
have good teams batted lefty/ lefty in the past without it being a big deal?
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
Why do teams bunt so much?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Phillies run into this problem every postseason
With Utley and Howard.
And get killed by the media.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
so
batting ruth and gehrig back to back was a bad idea?
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
not many loogys back then
by RangerMad on Jan 15, 2012 11:53 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Specialist relievers didn't exist back then
Moron.
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okay twins then
Mauer/Morneau did it well
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by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Because all of the decisions that the Twins make are exemplary?
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 15, 2012 11:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
it worked
they made the playoffs
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by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
That is a terrible, terrible, terrible way to justify that decision.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
its terrible
to justify success
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by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
Wha...
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
We put Napoli at 8th while leaving Face at 4th and still made it to the WS
Doesn’t make that a good decision though.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 15, 2012 12:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
no but
a successful one
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by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
So if the result is good,
every single decision involved in it is good?
by AsDevilsRun on Jan 15, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
You should stick to posting diseased cock photos.
You’re not as good at this baseball thing.
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lol
but the importance you put on breaking up lefties isn’t all that important
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Oh for fucks sake, quite being so obtuse
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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 15, 2012 1:05 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Digressnif stoopid
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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 15, 2012 11:54 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
more often than not your 5 hole hitter would see a righty
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Is there any particular reason
that your 4th hole batter sees righties more often in comparison to others? Because I don’t see it.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 15, 2012 11:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Every hitter 1-9 is more likely to see a righty than a lefty.
This is a bad point.
If the two lefties are back to back then, later in the game when bullpen management comes into play, the manager can bring a lefty in specifically to exploit the lineup construction.
Split the lefties.
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Over the course of the season it would be something like 20 ABs total.
For an entire season.
If Washington were to do this and it work out like AJM fears, Wash would get crucified around here.
It’s one spot in the order. One.
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yes
but its the difference in how many innings being lead off by fielder instead of him hitting with runners on
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by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
Can you even begin to quantify how many times that would actually happen?
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I've got a simulator.
I’m going to go fix lunch, but I’ll program in the numbers using how everyone did last year and see how much of a difference it makes over 1,000,000 games.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
As another example
The Red Sox normally split up AGon and Ortiz with Youk batting cleanup.
Not that that proves anything… but it’s a good example of another stacked lineup breaking up two very strong LHB.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I wish Beltre walked as much as Youk does though.
Now if Napoli was batting cleanup between Josh and Prince…
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
also
if you went lefty/lefty there is a chance they use lefty spec in the 7th so you have two big lefties against a righty in 9th
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
this.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
No
Getting to use their lefty specialist against both of them in the 7th is a bug, not a feature.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
not many teams bring in a lefty specialist in the 9th anyway
most have a closer, and most of those are righties
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
You guys got this figured out.
Well done.
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I don't know that I'm convinced that the actual penalty would be worth the gain.
I’m trying to figure out what kind of model to value the number of PAs that could occur according to their leverage.
I’ve got a simulator… I may mess around with it.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
The leverage is the key thing
Moving Fielder down one spot costs him 18 PAs over the course of a season.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
There's also the consideration of who they replace him with in the clean up spot.
And many fewer times he comes up with men on base because our high OBP guy(s) at the front of the lineup aren’t there when he hits because of a low OBP guy hitting directly in front of him.
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This may have no impact at all...
I’m just thinking out loud.
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Lol
Fucking hell.
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by Brian Thomas on Jan 15, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
but..
it didn’t hamper the twins when they went mauer/mornuea
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by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Putting Prince in the 5 hole is a big mistake.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Hitting Napoli 8th is also a mistake
But it’s something you do. Everyone makes sacrifices. The dropoff from Beltre to FIelder isn’t huge by any means.
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by Conjunction on Jan 15, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
Twins went lefty/lefty
in 3/4 holes
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by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
That's what I hope too.
But probably won’t happen.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'd rather break up the lefties
but I don’t understand why people keep posting lineups with Murphy in LF and Hamilton in CF. Borbon/Gentry have that job as of now. I know that may be the ideal lineup, but I prefer the defensive upgrade in LF and CF with the platoon. No matter what you do with that spot, that lineup would be incredible.
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by NothinG on Jan 15, 2012 11:10 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
I'm fine with the platoon theory.
That was more of an example lineup.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Just bat Prince fifth.
One spot in the order is not worth letting an opposing manager play your lineup easily.
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And if we're being smart about it
I put Napoli fourth because he can tee off on the LOOGY they send in to get Josh, meaning Prince won’t have to face him.
But that won’t happen.
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that would be so awesome.
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Face is a perfect #2 hitter.
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Face at 2nd and Andrus at 9th
Is how I’d like it. Of course, will never happen.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 15, 2012 11:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Because Andrus is #2.
Solution: move Andrus down. Won’t happen though.
by Akalhar on Jan 15, 2012 1:45 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Lineup
I would go with:
Kinsler, 2B
Hamilton, LF
Napoli, C
Fielder, 1B
Beltre, 3B
Young, DH
Cruz, RF
Gentry/Borbon, CF
Andrus, SS
Separate the two left-handed power bats, have a lefty-killer hitting between them to prevent the LOOGY from from just pitching to three batters, and have your best three hitters in the one, two and four spots. Plus get Andrus back to the bottom of the order.
by Darrell McKown on Jan 15, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Does anyone know whether Nathan is guaranteed the closer role?
I know the Rangers are paying him like one, but I just feel like that Adams should be at least allowed to compete for that role in ST. I like how Nathan seemed to recover fairly well from his surgery last season, but I still have some doubts about whether he will actually be good enough to close come this April.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 15, 2012 10:58 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Closer by committee, imo.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
They have explicitly stated Nathan is the closer.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'd let Spring Training play itself out before annointing anyone a closer.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not annointing anyone.
I do not know what they will do.
But their public statements have made it very clear that Nathan is the closer.
Of course they made it clear Moreland is the 1B, so…
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On a roll, you are
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by Brian Thomas on Jan 15, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
if they're paying someone $7m per to pitch the 8th I'll rage.
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"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Eh.... 8th, 9th
doesn’t really bother me. There isn’t much of a distinction, leverage-wise.
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by Conjunction on Jan 15, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
There's my boy!
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
I understand that.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Well, there are other non-closer RPs that get paid that kind of money
But yeah I wouldn’t be particularly happy either.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 15, 2012 11:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
and it's fucking stupid
I should clarify…that I understand they get paid but I don’t want MY team paying them…
And, yes I own the Rangers.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
With the new ownership and the new rules on how much can be spent on various amatuers
I’m having to rethink how bothered I’m going to get about short-term overpays. It will still bother me when the team doesn’t spend well because that money could always have gone to something useful. However, some of the reasons I used to find it particularly aggravating are diminished.
For this year maybe but we (see?) have some bigger fish to extend...
hopefully the talent on the farm will be able to replace having to do things like sign a closer to a multiyear/multimillion dolla deal.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
That makes sense, and I certainly don't relish spending big money on closers or other relievers.
Perhaps it comes down to the fact that for me it was more fun to think about spending that money of a binge of Latin American talent than putting it in a coffee can in the cupboard for Ian’s extension.
Again, I’m not exactly talking about what I think is smart for the team to do so much as I’m saying the mental scripts I use to think about FO decision-making is changing. Your bringing up extensions is pushing that along.
I read like half of your initial point, my bad...I agree with you.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
wasn't your fault...I have a hard time focusing on anything over 2 sentences.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Hmmmm.
You really should work on that. It’s not good to be unable to focus on things after two sentences. I slept with you wife.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
I really should given my line of work.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Well, there is a level of involvement in your work
that probably encourages concentration. I am assuming you care just a wee bit more about your work than some random blog comment.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Adams
If Nathan is the “closer”, then we can hopefully strategically use Adams in high-leverage situations prior to the 9th, and not just hold him out for the 8th inning.
by Darrell McKown on Jan 15, 2012 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
Does Leonys break camp with the big boys?
Any takers?
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 11:05 AM CST reply actions
So
You’d be satisfied with ham, gent, and/or Bourbon on Opening Day?
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, actually.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I love Gent. I'm over Jules at this point.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
The Rangers sure would like it.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 15, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
I love Hamilton.
His Story of Beating Drug Addiction, his his play in the Outfield, Pretty much Everything.
But If he is looking at the Werth Deal as a Starting point, which If I remember most thought it was a bad deal to begin with……
Bye Josh, Thanks for The memories……
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-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
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by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 15, 2012 11:06 AM CST reply actions
It got old
the first 35,000 times they talked about it.
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 15, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Welp
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 15, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Indeed.
Quite welp.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I remember after the HR Derby in the Bronx every fucking
Yanks fan was like “YOURE WATCHING A FUTURE YANKEE” and it pissing me off immensely.
Not anymore. If he were to sign with NY in a platoon/DH role for big bucks, I really don’t think I would be upset.
by dolphinpuncher on Jan 15, 2012 11:13 AM CST via mobile reply actions
How much does fan appeal/marketing value play into a decision to extend Josh?
They certainly didn’t have much rationality when it came to Michael Young’s deal. I’m not advocating for this, but it has to play some sort of role, right?
Different time.
Winning is the best marketing tool there is.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Seriously though
If Josh is indeed using Werth’s contract with the Nats as his reference to a “fair and reasonable deal,” he really should look up the words fair abd reasonable in the dictionary. That deal is one of the worst contract in the history of the game. Everyobe knew from the beginning that there was no way he lives up to that deal.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 15, 2012 11:21 AM CST via mobile reply actions
So Josh uses one of the worst contracts in MLB history as his benchmark for fair...
CJ needs to fire his agent. Where was his damn Zito money?
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He didn't even get A.J. Burnett money!
Actually… I think Marlins may have offered close to Zito money.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Allegedly it was $100+
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I don't think so.
I think it was just one more year at ~15-16.. that’s what I took from an interview he did with MLBN.
I have pickles in my ears, Chuck.
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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 15, 2012 11:41 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
I put peaches in my panties and dance around, Chuck.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
That's not a pickle, Rod.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
someone want to start a NFL OT thread?
by RangerMad on Jan 15, 2012 11:46 AM CST via Android app reply actions
well, it was nice having you around josh
can’t wait to see which team is willing to go Werth on him…
Just reading though the comments today,
it sounds like everyone is feeling pretty positive about signing Fielder.
What’s the consensus we sign about 60% now?
hahah, still a long shot with Fielder though
so if Fielder signs elsewhere, are the Rangers more likely to give Josh a huge extension?
by Baseball North on Jan 15, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think so.
Though I do expect them to have at least one of Hamilton, Fielder & Napoli after 2012.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'd go Naps or Fielder if given the choice
any other big free agent hitters hitting the market next year?
by Baseball North on Jan 15, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
I'll go 20%
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
33 1/3
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2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
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45
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
No, we just forget a meaningless joke
on old record player speeds.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
I think I'd lay the odds around there
I don’t think there is a very good shot, but basically the Beltre signing made me realize that this team has more $$ than I appreciate, so while my instinct is no, I think there is aobut a 20-25% chance that they just have an insane amount of cash they’re willing to use on him.
I wouldn’t bet on a signing unless I were getting 5-1 though.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I suppose reading where he should bat in our lineup
makes me think the board is quite confident we sign him.
10% isn’t very appealing though.
by lost in space on Jan 15, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
.
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Brian Cashman told me last night that Michael Pineda better improve the change-up & develop into a #1 starter or he will have made a mistake
Because he gave up a DH in return?
Seriously Montero has something like 18 games under his belt. Chris Davis was awesome for a whole month back in 08.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 15, 2012 12:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well, there were rumblings that Cashman liked Noesi more than most,
but even then, this sounds to me like Cashman saying things to salve the Mariners’ wounded trigger finger.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Yeah, this is spin
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Yu Darvish & the Rangers appear to be close enough in negotiations now to get a deal done but it probably won’t get done until Tues deadline
This is why Bowden gets the big bucks.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
thanks, JB.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
is the deadline Tuesday or Wednesday?
for some reason I was thinking Wednesday
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Stop the press!
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I need someone to explain to me how this happens in 2012.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Alcohol?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Prince Fielder + buffet
"When I came off the mound the hairs were standing up on my arm. I know there's not much"
/Holland.
by BEW on Jan 15, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Two options
a) it was a dare
b) The T-Rex it was transporting got loose and killed everyone on board
by Jobu. on Jan 15, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Vampires.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Iceberg
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
who's driving the boat?
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Dale Doback
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 15, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry about that.
And y’all kept saying Garoons were mythical creatures…
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
I don't even know what I'm looking at.
by lost in space on Jan 15, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
Overturned Yacht/Passenger ship.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
a capsized ship.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
A cruise ship that ran aground, tipped over, and had to be evacuated.
3 dead so far, 69 missing.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
you guys hear the ship's captain jumped out before many of the passengers
and he might be facing manslaughter charges
by Baseball North on Jan 15, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Oh wow.
He must have missed class the day they told him he has to stay with the ship.
by lost in space on Jan 15, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
maybe he thought that was just an 'honour' thing
and not really enforced
by Baseball North on Jan 15, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
Seemingly, to the untrained eye, I can fully understand how you got that impression.
What looked like jumping out, was actually a safety precaution! When he jumped ship, he wasn’t leaving anyone behind! Oh, quite the contrary, he risked his life making sure that exit was clear, and that everyone could follow his lead!
he left 6 hours before some of the passengers got off
he’s actually in custody
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
you don't pay attention to news headlines
do yu?
by RangerMad on Jan 15, 2012 12:04 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I tend to stay in better moosd when I don't pay attention to the news.
It’s a stupid concept, but it helps.
by lost in space on Jan 15, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
Louis CK does not approve of this post.
by Black Francis on Jan 15, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You get a rec for a really obscure reference that made me feel cool for 3 seconds because I got it.
"It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard."
- Nolan Ryan
It's a ruse
Obviously photoshopped
by can we get hatcher back on Jan 15, 2012 12:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
There were hookers on board
and Craig James hijacked it.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
by Atticus F on Jan 15, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
4/10
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 15, 2012 5:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Forrest Gump saw Lieutenant Dan
(That’s my boat)
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
by txranger7 on Jan 15, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like there would be some great snorkling right there
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
That was my first thought too.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
End of the world is nigh
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
by TheDutchOven on Jan 15, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Real flesh and blood extraterrestrials!
"It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard."
- Nolan Ryan
Because it's 2012, duh
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Bowden continues with the hard-hitting reports!
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Rangers meeting with Fielder @ the Four Seasons Hotel went extremely well & they can afford to sign both Darvish and Fielder if they choose
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
can afford to sign both IF they choose?
wow, that comment isn’t vague and pointless at all
by Baseball North on Jan 15, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
every time he tweets it should be accompanied by a bolt of lightning.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
was he the one that did that crazy piece (don't remember what it was about) about something on that one channel?
you know?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
that sounds familiar...
"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game
So we're not signing them both because we choose not to?
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 15, 2012 12:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know of any other way we don't.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Fucking put this guy on the payroll
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Blah
Arteta is meh but man was he missed today. And of course, no fullbacks. And Arshavin being dead.
MORE OXLADE, PLEASE
gotta admit
that was some pretty sexy football SCFC was playing. i don’t know how in the world Sinclair was dribbling past his coverage.. Graham could have easily made it 4-2 if he had fired on target instead of dropping it in the middle – he had already beaten Miquel(?). There was another time where someone, Dyer or Graham, had an unmarked runner behind him advancing on net, onside, and if they had just flicked it back to them, they would have gotten to Szczeny with a whole lot of real estate to fire
.
I’ve played in this league for six years. They know what I’m worth; I know what I’m worth. It’s about getting a number that works for both sides. If we don’t, it won’t happen. But I want that to happen.
Me too, Ian. Me too.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
I think the same thing about a Kinsler extension as I did the last time we talked about it...
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
If it were me and Kate Upton,
the number would be 69.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
That pic is going to get deleted.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
To bad for the ones that didn't get to see it
"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game
was the hardest thing I've ever had to do....
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Never refreshing.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
absolutely
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Can someone provide a link
to the pictor?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 15, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
Still haven't refreshed
but did save the pic.
Righteous tit.
"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH
by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 15, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Same here.
That was a definite keeper.
by lost in space on Jan 15, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
If ever there was a candidate for an extension at this stage in a career
it is Ian Kinsler. He’s the best player on the team. He plays a premium position. He is statistically extremely valuable in non-glamour stats, so he won’t demand a payday comparable to lesser guys who do well at one or two triple crown stats.
I am baffled by people being hesitant. I’m not a guy who likes to lock up guys for many years of their thirties, but assuming he’d consider the types of numbers we’ve talked about, it seems obvious…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
he will replace MY as fotf
by RangerMad on Jan 15, 2012 1:12 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Agreed.
But then, I’ve been more generally baffled by many Rangers fans’ reactions to Kinsler.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
when MY leaves
Ian will have everyone doing the popup bat flip
by RangerMad on Jan 15, 2012 1:26 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
speaking of postseason
Molina took away the Ranger’s running game. Without him I think the Rangers win the series
by RangerMad on Jan 15, 2012 1:43 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Gio got extended by the Nats too.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Colon to the A's
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
.
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
How did Rangers mtg w/ Fielder become public?The confidential mtg @ Four Seasons was coincindentally where Joel Hanrahan was getting married
That's kind of interesting.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
“Joel, dude, can you guys keep it down?”
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 15, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
Maury reporting that Gio has signed with the Nats.
Through ’16.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 15, 2012 2:05 PM CST reply actions
Hamilton
5/100? More AAV for less years.
by Topgun22 on Jan 15, 2012 2:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Settled
Evan_P_Grant Evan Grant
Ron Washington tells fans he intends for Colby Lewis to be the Opening Day starter – barring unforeseen. It will not be Darvish.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
barring the trade of Colby for some prospects
and the signing of Oswalt to be the VOTS.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
That was obvious.
Not sure why anyone thought it would go any differently.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I don't think anyone did think that.
But this is confirmation of the obvious speculation.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
We had several conversations on here about how Colby wouldn't get the opening day start.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Really?
I don’t remember that. Or I purged those memories for being ridiculous. I thought we were all in agreement.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
No way.
After his year last year there were several people saying that Colby shouldn’t get the start. Most people said it should be Darvish, but there were a few Dutchbackers out there.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
He's trolling and saying he starts the year in RR
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
by TheDutchOven on Jan 15, 2012 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
Get out
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 15, 2012 5:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe it's the way the Rangers have lit him up in the past,
or maybe it’s the injuries and subpar Philly impression…
I’m just not convinced Oswalt is an upgrade in the roto at all.
When healthy he's definitely an upgrade at the back of the rotation
by Black Francis on Jan 15, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Is he? Who is he an upgrade over?
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
by Bface on Jan 15, 2012 3:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Having Feliz in the rotation isn't just about this year
He isn’t getting replaced. So Oswalt over Harrisson or Holland? No thanks, and that’s not even taking cost into account
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
by Bface on Jan 15, 2012 3:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If healthy I think he's an upgrade over either one.
by Black Francis on Jan 15, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
Hah..yeah I'm gonna disagree
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
by Bface on Jan 15, 2012 3:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't respond correctly.
I think he’d be an upgrade over Feliz or Harrison. Not Holland. At best he may be as good as Holland, though. Oswalt has bounced back from injuries before and has had some real good seasons in doing so.
by Black Francis on Jan 15, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
I think you're seriously underestimating how good Harrison was last year.
And how many games Oswalt as missed, and why.
Back issues scare the shit out of me
Oswalt is also older now.
Back death is not easy to overcome. Matt Harrison outperformed him last year and will likely do so for the rest of time.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
they also don't have the luxury
of nursing him along. If he shows or gives any sign that he is not up to starting, then I wouldn’t be surprised if they trade him.
Is Feliz playing winter ball?
by RangerMad on Jan 15, 2012 3:39 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
That is so stupid
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
by Bface on Jan 15, 2012 3:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oswalt is clearly better than Lewis
probably Feliz in 2012, decent chance of bettering Ogando, and will likely surpass one of Harry, Holland and Yu. He’d be, when reliability is factored in, the 3rd best pitcher. Maybe not ceiling wise. But ceiling isn’t the only thing he counts.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
This is all assuming health.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
of course
though an unhealthy Oswalt is still possibly a better pitcher than Lewis…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Healthy Lewis > Unhealthy Oswalt
Of course… no guarantees Lewis is healthy either.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Mike will recover 100%
and be better than ever.
Dammit, the guy deserves to close.
~San Antonio Spurs~ ~San Diego State Aztecs~ rockin' my world!
Yes, I know
Life is unfair. Blah blah blah.
~San Antonio Spurs~ ~San Diego State Aztecs~ currently rockin' my world!
EG says
Harry would be odd man out if they sign Yu and Oswalt
by RangerMad on Jan 15, 2012 3:01 PM CST via Android app reply actions
EG is silly.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
Sports Producer, WFAA-TV/WFAA.com. Lover of feedback.
Especially when he eats blue stuff.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
They must be really sold on Feliz
I wish I had that much confidence in him.
by Black Francis on Jan 15, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
LindsayGuentzel Lindsay Guentzel
Oswalt Update: Source says Twins are looking to offer around $17 million for 2 years. Rangers for sure still in, Red Sox possible.
I like Steak.
Who is this?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Minnesota's version of Emily Jones
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
And yah she's kind like Emily Jones
She doesn’t really have news breaking history but she’s fairly well connected in the Minneapolis market.
If the Rangers sign Oswalt
do we get to talk about 6-man rotations some more? That was awesome.
The lurker/poster formerly known as "ncrangerfan." I don't live in Hickory anymore....
Who else is thinking Hamilton/Cespedes platoon?
He blamed a lack of playing time on the poor performance, saying it had been 10 months since he had played at night.
It would be perfect if he could hit mash lefties during the day.
The Cuban Anti-Hamilton.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
So, I wonder why Rangers haven't acquired Thornton, yet
My best guess is we’re waiting to see if we can afford the salary, i.e., if we sign Yu + Prince or Oswalt, etc, we probably wouldn’t have room to take on another $6M for a RP.
That being said, you’d have to think there are prospects we could throw at Chi to eat next season’s salary.
He’s too good of a fit for us. We need a LHP, he’s dominant, and is only under contract for 2 years.
They probably haven't seen he's left handed yet.
As soon as they find out though… ;)
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Haha, I've made way more embarrassing mistakes than that on this blog
but that one is really sticking with me
Love Josh, but fuck that noise.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Who are these guys in the CW doing Rangers stuff?
I flip by real quick and in a span of 90 seconds I see/hear the following:
“Can Yu Darvish debunk the ‘myth’ about Asian pitchers?”
Fielder rabble rabble
Highlight of Feliz blowing game 6 with Cruz trying to catch the flyball
Discussion of Feliz to the rotation
“Feliz is a lazy player, and he’s working with a lazy player in Pedro Martinez”
What the fuck is going on with this station? Are they intentionally trying to be inflammatory?
Defending Big D Check it out
Twitter
"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
Who knows.
I’m watching Doocy right now.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Its like reading AJM talk about football on twitter
makes no sense
You gotta get up mighty muthafuckin' early in the mornin' to fuck with me - Wash
by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 15, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
If Pedro was lazy
I sure hope he’s teaching that to Feliz.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Neffy doesn't have anything left to learn
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 16, 2012 7:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I hope Feliz right now is getting a full primer on the ins and outs of Don Zimmer body slamming
Anything Feliz can do Pedro did better, anything that Pedro did I want Feliz to do.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
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