Monday Morning Rangers Update
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 16, 2012 8:02 AM CST
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It's Yu Darvish deadline week, everyone!
The DMN has a piece on Ron Washington saying he intends for Colby Lewis to be his Opening Day starter, not Darvish. The articles goes on to detail what the rotation might look like with Darvish, Roy Oswalt, or even both. If it happened to be both, the DMN thinks Matt Harrison could be the odd man out.
Richard Durrett writes about Neftali Feliz preparing for his transition from closer to starter. The Rangers set up a meeting between Feliz and Pedro Martinez which sounds just dandy. The two will meet again before Spring Training and Pedro is going to work with Feliz on his changeup. Please let this work out like that time Nolan Ryan met up with some tall fireballer named Randy Johnson.
In other Feliz news, Jeff Wilson has some quotes from Feliz about his side of the bottom of the 10th inning of Game 6 story.
Todd Wills has a few notes about Alexi Ogando's offseason plans, Feliz's transition, and Fan Fest attracting 12,000 fans this year.
Finally, if you were looking forward to Joel Zumaya restarting his career in Texas, Gerry Fraley delivers the bad news that Zumaya chose the Minnesota Twins -- and a guaranteed major league contract -- instead of Texas.
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Ryan Spilborghs anyone?
The Rangers and Indians are looking at free agent outfielder Ryan Spilborghs, tweets Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. The 32-year-old outfielder was non-tendered by the Rockies about a month ago.
Spilborghs scuffled to a .210/.283/.305 line in 2011. Prior to that, his career line was a healthy .281/.354/.440. A right-handed hitter, Spilborghs has faced lefties in 40% of his career plate appearances and has done well against them. He’s capable of playing all three outfield positions.
not sure about that last sentence
I've always thought he'd be a good fit on our roster
But goddamn, his home/road splits are as Coors Field as it gets.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
70 career wRC+ on the road.
Yeah, nevermind.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
No. He sucks.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I got unnaturally excited about the thought of Feliz working with Pedro
man if anything rubs off on Feliz from that guy, we could have one heck of a pitcher.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
Feliz + Pedro's changeup
I think I came just by imagining that.
Need to go change my pants…
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 16, 2012 8:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I read that as
“one hell of a pecker.”
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pedro had some good years back in the day
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 16, 2012 8:21 AM CST via mobile reply actions
That is quite an astute comment
"A lot of people may not know this, but I happen to be quite famous." - Sam "MayDay" Malone
Why, thank you!
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 16, 2012 9:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Meh.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I mean, I guess.
If you like “possibly the best season ever from a pitcher.”
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I'd go as far as saying probably the best season ever from a pitcher.
The only one I can think of that is up there is Bob Gibson’s season when he had ~1.12 ERA.
Anybody else care to throw in some seasons that are probably in the discussion?
I went to B-R and searched for bWARs over 10 for pitchers since WWII
(Since I think pre-WWII counting stats for pitchers are harder to lump in with today’s game).
12 seasons. Pedro’s was #11, and Gibson and Koufax were the only guys with two each.
The best season, in terms of bWAR, was Steve Carlton’s 1972.
Wilbur Wood, Gaylord Perry, Roger Clemens, and Bob Feller also made the list.
And some guy named Dick Ellsworth from 1963.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 16, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
Which brings up an impossible to answer question...
How much credit should you give the earlier guys for pitching more innings? Carlton amassed 12.2 bWAR in 1972 in 41 starts (346 innings). Pedro amassed 10.1 bWAR in 29 starts (217 innings).
that is a problem with WAR
it is a counting stat and not a rate stat. Why do sabreheads put so much value in it when they normally prefer rate stats?
It's both.
It’s how much playing time you accumulated while playing at a rate better than replacement.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Really?
If you’re going to make this argument, at least call for setting a minimum IP.
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Sabergoats worth the moniker put value in WAR in accordance with its value.
Small, ugly trolls, lurking under bridges, may often jump out and try to convince crossing goats that WAR is a bridle used to lead them around by the nose.
Wise sabergoats know enough to butt the trolls off their bridges without so much as a fare-thee-well.
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And yet his team didn't make the playoffs in either 99 or 00.
That, and soft underbellies.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Stop interfering with the bit.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Welp
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 16, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
And Fielder.
Joint press conference baby.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 16, 2012 8:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
would be awesome to compare YU/Prince vs CJ/Pujols for the next decade
by Baseball North on Jan 16, 2012 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
I suspect the Angels will feel the same way about Pujols in five years as well.
He’ll only be owed like another 125 million or so at that point.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Only
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 16, 2012 9:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe the Angels think that they can just trade him at that time
Like when they traded for Vernon Wells.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
learn to swim
See you down in Arizona bay
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by jonas m. on Jan 16, 2012 10:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nah,
I want to beat them on the field.
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
This
If you were getting pre-arm injury Zumaya, that would be one thing but I wonder just how much longer he’s going to be around with all of the arm issues he has had.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 16, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe they discovered
how to coordinate and aim dismembered appendages flying at 100 mph?
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
"We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 16, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
So... you're in favor of putting Nolan Ryan in the rotation right now over Clayton Kershaw?
Nolan has MUCH more experience than a 23 year old like Clayton.
Or does current talent level depending on age come into play as well?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
that was a faint attempt at sarcasm on my part
by Baseball North on Jan 16, 2012 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
Oh... well then carry on. :)
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
We need sarcasm...
because___ signing Oswalt makes no sense. Unless he signs a one-year cheap-o deal.
"It's incredibly hard." - Ronald Washington
if we can get oswalt for a cheap deal
id take that and let feliz simmer in RR til he is ready to be served to the masses
To me that still doesn't make much sense
No matter how cheap he’s willing to sign, we just don’t need another SP, and one with a wreck of a back at that. It’s already a handful to figure out what to with our rotation as it is assuming we sign Yu.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 16, 2012 9:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
right, as I'd not dislodge either Ogando or Harrison for someone other than a stud
i.e. Kershaw or Tiny Tim (very unlikely, but more believable since the Wells trade-rape)
by Baseball North on Jan 16, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
I love Harry of course
but you can’t simply think of this as Oswalt vs him. if RO were to sign then presumably Harry gets traded for someone who will potentially help in the future. and when RO is gone next year Perez or NeRa will hopefully be ready to take his (and thus Harry’s ) place
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
by JBImaknee on Jan 16, 2012 10:28 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
right, you can get a piece or two back by trading Harrison
and then sign Oswalt to fill his spot. But we know Oswalt is what he is. Harrison on the other hand still has a chance to be a much better pitcher next year than Oswalt. So you’re giving up the chance to have one of your own become a front line starter (not sure if Harrison has ace potential but still)
by Baseball North on Jan 16, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
maybe but is it worth more than
1 yr of Oswalt, 2+ years of Perez/Ramirez, AND the possible return we could get in this market. I’d say it’s pretty close depending on the return.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
What kind of return could you get for
Hamilton, Harrison and Moreland after the Rangers sign Prince (I know they aren’t trading Hamilton).
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
by TheDutchOven on Jan 16, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
what you expecting return wise?
prospects or immediate help (i.e. 1B/CF)
by Baseball North on Jan 16, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
why not
if you had the depth the Rangers will have. It really depends on the return. I’d think if they signed Oswalt, they’d have to trade somebody unless Oswalt became a bullpen arm, which I’m good with.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
No one ever gets my sarcasm, either.
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 16, 2012 9:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
lol, written sarcasm is always trickier to detect
by Baseball North on Jan 16, 2012 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
But at this point I would think that my sarcasm would be easier to detect, since I’m being sarcastic so often.
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 16, 2012 10:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
spilborghs?..if they have that interest
what does that mean for the martin/gentry/borbon trifecta for center?
nothing
just possibly more OF insurance with Cruz and Hamilton guaranteed to be on the shelf at some point, and could be a RH bat off the bench vs a lefty. Not a bad guy to have.
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haha this is the best thing ever.
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by shock00 on Jan 16, 2012 9:39 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Heh.
I like Black Francis’s reply to hurlerhurley at the bottom of this thread.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
trade Hamilton and Koji to Baltimore
For Adam jones and Weiters. Who says no? Seriously I want Jones on our team and don’t want to let Josh walk for nothing. Who could we get from them with this package in addition to Jones?
by das06h on Jan 16, 2012 9:50 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Don't underestimate Dan Duquette.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
If the O's suddenly fired Duqutte and hired Reagins as thier GM, it might be possible.
But no. Not gonna happen.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 16, 2012 9:56 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sigh. Baltimore says no. And Adam Jones isn't much of a player.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
He'd easily be the teams best CF in 2012.
He’s extremely good with the glove. His declining OBP’s are very concerning though. I’d like him on this team but not at the price it would likely take.
Look up his UZR...uh, no thanks
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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 16, 2012 10:07 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
His performance has never lived up to the reputation in the field.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Even without going by UZR: his tools just haven't seemed to translate out there.
Usual caveat that I’m not a scout by any stretch, etc., etc. , but I was disappointed with what I saw from him at the ballpark. I feel like the tools are there… I’d be interested to know if Parks or Cole have a take on him.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Why would Baltimore want an aging injury prone star, and a middle reliever
Over a good young OF and a young star catcher?
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 16, 2012 10:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Decent young OF*
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 16, 2012 10:04 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
You made that part extremely clear
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 16, 2012 10:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
There needs to be a front page post about Adam Jones
and how everyone thinks he’s a lot better than he is
That's a terribad trade
Adam Jones isn’t that great. Wieters doesn’t have as big an impact here because of the presence of Napoli.
Also, Baltimore wouldn’t do that. They’re not looking to win now.
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by Conjunction on Jan 16, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Dez arrested in a Miami bar?
Unconfirmed as of yet.
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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 16, 2012 10:16 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Anyone listen to Ben & Skin's segment on Hamilton?
Deetz?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 16, 2012 10:19 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Can't..at work
recap please!
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Jan 16, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Just turned it on, missed it
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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 16, 2012 10:22 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
they are talking about him now.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 16, 2012 10:39 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
They're going to the phones now...I'm out.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 16, 2012 10:43 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
lol, not expecting many bright folks to call in?
by Baseball North on Jan 16, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
No.
AJM should call in…he was having a friendly back and forth w/ Ben last night via Twitter re: trading Hamilton.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 16, 2012 10:46 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
They are just stirring the pot
asking what the fans would think if they traded Hamilton now before the 2012 season started.
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 16, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
and there's absolutely no way he is traded before the end of 2012
only logical question is whether or not he’s resigned
by Baseball North on Jan 16, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
For sure
Just relaying what they were talking about
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 16, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
of course, that's what I mean
they’re just saying ramdon shit to get the callers all jumpy
by Baseball North on Jan 16, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Sounds like bs.
Since nobody else is confirming it.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 16, 2012 11:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I hope not
I’d rather have Moreland and Napoli/Young than either of those or any other Brad Hawpe types. Give me the clear upgrade in Fielder and I’ll be happy.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
i actually think we will..and let play out and go
but..if we dont..i think they will go with moreland..those other 2 arent an upgrade over him really
I think we roll with what we have.
Moreland, if healthy, will get most of the time with MY/Napoli also getting some time in.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
I think it's interesting that nobody thinks Kotchman or Pena would be upgrades
Definitely not a given but they put up better numbers than Moreland did. Not exactly elite numbers but appreciably better.
Hawpe I don’t really consider in the same conversation as the other two. He’s just seems like a warm body if Mitch takes a serious step back or gets injured.
pena has been terrible the last few years
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 16, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Do you think Mitch can be an average 1B if healthy?
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Interesting.
The offseason has gone on long enough now that I’m able to say his name without thinking of him flailing at a low pitch, but even then I don’t think I’m done with him.
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
You just can't quit Mitch Moreland, Pras.
I wish you knew how to quit him.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Last season was frustrating to watch but
you also need to take the injury into account.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 16, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
well..when mitch came up in 2010 was pretty good..then solid first half till
wrist injury..about 134 games..20hrs..if he stays healthy..it could be better
Yeah. I think a lot of it is
can we find that Moreland that can launch dongs to the roof of the HR porch? Was his injury the root of last year’s lack of production? or is he Chris Davis part deux? Right now, I think the FO would rather see what they have in Moreland than go with a more known quality that might be better now, but doesn’t have the potential ceiling that Moreland has.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
I'd rather have Moreland than Kotchman
and while Pena would be nice, at his price, I’d probably rather stick with Moreland. Prince is the only FA upgrade I’m interested in. Trading for one is a different story.
Depends on cost,
but I think I’m in this boat for now.
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
I think Pena ends up with the Yankees....
Apparently, they are looking at him at DH
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 16, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
Of course....I don't know that $1 or $2 mil is going to get Pena.....
The Yankees only have $1-2 million to spend on a DH
Craig Calcaterra
Jan 16, 2012, 9:53 AM EST
If the Yankees truly are thinking about Johnny Damon — or Carlos Pena or anyone else — to be their DH then they’re going to have to get him on the cheap. That’s because Jon Heyman reports that the Yankees only have $1-$2 million to spend on a DH.
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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 16, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Hahah,
I had this thought, too. It’s silly to waste a roster spot on a backup, defense-first 1B (exaggerating), but that would be fun. Run out Gentry and Leonidas in the OF, sub in Kotchman. All your BIP are belong to us.
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
I think Fielder is the only alternative to what will likely be our 1B plan.
There will be days when the question will be would you rather have Napoli or MY in the lineup? or Carlos Pena/Derrek Lee/Brad Hawpe/etc.?
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Eh,
It’d be nice to have another (RHB) option in there. I guess Young could get better at defending first, but…
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
I agree wholeheartedly.
I would rather not see Hands of Stone grace the 1B environs ever again. But realistically, we are paying him a great deal of money, and his gritty veteran-ness will likely require his insertion into the field at times. And as much as I cringe ever time Torrealba is penciled into the lineup as Catcher, Napoli will likely need some of those half days off as either DH or 1B.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
HOS
I like it
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by TheDutchOven on Jan 16, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Where's Erubiel Durazo these days?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Or Ben Broussard?
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He is going to get blowed up
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Vicente Padilla has agreed with Red Sox
TAKE THAT, YANKEES!!!
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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 16, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
WARNING SHOT!
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
To the leg!
"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH
by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 16, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
An org with clubhouse problems is signing...Padilla?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Good thing they don't have to worry about drinking problems with this new signing...
…oh.
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
Pretty sure Padilla started calling them non-stop
when he heard about rally beers. Wonder if Padilla is playing for an “all-you-can-drink” contract.
Beer and fried chicken in the clubhouse.
Padilla wanted every bit of that.
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Don't forget the video games
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 16, 2012 11:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Can't say I blame him
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Is he a better teammate while sober or drunk?
They need to figure that out.
by lost in space on Jan 16, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
How much will he drink in the clubhouse during games?
Oh, wait….Bobby V’s gonna lay down the law and stop all of that….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 16, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
I think I have less of an issue with that
than with what some corporate executives make.
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
You shouldn't have a problem with either
"A lot of people may not know this, but I happen to be quite famous." - Sam "MayDay" Malone
HSO while I was at lunch
Norm thinking Harry should go to pen if Oswalt is signed.
Ben (or Skin) not willing to sign Josh for 7 years.
This feels like a Nolan move.
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
It feels like a traditionalist's baseball move.
Which is probably a combination of Nolan / Wash / Maddux
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
What if it costs $10M?
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
Then I pray the Rangers have examined his medicals VERY closely.
It comes down to health. A healthy Oswalt is probably a lock for 3 WAR.
But I have so little confidence in that with a back issue… and we have so many cheap young starting pitchers that I want to make a picture of juggling limes guy with starting pitchers.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yep.
I just don’t get it. I know it’s been joked before that JD has an almost pathological need to acquire pitching, but this is getting crazy.
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
i imagine he knows what he's doing
if oswalt is a bargain then sign him and begin to corner the market on sp"s. i can’t imagine it’d be hard to deal any of these guys , heck he may even have a deal or two in his pocket waiting only for Yu
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
by JBImaknee on Jan 16, 2012 12:30 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Harry has no business in the pen.
If you want Oswalt’s veteran grit… trade somebody.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
one of Norm's reasons for Harry to the pen
is Harry’s GB%. I prefer guys in the bullpen that can strikeout hitters.
Why do we want to consider...
A) Sending someone who threw 185 innings with 14 wins and and a 3.39 ERA to the bullpen.
B) Signing some old fuck with a bad back.
Neither of these two things make any sense to me.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
BTW... Ben & Skin reporting their sources say Josh wants more than what Werth got.
They see 7 / $126M as the starting point.
And they have some sources… they do usually get some good inside info.
On Friday they were saying between Fielder and Josh… they’d take Josh in a close race.
Today, now knowing that Josh wants 7 years for $18+ per year… they want Fielder.
Very insistent that the Fielder decision has nothing to do with Darvish… they can have both.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
The only thing the Darvish signing has to do with Prince
is coordinating the joint press conference.
"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH
by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 16, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
and bye bye Josh
I really knew this all along but seeing this info just seals it. Darvish and Fielder…do it.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
I've been against signing Fielder for 7 years,
but I’d much, much, much, much, much rather have him for 7 years than Josh.
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by Prashanth Francis on Jan 16, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed...
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 16, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Yes. Yes to both.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Don't think you would get any aurgument around here.
B&S wouldn’t do that even when you take into account the intangibles/other aspects to what Josh brings.
Which brings up the question: How much is the goodwill, character and ‘other’ type of stuff worth?
Ben just tweeted that someone sent him my November write-up on why I don't want Josh
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 16, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
He referenced you by name
And then summarized the article on the air
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 16, 2012 12:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
In my 13 months on this site.
It’s one of the best things I’ve read. It was thorough and interesting.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
It brought me around
Mostly his swinging %
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 16, 2012 4:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If Hamilton really thinks he can get that from the Rangers, he's delusional.
If that’s what his agent’s telling the club, he’s basically telling them goodbye.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
It also makes his comments seem disingenuous
He says we only need to offer him a “reasonable” contract, and then shows that he is expecting an unprecedented contract for an outfielder of his age.
waste
just trade him
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
by JBImaknee on Jan 16, 2012 12:10 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I'd rather just go all in with Darvish and Fielder, go for it for one more year, and then collect the picks once he leaves.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
OT - watched a few minutes of Baseball Wives
What the hell IS that shit? Why would a player let his wife be on that show if all she’s going to do is be a catty bitch?
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 16, 2012 12:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Which player's wives?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 16, 2012 12:13 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I was trying to figure that out while clawing at my eyes
I think they live in Scottsdale.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 16, 2012 1:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
wives and exs
Anna Benson
Ericka Williams wife of 3B Matt Williams
Chantel Kendall ex wive of Jason
Tanya Grace ex of Mark Grace
Brooke Villone with of Ron
Jordana Lenz ex gf of Nyjer Morgan
or a bunch of skanks.
Sounds bunk
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 16, 2012 1:24 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
ohhhh. Thought they were all current wives
Not exes. And no wonder a bunch are exes since they’re really quite bitchy.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 16, 2012 4:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Isn't that the one with Anna Benson?
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 16, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
I think so
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Good grief....
Reality and Anna Benson should never be used in the same sentence….
I really hate reality shows….especially the “wives” or “housewives” shows….can’t stand even a second of them.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 16, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
Kris Benson is still married to that brush-whore?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 16, 2012 12:15 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
None of them reminded me of Anna Benson
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 16, 2012 1:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Fielder
Wherever he’s signing it happens this week.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 16, 2012 12:24 PM CST reply actions
Unless its next week.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
This article will make Pras so mad.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dreaming-about-prince-in-texas/
First of all, Fielder would be leaving a relatively neutral park in Milwaukee to play in the most home run friendly baseball stadium in Major League Baseball in Arlington. Miller Park had the 11th-highest home run factor in the league last season at 1.062, while Rangers Ballpark in Arlington had a home run factor of 1.500. Fielder has five-consecutive seasons of 30+ home runs and a career .257 ISO. Theoretically, he would perform even better with the Rangers in their bandbox of a stadium.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
good old fangraphs
where any claim can find some supporting stats!!!
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
by JBImaknee on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
x
jonmorosi Jon Morosi
#Athletics acquire Seth Smith from #Rockies for RHP Guillermo Moscoso and LHP Josh Outman.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
boring and not very good?
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
by JBImaknee on Jan 16, 2012 1:24 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
arb salaries
This guy seems to be doing a pretty good job of projecting ard salaries.
Rangers (9)
•Mike Napoli – $9.2MM
•Nelson Cruz – $5.7MM
•Mike Adams – $4.5MM
•David Murphy – $3.2MM
•Elvis Andrus – $2.9MM
•Matt Harrison – $2.9MM
•Mark Lowe – $1.6MM
Any of these figures surprising to anyone?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 16, 2012 4:12 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
$26.4M too much for a bullpen?
Nathan: $7M
Adams: $4.5M
Uhera: $4M
Feldman: $6.5M
Ogando: $0.5M
Yoshii: $1M
Harry: $2.9M
Why do you have Harrison in the bullpen?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
lastest scuttlebutt is that he goes to the pen if Oswalt is signed
Gonzalez made $6M last year. The Rangers might bring him back at $3M. The 2012 bullpen will cost the Rangers somewhere between $24m-$27M.
Evan Grant making a blog post isn't enough scuttlebutt for me to think the Rangers would do something so silly.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I wouldn't be shocked if Nellie got a little more
Maybe 6.5 mil
But the other numbers look pretty good
I'm ready for the flurry of Yu tweets.
Entertain me, dammit.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 16, 2012 4:12 PM CST via Android app reply actions
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