If Yu Want It, Yu Got It -- The Rangers Bust a Move, Sign Darvish
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2012 6:46 PM CST
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PrintAs expected, the Rangers have reached a deal with Yu Darvish on a contract that is being widely reported as a 6 year, $60 million deal, but which is apparently a little more complicated than that.
It does appear to be a six year deal, but the sixth year is either a player option or is a year that Darvish can opt out of, the difference seeming to be simply one of semantics. Jon Paul Morosi just tweeted this in regards to that sixth year:
Source: Yu Darvish must hit certain high-end award levels in order to opt-out of his contract after five years.
Obviously, it depends on the "high-end award levels," but it sounds like, if Darvish does pitch well enough to opt out of that fifth year, the Rangers will have more than gotten their money's worth out of Darvish by that point.
Darvish will reportedly wear #11, his number in Japan, but he is apparently not going to start on Opening Day, as Ron Washington has already stated that he expects Colby Lewis to be his Opening Day starter. Reasonably, the Rangers appear to want to give Darvish a chance to experience the major league game in uniform but as a spectator before throwing him out there.
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I'm going to Opening Night
Hopefully we get to see him make his first start.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!
"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game
it's going to be Colby.
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
Leonys Martin is no Judy- JD at Newberg Night.
Who's starting opening day then?
"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game
oh wait, nevermind...
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
Leonys Martin is no Judy- JD at Newberg Night.
Would You Rather Have: Yu Darvish or C.J. Wilson
Ohhhh… this is fun!
Darvish:
-————
The Rangers’ first 7 games are in Arlington this season. If the Rangers are really, really smart, Yu won’t start before Game 4 (Seattle) rather than one of the first 3 (White Sox). Game 5 might be even better. The anticipation among the fandom will be palpable. We could well see every game up to Yu’s first start sell out.
And, if he wins, his next home start sells out. If he loses, the honeymoon effect will keep him from being tarred, feathered, drawn, quartered, court-marshalled and stood in front of a firing squad before being run out of town on a rail. Plus, he’s in Texas and not NY or Boston … we’re more tolerant and will allow our expectations to grow over time rather than expect his Cy Young be delivered before the end of April.
Plus, what I’ve seen of Yu… his fastball jumps out of his hand. He throws his curve with ease, grace and fluidity. He’s bigger and stronger. And, he’s use to success.
Wilson:
-———
C.J. will arrive in LA with equally high expectations. But, I doubt California will be as tolerant; although, they won’t be NY or Boston. Still, any sellouts will be due to a new first-baseman in town and not anything to do with an always dominant, anyway, pitching staff.
If C.J. wins, he won last year and the year before, too. Ho Hum. The publicity will not be anywhere near as electric as that provided by Yu and his “potential”.
And, C.J. works WAY too hard to have the same results as other good pitchers. He “chunks” the ball at the plate and is mortally afraid to give the hitter something he might square up on. He often get so far into his own head, he screws himself into knots. LA fans will find themselves stressed to the limit when he’s on the mound.
____________________
Just the publicity alone makes Yu worth what he was given by the Rangers and send C.J. packing. But, over the long run, I’ll be Yu proves to be the better pitcher, too. Especially, when it counts.
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comment on CBS
Would You Rather Have: Yu Darvish or C.J. Wilson
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22297882/34450208
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
LSB night
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by The Best Micah on Jan 18, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
What is the date of this?
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by The Best Micah on Jan 18, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
You going to be there?
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by The Best Micah on Jan 18, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
Most likely not
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
Sad
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by The Best Micah on Jan 18, 2012 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
good friday
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
That is Opening Day
Not LSB Day
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by The Best Micah on Jan 18, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
I'll be there
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
First I've heard of it and thinking about it seriously
He better pitch that night.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
There will be a fanpost in the next few weeks
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by The Best Micah on Jan 18, 2012 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
opening day game starts at 1 p.m. btw
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
Yu gotta believe!!!
Now go get Prince!
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
5 Hours before I have to give up on the dream of signing Prince and Yu in the same day
to counter the CJ/Pujols day of hell
Stretch this out over several days
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I say it counts if we get it in before everyone wakes up tomorrow
It will be close enough if we get the JPC
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 6:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yu know that's right.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
What!?
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 6:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
gotta love that contract
if Yu include the posting fee…
only four pitchers have cost more then Yu
CC, Lee, Santana and….. Zito
heard that on The Ticket
by RangerMad on Jan 18, 2012 6:56 PM CST via Android app reply actions
three of whom
I’d take at that price, just going off the top of my head. The 4th guy? Not so much.
by cracker1743 on Jan 18, 2012 6:59 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
on a AAV basis
he comes in at number 6 right in between Halladay and Zambrano.
Cots has the list but can’t figure how to link it using my phone
by RangerMad on Jan 18, 2012 7:05 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
here you go
1. CC Sabathia, $24,400,000 (2012-16)
2. Cliff Lee, $24,000,000 (2011-15)
3. CC Sabathia, $23,000,000 (2009-15)
4. Johan Santana, $22,916,667 (2008-13)
5. Roy Halladay, $20,000,000 (2011-13)
6. Carlos Zambrano, $18,300,000 (2008-12)
7. Barry Zito, $18,000,000 (2007-13)
8. Jake Peavy, $17,333,333 (2010-12)
9. Jered Weaver, $17,000,000 (2012-16)
10. A.J. Burnett, $16,500,000 (2009-13)
. . . John Lackey, $16,500,000 (2010-14)
12. Justin Verlander, $16,000,000 (2010-14)
13. Jason Schmidt, $15,666,667 (2007-09)
14. Felix Hernandez, $15,600,000 (2010-14)
15. C.J. Wilson, $15,500,000 (2012-16)
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/?page_id=179
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
So, given the high end level award based opt-out
we are just going to use 6 as the denominator instead of 5?
I wouldn't do either until we hear how hard it is to get.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I guess in terms of the list it doesn't matter much
It’s either right above Zambrano or right above Halladay.
And less than what any 25 year old with TORP potential would get if they could be a FA at that age.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
exactly
we’re by instinct comparing Yu to guys who hit FA at 28 or so. But we really should think about what a Feliz Hernandez could have gotten on the open market right now. Obviously a whole lot more since he’s proven. But that just goes to show that the unproven aspect is factored into the price
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Indeed.
You could say it’s a Yu-ge Investment.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Now that we know the amount...
If he’s anyone in the green or blue list… he’ll be worth it.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
which WAR measure
has the most credibility at the moment, 4.5 4.7 or 5? I’ve seen all three…
I used 4.7 because that's what Szymborski did.
I think all could be defended depending on how you calculate.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Oliver had him at like 6+.
I want to say Oliver is now the most credible.
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6.5...
It’s pretty clear that they know what they’re doing.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
He's talking about dollar per WAR I believe.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Oliver?
Whose site is he one?
Hardball Times
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
How much do you think a team would pay
for the 25yo Felix? 25 per minimum? 30?
Teams would pay more for Moore.
I would bet over $150M.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yes.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
OK
Well, I wouldn’t do that for him. But that’s just me.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
really?
why wouldn’t the Rays just sell him?
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
by JBImaknee on Jan 18, 2012 9:21 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Because acquiring a player like we did Darvish for money alone...
Isn’t an option for the Rays. They can’t post him.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
MLB would never allow that.
Or they would have done it already.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Charlie Finley tried doing that in the 70s
He had a deal to sell Vida Blue to the Yankees, and Joe Rudi and Rollie Fingers to the BoSox, in exchange for a significant amount of cash that would have allowed him to keep much of the rest of the team intact and allow him to stay on as owner.
Bowie Kuhn vetoed it under the “best interests of baseball” clause, but mainly because he wanted to force Finley out.
As a result, though, since then, you can’t simply sell a player, the way, for example, Boston sold Babe Ruth back in the day, and the way other players were commonly bought and sold back then (Branch Rickey supposedly got a 10% cut of the sale price of any player sold that he had signed and developed when he was g.m. of the Cardinals).
It was short-sighted, but then, much of what Bowie Kuhn did was.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Well
Felix I just don’t know if it is a good example. Or maybe that is what Goyo is going for, but the fact that we know Felix is a beast makes it kind of easy to say teams would pay a ton for the rights to him.
But Matt Moore I think has maybe the same type of promise that Darvish does (I think people would argue both ways on it, actually).
yeah
I don’t doubt Moore’s talent, I’d just be scared to death to write him a Felix-like check at the moment.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
Oh I get it
No, Moore and Yu are not similar because Yu is not a prospect; Yu has been pitching in the NPB since age 18.
But I do love Moore
and I might pay him 30 million anyways
Or
what it would have cost us in players/prospects to get a #1, age 25, with a potential Ace ceiling in a couple years: top 3 prospects, another kid in the top 10, and Holland?
That's the really amazing thing.
We haven’t had to touch the farm yet.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
it is also not fair to add in the full posting fee either
it is possible that the net $$$ they end up paying Darvish ends up being less then what CJ is paid on an AAV basis
by RangerMad on Jan 18, 2012 7:39 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I think it is fair
How much much would he have garnered without the posting fee? I think he gets 15per easy, if not right around what the AAV TX is paying (17.95 per). So his annual salary is directly related to his overall cost (contract + fee) which is as it should be and both parties assumed this. Boras initially refused to accept this with Dice-K but did so in the end.
Yu only has to average 4 WAR over the life of the contract so it is still a good risk.
right
You can’t just pretend like the $51.7 million doesn’t exist. If that part wasn’t spent, the contract wouldn’t have been spent. It’s part of the entire transaction.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
but there are other sources of revenue
and writeoffs the Rangers will get that they have benefited from if they had signed CJ or another FA
by RangerMad on Jan 18, 2012 7:57 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
not following you, sorry
What do you mean by revenue if they went another route?
The cost is the cost. And it’s like Goyogringo said, if Yu had been a regular US free agent at this age, there would have been no posting fee obviously, but there definitely would have been an equivalent portion of that $51.7 million (if not the whole thing) when you added up that entire hypothetical deal.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
You don't think Yu will bring additional revenue streams then
what CJ would?
by RangerMad on Jan 18, 2012 8:07 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Ah
OK, I see what you mean. But now you’re talking about offsetting costs, vs. just the cost itself.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
well
net costs are what really matters anyhow. The Yankess wouldn’t have a $200M payroll if they were losing money
by RangerMad on Jan 18, 2012 8:14 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Heh
well the NYYs have said (key word) in the recent past they were losing money. You can move $ around the books in a lot of ways, though.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
Your writing wasn't clear there
but, yeah, it isn’t too much though, something estimated between 5-10m per I think. I’m just not sure it is something the team will be able to measure ahead of time and it will likely come from marketing/advertising/sponsorships rather than gate/merch.
CJ wilison wouldn’t bring in that extra revenue, true, but another star caliber US player would. I think the critical issue is that the AAV is reasonable comparable to other 4 WAR pitchers and 4 WAR is a pretty safe baseline for the contract given his skill set and experience.
and those measures were for
Japanese players, I think, so the variance could be significant since it only included about 5 former NPB stars over the last 5 years (at least)…can’t find the link now.
None of those guys were Darvish's age though
He’s two or three years younger than Zito and CC at the times of their deals. And I’m pretty sure Johan was older and Lee definitely is older
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if i wake up tomorrow and find out he acquired king felix for neftali perez and a sack of baseballs i won’t be surprised. i’m pretty sure he has powers of mind control at this point, and that his voice sounds like darth vader’s anytime he wants it to
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These are not the free agents you’re looking for.
by cracker1743 on Jan 18, 2012 7:05 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Best case scenario is a back loaded mutual option
With performance incentives. But I doubt it.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 18, 2012 7:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yeah maybe
Big picture is what I care about most, rather than what happens between 2016-17 with Yu. That’s important, too, but with the staff we’ve got now, the guys coming up, a FO that knows what the hell to do, gobs of TV money on the way – we’re just at the start of the golden age of this team.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 7:35 PM CST up reply actions
So, I guess it will be up to Prince now..
If it is true that Prince really wants to be a Ranger, he’ll be a Ranger. On the other hand, if it is all about the money, then I guess Prince is going to Washington.
If JD did my taxes, I'd probably get a $50,000 return and a BJ.
by dolphinpuncher on Jan 18, 2012 7:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions 4 recs
From JD?
Awesome
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Pffft
You can keep the BJ. I can’t get off on them.
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by Brian Thomas on Jan 18, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
during the press conference...
They kept referring to “scouting the pacific rim”
I try to do that every Saturday night….most Asian girls like it.
by death of the cool on Jan 18, 2012 7:19 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
You should try
Hiking the Appalachian trail sometime
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
Yu Darvish celebration party
on turntable.fm.
Get in on this.
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Whatever
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“Rangers were desperate to make sure they kept the pace with the Sox, Yanks and Angels as a big spender and made this move. I really don’t think they have thought it through and researched it enough as Japanese “Aces in the Major Leagues” aren’t all that prevalent."
Yeah, the Rangers haven’t researched it enough- that’s why they had someone scouting pretty much every one of Darvish’s starts this past season. Idiot.
"Those cocksuckers asking me if I thought we were gonna go up there and try to work his fuckin’ pitch count ‘cause he’s on three fuckin’ days rest…you know what I told those cocksuckers? He pitch ball, ball cross plate, we gonna knock the shit out of it."
- Wash
back to back WS
aren’t they trying to keep up with the Rangers?
by RangerMad on Jan 18, 2012 7:26 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
stupid is as stupid
does?
idiots gotta idiot…
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by Justin Biehle on Jan 18, 2012 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
People need to realize that he's no average Japanese pitcher
Better stats, bigger build. He’s different
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
$111 million for what could end up being vaporware
I hope the kid lives up to the hype
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
Stuff is stuff.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
How's HH?
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You might want to change your sig.
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by The Best Micah on Jan 18, 2012 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Your butthurt is showing.
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by vfn on Jan 18, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope they enjoy paying Pooojols
while he’s in hospice care
"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game
So are you going to go all Josey on us with this all year?
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by Brian Thomas on Jan 18, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
Indeed.
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
There are now 30 teams that are saying it is unlikely they sign Prince Fielder….however, I still think that one team is likely to sign him
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
He'll just sign there unsigned
like in sports video games where no team has cap space to a particular FA’s demands.
i tell the truth; i lie a lot
ooooooooooo....oooooooooooo...that today is gonna be a good good day...
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I wonder if we're seeing a phenomenon
when players can be clearly worth a whole lot of money, relative to all other players, but because they’re SO expensive and there are so few teams, they just can’t get a buyer. 30 teams is not a perfect market. So while the lazy thing is to say “Prince Fielder isn’t worth 7+ or 100+” it may actually just be that at that level, sometimes a player can’t get what he is worth…
Go Rice Owls!
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by JBImaknee on Jan 18, 2012 7:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They're worth what the market says they're worth
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 18, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Some agent a while ago was complaining that teams were starting to value players at remarkably similar levels.
And someone also pointed out how often players were getting similar contracts on the market to what sites like FG projected them to be worth.
I think a lot of this is teams being less and less willing to just pay more than they think a player is worth just because the player wants it. They think they can just try and place the money elsewhere and be better longer for it.
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I mean, and Werth and a Pujols can still happen, obviously.
But for someone like a Fielder, it might be getting harder to eventually get a team to pony up something excessive.
Teams might also be spending way more time looking at how heavy players age than Boras would like.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
Yup
small market and throw in things like Team X already has a pretty decent 1B, and the market gets even smaller.
Rationally, a lot of those teams should probably take on Fielder and jettison some other salary to make it work but most teams are just going to say “yeah, we’re good.”
BRILLIANT DEDUCTION, JIM.
PLEASE, TELL ME MORE.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
We've finally paid in-between 100m-250m for a player
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
Let's do it again
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Soon
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Have we discussed the Rangers' promotional schedule?
There’s apparently going to be Beltre, Kinsler, and Washington Bobblehead nights. And a Replica American League Trophy night.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 7:36 PM CST reply actions
The schedule is out?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Just dicking around and I found this:
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yay
Looks like I’ll get a calendar. If I’m there early enough and survive tailgating.
"DAMN STRAIGHT. I LIKE MY GAY SEX WITHOUT TRICKS." - Chrom
by The Best Micah on Jan 18, 2012 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
I want the Beltre, Kins and Wash bobbleheads so bad
I’ll be paying a premium on ebay, I think.
"DAMN STRAIGHT. I LIKE MY GAY SEX WITHOUT TRICKS." - Chrom
by The Best Micah on Jan 18, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
Kinsler Bobblehead First 10,000, 13 & under?
damnit
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
Gah
I didn’t read that part.
"DAMN STRAIGHT. I LIKE MY GAY SEX WITHOUT TRICKS." - Chrom
by The Best Micah on Jan 18, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Lotsa women gonna be tryin' to scam 12 year-olds for the Kinsler bobbleheads.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
They had their fun with the Elvis statue
But now its time for a new toy.
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
What?!
Why?
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I guess young siblings have their uses
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Rent some kids
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
I have six siblings under thirteen
Unfortunately none of them care about the Rangers. I’ll have to buy Dippin Dots.
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Beltres should be down on one knee
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No, his should be of him jogging
and pointing at the ground. Maybe a caption saying “OH SHIT!”
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 18, 2012 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
Sponsored by Brown Hand Center...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Family Friendly is overrated
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Family Friendly is overrated
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tebow has just been Adrianeeling.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
Beltreing
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I must have Wash!!!
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 18, 2012 7:48 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I want a trophy
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
they better not run out of trophies...
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by Chrom on Jan 18, 2012 7:37 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Get there early.
I will.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Harry book night
He’ll be signing them pregame!
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Creeeeeeepy
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by The Best Micah on Jan 18, 2012 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
Did you hear about the Snow Monkey's?
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 18, 2012 7:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I did...
but it’s not on the schedule so maybe this isn’t complete.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
that Yu Darvish pic sure makes a great desktop background :)
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
Leonys Martin is no Judy- JD at Newberg Night.
Or unlock screen
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 7:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Um QQ
what is a P1…I dont live in the Dallas area and cant stream the radio as much I would like
You gotta get up mighty muthafuckin' early in the mornin' to fuck with me - Wash
by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 18, 2012 7:39 PM CST reply actions
program 1 n your radio dial
"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game
ahhh gotcha
figured it would be something along those lines
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by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 18, 2012 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
What a freakin perfect YUsday!!!!!!!!!!!
First the obvious…duh.
After earlier getting the new management gig all but sown up.
WOW!
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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 18, 2012 7:51 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
And I would like to put my feelings in to picture form...
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by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 18, 2012 7:51 PM CST reply actions
That's the guy from the Biker show
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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 18, 2012 7:55 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
nah, it aint Opie...Stew mac be staight gettin bitches pregnant
Also, does this help all of our fantasies since there will be SOOOO many more asian women in the D/FW area now? Not bukkake type shit but classy giesha bitches
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by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 18, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
I live in Asia Town
AKA Audelia/Plano Rd area…I do not mind at all.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 18, 2012 8:14 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
guys on MLBN think Darvish will be better the Nomo
by RangerMad on Jan 18, 2012 7:55 PM CST via Android app reply actions
I wonder what Tron thinks of the Rangers getting Darvish...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 8:06 PM CST reply actions
I bet we already know
We just don’t know we know.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
I want to know that I know...
Email me, Hunter. Right now.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
We all miss the Huntressa
:(
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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 18, 2012 8:17 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Still seeing Oswalt's name with the Rangers
Why? Bullpen role? I feel like you would have to start Feliz in AAA then. Don’t see how you send Harrison to the pen.
That could be the goal.
Colby
Holland
Darvish
Harrison
Oswalt
With Feliz seasoning in AAA. That would take serious organization nuts to send him down.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I just think it's bad player management
You would be risking a player’s development on the gamble that one of your pitchers fails or gets injured.
If those 5 stay healthy most/all of the year, Feliz either spends the entire season in AAA, or is landed back in the bullpen, further stunting his development.
How would you be risking his development?
You would be aiding it, if anything, by letting him start every fifth day regardless of the circumstances and with less pressure.
I’m not saying I want to see it happen, but I don’t think it “stunts” his development at all.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Depends how he handles it, mentally
I, for one, would be pissed.
He pitched well for our team in back-to-back World Series runs as the closer.
Now, we wouldn’t be able to guarantee that he gets to pitch for us next season, and he’d be relegated to traveling on busses and staying in cheap hotels with the minor leaguers.
I could see him getting pissed
Classic example for me is Ron Gant. He started 2B for the Braves all of 1989, then opened 1990 in A ball to learn OF. That would suck. But he ended up having a long career in MLB.
If Feliz bombs in ST this year I could see them sending him to AAA easily. He can’t get too upset (well, he could), knowing his only ticket back is to get his head out of his ass and pitch well like everyone knows he can as long as head is out of said ass.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
I think it'd be one thing if we had a Dave Bush pitching in the 5 spot
such that we could promise Feliz that he would get a chance as soon as he turned it around in AAA. But, with that roto, you wouldn’t be able to make such a promise.
Feliz is part of our core, and he knows it. You can’t just AAA your core guys, imo.
true, the rotation is solid
This is just me talking, but if a guy isn’t performing then adjustments need to be made at some point. Rick Ankiel – probably the most classic head case in a generation. I saw that guy pitch in Rookie ball 10ish years ago and thought – what in the living fuck is this guy doing here? One of the best lefty talents I’ve ever seen in my life, maybe the best stuff-wise, but for whatever reason he just fell apart. Of course, Feliz couldn’t turn around and be an OF like him. But if he’s got problems, they need to be worked out the best way possible. I trust the team to figure out what that is, even if it’s sending him down. Hopefully it will never get to that point.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it'll be interesting to watch what happens
Best case scenario: we get Alexi Ogando + next season
Worst case scenario: Joba Chamberlain, where he can’t even do that well when he gets back to the pen.
I’m excited, though… I think he’s going to be very good.
I do too
He didn’t do THAT bad in ST last year. This year he’s had more time to prepare himself.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
You're right, I remembered him being dominant his rookie season
but it was only 24 IP, now that I look
It could also be about extending his team control
Make up for putting off converting him until this year.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
that would destroy neftali's psyche sending him down to AAA after being rookie of the year
and having a good season last year……. just my opinion.
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"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
Why?
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
i imagine being succesful in the big leagues for 2 full seasons
then being sent down to AAA would be pretty damn dissapointing… even if it is to become a TORP
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
But what if you throw him in the rotation, he implodes and he has to be sent down anyway?
I would think that would hurt his psyche way more than being told they want him to prove he’s fully prepared for his new role before he’s handed a roto spot. Especially if you think he’s a weak enough dude to be hurt by simply being sent down to start the season.
And there’s a good chance that’s exactly what happens if he’s tossed in the rotation out of ST, too.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
right now I am thinking
they would send him back to the pen before AAA. He could always replaced Lowe
by RangerMad on Jan 18, 2012 8:38 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Why would they do that if they're trying to convert him into a starter?
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
I don't think so.
He’s a starter now and was a reliever then. If he needs the work he needs the work.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
That AAA Roto would be stacked
NeRam/Marteen/Feliz/RobbieRoss
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
what if Feliz struggles in AAA?
by RangerMad on Jan 18, 2012 8:40 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Then we're damn glad we didn't start him in the majors
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
Hey Aqua
Random question…but what channel was the Baylor-Kansas State game on? I’m having trouble finding where it aired.
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ESPN2.
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Many thanks.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 18, 2012 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
Hehe
according to ESPN, our GM is some fellow named John Daniels.
Seriously you lazy fucks.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Only one of the best damn management guy in the whole freaking sports world
oh well.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
Should have just read Rangers GM Ninja
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
This means nothing to me.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Over 5,200 comments today too.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
We're gunning for you, TalkingChop!
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
There's not that much actual activity there.
I think their numbers are a scam.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Wait, they're #1 on SBN?
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They were the #1 baseball blog in November...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Weird.
Guess the Derek Lowe trade was a big deal after all.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
Their numbers don't look that high
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
You can't see their page view numbers.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
This is what I'm referring to
Are those not accurate?
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Damn.
I'm a girl. I RUN DENTON.
"if there is anything LSB is good at, it's dispute resolution." --BHill on Nov 23, 2011 8:13 PM
Way, way less than that.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY less.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
That's half of what ODB has so far in its entire existence.
Very sadface.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
DARVISH: A DUAL THREAT DREAM YU CAN COUNT ON
"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"
Heisman night and the bowl game were our two best days.
Something like 5,500 each.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I was doing a few hundred page views a day when LSB first started
And I thought that was pretty happening.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Great, kid.
Don’t get cocky.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 18, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
Has no one mentioned
The Knox interview potential with Japanese fans as they make their way to Arlington?
"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"
If we all make the Yu start
we have to get an interview.
Right?
Right?!
"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"
I'll tell him that I'm coming
That usually does it
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
.
LSB doesn’t love you
quite the way you wish we would have.
But at least we don’t treat you
quite as bad as we could have.
If we made you feel competent
Jim, we’re sorry — we were lyin’.
Knox, you’re always on our minds.
Knox, you’re always on our minds.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
by Snark on Jan 18, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
That’s going on my tombstone.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
I believe it
You probably watch the video of Knox getting carried away in the last game 10 times a day
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I've got a digital picture frame that plays it on a loop on my nightstand...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
On your nightstand...
TMI?
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'd like to know more, personally
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by Chrom on Jan 18, 2012 9:03 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
GoET and Knoxy... I can see it
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 9:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The best thing the man has ever done is fall off a skateboard.
That, I admit, was awesome. Otherwise, his presence on my TV is entirely unwanted.
Great, another group of fans that Knox can scar for life within one 30 second interview
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
G'day mate!
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Cold.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
Mind=blown
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's what WFF blow outs will do to a man
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I was once right next to Knox as he interviewed the person right next to me
cs,b
(GoET: “Jim Knoz interviewed me. I was doing the claw.”)
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I've met Emily Jones
Twice!
Coolest story, bro!
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm the father.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
She's just not that hot.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
GoET was dropping Rangers broadcast names
So I thought I drop one, too
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just thought I'd throw my BTO of her out there...
I feel like LSB over values her.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
She's pretty hot
She’s not a 10
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'd put her at a 7
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Exactly where I would put her
BT/GFF O
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't even remember what she looks like anymore
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
Someone show this guy a pre-baby Emily Jones pic
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
1.1 WAR?
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Also, I like Emily Jones becuase she's a Techie
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Interesting...12 different people. That's a lot of homework and research.
Daniels traveled to Japan to see Darvish pitch this season, but he was just one of 12 from the organization who watched Darvish in action in 2011.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
One was disguised as a first plate umpire
Another, a patch of infield grass
Another, a cameraman
by dolphinpuncher on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yuuuu. Yu gots what I nee-ed.
Well you say he just a friend.
You say he just a friend.
Oh baby!
Yuuu. Yu gots what I nee-ed.
As good as Prince Fielder would've looked in a 4XL Rangers' uniform, we all know you win with pitching. -- JJT
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
You?
What does this mean?
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wow.
Like the move.
Yes, I’m back. Sort of.
I've been following this blog for 2.5 years
But I have no idea who you are or why we would care that your back. Fill me in.
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 8:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
ouch
let the man have a comeback. ITS A CELEBRATION BITCH
You gotta get up mighty muthafuckin' early in the mornin' to fuck with me - Wash
by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 18, 2012 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
No reason you should care.
I don’t speak up a lot.
But when I left after the World Series (was dealing with some personal tragedy at the time that made everything else seem worse than it was), certain people predicted I’d be back.
So I was just observing that they were, in fact, at least partly correct.
by Stormwalker on Jan 19, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
heyyyyyy ooooooooooooooooo
SW in the house
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
Let's all go get knee-walking drunk at the tittie bar!
Hot damn, there’s only one thing that’ll make tonight better.
Tittays!
Enthusiam is indispensible.
by BTWooWoo on Jan 18, 2012 8:50 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Ok y'all I have a bold ass sports prediction that has nothing to do with Yu
Peyton Manning to the Broncos…makes perfect sense. Its the only way for Elway to have those dumbass Broncos fans to get off Tebow’s virgin nuts
You gotta get up mighty muthafuckin' early in the mornin' to fuck with me - Wash
by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 18, 2012 8:53 PM CST reply actions
Nah
I still think Peyton has Redskins written all over him because its the kind of thing Snyder always does, which this time would actually scare the crap out of me
Dallas Stars Examiner
used to be under name hinduplaya
You think Shanny would be ok having a QB that wants to call his own plays?
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Nope
Peyton and mouse mouth will clash heads…Peyton doesnt have the neck for that
You gotta get up mighty muthafuckin' early in the mornin' to fuck with me - Wash
by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 18, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
heh
BenRogers Ben Rogers
I got Nolan on record telling the story of ducking Galloway for a month. Hilarious… tune in tomorrow to hear it
I bet he got it from River Fenix
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
I'LL BET NOLAN USES THE PHRASE "JD'S BABY" DON'T YOU RABBLE RABBLE?
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and why again are people jizzin their dockers over this guy?
You gotta get up mighty muthafuckin' early in the mornin' to fuck with me - Wash
by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 18, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
CORE STRENGTH
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
the crazy tools for starters
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
that would be like signing an unproven pitcher from Japa.....ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
You gotta get up mighty muthafuckin' early in the mornin' to fuck with me - Wash
by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
Almost hit that hit on one knee
where have I seen that before….?
This is of particular interest to me.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
Also, holy shit, Dominicans..
talk any faster, why don’t you?
I thought Argentinians spoke faster than shit.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
Still having a hard time wrapping my mind around this.
He’s really ours.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
For the next 5 years.
Probably a good jersey investment.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
Already bought one this afternoon.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Nolan needs to work on his poker face...
From T.R. Sullivan:
“After going through this process, I’m intimately familiar with our budget,” Daniels said. “It’s very unlikely.”
Said Rangers president Nolan Ryan, “We’ll just have to see where things go the rest of the winter and see what our opportunities are. I’m not sure we can predict anything at this time.”
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 9:11 PM CST reply actions
You're right
The more he denies, the more I believe the opposite…it will be a sad day when his denial is the truth
If Jon Daniels were Catholic, at the end of his confession:
“Now go forth and sin no more, my son.
But please do sign one more. Make him the Prince. Not the Prince of Peace, mind you. The Prince of Pizza. Of Wings. Of Cheeseburgers."
As it is, Daniels’ rabbi just wants all of these deals to be kosher.
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Then how'd we get a Nippon HAM Fighter?!
A burden should never be something out of your control.
"I'm a Cowboys fan. And I hope they miss the playoffs and get the better draft pick. This team sucks. We're saving ourselves the embarrassment too. That's a major +" by JDT217 on Dec 26, 2011
HE FIGHTS HAM. HOW MORE KOSHER COULD IT BE?!
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by Snark on Jan 18, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Didn't see that on his player card, sorry.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
"I'm a Cowboys fan. And I hope they miss the playoffs and get the better draft pick. This team sucks. We're saving ourselves the embarrassment too. That's a major +" by JDT217 on Dec 26, 2011
Farsad Darvishsefad is obviously a Persian Jewish name.
There’s an expert on these sorts of things on LSB, but I haven’t seen him posting lately.
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Particularly today.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Is that the newest guess?
Wales is Nolan Ryan?
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DAMMIT
I just looked up how many comments he had. Unfortunately it’s about 7 thousand more than 35,000.
Also, I needed you earlier, and you let me down.
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Star Wars riff.
jam0152 or whatever stepped up, but the first step was false.
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Another.
You can search for “Who’s gonna brew it, kid? You?”
Also, you missed “lambic pentameter,” which made me sad.
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By the way:
We’re probably going to be in/around LA in April. Sadly, it will be a quick trip, and we won’t be able to eat or drink anything leavened.
But we’ll be back in August, for a wedding, and will likely have some free time then…
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Cool cool cool.
I wasn’t initially sure how long I’d be at this job with the sudden move and all, but now I’m thinking I’ll be here for a while.
You got my email? GB has it, if not.
I think we might've emailed, once?
But if not, I’ll get it from Pras.
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Not if ab03 gets there first.
He wants all the cheddar.
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Good luck getting the domain name.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I've been busy launching new site features for the station
So tired of generic AP content.
I’ll be around more soon…
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
Sports Producer, WFAA-TV/WFAA.com. Lover of feedback.
Now I really want the Rangers to get Prince
just for the Ninjaness of it all
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
I'm sure JD is going to try
and when talks get serious with Boras, Simpson is going to tap him on the shoulder and show JD a wallet full of thousand dollar bills instead of the hundreds that JD thought he had
by RangerMad on Jan 18, 2012 9:18 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Simpson will just reach into his pants and pull his money penis out
while doing the Captain Morgan pose.
When it comes out JD will look away because it can not be seen by a mortal or blindness will follow.
by Pocket Ninja on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
So why would JD have to look away?
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
by TheDutchOven on Jan 18, 2012 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see 'no' in there anywhere
by RangerMad on Jan 18, 2012 9:14 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
it's 75 here in San Antonio
no fuckin winter here at all
You gotta get up mighty muthafuckin' early in the mornin' to fuck with me - Wash
by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 18, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
feels damn good
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
/HighFive
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I going blue too...
Fielder will be red.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
x
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
by MonkeyEpoxy on Jan 18, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
UUU
You gotta get up mighty muthafuckin' early in the mornin' to fuck with me - Wash
by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 18, 2012 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
Damn you MonkeyEpoxy!!!
I hate these hilarious comic strips
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
well, thats like...your opinion man
You gotta get up mighty muthafuckin' early in the mornin' to fuck with me - Wash
by AndrusImpersonator on Jan 18, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
sweeter than a can of yams with extra syrup
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
best movie ever
Co-owner of Mick Dago Productions
www.mickdagoproductions.com
Really really is
every time I watch it I laugh just as had as I did the first time. Just reading quotes from the movie cracks me up.
if you snooze you lose
well I see we missed on Jamie Moyers, Rockies gain
Napoli and Yu are going to lunch on Friday.
All we need is Dutch to join and they can all sing this on their way…
.
"@EmilyJonesFSN: @faridyu @MikeNapoli25 Are you going to translate?"he speaks English I just got off the phone with him, going to lunch fri
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 18, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Best. Lunch. Ever.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I would stab Arte Moreno in the face for a churro
by dolphinpuncher on Jan 18, 2012 9:56 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Would you stab Arte Moreno if a churro weren't involved, though?
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No, I'd probably make him sign Vernon Wells to a 6-year extension at gunpoint.
by dolphinpuncher on Jan 18, 2012 10:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tim Brown...
Round about the time the Los Angeles Angels reclaimed the American League West, the Texas Rangers took it back again with Wednesday’s signing of Japanese right-hander Yu Darvish, and still have room – on the roster and, believe it or not, in the budget – for slugger Prince Fielder.
Whether they choose to spend either on the free-agent first baseman will play out over the next week or so.
Either way, the Rangers continue to evolve into what the New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox used to be, which is to say the offseason isn’t over until they say it is, until the last free agent is signed and the last available piece is traded and the last dollar is cast.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 9:59 PM CST reply actions
That last sentence makes zero sense whatsoever.
Which means only slightly more sense than Marc Hulet’s ranking of the Rangers’ prospects.
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He's saying the Rangers are in on everything...
Of course, they don’t spend anywhere near what those Goliaths do (or the Angels, for that matter). And yet they manage to insert themselves into every conversation, romance nearly every significant free agent, dance all over every trading deadline, and then go to the World Series. Twice. In a row.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Apparently, the Yankees and Red Sox used to be the quality of
the offseason not being over until they say it is, but the Rangers are now that quality?
Doesn’t Tim Brown have an editor, somewhere?
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He's being doing those power rankings for a couple of seasons so I'm guessing no...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't even realize Tim Brown did power rankings.
I think there might be a reason for that, based on that column.
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They're among my least favorite things...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 18, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
I actually like "soothing for Washington to know the Endy's near."
More of this, please, Mr. Brown. Fewer incomprehensible sentences.
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want to go let our dollars be cast at the strip club tonight?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
Are you asking me on a date?
Or is this just a reference I’m not getting?
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i was making fun of this god awful sentence..
until the last free agent is signed and the last available piece is traded and the last dollar is cast.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
See, I just blotted that bit out of my mind as soon as I read it.
Sorry.
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We were winning the AL West with or without Yu.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
i support this
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
But they still haven't found what they're looking for?
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Well... I think they're looking for that bullet in the blue sky
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
by Brad on Jan 18, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
And here I thought you were going to say that all they want is Yu.
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Relax... it's been a beautiful day.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
It's 'cause it's not a Sunday.
Bloody Sundays.
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This One was quite the Lemon
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I don't think you're prepared for the Elevation I will take this.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Do you see me looking for an Exit?
No, I don’t think so. I got Pride.
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U2 is lame
Toki: Clowns are, statistically, the most hated of all creatures.
Skwisgaar: Statisticallies or not, but, uh, just don'ts likes this guy.
I used to like you, even though you punch perfectly friendly sea creatures.
This, however, I can not abide.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
It's really just Bono.
I have nothing against the other band members.
by dolphinpuncher on Jan 19, 2012 12:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
No. I think Ogando goes to the bullpen.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
God, I love these kinds of pitching problems
I can’t believe we have them now.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
Saw this on MLBTR
Somewhere, in a dark land, at the top of a high evil looking building, sitting on a chair made of the skin of former GMs, Scott Boras is petting a cat saying "I’ll get you next time Jon Daniels!"
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
by laxtonto on Jan 18, 2012 11:34 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
From EG Q&A: How does this impact the pursuit of Prince Fielder?
A: It’s no longer the Rangers’ pursuit of Fielder, but rather the other way around. If Fielder wants to come to Texas, he and agent Scott Boras are going to have to get creative. The Rangers weren’t interested in eight- or 10-year deals and that was when they were more interested in Fielder in case the Darvish deal fell through. Now? Fielder would likely have to accept a fairly low first-year salary and nothing more than six guaranteed years. His “perk” would likely be some kind of escape clause after three or four years to allow him to test free agency again.
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/01/qa-on-rangers-deal-with-yu-dar.html
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 11:44 PM CST reply actions
Yes, we should do that.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I'd love 4 instead of 3
Give him 4, let him eat a bunch of candy then get the hell out of here.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 19, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
Darvish cost Fielder
Based on what I’m reading, I’m coming to this conclusion. Of course, Vish’s money would have only cost half of what Prince wants.
Darvish + About 75 mil in budget from 2016-2019 vs Prince Fielder for 7 years
Interesting case study I think. If Vish stays healthy, I think the Rangers make out pretty well here.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 18, 2012 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
It cost him a long term deal, but...
no one in MLB wants to sign a massive deal for PF anyway, so who cares. It could still very well happen for us. Maybe not.
But maybe.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 18, 2012 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see it.
The comment that does it for me is when JD says, “I am intimately familiar with the budget, and it’s very unlikely.” Something like that.
In business speak on a public forum, this is very strong language.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
Unlikely doesn't mean impossible
by dolphinpuncher on Jan 19, 2012 12:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Shot
The only shot I see of Prince in Texas, is if Prince thinks the following:
5 years at 2-4 mil less AAV, with an opt out clause after 3 years in Texas gives me another massive contract at 30 years old. I can absolutely destroy Arlington.
I highly doubt this happens. Even if we assume there’s no performance risk, injury risk is too high at these stakes. I think it means more to Washington or Baltimore at this point.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:12 AM CST up reply actions
Do people really call him "Vish"?
For some reason, I really hope not.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I'm just going to go ahead and veto this "Vish" thing...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 19, 2012 12:46 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Thank you.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Which reminds me
There is this guy in NY that I watch Rangers games with, and he keeps calling them the " ’gers" and I want to slap him in the face.
My guess?
Something like 6/135, with 2 option years that will vest, and a possible opt out, maybe something performance based like Darvish’s after 5.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
2 Team Race For Prince
Washington vs Baltimore
They compete for the same fans a la Anaheim and LA. Each made serious runs at Teixeira. I see a bidding war there, which is the reason why things have been so quiet for Prince. I’d bet the Giants and Marlins are investing a lot of effort too, with MIami trying to get extremely innovative.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:07 AM CST reply actions
Why in the fuck would he go to Baltimore?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Currency
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:13 AM CST up reply actions
Where the fuck will Baltimore get all that currency?
Where the fuck is the need? How in the fuck does all of that make sense?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
"Yay, we'll win 74 games this season instead of 70. Awesome."
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
B'more
Current 1B is Chris Davis. They have a young crop of arms that project to peak within 4 years. They have a whole roster of B, C and D hitters. Enormous synergy by adding Prince. B’more is not exactly KC. It’s a good market if they can win.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
but they need $
They have gone after no one of significance this off-season
by Colonel Travis on Jan 19, 2012 12:23 AM CST up reply actions
It's reported they made a big run at Teixeira.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:24 AM CST up reply actions
Well
The money didn’t go anywhere. I think they have been waiting for the big catch. (no pun intended)
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
They made a big run at Tex because he was from there.
The idea that the money just hangs around doesn’t make sense, either.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
No?
Baltimore rolled out a $67M payroll in 2009. In 2011, they were at $87M, and while they don’t have a huge payroll burden this season, their attendance has been under 2 million for 4 years straight.
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Also, that $87M payroll is the second-highest in the last decade.
It was $93M in 2007; from 2001-2006, it was between $50M and $75M. So why would a team that’s far from Fielder away from contention in the AL East spend all that money?
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The Rangers were bankrupt.
You make it sound like the Orioles should just fold it up. Baltimore is a storied baseball town. Extremely loyal fan base.
Sign Prince, and they will come.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
I lived in Baltimore for 8 years.
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
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And more specifically, I am not anywhere close to arguing
that the Orioles “should just fold it up.”
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It's obvious that you don't actually know what "bankrupt" means in this context.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Synergy?
B’more? Did you really need to abbreviate Baltimore?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Maybe his next proposal will involve trading "Vish" to "B'more" so as to create some "synergy."
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
That's silly.
Kansas City might actually win something in the next few years.
Baltimore is basically doomed in that division and I’m sure everyone involved knows it. They’re not smarter than the Jays or the Rays, and they can’t spend like the Yanks and Sox. It’s last place purgatory.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
The Rangers
That’s what people used to say about the Rangers.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
And when they said it, we weren't thinking about signing high dollar free agents.
Or shouldn’t have been.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
The Rangers took several years to rebuild.
Baltimore right now is like Texas 2007. They’re not a good team, outside of a few players, their farm system isn’t great, and they’re in the worst division in baseball to try to contend in.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
Several Years
Look over the past several years of Baltimore transactions and draft picks. Other than Tillman and Matusz disappointing a bit, they’ve made some good moves. Love Dylan Bundy, who projects to be on the “fast track”.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
This is not true.
The Baltimore front office has been excoriated for many of its moves over the last few years.
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indeed
their farm system stinks right now.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 19, 2012 12:32 AM CST up reply actions
I should be fair.
Front office != ownership for many folks, and ownership is the problem.
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Machado and Bundy are good, everything else ...
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
It hasn't been that bad.
Adam Jones hasn’t been as bad as people think. He still projects to be a top tier CF. Reynolds blew away my expectations so far. They locked up Markakis at a great price. Wieters has been a very successful draft pick so far. Dylan Bundy was a huge signing.
Reimold and Bell have disappointed, but the other moves have offset that a bit. I don’t think they’re as far off as people think.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
How is Adam Jones projected to be a top tier CF?!
Really, this is so Pollyanna-ish that I’d almost assume you’re a huge Orioles homer.
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Hyper Athletic 26 Year Old
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/adam-jones-unfinished-product/
I like the way that article describes it.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
We have a hyper-athletic 22 year old named Engel Beltre.
Do you want him?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
That article doesn't project Jones as a top-tier CF.
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To wit:
You’ll note a really high success rate among those players, with only the latter two having failed to develop into fairly consistent quality regulars.
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That's the downside.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:43 AM CST up reply actions
The downside is the latter two.
The upside is “fairly consistent quality regulars.”
There is no projection of Jones becoming a top-tier CF in that article, that I can see.
If you disagree, I’d suggest you email Cameron. Ask him what he thinks the probability of Jones becoming a “top-tier CF” with the Orioles is. Use those words. Report back.
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And it really has been that bad.
Orioles fans are ready to run Angelos out on a rail. The front office has been a mess because of his interference. Their first-round draft picks have been, overall, a disappointment. Their talent development pipeline has been called into question. They have trouble attracting free agents. And the guys they have signed have been aging, over-priced guys.
They’ve been a real mess.
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Wait, what were you expecting from Reynolds?
That he would form a literal black hole on the Orioles, as opposed to a metaphorical one?
by Giant Space Ants on Jan 19, 2012 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
Offensive dive.
Thought his stats would take a dive leaving ’Zona, which is a nice place to hit if you can mash fastballs.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:39 AM CST up reply actions
I thought he'd be horrendous.
And he was decent.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:42 AM CST up reply actions
His overall play defined "meh."
That shouldn’t blow you away under any circumstances, and it’s certainly not something to cite as a positive.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Well
I think defensive WAR is overrated and he wOBA-ed a very respectable .350-ish.
Like I said, I thought he’d be absolutely worthless.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:45 AM CST up reply actions
I saw Reynolds play in the field in 2011.
Did you?
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No.
Admittedly, but I’ve been watching Wright for a long time. Wright is horrendous, and it doesn’t cost the Mets THAT much.
I think good defense is overrated. It’s certainly possible he’s worse than I think, but even the .350 wOBA surprised me. I figured he’d be on his way out of baseball by now.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:49 AM CST up reply actions
How can you possibly know how much it costs the Mets?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I did see him play in the field.
A bunch.
He was horrendous. He cost the O’s runs. Maybe not in line with the 2011 WAR, but he was absolutely terrible out there.
He was not worth his contract in 2011, period. If he performs in 2012 as he did in 2011, I think there’s a very small chance the O’s pay him $11M in 2013, and for very good reason.
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Value and Productive are different.
Plenty of teams win with overpaid players.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 1:10 AM CST up reply actions
Good god, you're brutal.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Baltimore isn't exactly a pitcher's paradise.
Reynolds was terrible in the field this season. We wasn’t good enough at the plate to justify his defense. He cost the O’s $5M in 2011, after giving decent-ish value in 2010, and he’s going to cost them $7.5M in 2012, and either $11M or $500K in 2013.
How in the world was that a good signing for Baltimore?!
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That .3 WAR blew him away.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Are you an Orioles fan or something?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
No.
Do I need to be? I don’t think what I’m saying has been overly homer-ish. I’m not saying they’ve been the model team. The Orioles are a major league franchise that intends to succeed. They aren’t going to sit back for the next 100 years in awe of the Yankees and Red Sox.
This is where I think they will try to make their move, and I think there’s an argument it makes some sense given the current state of the team. Tillman, Matusz, Arrieta, Wieters, Jones and Markakis haven’t set the world on fire, but there’s still a lot of talent there.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:42 AM CST up reply actions
They're 1/3rd the way to a century of being in awe of
by Colonel Travis on Jan 19, 2012 12:44 AM CST up reply actions
Which is why.
….I think they’re big move is coming.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:46 AM CST up reply actions
*their
The Orioles paying big money for Prince Fielder this offseason makes zero sense for their organization. They are trying to build something through young talent and drafting, not paying mega free agents.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Their long-term "intent to succeed" for the next 100 years is irrelevant.
They’re not in a position to do it now, the year after that, or the year after that. Why would they pay $60+ million over those three years to someone who really isn’t helping them do anything in that time span except lose 85 games instead of 90?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
People thought this of the Rangers.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:45 AM CST up reply actions
You've said this twice now.
How is it at all relevant to the Rangers?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
People thought this of everyone at one point
The only way you stop thinking it is when the object of your thinking does something to dig out of the shit hole they’ve dug themselves in. There are no signs Balt. is doing this right now.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 19, 2012 12:47 AM CST up reply actions
Signing Prince....
…..would be doing something.
I think the move adds more incremental value for Baltimore than most other teams.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
Prove that it wouldn't.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:55 AM CST up reply actions
Oh this is good
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
I wish more people knew this conversation was going on.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I'm trying to avoid it.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
It's kind of a colossal bitchslapping
the likes LSB hasn’t seen in a while.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
Just a troll.
A poor one at that.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Color me skeptical.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I can see why.
But I do think his motives are better than that, even if his execution sucks.
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What are you expecting here?
A quantitative analysis factoring the progression of 10 young players and an economic analysis of the Baltimore Orioles?
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 1:20 AM CST up reply actions
that would be awesome
but a better understanding of the latter would be sufficient.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 19, 2012 1:21 AM CST up reply actions
It would take weeks,
if not months to do this sufficiently. How about you do this for any other team to show that he adds more value there?
It’s a low probability outcome with some anecdotal support. Welcome to talking baseball.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 1:24 AM CST up reply actions
Told you.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
If Baltimore loses their mind and signs Fielder
We’re never going to hear the end of it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
WOULD BE GREAT.
ORIOLES LAND A 1B/DH FOR 6-7 YEARS AND A MONUMENTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY WITH NO CONTENTION WINDOW IN SIGHT AND GAROON GETS HIS SHIT PUSHED IN. DOUBLE WHAMMY.
Not true.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 1:27 AM CST up reply actions
Roulette
If a casino decides to start paying 45 to 1 for hitting #21, I bet it because I think it’s good value, you tell me it’s not a good bet, and then I win, I derive no pleasure from saying “I told you so”.
There’s a fair argument for choosing not to take this bet, even if there is “value”.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 1:31 AM CST up reply actions
In other words....
…the probability does not change based on the result.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 1:32 AM CST up reply actions
Even this analogy is bad
Roulette is one of the worst fucking games odds-wise you could ever play.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 19, 2012 1:33 AM CST up reply actions
Um
1) You didn’t get my point.
2) No, it isn’t one of the worst games you can play odds wise. There’s far worse that plenty of pragmatic people play everyday.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 1:35 AM CST up reply actions
um I got your point
And yes, roulette is for idiots. Even more so with double zero – rock bottom bad at that point. I think keno is below it and that’s it.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 19, 2012 1:37 AM CST up reply actions
The Housing Market
At least the folks playing keno are aware they are gambling.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 1:42 AM CST up reply actions
You just explained how it would never happen with Texas above
And now you’re saying – with far less analysis and evidence to back it up – that the O’s will sign him?
by Colonel Travis on Jan 19, 2012 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
I'm saying if I had to bet...
…the Orioles would be one of the teams I’d bet on.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:53 AM CST up reply actions
Let me know the bookie
so I can take the other side of that bet.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 19, 2012 12:57 AM CST up reply actions
Innate
A prediction like this is speculative in nature. You guys are telling me it’s unlikely. Congrats.
There are varying degrees of unlikely. I’m saying it’s more likely than for most single teams out there.
I’m not saying “Orioles odds > rest of major league baseball”. It’s “Orioles odds vs most other single team out there”.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:59 AM CST up reply actions
You said Washington vs. Baltimore.
That’s very nearly “Orioles odds > rest of major league baseball.”
by Giant Space Ants on Jan 19, 2012 1:01 AM CST up reply actions
Most...
…seem to be treating it this way. They’re giving me arguments in the context of major league baseball, not any other 1 team. A couple have mentioned the Rangers, and I’d say the odds of the Orioles signing him vs the Rangers are much higher.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 1:03 AM CST up reply actions
You know what?
That’s probably true. Prince may make the Rangers a 96 win team instead of a 94 win team where he could make Baltimore a 75 win team instead of a 70 win team.
But you still don’t do that because it’s not worth it. It’s called a win curve.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Which means that, in fact,
Fielder’s marginal value would likely be less for the O’s than for the Rangers… at least in 2012.
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See I don't even agree with this
I don’t think the Rangers are that much better at 1B than the O’s have in their lineup to warrant that much difference in his effect.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
That's not how it works.
The curve makes it more difficult to add wins the more you actually have, so even if the Rangers get a bigger upgrade overall from him, it may not be reflected in their win total because of the win curve.
So saying that he is worth only two more wins to us versus four or five for them doesn’t mean that we’re starting from a better place at first base, it means that we’re higher on the curve and wins are more difficult to buy.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Okay, I can dig that.
Is it backed by statistics that winning an incrementally larger amount of games on the upper end is more difficult than at the low end? I just have a hard time grasping how your total wins in a season affects a game by game performance difference given by a player, you know what I mean?
A burden should never be something out of your control.
x
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
It is backed by statistics
that suggest that there is an increasing marginal gain to one win beyond a certain point on the win curve, whereas at certain other lower points on that curve, there is much less marginal gain per win.
I’m probably abusing the language a bit, but it’s late, and a long time since I worked with economics.
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Win Curve
I doubt the Orioles agree with you regarding where they are on the win curve.
Performance is not static.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:54 AM CST up reply actions
Where do you think
the O’s think they are on the win curve?
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There is nobody in that organization that honestly believes they can compete for a division title this season
With or without Prince.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
So good thing...
…they will sign a 27 year old superstar for more than 1 year.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 1:00 AM CST up reply actions
You're running a bit, right?
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
There is really not enough talent there
to justify signing a guy to a huge contract, when that guy is likely to be on the downward slope before the club is really ready to contend.
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From the Sunpapers:
The Orioles aren’t going to give eight or more years or $18 or more million per year to a Fielder. Just isn’t going to happen. Now, if Fielder’s suitors dry up and his demands come down dramatically — which I really doubt will occur — the Orioles’ antennae will go up. But they’re not up now, at last not according to the people I talk to. If they are going to spend for what’s left on the market, it will be for pitching. And that’s far from a certainty.
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Now, there was also this, earlier:
The answer is a "secret mandate" from Orioles owner Peter Angelos. Mr. Angelos wants Fielder, so the Orioles will now pursue him. Duquette says that Orioles fans shouldn’t get their hopes up, but you really never know. Angelos has the money to afford Fielder, so if he really wants him, Baltimore can be a serious suitor.
If this is true, it’s bad news for Duquette. Angelos has been a curse for the O’s franchise.
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Managing Expectations/Posturing
What are they supposed to say?
“We want Fielder bad and will do whatever it takes. He’s really got us by the balls.”
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
Did you read what I just posted.
It actually supports what you were saying.
Good grief, why am I bothering with you?
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I replied to your first post from the press.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:56 AM CST up reply actions
What the hell is this?
No one blasted this guy for being a mets fan on a Rangers blog. No one flamed him for being stupid. And now we’re actually talking to these people? What happened to the angrydome?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
God damnit, this appearance happened about 30 minutes too late.
I was indifferent to the conversation but now I’m sad.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I'm happy to see Yu.
It clouded my judgment.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
This, too.
But you know what? After having done a bit of background reading, I wish I’d done it earlier. It would’ve saved me this entire exchange.
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Angrydome is just so much work
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
Right.
Because the press is always accurate. Andy nobody will give Prince 8 years or more.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
I'm just throwing data points out there.
You, on the other hand, have brought zero evidence to the table. In fact, you’ve been off-base more often than not.
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Ambiguous comments
are better data points than rosters and an adam jones article? Ok.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 1:04 AM CST up reply actions
And then things changed.
What’s changed with the O’s?
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Fuckin' synergy, man.
That’s the key.
by Giant Space Ants on Jan 19, 2012 12:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
B'more's got the synergy, but we got the Vish...
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
He's going to be a Ranger for slightly more than the deal he turned down from MIL
6/1328 with an opt out
Defending Big D Check it out
Twitter
"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
The AAV on that is fucking crazy.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
lol
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
If JD can get him for $221.33 a year I'll shit a chicken.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I just really fucking like Texas, man.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Another interesting snip about Yu's contract.
an opt-out clause after five years if he hits certain performance thresholds.
I wonder if the performance threshold is a Cy Young award?
Also, the Rangers are on track to have a payroll of 120-125M. Respectable, especially for the talent.
As good as Prince Fielder would've looked in a 4XL Rangers' uniform, we all know you win with pitching. -- JJT
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
EG said it was CY votes
The deal is a six-year deal worth $60 million, but a player option can be triggered by multiple elite-level finishes in Cy Young voting. General manager Jon Daniels declined to elaborate on exactly how the option would work.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 19, 2012 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
Last Rangers SP...
Who’s the last Rangers SP to win a Cy Young? Just curious, because I imagine its very difficult to do there.
Most arguments are really about context.
by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:22 AM CST up reply actions
But it's a great rotation with a lot of synergy
We signed Yu, so the Cy Youngs will come
A burden should never be something out of your control.
"I'm a Cowboys fan. And I hope they miss the playoffs and get the better draft pick. This team sucks. We're saving ourselves the embarrassment too. That's a major +" by JDT217 on Dec 26, 2011
x
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
as an angels fan
im really surprised that the deal is only $60/6yrs.. i was thinking it must be above the $$ the angels spent on wilson.. the fielder issues must have scared yu’s neg team.. haha nice strategy.. now, game on!
by letsgolal on Jan 19, 2012 6:10 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
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