This Day in LSB History
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 19, 2012 3:00 PM CST
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Two years ago today, the Rangers officially announced the signing of Colby Lewis to a two year deal with an option year, and I contemplated whether Lewis would be able to adequately replace Kevin Millwood in the 2010 Rangers.
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That thread was a beating...
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Not as bad as I was expecting
only 120+ comments.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 19, 2012 3:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Let's play "Guess The Commenter"!
Make no mistake, no matter how Lewis does in 2010, this (and the entire off-season has been) is a JD deal all the way.
JD loves pick up a player or pitcher and then require them to do something they either didn’t do last year or has never done in their career.
Colby Lewis turns 31 this season, has been in 5 different major league organizations and has a career 6.45 ERA in 217 IPs in The Show.
Yet, he’s been given nearly $ 6 million and a spot in our rotation by JD.
This should end well.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Matchstick?
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 19, 2012 3:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
On the fence...
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 19, 2012 3:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
It ended well. He's right on that.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
by AceJC on Jan 19, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
As that chick told Zuckerberg in Social Network
The Internet is written in pen.
"A lot of people may not know this, but I happen to be quite famous." - Sam "MayDay" Malone
He was very skeptical that the Rangers could outscout others in Japan
That has repeated itself.
This should end well.
Hmmm. This doesn't seem very fence-sitter-y
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Outlaw Josey Wales
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it" - Thomas Paine
by Eric Prince on Jan 19, 2012 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
I think that was rhetorical
"A lot of people may not know this, but I happen to be quite famous." - Sam "MayDay" Malone
And I was playing the part
of Chairman of the Department of the obvious.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it" - Thomas Paine
by Eric Prince on Jan 21, 2012 12:47 AM CST up reply actions
I would say that he did a pretty adequate job
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 19, 2012 3:04 PM CST via mobile reply actions
the Colby signing was a better deal
but let’s just say I’m a bit more excited about our new japanese import
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
fun to look back
…think instead something in the Millwood or Scott Feldman ballpark, 5-6 K/9 and a 2:1 K/BB ratio, instead. But with the defense the Rangers will be running out there, that should be good enough for an ERA in the mid- to high-4 range, and if you can get 170-180 innings of that, then you’ve got a bargain, given the contract Lewis is getting.
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jan 19, 2012 3:10 PM CST reply actions
Millwood was surprisingly okay last year in COL
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
Cahill routinely looks very smart in these old threads.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Was so disappointed when I saw his picture and learned he was in his 40's
The internet failed me that day.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 19, 2012 3:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Really?
I haven’t seen him. I would have thought 60 or so.
by Black Francis on Jan 19, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Yup
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
I very much appreciate all the kind words.
Without a job that keeps me in front of a computer, I just have less online time in me these days, and something had to go. With the tremendous success and growth of the LSB community, routine 1000 comment posts just requires more online time investment than I have.
Plus, these days, is there really much to say, other than, “if JD did it, it’s probably the right thing”? As a longtime Ranger fan, I can’t remember ever thinking to myself, “if I disagree with the Rangers move, it probably means I’m wrong”.
These days I’m spending time watching a dozen nephews and nieces kick ass and get ready to take over. I went to the High School Football State Championships to see Lake Travis kick ass and take names for the fifth time in a row, and I saw their weightlifting facilities that an NFL team could work out at and not miss anything. Saw another nephew run cross country, and helped a niece with a trebuchet for a physics class. Also getting back in shape after decades of expense account meals and a lot of desk sitting.
At any rate, hope everyone is healthy and happy and enjoying life! I can’t guarantee I’ll read all the replies, but if anyone needs to get in touch with me, @dj_cahill works on twitter. I may or may not go to a LSB thingie at RBiA, depending on schedule and travel. Take care!
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
by DJCahill on Jan 20, 2012 4:31 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Skepticism
Colby Lewis seems like somebody who should be considered AAA depth and nobody that you’d be giving $ 6 million and the ball every 5 days.
If he was really good, more teams would have been after him and he would have been a helluva lot more expensive. That is, unless the Rangers Pacific Rim Job knows more than everybody else.
I’m not a fan of Brandon McCarthy at all but he’s a better pitcher than Lewis. I’d rather see Harrison, Holland or CJ being given a chance to start than watching a 31 year old Cobra Lewis throw down a 6.00 ERA while killing our bully every 5 days.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Heh
This was in response to my comment that the Rangers just might know what they were doing, given that Lewis had been in the organization before, and that Texas had a solid Pacific Rim scouting operation.
Me: 1
JW: 0
"Those cocksuckers asking me if I thought we were gonna go up there and try to work his fuckin’ pitch count ‘cause he’s on three fuckin’ days rest…you know what I told those cocksuckers? He pitch ball, ball cross plate, we gonna knock the shit out of it."
- Wash
The one thing I will say about Colby
is that I thought those conversions of peripherals from NPB to MLB were laughably optimistic. Turns out, much closer to the mark than I expected.
Robbie mentioned that about the ZiPS projection of Colby and Darvish.
Apparently ZiPS projected Colby to do very well… which in turn makes you excited about it’s predictions for Darvish.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
22 WAR over 5 years.
4.4 to 4.5 per year as the median.
The 85th percentile was like 27 WAR over 5 years.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
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"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Thanks
I could have swore that on twitter he projected 169 IP for the last year. I wonder if he meant that as the projection for the first year for the pessimistic. Because otherwise, I don’t see how 169 IP gets you to 4.3 WAR.
But bringing it back to Cameron, that is a very Derek Lowe like 5 years.
TBiA is a really good hitters’ park – a 3.46 ERA, over 169 innings, is about 43 runs above replacement (5.74, which is I believe the highest in baseball – lots of teams are in the 4s).
by D.Szymborski on Jan 19, 2012 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
CHONE was also really high on him.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
Oh Yu......
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
It's definitely up there
akin to the Napoli acquisition.
Hopefully Nathan is this year’s version of those two.
Who else signed from the DR...
BenBadler Ben Badler
People who know how papers get manipulated in the DR are afraid this could get ugly. Don’t be surprised to hear another big name caught.
Anyone got a list?
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Whoa, just saw this story
If you’re going to make up a name, though, Fausto Carmona is an excellent name. 31 years old, yikes.
I have this fun thought of Carmona reading Goethe in his spare time
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
Carmona has been arrested for using a false name today
For realz.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
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According to a report by broadcaster Yancen Pujols, Indians’ right-hander Fausto Carmona was arrested in his native Dominican Republic for using a false identity.
The story was passed along by Jorge Arangure of ESPN Deportes.
https://twitter.com/#!/YancenPujols/status/160086057545760768
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
they're coming for you, Garoon
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Not to be an ass hole like this
but Adrian Beltre wouldn’t be the most shocking, based on how successful he was at such a young age. That being said, he’s just as successful as an old guy, so that’s pointless speculation.
Rangers players: Cruz, Beltre, Feliz,
The Dodgers were penalized for signing Beltre when he was too young.
There was a big stink… if there’s any player you know how old he is… it’s Adrian Beltre.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I meant Ogando
because he had his papers checked out thoroughly after the visa scandal. I think they even caught a name change
Some intersting names..
Francisco Liriano
Melky Cabrera
Michael Pineda
and my personal favorite to get caught
José Reyes
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Isn't he from The Netherlands?
Gasp! What about Jurickson?
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 19, 2012 4:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
CURACAO!
ARUBA!
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
So any player caught falsifying their vital information (such as name, age)...
The teams would be within their rights to void their contract, right?
Carmona had a fake birthday of 12/7/83
Looking at 83 and 84 birthdays, there are about 50. Of those, here are some interesting names:
Joaquin Arias – not really a big name
Ubaldo Jiminez
Hanley Ramirez
Jose Reyes
Edinson Volquez – though I don’t think he’d care about the “n” so much in his fake name
But my dark horse is Robinson Cano (’82 birthday)
Yeah
if not one guy, then same service or something. And same birth year as a proxy for when they left the island. Not everybody leaves when they are the same age but I imagine that if the other names are linked, it is because they all got their fake papers at the same time.
I also forgot to mention Melky Cabrera. Not a huge name but an 83 birthday and he has the same place of birth, Santo Domingo, as Carmona.
Smart approach.
I think you’re probably right. Of those guys, the one that seems most likely to be older than he says is Ubaldo, but I obviously have no idea.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Volquez
He’s already been found to have used a fake name- used to go by Julio Reyes.
"Those cocksuckers asking me if I thought we were gonna go up there and try to work his fuckin’ pitch count ‘cause he’s on three fuckin’ days rest…you know what I told those cocksuckers? He pitch ball, ball cross plate, we gonna knock the shit out of it."
- Wash
Happened back in 2003
"Those cocksuckers asking me if I thought we were gonna go up there and try to work his fuckin’ pitch count ‘cause he’s on three fuckin’ days rest…you know what I told those cocksuckers? He pitch ball, ball cross plate, we gonna knock the shit out of it."
- Wash
Arias is actually several thousand years old
by mtobo on Jan 19, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I saw him on Ancient Aliens.
"It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard."
- Nolan Ryan
he was in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom as well
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Cano's father
was former professional player, Cano also went to school in the US until high school. It’s a zero chance he isn’t 29.
Pujols
He went to high school in the US but he was born in DR. He’s older than 32.
"A lot of people may not know this, but I happen to be quite famous." - Sam "MayDay" Malone
If it is Pujols, then it is kind of a let down
I mean, it is a big name, but we all pretty much now he’s older than 32.
But I also don’t see how he would get implicated in the same scandal as someone 5 years younger and he might not have been on the island when these fake credentials were obtained.
Given his new contract
It would be wonderful.
"A lot of people may not know this, but I happen to be quite famous." - Sam "MayDay" Malone
If it came forth, they might be able to get out of the contract.
Paying him $25M + for ages 37-42 is enough, for me.
WORST
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 19, 2012 3:51 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
SIGNING
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
PENIS
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
WHIP
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
MONEY
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
WORD
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 19, 2012 7:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I wonder what Edwin Jackson signs for
At the start of the off-season, I would have guaranteed you that he’d be overpaid. Now, there doesn’t appear to be a market for him.
3/$33
Orioles.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I like that guess
I also think the Nats might be in on him. I’m just surprised he hasn’t signed yet, or that we haven’t at least heard rumors.
I think trading for Gio
To go with Strausberg and Zimmerman filled their quota.
I think they have Wang too.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I hope you didn't hurt yourself on that stretch
"A lot of people may not know this, but I happen to be quite famous." - Sam "MayDay" Malone
I'm not going to pretend to know what their quota is
But if I’m a fan… acknowledging that Strasburg is probably limited, and seeing that John Lannan is still going to be starting for the team, I’d want Oswalt or Jackson.
So much synergy in B'more these days.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Sliding scale, brah.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
There have been a ton of "losers" this offseason
Seems like more than I remember in the past.
@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.
There are a whole swath of teams that have done nothing to make themselves better
I guess they are just accepting rebuilding?
More than any year I can remember, all the rich teams are out of the market
Boston, NYY, NYM, LAD, Cubs, White Sox, Tigers
Just think what the landscape would be like if the Marlins hadn’t decided to be big players this off-season.
Byrd trade anyone?
Byrd has lost 40 pounds this offseason.
Byrd, 34, has added a martial arts workout called Muay Thai (pronounced “moy tie”) to his offseason program. The intense sessions, which he does three to four times a week, plus a dramatic change in his diet has helped the Cubs center fielder go from 255 pounds, which he weighed at the end of last season, to 215 now. That’s the same weight he was his senior year in high school.
Best shape of his life.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
by Brad on Jan 19, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
so awesome
Spring Training so close now
by elvis1isking on Jan 19, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
I'm down
but I’m always down with the real Byrd man
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Bring the Byrd flapping back
I want O’Day back too.
by dumdum000333 on Jan 19, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
walk off grand slam against the Yankees
anyone else remember that?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
Hay-ul yes.
Always loved that guy in a Rangers uni.
"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH
by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 19, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
Heck yeah
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 19, 2012 7:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's been one-upped though
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 19, 2012 7:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Did anyone else see this?
LSB getting a nod over at Deadspin today
http://deadspin.com/5877384/oh-yu-a-collection-of-awful-yu-darvish-headline-puns
That's a pretty good Economist piece on him
Nothing new but got everything right and hit the points that matter
One of the beautiful things about baseball
one can be short, fat, and still hit like a mother fucker and consequently, be able to tell the ever-growing fatty-haters of the world to go fuck themselves.
"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH
by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 19, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
Greg Luzinski!
I’m an idiot
by RangerMad on Jan 19, 2012 6:52 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
heh
"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH
by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 19, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
Damn right
Me and Prince Fielder are pretty much the same. Except he’s black, and can actually hit a baseball. But we are about the same height and weight.
"Those cocksuckers asking me if I thought we were gonna go up there and try to work his fuckin’ pitch count ‘cause he’s on three fuckin’ days rest…you know what I told those cocksuckers? He pitch ball, ball cross plate, we gonna knock the shit out of it."
- Wash
I loved the Colby signing (first comment!) and my love grew proportionately with the JW hate
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
I'm legitimately amazed I wasn't in that thread.
I was obsessed with him.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
Does anyone know:
Where and/or when one can watch the press conference tomorrow?
by EmmEssGee on Jan 20, 2012 12:04 AM CST via Android app reply actions
The Prince/Yu one?
No idea.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 20, 2012 8:36 AM CST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
It's at 7, I think
not sure if it will be televised.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
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