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Friday morning Rangers things

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Jeff Wilson writes that Ranger fans are clamoring for Prince Fielder, but notes that signing Fielder would reduce the team's flexibility, and possibly take at bats away from Mike Napoli.

Randy Galloway thinks there's a 50/50 chance that the Rangers sign Fielder, and heaps praise on "Bob and Ray" for their willingness to speak softly and carry a big wallet.

Prashanth Francis looks at the pros and cons of signing Prince Fielder, and focuses in particular on whether Fielder has growth potential with his power.

T.R. Sullivan poses some questions (which he then answers) regarding the signing of Yu Darvish.

Richard Durrett talks to Mike Napoli, who says he has started running again after injuring his ankle, is impressed with what he's sign of Yu Darvish on tape, and hopes to avoid an arbitration hearing with the Rangers.

Behind the paywall, Gerry Fraley writes that the Rangers have had a bad history with their previous seven Asian pitchers. I think the implication is that we shouldn't expect Yu Darvish to be successful, since he's Asian, but it is behind the paywall, and I'm not really sure what Hideki Irabu's track record, or Chan Ho Park's, with the Rangers has to do with Darvish.

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Wow

Racist much?

by Aircooled on Jan 20, 2012 10:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You are new here aren't you?

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 20, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

He's a no talent assclown

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

iknowright?

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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Jan 20, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Also a bad person

with horrible taste in music.

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by vfn on Jan 20, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Per the lack of flexibility with Napoli,

I would be more worried if they don’t plan on him being the starting catcher this year. 120 or so starts behind the plate is plenty of time to get enough AB’s.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 20, 2012 9:32 AM CST reply actions  

If he hits like last season again though

You want his bat in 150+ games rather than just 120.

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Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Jan 20, 2012 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Oliver projections

is there anywhere that I can get them free?

by Goyogringo on Jan 20, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think so,

though there might be some posts on the internet with specific player projections. Also, I wonder if Fangraphs won’t post them sometime in the future

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Jan 20, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Big if.

You can still work him in there somewhere.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 20, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

"Even if he does..."

Should read as, “Since almost assuredly will regress…”

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Without really looking

how many guys play over 150 games at any position in a year?

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 20, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I can think of one very prominent example at 1B...

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by JDT217 on Jan 20, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Well Young, Beltre, and Fielder are three that come to the top of my head right away

And Elvis should start getting to that level this year IMO barring injury of course

by bigsteve on Jan 20, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I think the rangier positions require more rest [CF, SS, 2B]

Beltre is just a freak.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Good luck.

I don’t see it happening with Wash as manager.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

He played 150 last year

148 the year before and 145 his rookie year. I don’t see why Wash wouldn’t play him for at least 150 games there this season.

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Jan 20, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

But...

Wouldn’t you be willing to give up 25 games of Naps bat if it meant 150 games of Prince instead of Moreland?

by Topgun22 on Jan 20, 2012 10:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I think I've been laughed at for suggesting anything more than 100 games behind the plate.

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by JDT217 on Jan 20, 2012 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I would be very surprised if he did more than 100 as a catcher.

He’s 30 years old… he’s never done that much of a work load and he’s missed time to injury for at least the past two seasons.

Then you factor the Texas summers in and it’s hard for me to see him doing that.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

But does his injury history have anything specifically to do with the physical aspects of catching?

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by JDT217 on Jan 20, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Does it matter?

If he gets hurt swinging the bat or playing catcher… he’s going to miss time.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Ah. I just didn't know whether you thought his prior injuries exposed him to a higher risk of injury because of the demands of playing catcher.

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by JDT217 on Jan 20, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Do you think 120 is out of the question?

I could see it unless Ron really wants to get Torrealba AB’s.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 20, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think it necessarily should be, but I'm not the team trainer and really have no idea how he'd hold up.

The fact that he’s 30 doesn’t really concern me, because there aren’t nearly the number of miles on his quads as 30-year old guys who have caught full time since they came up.

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by JDT217 on Jan 20, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

We agree.

He’s one of those cliched ’young 30" in regard to being a catcher.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 20, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Even still...

A 30 year old body, regardless of mileage, will not heal and recuperate at the level of a 25 year old body.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

So no one over 25

can catch over 100 games in Texas?

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 20, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying that.

I’m just saying it’s one of many things to consider. Every player is different… but as a rule, I would expect it to be more difficult the older a player gets.

That’s not the only reason or even the main reason… but it is one of the reasons.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

x

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 20, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes... he's clearly the baseline we should use for all catchers. ;)

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by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Ugh.

This is stupid.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Napoli

has averaged 70 starts at catcher during his career, and 58 over the last 2 years. I think TX is dead serious about keeping him a half-time catcher at best. They truly believe that his body type, coupled with the heat, would seriously wear him down. You might not accept it but that appears to be their stance. So, I would expect Torri and Naps to get about 80 starts each.

by Goyogringo on Jan 20, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I think thats the initial plan

But if we signed a guy like Prince I think the plan could be altered to give Napoli 100-110 starts knowing his possible starts at 1B/DH would be limited

by bigsteve on Jan 20, 2012 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Who said I was accepting anything?

If you sign Prince, you limit your roster flexibility. Young has to DH. Cruz and Hamilton have to play the OF and Napoli has to catch to get your optimal line up on the field. If that is going to be the case, Napoli better catch way more than 80 games.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 20, 2012 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

it's a long season

how often was our optimal lineup on the field together last year? Either way, our team would be better with Fielder than without Fielder.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 20, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

They'll play Young at more than DH.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Where will they put him?

And who sits that day. I understand you don’t run your optimal line up out there 162 times, but it does pigeonhole guys a bit more than last year.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 20, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

A bit, yes.

But let’s not act like they won’t have injuries.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I wasn't acting that way at all.

I said to field your optimal lineup. Last year you could rotate the DH spot and still have the same guys in the lineup. That doesn’t work as well with Fielder. And I still want Fielder. I’m just spitballin’.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 20, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

If we sign Fielder

And that causes Napoli to miss some games at DH/1B then thats a great problem to have. That means Kinsler, Beltre, and Fielder stayed healthy all year and Young was stuck at DH.

by bigsteve on Jan 20, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

bigsteve

You really think MY will be stuck at DH all year with Washington managing?

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 20, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Gerry Fraley you useless motherfucker.

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 9:33 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

He looks like someone who likes to hang around playgrounds.

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by Ryin A on Jan 20, 2012 9:36 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Oh, yes. Comparing Yu to CHoP or Irabu.

I’m sure we should expect Matt Moore to be a bust because, hey, so many white American pitchers have failed to have success in the big leagues.

by RangersfaninROK on Jan 20, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

He has the right to compare

He’s just trying to cool down the “Yu will win 20 games every year” expections that some have. Just because he threw out stats of the the previous 7 pitchers doesn’t mean anything. Like said ^ in the post, it just seems to be an implication

by meatbonelefty on Jan 20, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

An implication of what, that's the point.

If you want to temper expectations, there are a lot better ways to do it than ridiculous comparisons based on racism.

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Well

Everyone compares and is there is absolutely no racism in his article and if you think it is then Espn and MLB network are extremely racist. We’ve had 7 Asian players in here and they haven’t had success. He wrote about it… He’s not an idiot for writing it.

by meatbonelefty on Jan 20, 2012 10:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes, he absolutely is.

Because it’s a totally meaningless point. What could Chan Ho Park POSSIBLY have to do with Yu Darvish other than that they are both Asian? What is the point of comparing them other than that they are Asian?

It is lazy, terrible reporting and nothing more.

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Matt Moore is going to struggle for his first three years in the league.

Because Matt Harrison certainly did.

They’re both left handed, came from AAA (which isn’t The Show), throw hard and are named Matt.

Give it a few years and maybe Matt Moore will have a breakout year.

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by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Channelling?

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Jan 20, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

They aren't even from the same country

on the giant continent of Asia. It’s pretty weak.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 20, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Shhh, don't tell Fraley.

Or that Park came here after having already pitched in MLB for a few years, not through a posting process.

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Asian stereotypes...

That’s his observational wit on Day 2 of the Yu Darvish signing story?

Sad. Fraley is a “pro writer” - who gets paid? What a punk-ass.

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by 3Bagger on Jan 20, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

He could write for 2 Broke Girls.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Also

the 7 Asian players here haven’t had any success? Really?

by ab03 on Jan 20, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

I see

4 synonyms in that post.

by cracker1743 on Jan 20, 2012 10:03 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

You expected more from Fraley?

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by lamron on Jan 20, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

As far as I can deduce, we must have a few penguins posting on LSB

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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Jan 20, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I am not a penquin

Reminds me of some song that starts with I am not a

by Mark from OC on Jan 20, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Being kind of lazy today..

But does anyone know the dates to sign up for the Opening Day ticket opportunity?

by kchorton on Jan 20, 2012 9:45 AM CST reply actions  

Grain of Salt

From Armen Williams a producer from 105.3 RAGE show:

@armenontheair According to @T_Kaufmann, there are reports that Fielder to #Rangers is a done deal. Hang on tight, this could be another fun day.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......

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by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 20, 2012 9:46 AM CST reply actions  

That comes from WFAA report that may have meant to talk about Darvish.

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

ahh...my apologies

Move along then.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......

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by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 20, 2012 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

wait, what?

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by Conjunction on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Look below.

This thing is getting echo chambered out of control.

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I just wet myself.

Just a few drops.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 20, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

x
Todd Kaufmann @T_Kaufmann
@SportsPlum71 Someone tweeted earlier that WFAA Ch. 8 is reporting Prince Fielder is a done deal. Not sure I’m buying that just yet

Thad Levine is on MLB Network Radio right now talking about an extension for Hamilton. I really think this Fielder story is false.

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

no kidding

please, don’t be stupid. don’t extend Hamilton. he’s not worth it.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

x
Todd Kaufmann @T_Kaufmann
Just to clarify, saw tweet this morning from someone saying WFAA Ch. 8 reported Prince Fielder being a done deal. Don’t have more than that

Move along, nothing to see here.

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Nope, that was definitely FOX

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by Conjunction on Jan 20, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Heh

it was all made up. I checked with our morning EPs; nothing of the sort was said.

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by Conjunction on Jan 20, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

OK

This makes no sense to me.
Be right back, making some phone calls.

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by Conjunction on Jan 20, 2012 9:52 AM CST reply actions  

There are always tought choices..i lived thru the Cowboys

hanging on the old players to long..Josh is simply a business decision..if he prices himself up so high Rangers have to make a choice..Long term..Prince is a better fit for team..and I remember how much our catching spot had sucked for so long..Napoli needs to get done.Prince..then start on Ian

by capps1 on Jan 20, 2012 9:54 AM CST reply actions  

So... What happened to that Prince Fielder tour Heyman was talking about?

He’s always right about stuff. Wouldn’t want him to be wrong here.

by sprite on Jan 20, 2012 9:55 AM CST reply actions  

Last stop was Cool River last Friday.

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by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Evidently, huh?

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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Jan 20, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

MLB.com cancelled my Darvish jersey order.

Meh.

It’s for the best… it’s better for the Rangers if I buy it through the pro shop… of course there’s a hassle element as well…

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by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 9:59 AM CST reply actions  

Did you do a custom one?

@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.

by TargetField on Jan 20, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I did the day he signed. But they had it in the “non player” list and cancelled it because he’s listed as a player.

Of course they haven’t actually updated the player list so you can order one yet.

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by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I want one too but I might wait until I fly down for opening weekend

@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.

by TargetField on Jan 20, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

oh, a customer one. I see now.

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by Mike E on Jan 20, 2012 10:10 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

custom*

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by Mike E on Jan 20, 2012 10:11 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Are Uptown Dallas or Downtown Ft. Worth

Closer than Arlington? Those might be better options.

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by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 20, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

the uptown one is nice.. and ask the guy about ticket specials.. that old guy that

works in there is cool as shit.

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by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

It is?

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by Mike E on Jan 20, 2012 10:08 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Ugh.. Adam , can't even grant a dying man's wish

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by Mike E on Jan 20, 2012 10:07 AM CST via Android app reply actions  

Wut

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by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

OK

we didn’t report anything on Fielder. I don’t know where this is coming from.

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by Conjunction on Jan 20, 2012 10:10 AM CST reply actions  

The tradings

you should do them with me.

by sprite on Jan 20, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I like this line from Galloway...
But for those of us who would have made Fielder the first choice, it wouldn’t have been the wise choice, simply because the timing on Fielder is now perfect, and that timing was not perfect until now.

by octoberty on Jan 20, 2012 10:12 AM CST reply actions  

I enjoyed this Galloway article more than any of his I've read since I was a kid.

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by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Except he used the antiquated term--"Big Wallet"

rather than the new accepted term—Moneypenis™

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by Atticus F on Jan 20, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

This seems...suspect.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

x
@ProspectInsider Unless the Los Angeles Dodgers are a viable option, I’m betting Prince Fielder agrees to a deal by Tuesday

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 10:21 AM CST reply actions  

He wants to celebrate with cheap tacos?

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by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I do, I do!

Jarritos on me!

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by jam0152 on Jan 20, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Per Nolan on GAC yesterday

They haven’t talked specifics with Fielder yet. Just generalities comparing him and his contract with R.Howard.

Doesn’t know what the price will be or would have to be. But definitely interested if the dollars make sense.

by Sam Elliott's 'stache on Jan 20, 2012 10:23 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

hmm, 5/125 for Fielder?

I’m not sure how I feel about that.

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by Gdawg on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Not 6

I wonder about 4, after the Rangers posted.

by ab03 on Jan 20, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I doubt it.

Even if it was a virtual lock the Rangers would sign Yu — if you think the Rangers would do 5/$125M, and you’re not happy with that, why not wait to see if the Rangers actually land their Darfish?

(Sorry, couldn’t resist.)

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by Snark on Jan 20, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's right

what I said doesn’t make sense.

by ab03 on Jan 20, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

It's pretty bad

But really this whole week is what Chicago winter’s about. You’ve probably seen more snow in Boston but it’s the cold that is unbearable. 10 degrees is no joke

by ab03 on Jan 20, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

-12 this morning

I was cold

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by TargetField on Jan 20, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

What Nolan actually said was Ryan Howard's contract over 8 to 10 years.

He specifically said, “Now you’re talking $200M” and then balked at it.

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by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't blame Nolan in the least.

We don’t want Prince for Pujols money

by RangersfaninROK on Jan 20, 2012 10:31 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Then definitely no

I’m still clinging on to the hope that we can sign Prince on a 3 year deal.

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by Gdawg on Jan 20, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh. Nevermind.

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by JDT217 on Jan 20, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I feel hell to the fuck yes.

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Duuude. If we can get Prince for a Howard-like deal, we do it pronto.

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by JDT217 on Jan 20, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

How great would it be if the rangers called the press conference to officially introduce Yu

And as JD and co. and Yu walk out to the podium right behind them is Prince and JD just has this little smile on his face.

by bigsteve on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM CST reply actions  

OH HEY.

Didn’t see you guys out there. Listen, while I’m here I might as well put on this XXXXL jersey sitting right here…

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

hahaha

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by Rodney on Jan 20, 2012 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

lol

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by Mike E on Jan 20, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

This is the scenario

I’ve been picturing all week.
Especially The Ninja’s Fuck The Angels grin.

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by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 20, 2012 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

And then JD pulls out a Trollface mask

Puts it on, and says, “Hey, DiPoto, u mad?”

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by RCCook on Jan 20, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I would die if that happened.

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by boomer1 on Jan 20, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Along with absolutely no leaks before it happens to the twitterverse.

Just BOOM… surprise!

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by e2drummer on Jan 20, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Our local writers would be sofa king pissed.

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

No grin.

Just a straight poker face with a pair of Ray Bans on.

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by TXHC on Jan 20, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

#THELEGEND

is #10 on Mayo’s Catcher prospect rankings. #TheLegend is growing. LINK

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by e2drummer on Jan 20, 2012 10:32 AM CST reply actions  

My fake Prince contract based on Galloway's comment:

2012: $12M
2013: $23M
2014: $24M
-——————- Player Opt Out Option
2015: $25M
-——————- Team Opt Out Option ($8M buyout)
2016: $25M
2017: $25M

Total: 4 years $92M guaranteed, 6 years $134M possible

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by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:36 AM CST reply actions  

Boras doesn't let that happen.

I would love it, though.

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

It would take a Fielder doing a Weaver...

And telling his agent to do it.

But… it’s still a pretty interesting deal. If he wants to opt out after 3 years… he only earned $59M or $19.7M AAV from the Rangers… very likely to have been surplus value.

And if the Rangers opt out, he earned $23M AAV for four years… and is only 31 years old for another contract.

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by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

we can dream

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by shock00 on Jan 20, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Prince

I think Prince has accomplished enough to have his cake and eat it too. (no fat jokes)

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 20, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

So had Jered Weaver.

This isn’t about making a contract that Boras wants for his client.

It’s about a fake one that might be something the Rangers were willing to do.

The Rangers are unlikely to sign Fielder period. The Rangers have also spent enough and have enough talent to take a hard line and not cave.

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by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Prince > Weaver

Weaver is great, and his value has increased since his contract, but Prince is worth more than Weaver has ever been worth. As much as I admire your optimism, it’s hard for me to imagine he needs to make any concessions.

Prince has been so good we take him for granted. The start of his career is historically good.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 20, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

This is invaluable.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 20, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Please read these words.

THIS ISN’T OPTIMISM. :)

I do not think Prince will sign here. This is a MADE UP contract based on a comment from an article referenced above mentioning theoretical opt outs.

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by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Okie dokes.

back to back WS trips. The hot new import. prospects up the wazoo. You guys are fine.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 20, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Tweaks

Remove the team opt out and make the player opt out available each year after 2014. in exchange for that, you remove a year from the end of the contract. That’s the only version of this I’d consider realistic.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 20, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I would

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 10:47 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

im probably going to sound like an idiot for this

i think if you add incentives to the first 4 years for say 10 million it would make the deal perfect for both parties

things like leading league in home runs, gold gloves ( HA), and like 130 rbi… stuff that is attainable but exceptional.

Maybe even through in a vesting option with some ridiculous goal like 2 MVP or 1 MVP and 2 2nd or 3rd places… things like that…

you would end up with a 7 year 150+ contract that really isnt 150+

by Mantis Be Praised on Jan 20, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

i tend to agree

i tossed the rbi in there because i didnt want just 2 examples
I mainly mean attainable but exceptional performance for incentives

by Mantis Be Praised on Jan 20, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Should totally be based on runs

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 10:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

saber and incentives

I doubt anyone has incentives or vesting options based on WAR. JD structured Yu’s opt out based on an award in which Evan Grant has a vote. Incentives based on RBI can’t be worse than that.

by JDavidd on Jan 20, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

not creative enough

not creative enough. Somehow need to defer ~$10M from 2012 to back ob contract. How about making 2015 a player opt out but he still gets $10M. Or something like that.

by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Make your own and show us.

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by Brad on Jan 20, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Not him...

but here’s what I’d say.

6/135 with options that could make it 8/180

2012: $15
2013: $20
2014: $25
2015: $25
2016: $25
PLAYER OPT OUT
2017: $25
2018: $23 (Team option becomes a player option based on PAs in 2017)
2019: $22 (Same)

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by vfn on Jan 20, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

James Mason

James Mason

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by Ryin A on Jan 20, 2012 10:51 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

DAMN YU

/beatmetoit

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by Rodney on Jan 20, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

If you get a team opt out

then you aren’t getting a discount year.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

The buyout clause is compensating him for loss of future salary.

You’re asking Prince to take on significant risk, here.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

I think those last two years on match's deal are worthless anyway

I dont really see anyway he sees them. Either he opts out at three years in which he goes and signs a 5-7 year guaranteed deal with someone after bashing in Arlington.

Or he doesn’t opt out due to poor performance, whether due to injury or declining talent, and the team opts out after year 4 and pays the 8 mil buyout fee which brings his total compensation to 96 mil for 4 years and would likely be a pretty severe overpay.

Basically if he hasn’t performed well enough to opt out and get a big deal but hasn’t performed bad enough for the club to opt out then hes making about what he should make or is worth. I dont see how Prince takes on anymore risk than the Rangers do in this scenario

by bigsteve on Jan 20, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

cool

I can get done with work and watch it

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by NothinG on Jan 20, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

i'm excited about this

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by shock00 on Jan 20, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

8 hours to sign Prince and get him to Arlington

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 10:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Son of a bitch I'll be at work.

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by TXHC on Jan 20, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

One of those has a mistake

The Rangers went to Philly this year, not the other way around.

by Perfect Zero on Jan 20, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Yup

No way I would have missed going to a Doc Halladay or Cliffly start in Arlington.

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by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 20, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I think its funny how everyone is drooling over Verlanders 2011 season

Saying it was such a legendary year, when he didnt even have the best year for SP in ’11 (Halladay).

Heck, it wasn’t even HIS best year (’09).

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 10:56 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

x

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1303&position=P

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=8700&position=P

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 10:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

250 IP at that pace.

That’s pretty incredible.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 20, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Halladays WAR was 1.3 higher

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:02 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Verlander did it in the AL.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Does WAR account for quality of opponents?

Even if it doesn’t, Verlander pitched in the AL in ’09.

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:04 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm just saying

that there is a fair argument that what Verlander did was more impressive.

WAR is park and league adjusted.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

He had a great year

But I think it’s getting a little too much credit. He had a typical best in the league year. NOT a legen(wait for it)dary. Legendary.

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

..year

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I do not think he should have won MVP, if that's what you mean.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think any pitcher should ever win the MVP

I’m just tired of people acting like it was the greatest year ever. It wasn’t. A really, really great year, but not an all time great.

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, I lean towards this as well.

Though I can see the argument that WAR might underrate IP.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

WAR is all-powerful

You will submit to it’s authority

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

'Twas a really, really, really great year. But not a really, really, really, really great year.

It was superlative, but not transcendent.

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by JDT217 on Jan 20, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

9/10, not 10/10

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

When I was 17...

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by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Finish the dang story

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He drank some very good beer he purchased with a fake ID

His name was Brian McGee
He stayed up listening to Queen
When he was 17

(Simpsons doing Sinatra is pretty awesome)

by ab03 on Jan 20, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 20, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I knew it was park adjusted

I wasn’t sure about league adjusted

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

We need a "The more Yu know" pic

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The NL needs...

…Prince Fielder. The chasm is already a joke. If Prince signs in the AL, all NL events need to have an asterisk.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 20, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Phillies still have a great staff

and the NL Central should be interesting.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Interesting doesn't mean "equals AL".

The Blue Jays would pummel all but the Cardinals in the Central. If Tron or Berkman got hurt, they’d pummel the Cardinals too.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 20, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure how good the AL Central is going to be.

If the AL and NL Central matched up, I’m not sure who would win.

I dunno, I’m playing devil’s advocate here.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I can tell.

I think the Indians, White Sox and Tigers would win the NL Central. I think the Royals would create a tight race for 2nd, and the Twins would finish 4th.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 20, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

The White Sox look like they're in sell off mode

And I’m not sure about the Indians. The Cardinals should still hit well, Cincy looks to be better than last year and the Brewers will still have most of the team that got to the NLCS last year.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

2/3 Braun, no Fielder no Hawkins

That’s two really big parts missing

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Or partly missing

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Still have Gallardo, Greinke, Marcum

Added Aramis Ramirez.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Danks, Floyd, Peavy

Would be a beast top 3 in the NL.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 20, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Imagine what it will be like

If Prince signs with us and Toronto manages to trade for Votto after this season.

The competion for Silver Slugger at 1B is going to be ridiculous.

by RangersfaninROK on Jan 20, 2012 11:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

All your 1B are belong to us.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

That Halladay guy.

He’s pretty good.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

2.20 FIP

Ridiculous

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

What does Jose Buatista have to do with this

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

this

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 20, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Landry?

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT

Chuck Norris has been writing the checks!

by Perfect Zero on Jan 20, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I love the "bull pen"

"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM

by e2drummer on Jan 20, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:12 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

x
Todd Kaufmann @T_Kaufmann
Per @brianhale8: Yu Darvish is on American Airlines flight 60 scheduled to arrive at DFW at 3:35pm local time

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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 AM CST reply actions  

LETS GO!!!

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

x

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL60

A burden should never be something out of your control.

by benjihana on Jan 20, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

/bigestephan

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Jan 20, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah...

A burden should never be something out of your control.

by benjihana on Jan 20, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

FIFY

…American? Airlines?

A burden should never be something out of your control.

by benjihana on Jan 20, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

There needs to be a sarcastic font

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:31 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

like this?

…American? Airlines?

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST

by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 20, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Rays are signing Carlos Pena.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 20, 2012 11:17 AM CST reply actions  

Heart this.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 20, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Eff

Especially if Fielder isn’t coming here. Would have much rather had Pena over Mitch

by ab03 on Jan 20, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

.219

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

This is a real guess

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Chics dig the 354 wOBA.

Most arguments are really about context.

by SheaWasBettor21 on Jan 20, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Shieks?

A burden should never be something out of your control.

by benjihana on Jan 20, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

People keep talking about the joint press conference

and I know it’s mostly joking, but I would think the Rangers would specifically want to avoid the joint conference and want to give each player, particularly Yu, his own spotlight for a day. Both of these guys are superstars, Yu bigger than Fielder in his own country. Makes even more sense not to even have rumors of the Fielder deal until after the Yu presser.

At least this theory gives the “Fielder will sign here” people some more hope.

by ab03 on Jan 20, 2012 11:22 AM CST reply actions  

I don't want a joint presser

because I don’t want to follow anything the Angels did.

by sprite on Jan 20, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

He only has a 6 year contracT

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by Josh Lile on Jan 20, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I want to have a Nathan/Darvish/Fielder

Heat-like celebration

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Completely Agree...

….and remember how much “respect” has to do with the Japanese culture. It was mentioned many times in this whole posting process. Yu will be “King for a Day” and hopefully a “Deity for 6 Years”

by Chaim Witz on Jan 20, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 11:31 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

LMAO!

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Jan 20, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh that's win.

I live to play the devil's advocate.

by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 20, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Well done.

"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM

by e2drummer on Jan 20, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

*slow clap*

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Jan 20, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

mid-tour workout...

most awesome thing i’ve heard yet.

by SteveP on Jan 20, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Alabama wants to know why we went cheap.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

awesome

working out

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by Mike E on Jan 20, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

It needs a green background around it.

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Jan 20, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Pure randomness gets you a rec

well done

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi

by blalock84 on Jan 20, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a snow monkey, bro.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I had the other one as my work desktop.

Now I have this. <3

Defending Big D Check it out
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
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by Josh Lile on Jan 20, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Fielder related thought

What if signing Fielder means the Rangers have to settle for a minimum wage LHP in the bullpen (Kirkman) and a minimum wage backup SS? Or maybe MY becomes the backup SS.

And signing Fielder means the Rangers couldn’t take on any salary at the trade deadline.

by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 11:53 AM CST reply actions  

I dont think we're gonna be spending much money on those two positions anyway

The deadline thought has merit but as we’ve shown in the past we can add a prospect to a package if needed or if its a piece that could put us over the top I bet the owners would open up the wallet depending on who it is.

by bigsteve on Jan 20, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

lmao

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by Mike E on Jan 20, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's put it this way,

I’d be upset if those issues prevented signing Fielder.

by SteveP on Jan 20, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't even care.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 20, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Yu intro press conference will be aired on the MLB Network @7 central

for those wondering where they can watch it

Nobody is perfect, i am nobody, therefore, i am perfect

by 34express on Jan 20, 2012 12:03 PM CST reply actions  

thankS

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by Mike E on Jan 20, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Also streamed on foxsportssouthwest.com

MLB Network might dump out of it early, as they did for the signing announcement press conference.

"You want to give me poo poo?" - Josh Lewin 7/1/2009

by TXRangersFan on Jan 20, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

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