Rangers sign Brad Hawpe to minor league deal
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 20, 2012 4:05 PM CST
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PrintAccording to folks on Twitter, the Rangers have signed outfielder Brad Hawpe to a minor league contract with a major league invite to spring training.
Hawpe was born in Fort Worth and graduated from Saginaw Boswell high school, going on to play ball at LSU before being drafted in the 11th round of the 2000 draft by the Colorado Rockies.
Hawpe was a member of the Rockies organization until August, 2010, when he was released, and thereafter signed by the Tampa Bay Rays. Hawpe joined the Padres for the 2011 season.
Hawpe had a very good four year run from 2006-2009, during which time he posted a .288/.384/.518 line, good for a 124 OPS+, even in Colorado. His OPS dropped to 758 in 2010, however, and dropped further to 645 with San Diego in 2011.
A lefty hitter, Hawpe has spent most of his career playing right field, but has played some first base the past couple of seasons. The Rangers supposedly were interested in Hawpe in part to provide depth and insurance at first base if Mitch Moreland struggled returning from his wrist surgery.
| Year | Age | Tm | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | TB | GDP | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2004 | 25 | COL | 42 | 118 | 105 | 12 | 26 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 9 | 1 | 1 | 11 | 34 | .248 | .322 | .400 | .722 | 77 | 42 | 4 |
| 2005 | 26 | COL | 101 | 351 | 305 | 38 | 80 | 10 | 3 | 9 | 47 | 2 | 2 | 43 | 70 | .262 | .350 | .403 | .754 | 89 | 123 | 5 |
| 2006 | 27 | COL | 150 | 575 | 499 | 67 | 146 | 33 | 6 | 22 | 84 | 5 | 5 | 74 | 123 | .293 | .383 | .515 | .898 | 120 | 257 | 8 |
| 2007 | 28 | COL | 152 | 606 | 516 | 80 | 150 | 33 | 4 | 29 | 116 | 0 | 2 | 81 | 137 | .291 | .387 | .539 | .926 | 130 | 278 | 13 |
| 2008 | 29 | COL | 138 | 569 | 488 | 69 | 138 | 24 | 3 | 25 | 85 | 2 | 2 | 76 | 134 | .283 | .381 | .498 | .879 | 121 | 243 | 7 |
| 2009 | 30 | COL | 145 | 588 | 501 | 82 | 143 | 42 | 3 | 23 | 86 | 1 | 3 | 79 | 145 | .285 | .384 | .519 | .903 | 125 | 260 | 17 |
| 2010 | 31 | TOT | 103 | 346 | 298 | 31 | 73 | 21 | 2 | 9 | 44 | 2 | 1 | 42 | 85 | .245 | .338 | .419 | .758 | 94 | 125 | 5 |
| 2010 | 31 | COL | 88 | 300 | 259 | 24 | 66 | 21 | 2 | 7 | 37 | 2 | 1 | 36 | 68 | .255 | .343 | .432 | .776 | 96 | 112 | 4 |
| 2010 | 31 | TBR | 15 | 46 | 39 | 7 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 17 | .179 | .304 | .333 | .638 | 78 | 13 | 1 |
| 2011 | 32 | SDP | 62 | 216 | 195 | 19 | 45 | 10 | 0 | 4 | 19 | 0 | 0 | 19 | 68 | .231 | .301 | .344 | .645 | 83 | 67 | 7 |
| 8 Seasons | 893 | 3369 | 2907 | 398 | 801 | 176 | 23 | 124 | 490 | 13 | 16 | 425 | 796 | .276 | .368 | .480 | .848 | 113 | 1395 | 66 | ||
| 162 Game Avg. | 162 | 611 | 527 | 72 | 145 | 32 | 4 | 22 | 89 | 2 | 3 | 77 | 144 | .276 | .368 | .480 | .848 | 113 | 253 | 12 | ||
| COL (7 yrs) | 816 | 3107 | 2673 | 372 | 749 | 166 | 23 | 118 | 464 | 13 | 16 | 400 | 711 | .280 | .374 | .492 | .866 | 116 | 1315 | 58 | ||
| TBR (1 yr) | 15 | 46 | 39 | 7 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 17 | .179 | .304 | .333 | .638 | 78 | 13 | 1 | ||
| SDP (1 yr) | 62 | 216 | 195 | 19 | 45 | 10 | 0 | 4 | 19 | 0 | 0 | 19 | 68 | .231 | .301 | .344 | .645 | 83 | 67 | 7 | ||
| NL (8 yrs) | 878 | 3323 | 2868 | 391 | 794 | 176 | 23 | 122 | 483 | 13 | 16 | 419 | 779 | .277 | .369 | .482 | .851 | 114 | 1382 | 65 | ||
| AL (1 yr) | 15 | 46 | 39 | 7 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 17 | .179 | .304 | .333 | .638 | 78 | 13 | 1 | ||
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so this is why there is a press conference at 7:00pm
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 4:06 PM CST via Android app reply actions
This insurance policy is riddled with exceptions
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Not exactly what I was Hawpe-ing for
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by Josh Lile on Jan 20, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Yu better Hawpe on the bandwagon right now.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Fielder can Hawpe 3 inches off the ground
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Well, let's all grab a celebration omelet...
at our local iHawpe.
by Bats and Balls on Jan 20, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
When yu're Hawpe....yu're Hawpe!
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Hawpe-fully
He’ll be a good bench/platoon option during the season.
"Those cocksuckers asking me if I thought we were gonna go up there and try to work his fuckin’ pitch count ‘cause he’s on three fuckin’ days rest…you know what I told those cocksuckers? He pitch ball, ball cross plate, we gonna knock the shit out of it."
- Wash
Hawpe-fully
the only time he wears a Ranger uni is in ST
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 5:37 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
not exactly the first baseman I was looking to sign
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I hope he is signed to be the alternative to moreland
to be the 4th OF and bench player and mean Prince is on his way and trade mitch sucksalot moreland
Hawpe
He’s a lot whiter and about 100 pounds lighter than what I was wanting.
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Your move, Angels.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
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by Aqua on Jan 20, 2012 4:14 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
We see your Chris Iannetta and counter with Brad Hawpe
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 5:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We see your Chris Iannetta and counter with Brad Hawpe
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 5:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We see your Chris Iannetta and counter with Brad Hawpe
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 5:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
the rare triple post?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
If you had to say who te moat lowly person to do a TP
You would say me
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 9:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't even...
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 9:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
JD will flip Hawpe for King Felix at the trade deadline.
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"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I'm starting to wonder if you talked JD into this
as recompense for trading away Pedro Strop.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
I will take Hawpe's 2007 this year, please.
Kthnxbai.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
FOR HAWPE!!!!!!!!!!
cuz I know you don’t believe Fielder will play for $15M per year
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 4:30 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
$1M plus bonuses if on opening day roster
so says Jeff Wilson via Twitter
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 4:53 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Clearly the front office has 100% confidence in Mitch.
I mean… they said all winter he was their number one guy! Where’s c.james to back me up on this?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Mitch Moreland.
Awaiting the big news.
by FBI36th on Jan 20, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Holland had his wisdom teeth removed
Was that a wis thing to do? Might effect his Harry Carey impersonation
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 5:00 PM CST via Android app reply actions
well the Nats just locked up their 1B for 2 year extension.. soo....
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
Nationals just extedned Morse... so they are out on fielder now?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 5:12 PM CST reply actions
All they did was buy out his arb years
plus I think the plan is for him to play LF a lot of the time anyway with LaRoche at 1b.
as long as its not PF.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
God, I Hawpe so
Yu know?
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 5:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I Hawpe you liked those 3 Super bowls, I Hawpe you liked them very much
Cause I am insane now and this team will not win a fucking thing until I die.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 20, 2012 5:48 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
I'll just leave this here:
But Texas’ concern about Fielder never was just about Darvish money, or even the extension they hope to work out with Josh Hamilton. The club is risk-averse to paying huge sums of money to too many players as they age through their mid-30s, particularly after contracts for Jayson Werth, Joe Mauer, Carl Crawford and others look like bad deals at the start, not even the finish. Texas already is paying Adrian Beltre at least through age 36 and might be doing the same with Hamilton, 31 in May, who is in line for a Ryan Braun-sized five-year, $100 million extension.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 5:50 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
It's actually a pretty good read.
That contract proposal is quite interesting.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
Not that different from what I suggested.
Mine had $59 for the first 3 years and $75 for the last three. He didn’t have the club opt out and I only put that because Galloway mentioned it (which makes me thinks someone in the FO may have commented on it to him)
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
x
who is in line for a Ryan Braun-sized five-year, $100 million extension.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 20, 2012 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
The problem with all of these articles is that they assume a Hamilton extension.
I’m pretty sure most of us agree that such an extension is not a good idea/hopefully won’t happen
This answers a question I had when talking to ab03...
Prince Fielder still doesn’t have a team, but already he is almost assuredly about to set a record this year. No free agent ever has signed a nine-figure contract this late in the offseason.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tom_verducci/01/20/prince.fielder.yu.darvish/index.html#ixzz1k34d2bdI
I couldn’t remember the last time a BIG free agent signing took place this late.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Not for nine figures.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Still it was a "BIG free agent"
6’5", 225 pounds of awesome
He wasn't a free agent.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I think the Rangers will CJ Josh
Make an offfer he can refuse.
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
Does anyone know if the Darkish press conference is going to be on TV?
if so what time & what channel?
by FBH22 on Jan 20, 2012 6:06 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Thank you.
I was wanting to watch
by FBH22 on Jan 20, 2012 6:09 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I am Hawpeful that he plays better this year.
He was with the Padres last year, sucked, then got hurt.
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new CBA luxury tax structure making Yankees cut payroll… until 2014
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 6:37 PM CST via Android app reply actions
What's up, LSB? Uh...good luck, Oakland.
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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 20, 2012 6:37 PM CST reply actions
mlbn sabre guy saying Darvish
35-40 ranked pitcher in ML. Says Pineda is 28
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 6:46 PM CST via Android app reply actions
What do the epeemetric guys say?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
It's surprising
I thought he’d mention that the Japanese Maple Leaf looks just like a marijuana leaf.
by EmmEssGee on Jan 20, 2012 7:20 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
He played dump, instead of calling it a Japanese maple leaf.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I missed the presser
Impressions?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
media asks stupid questions
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 7:52 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
YOUR MOVE ANGELS
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 20, 2012 7:58 PM CST reply actions
I probably would if I were him.
ST isn’t until about a month correct?
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 20, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
he has plenty of time to come back and get a house/apartment or whatever the hell rich people with disposable incomes do.
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 20, 2012 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
Well, this backs up what they've been saying about not having any interest in Prince
Probably isn’t a definitive sign they won’t sign him, but I think it tells you they really aren’t expecting to.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
Everyone in the organization?
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
? If anything this made me think they'd sign Prince more
Looks like they plan on shipping Mitch out
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Not directly, no.
But why bring in Mitch Moreland insurance if you were working on signing Prince at the very same time?
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
Because even if you're working on it, it might not happen?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 20, 2012 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
Which is what I said, I think it indicates they don't really expect it to happen.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
They want him to take less money to come here.
No one should expect it to happen.
It’s up to Prince.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Because Mitch Moreland insurance might just be awesome Prince Fielder insurance somewhere down the line.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
You are right once again.
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Because only an idiot sits on his hands.
It’s about layers and layers of options.
Why bring in Mike Napoli when you have Young, Moreland & Torrealba?
You can never have enough… and Brad Hawpe on a minor league deal means very very little.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
and Treanor and Teagarden at the time
his positions were pretty locked up
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He was brought in to be a right-handed bench bat.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
And what do you think Brad Hawpe is being brought in to do?
He’s a secondary or tertiary option.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yes, but why do you need a tertiary option if you're planning on bringing in Fielder?
Give the RR fans something to cheer about for a month or two?
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
gonna trade David Murphy
duh
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 9:09 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Furthermore, why would Hawpe agree to come here if he thought he was gonna be a tertiery option behind Mitch Moreland and Prince fucking Fielder?
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
Because we don't have Prince Fielder, we have Mitch Moreland
And Texas is attractive to hitters on the rebound. Not too mention he’s from Ft. Worth. He was begging to sign here, I’m sure.
I wouldn't be surprised at all
If we traded Mitch Moreland once we got Prince Fielder (IF, obviously).
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Because he may have gotten very little interest from anyone else.
Jesus fucking Christ LSJ… you’re not this stupid.
I would be disappointed if the Rangers weren’t able to try and do multiple things and build contingencies… for Moreland not being healthy or anything else.
I don’t think the Rangers expect to sign Prince… they’ll only do it if Prince works extra hard to come to their price.
That doesn’t mean they will stop doing business while waiting on their hands for magic fucking unicorns to deliver Prince to them.
It also doesn’t mean they have ruled Prince out.
Since when has a fucking minor league contract and ST invite had ANYTHING to do with a 9 figure free agent deal?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
x
I don’t think the Rangers expect to sign Prince… they’ll only do it if Prince works extra hard to come to their price.
That’s literally all I’m saying. I’m not saying Brad Hawpe actually precludes anything. Just that Prince signing here is not imminent, nor likely. People seem to be waiting with baited breath for the announcement that we’ve signed him to come any day now, and this move indicates that just isn’t the case.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
And what I'm saying is:
This move has nothing to do with it… one way or the other.
If Brad Hawpe’s signing is an indication of anything… it’s the lack of news in late January.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'm sure if we signed Brett Tomko to another MiL contract...
That would have meant we didn’t think we’d get Yu Darvish.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Because there are no guarantees.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
hmm..
ProspectInsider Hearing tonight that the Fielder race is about two teams — both in the American League. This tells me Texas heavy favorite.
Blue Jays, Mariners (?), Yankees, Rangers...
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Who is this mystery team trying to shed payroll to make it happen?
I really have no idea. So…Yankees!
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Oh, here, one or two weeks ago?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Snark and Liam were speculating on that...
When Montero was traded last week.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I finally understand their lack of money.
Rumor was they wanted to get under $189M for 2014.
Watching Clubhouse Confidential they were talking about it and showed the tiered percentages over the luxury tax threshold teams have to pay. The longer you stay over the threshold the higher it gets. The Yankees are paying an extra 50% for every dollar over $178M now. So like $15M per year just in tax.
If they can get under the threshold for just one year, it resets down to 17.5%.
If they really want to do that… they can’t sign a guy like Prince.
Of course they can always change their mind and shouldn’t be completely ruled out… but given how much they’ve complained about paying the tax and the other statements… I actually believe they do want to get under by 2014 just to get that percentage down for a while.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
watched the same thing
their tax has avg $23M since they started the luxury tax.
Gotta get payroll down so they can sign Elvis
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 9:30 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Permission
if we sign Prince Fielder, I can put back my avatar to Randy Marsh/Internet since I was told to remove it a while back.
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 20, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
You have to personally reenact it and take a picture of it and make that your icon...
(Don’t actually do this.)
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 20, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Nope
It was the scene from South Park.
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 20, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Whoever he signs with
surely things have to ramp up immediately. Im expecting a very strong rumor this weekend.
Churchill (ProspectInsider) wrote last night that he expects it to happen by Tuesday...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 20, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
(And he didn't think the Mariners were in it)
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 20, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
And...
“No strong indications that Det or Tor are in.”
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 20, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
Just now:
ProspectInsider Jason A. Churchill
@
@JTrea81 In that scenario, Boras is using Texas to get Prince to Baltimore? Backwards, if anything.
So Texas or Baltimore?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 20, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
I doubt he'd go to Baltimore.
They can’t compete in that division imo.
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 20, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
seriously
The Cubs in the NL Central (which is also not happening) is one thing… but Baltimore is just guaranteeing no playoffs.
And its not like they really throw money around, no reason to suspect they’d throw 200 mil at fielder even if he would take it.
Hmm...
ProspectInsider Jason A. Churchill
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@Josh_Bircher Texas is definitely one of the two.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 20, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
This is really happening.
Wait, no it isn’t. But how could it not? Where am I?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
B'more's got a ton of synergy in that one, goET.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I'm not buying Rogers Comm's willing to spend money...
their biggest signing in the last few years has been Darren freaking Oliver.
AA really likes to spend money in the draft/int. FA's...
Big FA signing doesn’t really mesh with AA (part of it probably has to do with them not really being on same level talent wise at the major leagues with the Yankees and the Red Sox) and the Rogers ownership group.
Initially, I did think they put in a competitive bid for Yu but...
after seeing how they haven’t really been on Fielder or any other big FA after the bidding, I’m really skeptical about their bid and their willingness to spend money.
My theory...
I think they are handcuffed by ownership but their FO is giving the illusion that they are in on all these big name FA (the media probably has a lot to do with this) so as not to alienate their fan base.
From what I've heard... they may not even BID on Darvish.
Things are that tight budget wise.
Also… when JD says the word budget, does anyone else hear the word, “WOLF! WOLF!” or is that just me?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Heh... so you're falling for it?
Just like the Rangers didn’t even bid on Darvish had the Blue Jays won, because of Chuck Greenberg.
It was not.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
So what was on Yu's shirt earlier?
They mentioned it in the press conference but not what was actually interesting about it?
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Jeff Wilson
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Very interesting to talk to #Rangers owner Bob Simpson. He says the club is working at a deficit and will until new TV contract kicks in.
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
Crikey, that's a coiled-up moneypenis waiting for the chance to strike, that is!
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Really now..
I could see expecting to lose money in 2012 at a 125 million dollar payroll (+$$$$ if Fielder) and no guarantee of money from a deep playoff run… but I would have expected 2011 to be positive.
We need a cool summer.
What was the old TV contract anyway.
I need to understand the biz of baseball a bit better (b-b-b-bbbbbb)
We drew almost 3MM last year, right? What’s our break-even point for next year? 3.2? 3.3? Need more info to know?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Pras/GB wrote a good article on this last year.
He thinks we should be able to sustain about a $130M payroll as it is right now. Each ticket is worth about $35 dollars in revenue (including concessions and parking) according to the leaked financials.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I don't read that no-talent assclown.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
But perhaps I'll make an exception just this once.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
but part of the $$$ has been going to ballpark upgrades
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 9:31 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Part of the money goes everywhere.
There’s always something. Teams generally spend a similar percentage of revenue on payroll.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
We need to jack up the price of the corporate seats.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
So we poor again?
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by Clutch Smurf on Jan 20, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
We're using our credit cards to buy things now and waiting for our tax returns help us pay it off.
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
Oh, cool. We're the working poor.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I kind of expected this...
Increased ticket and merchandise sales aren’t enough to cover the increasing amount of money the Rangers are spending. We know a lot of this money is coming out of the owners’ funds, which means the team is operating on a deficit. I don’t really see this news as anything shocking.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
it means that they are operating at a cash flow deficit
they could still have positive earnings but still need more of an investment
by jonathan rigby on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
accounting deficit or a real deficit
seems like the “we poor” tactic rangers love to play
by jonathan rigby on Jan 20, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
via Jeff Wilson tweet
Bob Simpson says Rangers are running a deficit until the new TV deal kicks in
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 8:53 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Hmmmm...
http://www.lonestarball.com/2012/1/20/2721870/rangers-sign-brad-hawpe-to-minor-league-deal#89357606
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Give him a break he's posting from the Android app
the other post might not have even shown up
ah.. that terrible thing.
Yes, he is excused.
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yeah.. it's posted right above you.
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corny
As an oilman, he wanted to make sure that the Rangers wouldn’t be wildcatting with Darvish but instead would get production. The front-office said the investment was sound.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 9:03 PM CST reply actions
so Josh sat in the front row
next to Bob and Ray….. suck up
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 9:05 PM CST via Android app reply actions
I want my Prince to come
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 20, 2012 9:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions
if nolan says there is a chance if they work a creative deal
i have no doubt in the creativity of the ninja
he doubted his velocity also
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That man looks good in that hat.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
so much for Yu being the most exspensive righty
hes the most exspensive switch pitcher… im ok with that.
when does the new TV deal start?
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 9:27 PM CST via Android app reply actions
2015, I wanna say?
Look, this is a bad time to buy cocaine anyway. With the market how it is, it is better to rent cocaine.
2015 I believe
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sbn app doesn't handle pics very well
GDTs are going to be a problem
by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2012 9:35 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Ah.. indeed.
Maybe tech will get it sorted out by next season.
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I dont know about the app, but..
thats my biggest problem with web browsing on the iPad, .gifs give it quite a bit of trouble for whatever reason.
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