How much faith do you have in the Rangers’ front office?
"I believe and trust them. They’ve done a lot of work. But it goes back to the theory of are you in a sports organization to try to second-guess them. We don’t do that.
"You’re much better off getting real people that know what they’re doing rather than calling plays behind them. If you think you can improve you’re management personally as an owner, you need to get somebody else and not try to do it yourself.
That’s where I disagree with the owners that are so proactive and involved technically. It’s like, knock yourself out if that’s fun for you. That’s in hobby area. Here you get the very best people and support them. We were fortunate in that we had such superb staff when we bought the thing that we’re not reinventing anything."
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Related to the owners letting the baseball guys do their work...
“We’ve got guys, frankly, like Josh Hamilton, that I would love to see re-signed. My personal preference, at this moment, would be to re-sign him instead of having Fielder. But we could all debate that. The organization has its feelings. Everybody dreams about having both. Sometimes you can’t have both at some level. If they came around to something we’d do, we’d look at him. But we don’t think it’s likely.”
As long as he listens to the baseball people…
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
yes
Good Lord, listen to the baseball people.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
It's really strange how public he's become in the last 2 days.
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
I think it's expected with the amount of $ they've spent on Yu
Reporters gonna be tracking down this guy for quotes, you just have to in this case. But when I read the very paragraph that match highlighted I thought – oh, shit. Hope he’s just spouting off. My guess is that the big money guys won’t interfere stupidly. Time will tell.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
x
"We’ve got guys, frankly, like Josh Hamilton, that I would love to see re-signed. My personal preference, at this moment, would be to re-sign him instead of having Fielder."
le sigh
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 21, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure it's very tempting to get involved in the technical aspects if you're the owner.
Really, really glad Simpson doesn’t want to do that.
That's where having a committee and Nolan help.
When it’s just one crazy sumbitch like Jerry or Cuban or Hicks… it’s easier to just meddle.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
To be fair, Cuban and Donnie seem to work pretty well together.
by cstorm15 on Jan 21, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
they do work really well together
i still can’t believe how well built last years team was….amazing.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Cuban is also one of the smartest owners in sports...
something you can’t say about Jerry.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
Easily one of the smartest owners in sports.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Cuban does meddle.
I think he listens to Donnie more than Jerry listens to… anyone. But it’s definitely Cuban’s show.
If I owned a team I’d be the same way.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
And I would hate you
"When I came off the mound the hairs were standing up on my arm. I know there's not much"
/Holland.
Like I'd care...
I’d own a sports team and be rich!
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
So wait...you don't think Hicks cares that he's one of the most hated men in our metroplex???
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Nope.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Damnit.
I guess he doesn’t care that I hate him for using 1.35 million gallons of water in June either.
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
One of my family members works with him.
He cares.
HNNNNNNGGGGG
by JoseTres on Jan 21, 2012 3:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Good to hear....I hope it burns.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I don't care if he "says" he cares...
His actions never showed that he did.
They still don’t with this parking lot bullshit.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
No...
They just show his priority. He cares a lot more about being rich and doing whatever he wants than he does what fans think of him.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'm willing to bet when the doors are closed
and he’s kicked back in his office smoking a cigar…he really doesn’t care at all.
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
So?
The difference is he’s gone. After he got done fucking everything in my sports world in the ass, he was bankrupt and bought out. I have more hatred for Jerry Jones than I do Tom Hicks.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Would you say you are a bigger Rangers fan or Cowboys fan?
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
Rangers.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
As a Stars fan as well...
I don’t think there’s anyway I could hate Jerry more than Hicks.
Jerry just makes himself look like a fool.
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
Dude I'm a Stars Rangers and Liverpool fan in that order...
And I still hate Jerry Jones more.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Not sure how or why.
If football isn’t even your favorite sport, it wouldn’t seem that big of a deal that he’s so stubborn
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
Out of sight out of mind I guess...
All of the franchises Hicks fucked up are back in working order and are respectable. However, my football team just sits over there in Arlington continuing to suck and embarrass me. And when the entire league compares you to Al Davis, that’s really all you need to know.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Heading in opposite directions.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
The Stars are still fucked up but you can see light at
the end of the tunnel.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
And that's the fucking thing...
I can deal with losing seasons and not making the playoffs all day every day. Because after a while of it, heads roll, you start new again, and you have hope. All I fucking want is hope with this team. Not SUPER BOWL WINS DERP, not deep playoff runs. I just want hope.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Short term memory loss, bto.
Rangers weren’t even on the radar with Hicks as owner. No expectations, no hope…nothing.
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Rangers were on their way up when Hicks was headed out the door.
The Rangers were sold in 2010.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Did you like those three Super Bowls?
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Yeah I mean on a long enough timeline you can make anybody look good...
I’m well aware that on a short enough time line you can make anything look bad.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
I've hated Jerry since he hired Barry Switzer
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 21, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Why?
Who did you want Jerry to pick up?
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Jimmy Johnson.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Don't get me mixed in with that.
I just hate him cause he’s a drunk Cowboy that can’t progress in his manner of thinking. He will not quit until he feels like he’s responsible for one Super Bowl. Which, much like the other three will only happen in spite of him.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Seriously?
Anyone but Barry Switzer.
Hiring Barry Switzer was a “fuck you” to Jimmy, who Jerry felt was taking too much credit for having built a Super Bowl team. He wanted to show everyone that he could get some clown off the couch and plug him in as head coach and the team would win.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 21, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
He did win one more with one of the greatest teams ever
He could have won at least another one or two with someone other than a buffoon like Switzer
"When I came off the mound the hairs were standing up on my arm. I know there's not much"
/Holland.
I was still pretty young at the time
and didn’t put that much thought into it…that’s why I was asking.
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
I don't remember now
It was 18 years ago. I don’t know that I’d gotten past the shock and anger from Jimmy getting fired, and started thinking about who else would be an option, before Barry was hired.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 21, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
You ever read Boys Will Be Boys?
If you haven’t I’d recommend it. As a matter of fact, any Jerry supporter should and it would quickly change their mind.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Pretty controversial.
I really liked BWBB though. Any other recommendations for a book of his?
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Man...
I just read Game of Shadows though.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Jimmy wanted out.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Had a date on his calendar circled as his "walk out" date.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
wasn't it jimmy
who was upset that jerry was getting a lot of the credit? didn’t he go talk to miami while he was still with the cowboys? jerry has a big ego, yeah, but jimmy has the biggest ego of all…and that’s why he wanted to quit; get away from jerry
"Did you like those 3 Super Bowls?"
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
CAUSE WE'RE NEVER GONNA SEE ANOTHER GODDAMN ONE OF THEM.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
If you think he's hated here, there's a certain city in England he can't show his face in at all.
Those scousers would curb stomp him
Liverpool has been freed, the Rangers have been freed, now it's time to free the Stars from Tom Hicks.
by Cruztovictory on Jan 21, 2012 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Oh I bet.
I know one of his sons surely won’t be going back anytime soon.
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
I think its great they have other interests besides the Rangers which keeps them hands off
You look at Jerry and to a lesser extent Cuban and thats their whole world is their sports teams so I can see how its harder for them to just sit back and let the sports people do their thing.
Shit, just so y'all know
If I ever by a sports team, I’m meddling the hell out of it. Life’s too short to not meddle with the sports team you own.
Then I'd never work for you
I work in IT.
My direct supervisor micromanages the hell out of us to the point that I’m looking for another job JUST BECAUSE he’s micromanaging.
Nevermind that I’ve been in this position for almost 6 years and almost assuredly know what the fuck I’m doing.
The best management finds the best people for specific roles. And then they get the fuck out of the way.
Writer for Defending Big D
by Brandon Bibb on Jan 21, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't micromanage as much as I would say
“You guys are doing great, but just fyi… we’re about to trade for McCutcheon”
"You figure out how to do it, but I want it done."
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Your anecdotal evidence doesn't really mean all that much.
The two things are vastly different.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I don't think there's much research to support a pro-micromanagement stance;
however, I’m not sure micromanaging is the right word for meddling sports owners anyway.
Not that you don't know what you're doing...
But I’ve met developers with 10 years experience that most assuredly had no fucking idea what they were doing.
They were effectively paid typists who knew a bit of syntax and terrible ways to design systems.
I wouldn’t think just because someone had experience that they were good.
Of course I also don’t like micromanaging… we hire everyone on a contract-to-full time basis… if I don’t weed them out in the labs during the interview… working with them for a few months usually does.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Do you ever wonder how many get scared off by a contract-to-full-time basis?
I know that I saw enough full-time positions when I was looking to not consider ones that weren’t. But then, I was willing to relocate, so wasn’t just limited to searching DFW.
I've never had a candidate turn us down for it.
I’ve also only had one guy not convert.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yeah, I don't think there are worthwhile developers who'd have concerns about whether or not they could hack it,
I’d just want to make sure I talked to enough people to get the “are they looking for contracters that they’ll keep a few of, or are they looking for full-time people that they want to be able to screen” question answered.
But on the other hand: it’s at-will, what’s the difference besides how you get paid?
You'd own it like it was a fantasy keeper league, wouldn't you.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
i believe both of them let their 'sports people'
influence them. Cuban w/ Donnie and Jerry w/ Stephen, Ciskowski, and Garrett.
and, speaking of Jerry, he’s played football in college, been around the game his entire life, this is his job, not a ‘hobby’, so, if Bob was in a similar upbringing, owned 100% of the team, i’m sure he’d want his input on the team.
See Bavasi
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
See Jerry Jones
"I wish I could tell you that TRangers fought the good fight, and the 2 strangers let him be. I wish I could tell you that - but Beaumont is no fairy-tale world." - bking
Cuban has gotten a lot better the last several years with Donnie here
But just because Jerry played college football doesn’t make it ok for him to meddle in his teams decisions especially when they have gotten a lot of those wrong the last several years.
Hasn't Donnie been here since 2000?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
First few years of Donnie Cuban was still heavily involved
I dont know exactly when but i’d say around 04 or so is when Cuban really let Donnie start doing the majority of the work and while hes remained vocal he hasn’t been nearly as meddling in about 7-8 years.
and Chuck Greenberg?
"You want to give me poo poo?" - Josh Lewin 7/1/2009
by TXRangersFan on Jan 21, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
I was thinking this exact same thing.
Based on what’s been reported, Greenberg did not fit this mold, or follow this plan.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Not very wise..
To start making enemies with the other sports owners in the city.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 21, 2012 1:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
In sports
You can do whatever the hell you want if you are winning
by CRUSHDAVIS on Jan 21, 2012 1:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Who cares?
I don’t even like the Cowboys but it’s gotten to the point that I’m ashamed of them. Jones needs to be embarrassed at every opportunity. Maybe then he’d sneak into the background and let one of the most storied teams in sports history be run by people who know what they’re fucking doing.
by Black Francis on Jan 21, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting note from Newberg...
He [Yu Darvish] appears remarkably respectful and unassuming for a superstar personality – he reportedly declined the almost-standard perks that others who have come before him have insisted on (housing and car allowances, full-time handlers, etc.), preferring to be treated like the rest of his teammates – and that’s going to go over well in the room and with the media and public.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
I wonder how the $ 110 million investment in a player who hasn't done a thing
will go over with the players (who have done a lot of the heavy lifting the last two years) who are due extensions?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
No.
I don’t think the players will resent Yu personally for the money (they want him to get as much as he can) but I do think the rest of the players who are due extensions (and get bullshit offers instead) aren’t going to be happy.
I don’t think it’s coincidental that JD wasn’t successful with any of his extension candidates.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Yu has taken up a lot of club money
But you’re assuming the Rangers have no long term plan for any of these guys, just the one guy they spent $110 million for – that they’ve never given much thought to how much they’re willing to pay other players whose contracts are running out. You think they’d pay them mega-extensions if they hadn’t signed Yu? I don’t think so. Either these guys are in their long-term plans or they’re not. I don’t think Yu has much to do with it.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
The one thing I'm worried about
The smart move is to let aging, about-to-be-overpaid players walk, which I think JD will do.
I just hope the clubhouse doesn’t take that the wrong way. CJ was easy, since apparently nobody liked him.
Straight out of the Patriots playbook.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
as it always happens..players that have been on successful
teams want to cash in..play on the emotional high and use the fans to get FO to pay them..
X
I don’t think the players will resent Yu personally for the money (they want him to get as much as he can) but I do think the rest of the players who are due extensions (and get bullshit offers instead) aren’t going to be happy.
Unhappy with who? The messed up posting system? Ownership who made the bid?
Josh is still gonna make more money than Darvish. So will Face and Beltre.
I shortened my sig so I wouldn't be frowned upon at Lookout Landing
Would you sign
Napoli for 4/60 mil, Hamilton for 7/147, and Holland for 5/60?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 21, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Why would Hamilton get 7/147 or Napoli 4/60?
I think that’s Cave’s point.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Well Napolis is at least plausible for him to ask for given his arb demands
And if Josh is serious about the Werth contract as a baseline that could be plausible as well.
But Holland at 5/60 given his contract status is not plausible in the least.
Now if you would have said 5/40 thats different
And I said 5/40 not too long ago for Holland.
Yes, I know…I initially said 5/50 but I thought Holland was here 3 full years.
I said 5/67 with Napoli and with Josh…I’ll go with 6/126.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
They are plausible
but I would never want to give any of those guys those types of contracts. Id give Holland 5/40 for sure.
Id give Hamilton 4 or 5 (with a vesting option) for AAV or 18 mil but nothing more. Way too risky.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 21, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
I was skewered in here for saying Holland should hold out for 5/40
and then Gio signs a 5/42 last week.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Gio's been to the All Star game.
And had two years of 200 innings.
Different resumes.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Gio is a Super 2
Holland is not
Those 40 some odd days should save the club around 10 million dollars
Holland if he signed a extension, may get 1 million for 2012. I think Gio’s first three arb prices are in line with what we should pay Holland but Gio’s 4th arb year he will make 11 mil. We dont have to pay that based on how the system works in baseball
Gonzalez is better and is arbitration-eligible
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 21, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
You think Gio is better than Holland?
Didn’t know Gio was arb-eligible.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I think he's been better than Holland
In an arbitration case, he’d get more money than Holland.
And I believe the Rangers think he’s better than Holland.
If they could have traded Holland straight up for Gio, I think they’d have done that in a heartbeat.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 21, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
Elaborate, please.
Because I think this is complete horseshit.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
If they could have traded Holland su for Gio, they would have done it in a heartbeat.
Assuming you’re talking about this offseason, I think that’s crazy. And, yes, World Series Game 4 changed everything.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Okay
Your position is that they would have done this but for WS Game 4.
I don’t think the front office puts so much weight on one outing.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 21, 2012 6:50 PM CST up reply actions
I dont think the difference is big enough to warrant the extra 10 mil Gio would cost over Holland in their arb years
So I dont think we would have traded straight up for him.
But I agree with everything else
Yes
they offered a lot more than just Holland to get Gio.
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exactly
just saying extensions arent getting done therefore the FO is failing is extremely shortsighted.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 21, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
JD said extensions were a priority after the World Series.
We’re still waiting.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Right
and they were. However, all 3 of those players had terms they wanted that were not in the best interest of the team. Giving Hamilton 6/126 would be a mistake.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 21, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
Why don't you trade Josh now?
I know why…he’s that fucking good and that fucking important to winning.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
If I thought you could get enough value for not having him one more season
I’d do it. You’ll get pennies on the dollar in a trade because of his injury history, cost this year and impending free agency.
I’d rather have the production for one more year and the draft pick.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I find it impossible to believe we couldn't come to terms with Holland given the previous deals signed by similar players
Josh is a case where he wants more than I think most here are comfortable with giving
And now that Napolis arb demands have come out it appears he was seeking a much higher deal than he probably should.
It was troubling hearing Kinsler say his talks were on hold while the Yu stuff was ongoing but the only one I am really mad about right now is Holland
You
would be really surprised at how little MLB players care about that stuff. They actually want as many players making as much money as possible so that drives the market up as a whole. You keep talking about “the room” yet you have no idea what the room really is.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 21, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
If I'm [insert player/player agent], and the Rangers offer me [insert anything within the realm of reason], I say fuck you.
Rinse. Repeat.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I'm sure they all hate Yu's arrival
Hamilton probably taped a “Kick Me” sign on his back after the press conference
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Napoli probably punched him when they went out for lunch
THAT’S MY MONEY!
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
oh yeah, that lunch
they all stiffed him – Welcome to America, asshole, you’re treat since you’ve taken up our extension money.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
MY is overpaid.
Do you think that causes locker room problems?
by elchicodelgado on Jan 21, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
Nope...he's been there for a lot of the heavy lifting the last few years.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
By heavy lifting you mean
getting paid the most but not producing as a top 5 player on the team?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 21, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Face seems to be revered by just about everybody in the organization.
Did I see where Gio signed a 5/42 extension?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
But is he $16 mil worth?..i like MY
but thats going to be adjusted way down nxt contract or he can move on..its like Jeter..he isnt worth 16mil he is getting..not anymore
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"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
But Young was also woefully underpaid from 2004-2008.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Sure. Players are underpaid, then they get overpaid.
I’ve never understood the fuss over the Young deal.
My only complaint was how early we gave it
At this point, I may wish he weren’t under contract, but I’m hardly bummed we signed the deal.
Players getting overpaid is not automatic.
And how much they get overpaid is certainly worth some thought.
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Well, if they don't suck or flame out...
I think his deal had a significant PR purpose at the time it was made.
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWPE!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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For the Rangers, it's more overblown now than it was once.
But that’s a recent phenomenon.
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At the time, it was a symptom and a cause.
It didn’t have to be one or the other.
Now it’s just an annoyance.
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Oh.
I was still talking about Young.
The Rodriguez signing, and subsequent trade… that’s sort of a different thing, isn’t it? Especially in terms of what you or I or the Rangers or another ballclub would consider “overpaying.”
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Yeah, overpaying is kinda orthagonal to the A-Rod situation,
but the way I was looking at it was that in both cases, if the numbers were big enough that they limited the team’s flexibility, the problem was rooted in Hicks’s fuckheadedness.
Like, for the Young contract to be crippling, you’d have to totally mismanage things badly enough to end up in bankrup…
Heh.
I’d still argue that signing Rodriguez didn’t limit the team’s flexibility, given what happened around him — but then, there’s the question of for how long that level of spending would’ve been sustainable, even had the other transactions been successful (rather than disastrous).
Lots of tricky counterfactuals, there.
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Heh. Sorry.
Basically, after Rodriguez signed, the Rangers went out and signed guys like Chan Ho Park and Juan Gonzalez — they had money to spend, they just didn’t spend it well.
Now, I don’t think anyone knows if there were better free agents out there that they could’ve signed, or if there were trades they could’ve pulled for pitching. And even if they had, maybe winning more still wouldn’t have supported the $100M payrolls.
But the question is out there…
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Oh i was just joking—but thanks for putting in the work, heh.
(But that’s still English, not a regular grammar, n00b!)
(Also, agreed.)
I don't think the A-Rod deal limited the team's flexibility too much.
They just completely wasted the flexibility they had.
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It's not good business to overpay a player just because he was once underpaid.
He’s earned more of his contract than I expected, so this doesn’t necessarily apply to Young, but giving someone too much to balance out the years where the CBA meant you were getting good value is not a good strategy.
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Impossible without collusion.
Too much benefit to one team saying “you guys have fun with that. I’m going to sign me some FAs.”
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Welcome to capitalism
Adam Smith, Milton Friedman, and David Ricardo would like to have a talk with you.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 21, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
Josh has been the best player on one of the best teams in MLB the last two years.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
yeah..but lets say Prince signs for 5yr 100mil
they would greet him and he hasnt done any lifting for them either
He's done a lot of other heavy lifting in The Show.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Darvish has been a beast in his league
is he great? who knows..will he be solid?..undoubtedly with a high upside
Furthermore
Why do you think his contract will cause locker rooms problems but demanding a trade twice wouldn’t? I don’t think the players give much of a shit about the stuff fans care about.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 21, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
If anything, Young gained more respect for the way he publicly and very directly dealt with JD.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
i think he gained the respect by changing positions
to best serve the team..but lost points when he challenged JD..kinda came off as a whiny lil bitch..but refocused and everyone moved on
I saw the reverential way the team treated and spoke about him that first day of spring training.
If anything, he gained respect.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
So they said the right things and meant them.
When they say the right things about Yu hey won’t actually mean them?
by elchicodelgado on Jan 21, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yu will be fine as long as he lives up to the investment
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Josh likes him.
Helped make a recruiting video and was there for his PC.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yu's popularity on the team will depend almost entirely
on his performance and whether or not he can help them win.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
That's why they tolerated C.J. apparently.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
But we will not know if he was a bust for a few years.
Long after the Hamilton extension is over. So how can his performance impact Josh’s view in light of his upcoming free agency?
by elchicodelgado on Jan 21, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yet they hold MY in reverence
despite the fact that his hands of stone at 1B helped lose the WS?
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
They over look his defense for his post season hitting...
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Michael Young left the game with the score 7-4.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I thought it
would depend on how much he is making?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 21, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
I know he will be fine but that's not what I asked.
Why do you believe the players when they gush on Michael but you believe them when they gush on Yu? Josh is due an extension and seemed to genuinely support this signing. How do you reconcile that with your belief that the players due an extension will resent him?
by elchicodelgado on Jan 21, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't heard anybody on the team gush about
Yu.
Anything they say right now is bullshit (he hasn’t recorded a single out in The Show).
Tell me what they say once the bullets start firing and the shit hits the fan.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Ok. That's what I wanted to know.
They are lying now but not when they praised MY. Got it. That’s why Josh chose the ugliest fucking shirt he owns for the PC.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 21, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think anybody is lying now.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
That's a direct contradiction to
“Anything they say right now is bullshit”
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
In other words...they're just being nice.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Are we still talking about C.J.?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
No...CJ did a lot of heavy lifting for This Thing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
So did Millwood
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
Not everyone on the Rangers...
is a racist like you, Angels fan.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
Racist because I compared Darvish to other Japanese pitchers
who were successful in the same league he was?
Try again.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
You keep comparing apples and oranges.
Darvish is not a typical Japanese pitcher. He is 6’5" His left leg is bigger than Hideo Nomo. And he has overpowering stuff, not smoke and mirrors.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
by Atticus F on Jan 21, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But all the other Japanese pitchers were as dominant as he was.
He in no way seemed different than the others.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
No, he's different...they all are
but along with all the other adjustments those pitchers have to make, he’s having to do it in Texas.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I think it's fair
to compare when looking at level of competition, difference in balls, schedules, etc.
Que sera, sera.
If you're going to make that comparison, it needs to be sufficiently deep.
One of the reasons Darvish isn’t those previous guys is that none of them have been nearly as good. Match was being sarcastic. There has never been a Yu Darvish before.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
This is bullshit.
The hype for Dice-K was equal and it was also pretty high for Nomo.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
there's a difference between hype and goodness
Nomo hype was insane because he pretty much started the Japanese wave over here. You’re not gonna see hype like that any more.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
I never said anything about hype.
I’m talking about results.
Nomo’s last five years in Japan, ages 21-25:
1. 18-8, 235 IP, 287 Ks, 2.91 ERA
2. 17-11, 242.1 IP, 287 Ks, 3.05 ERA
3. 18-8, 216.2 IP, 228 Ks, 2.66 ERA
4. 17-12, 243.1 IP, 276 Ks, 3.70 ERA
5. 8-7, 114 IP, 126 Ks, 3.63 ERA
Darvish’s last five, ages 20-24:
1. 15-5, 207.2 IP, 210 Ks, 1.82 ERA
2. 16-4, 200.2 IP, 208 Ks, 1.88 ERA
3. 15-5, 182.0 IP, 167 Ks, 1.73 ERA
4. 12-8, 202.0 IP, 222 Ks, 1.78 ERA
5. 18-6, 232.0 IP, 276 Ks, 1.44 ERA.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
That's the difference...
Between being good against weaker competition… and flat out DOMINATING them.
C.J. Wilson would not put up Darvish numbers in Japan.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
The only reason Nomo had so many more innings and strikeouts is that he had so many more starts, to address that out of the way.
Darvish never started more than 28 games (which was this past year). Nomo started less than 30 once, which was his last year.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Really,
it’d be better to show K% and BB%, or at least K/BB (or BB/K) and K-BB.
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I can give it to you for Darvish right now.
But I can’t for Nomo yet. Baseball-Reference doesn’t have Nomo’s Japanese stats, so I might have to go to the box scores of his individual games. I can’t find a Japanese source that has extended boxes like that collected.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Just do it per 9 innings.
Not quite as good as %, but you’ve got the data for it.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
And per nine innings isn't as good.
Baseball Cube has the data, and I can run them in a sec.
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I'm going to kick this down to the bottom.
What I’m having a hard time finding so far is hits per season and walk totals. The Japanese cites I can decipher don’t include walks.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Ack.
Baseball Cube has a column for TBF, but not the numbers to populate it.
Damn.
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Baseball-reference has that for Darvish only.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
*sites
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Baseball Cube has the data for both.
Give me a sec.
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YES!
Ok, let’s move this to the bottom. This is exactly what I wanted.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Sure, Cobra was successful
but he had been in The Show previously and knew what he was getting into so those adjustments were minor.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Dwight Gooden, Roger Clemens...
They adjusted to MLB pretty well. I think the Rangers see Darvish as comparable to those kind of pitchers, while you are comparing him to Yoshi.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
Clemens and Maddux are the best pitchers of the last 30 years.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I'm not comparing him to Yoshi.
I think he’ll be somewhere between average to slightly above average.
Vinnie Padilla 2006.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Yeah, he said Clemens.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Well he also thinks the Angels are going to win 98 games.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
Nothing official but yeah, somewhere
between 94-100 wins.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Oh, now we are rounding down...
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
There's a big difference between 94 wins and 98
Like the 18 year old at the bar and the 16 year old.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
There's also a lot of time between
now and Opening Day.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I'll have my official picks before Opening Day.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
As long as you don't pick the Rangers to win the division we're fine.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Nope ...Angels.
Subject to change.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Racist because you called him A DECEPTIVE JAPANEE
YOU STUPID FUCKING RACIST FUCK
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
Not really...
In 2010 yes he was the best player. In 2011 he was the 4th best position player(kinsler, beltre, napoli)
by CDFAN on Jan 21, 2012 2:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
????
if any of the current players are so selfish that they would rather their team’s front office overpay people as opposed spending that same money to create a situation where they can all become world champions of baseball, then those self minded players should be shown the door without even bringing up the thought of an extension. let them go play on NYY
I'd wager it goes over better than if they'd given CJ that money
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 21, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
YUUUUPPP.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Something I have been thinking about.
All eyes and attention are going to be on Yu. This takes some pressure off Josh, who usually draws most of the attention.
"I've got a Harden!"
by ghostofPeterGardere on Jan 21, 2012 2:12 PM CST reply actions
Hamilton doesn't even really like baseball.
It’s just something he’s good at. When the season’s done he just does his thing.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Triumph of the uncluttered mind.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Deep throat informant.
Bigger beating than mushmouth.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Clarence is the biggest beating
Automatic punch-out for me
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Oh sure.
And I think he likes PLAYING the game so to speak.
Just that he’s not a fan… I bet he barely watches after he retires.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
See Game 6, 10th inning.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Fucking Game 6...
how can this game be completely erased from our memories?
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
Healing won't begin until they win it all (I'm not nearly as pissed about
the 2006 Mavs as I used to be).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
It helps that Dirk and JET got redemption. And that it was against the same team.
I wanna win it with this core. Especially Hamilton.
Que sera, sera.
I hear you re this core.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I just don't have the sports-hate for the Cards
like I do the Heat.
I guess if we got back to the WS again against the Cards and lit up Carp and he got really pissed, that would work though.
"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH
by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 21, 2012 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, Bob? This is Todd.
Please do me a favor. Call Jerry Jones and suggest he consider firing the GM. He might be willing to listen to someone whose organization has gotten to the CHAMPIONSHIP level TWICE in the past 15 years. I would appreciate it. If he followed that advice, I would then be able to go back to being a proud fan.
Keep living in shame...
Because guess what? When he dies, Stephen is taking over the team.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 21, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
You don't think a younger Stephen would be better than an aging and further from reality Jones?
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Stephen has a ton of pull in the organization.
He’s the one who got rid of 2.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 21, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
I heard something to this tune as well.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
I heard...
Didn’t read nor pay attention to who was saying it.
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Kinda incarcerated bob that one, didn't I?
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
Maybe its just wishful thinking
I’d like to think he’s seen how his father has screwed up what was once a great franchise, and won’t make the same mistake.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 21, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
Darvish vs. Nomo talk down here now.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
What?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Baseball Cube doesn't have Darvish's stats for 2011, either. Shit.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Anyone remember
seeing Nomo pitch? What was his repertoire and velo ranges?
He had that really funky delivery. And threw a forkball, reputedly.
WIld. Lots of Ks, lots of BBs. Nobody, including him, seemed to know where the ball was going, a lot of the time.
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Low 90's FB I believe.
As Josey likes to say… relied on deception and movement.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I don't think he got it that high.
The delivery pause and splitter made it work, though.
Que sera, sera.
I thought it was like 90-91 or so.
It may not have been.
Definitely not an overpowering guy.
Darivsh and him are nothing alike.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Pitch F/X starts with him in 2002 throwing 87 on his fastball.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
That's when he was 33.
He not have ever been a 90’s. Maybe 88-89.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Like what?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
The guys who want it don't let anything get in their way.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
It also worked for him because he was in Dodger Stadium pitching
against pussy NL hitters.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Really good his first 3 years.
My recollection is that his splitter was his best pitch.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Yeah, delivery was nuts
I saw him three times his rookie year with LA. Very long pause before delivering the ball. Darvish is nothing like that.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
I have a snapshot of his delivery in my head but don’t remember him in game action. You know, that made that kind of hitch illegal in the NPB some years ago so we’ll never see that kind of thing again…
Gross.
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ugh
now I have a different one…which takes the place of that Napoli rolled ankle trauma thank god.
interesting
never knew they outlawed that.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
Watching videos of Darvish and Nomo pitching, ran across this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLIoR_Bblbs&feature=related
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Funny that they put a batter out there to swing at the ceremonial pitch.
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yeah, what a distraction
bet she could lead the league in strikeouts based on her, ah, stuff.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
Aki Hoshino.
She married this guy:
who is something like 13 years younger than she is.
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That is very depressing news
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
I don't understand one damn thing about that photo
except he’s looking at the camera.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
The chick in the back almost looks photoshopped.
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
I was JUST thinking that.
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He's a jockey
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
that was my guess
Or jockey/puppeteer/airport runway attendant hybrid.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
Similar, from SI.com - Last two years in the NPB
Pitcher ERA G IP H ER HR BB K WHIP K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/9 Darvish 1.60 54 434 314.0 77 10 83 498 0.91 10.3 1.7 6.00 0.2 Matsuzaka 2.22 53 401.1 310 99 26 83 426 0.98 9.6 1.9 5.13 0.6 Irabu 2.47 51 360.1 266 99 N/A 131 406 1.10 10.1 3.3 3.10 N/A Ishii 2.99 58 358 273.0 119 33 146 383 1.17 9.6 3.7 2.62 0.8 Igawa 3.38 56 381.1 379 143 40 109 339 1.28 8.0 2.6 3.11 0.9 Nomo 3.68 49 357.1 N/A 146 N/A 234 402 N/A 10.1 5.9 1.72 N/A
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
These numbers look identical.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Similar except for the huge walk numbers from Nomo.
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ERA slightly different as well.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I enjoy the homeruns allowed
I saw that the league ERA was sub 3 this year though, closer to 4 in previous years. Not sure what was going on.
Deader ball.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Darvish's
velo spiked this year too so his improved #s can’t be solely attributed to the ball
K/9, BB/9, and H/9 in their last five years
Nomo (ages 21-25):
1. 10.99, 4.17, 6.40
2. 10.67, 4.67, 6.80
3. 9.47, 4.86, 6.23
4. 10.21, 5.47, 7.23
5. 9.95, 6.79, unavailable
Darvish (ages 20-24)
1. 9.10, 2.12, 5.33
2. 9.3, 2.0, 6.1
3. 8.26, 2.23, 5.84
4. 9.80, 2.08, 7.04
5. 10.7, 1.4, 6.1
Walks are the biggest difference, obviously.
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OK, K-BB, ages 21-24 for Darvish | Nomo
164 | 178
122 | 159
175 | 111
240 | 128
This leaves out Nomo’s age 25 year, which was not impressive: 114 IP, 126 K, 86 BB, for a 40 K-BB.
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This list claims Darvish has 14 pitches...
Someone needs to translate the list…
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
OK, so all in one place
(1) Straight
(2) Curve
(3) Slow curve
(4) Slider
(5) Kanji-d slider
(6) Cutter (“cutball”)
(7) Forkball
(8) Changeup
(9) Kanji-d changeup
(10) I think this says “one-seam,” but that doesn’t make much sense.
(11) Two-seamer (I’m pretty sure)
(12) Split-fingered fastball
(13) Sinker
(14) Knuckleball
If anyone out there can double-check me on this, please do.
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Thanks for doing that.
“One-seam” sounds exactly like a crazy Japanese pitch. I’m surprised there’s no “gyroball.”
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
I kinda wish he threw a palmball.
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OK, it turns out I'm not crazy.
So I’m assuming his “straight” (“suto-ree-to”) pitch is his four-seamer.
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Now, the question is...
how many of those pitches does he actually throw?
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
or
how often he throws them, kind of the same thing though…
Yes! Good call.
I can’t remember — do you speak/read?
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snark, are those hyphens (or what appear to be hyphens) actually hyphens?
or are they part of characters? I guess I’m asking if they’re using abbreviations or full words in that screen?
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
So, to answer your question: full words.
The characters are for the most part phonetic — they have phonemes assigned to them, like “fo,” or “wa.” The exceptions, here, are the kanji 高速, which as Telegraph pointed out, mean high speed — but you have to know the characters and their context to know how to pronounce them, and what they mean together. Much, much more complicated.
(And, of course, “SFF.”)
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good stuff
Interesting they used English “SFF” just for that one.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I was surprised.
My initial thought was “split-fingered fastball” is hard to write out in katakana, but they could have just called it a splitter, which is written easily enough.
Telegraph, any thoughts?
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Don't be so hard on yourself
I’m sure there’s plenty you have to offer.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
can read a bit, can understand less
can’t talk
Got it.
So I have to ask: how the heck were you able to read those? I mean, I know the kanji for “high,” but I still couldn’t make it out there. Do I need new glasses?
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9 is hard to read
but I can read 5 fine, which is “高速”, and I am pretty sure 9 is the same
Very cool
Thanks for this. Would have been nice to have someone ask about his stuff during the presser but we’ll have to wait until one of our intrepid local reporters thinks to ask about it at some point during ST.
As an aside, thinking over Colby’s NPB (2009) vs US (2010) pitch classifications, I think their technology must be identical to that which is used in the US; both have trouble distinguishing 2-seam, cutters, sinkers, changeups, and some sliders.
Pitch F/X uses profiles for distinguishing pitches.
Pitches that are inconsistently thrown or look really similar give it all kinds of fits.
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All of this stemmed from...
Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein
Somebody with more time than one should scour the web for Darvish articles and find which one says he has the most pitches.
I remembered some random Japanese guy posting the screenshot yesterday, which reminded me to post it here.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
heh
well you guys certainly ran with it. Someone should email KG. Pretty interesting stuff – stuff stuff, and cultural stuff…
No prob.
No clue what sort of technology they’re using, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it’s basically the same stuff.
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Shuuto
my understanding is that this pitch has action similar to a sinker but also different somehow (some tailing action away?). What is your guess as to which pitch is the shuuto?
That's a good question.
I’m wondering if that’s what the “high-speed changeup” is?
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(I'm surprised, though, that the shuuto isn't listed.)
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yeah me too
It’s certainly possible that not everyone throws it
Shuuto
Mike Fast might agree but it seems inconclusive (he seems to be calling it a catch all “type” which doesn’t seem right)
This article suggests it is a type of 2 seam fastball
Another take:
What Is The "Shuuto"?
The Red Sox’s recent signing of Japanese baseball star Daisuke Matsuzaka has brought the "shuuto" into the English baseball vocabulary. Although variously described as a sinker, two-seam fastball, screwball, gyroball, or splitter, the shuuto is closer to a "reverse slider" that breaks down and in on batters. According to a wikipedia article, "the shuuto is unique because it is a faster pitch with less downward break when compared to a screwball, and has less speed but more lateral break when compared to two-seam fastballs and sinking fastballs." It is more common in Japan where it was the hallmark of Japanese Hall-of-Famer Ryohei Hasegawa, who consistently froze hitters with it while pitching in the 1950s and 60s. In the states, Greg Maddux’s running fastball to left-handers has been described as a shuuto-type pitch in the way it breaks sharply down and inside the strike zone. The video clip below shows Matsuzaka throwing the shuuto while on the Seibu Lions.
Harry Pavlidis parsed his WBC pitch f/x with an interesting spin movement graph.
Straight (fastball, presumably), curve, slow curve, slider, some other slider (can't read kanji),
forkball, and this is making my eyes hurt, but I’ll keep going in a bit.
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Could the other slider be a shuuto?
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I can't make out those first two kanji, but the kana say "slider."
I don’t see anything that says “shuuto.”
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It's easy to tell that pairings 2-3, 4-5, 6-7, 8-9, and 10-11
each show a variation of the same pitch.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
That's mostly right, except for 6 and 7.
The kana you see that are the same are just “boru,” or ball.
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classifying
different speeds as pitches
Yeah, I've never been a big fan of how announcers in Japan do this.
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How much difference in speed to be deemed a different pitch?
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
That is a good question.
I don’t know the answer.
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Though
I think American announcers don’t take note of it enough. Nadel does a good job.
There is a tendency to believe that every pitch should be the same speed
Or, alternatively, that a guy taking a little off is tired.
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I do think that when Goldstein says Darvish has "two sliders"
that his slower slider is more like a curveball and his fast slider is more of a true slider. The super slow curve he throws will more than likely be eliminated, but I’d still call his slow slider a curve.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
I wouldn't mind seeing that super slow curve once or twice.
Until it was deposited in the seats.
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Maybe very rarely.
But his “slow slider/fast curve” is clearly the better curveball.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
like padilla's goofball shit
He was throwing that thing in the 50s, I couldn’t believe it.
by Colonel Travis on Jan 21, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
Ok, second column.
Changeup, some other kind of changeup with kanji I can’t make out in front of it — looks like they might be the same two kanji in front of that second slider, though. What could that be?
Four-seamer, two-seamer. SFF, whatever that is. Sinker.
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Oh, good call.
Too many syllables for it to fit on their screen in katakana…
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split finger fastball?
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Makes sense.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
You know what? That doesn't say four-seamer or two-seamer. Sorry.
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Wait, yes it does. Damn, I'm rusty, and those are small.
They say “see-mu” instead of “see-ma,” I should’ve remembered that.
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So...
WTF is the difference between the “straght” and the two-seamer and four-seamer???
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
I have no idea.
I missed one, by the way: the last one is a knuckleball.
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lol, of course Darvish has to also have a knuckleball in his arsenal.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
I wonder if we'll all be this good in 5 years.
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
Extremely doubtful.
He’ll be fluent in English long before we have any reason to learn Japanese.
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I was joking.
No chance in hell I’ll be able to read his tweets…ever.
by lost in space on Jan 21, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Katakana is easy to read once you learn it.
The real trick is figuring how the hell they transliterated things.
I’m still trying to figure out what a wa-n-shimu might be.
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To come back to this, then:
I’m guessing the straight is the four-seamer, the two-seamer is a fastball with screwball/sinker action, the sinker is distinct from that by velocity and/or motion, and the one-seamer then again.
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The article that you linked above
seems to suggest that the one-seam that Darvish broke out in 2010 is a hard sinker, no?
What are these ratings at the top of the page on Baseball Cube? How do they derive them?
Darvish: Control- 84; K-Rating- 97; Efficiency- 99; vsPower-92
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It's like a baseball game rating system.
Except everything would be 99 after I got done with it.
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x
A player is ranked compared to peers in each league for each season he has played predicated on a minimum number of at-bats. Ranked players are assigned a number ranging from 100 to 1 with equal distribution to each number. The worst player receives 1 while the best receives 100. Depending on the number of players eligible, there could be more than 1 or more than 100 assigned. For a player’s career (including the college data we have), the rankings for each rating is averaged providing a final score. For example, if a player played 2 seasons, was 1st in power in 2009 in the California League but 10th in power in 2008 in the Gulf Coast League, his Power Rating will be (100+91)/2 = 96. Since all scores are averages, there is not equal distribution between ratings.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
So who is going to play SS for the Red Sox this year if they trade Scutaro?
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Tommy Hunter is now on twitter.
As @TommyGoesBoom.
Seriously.
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"/>
not really
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Day-um, Mitch
Scored you some fine tail there, son.
Nomnomnom
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by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 21, 2012 5:58 PM CST up reply actions
lol
“I fee-ul rite-bad about this Mitch baybee but mah heart now belawngs to the luuv of my lahf [does a quick search on Boras clients] Eric Hosmer.”
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by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 21, 2012 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
I can see where you would think that but know, it's the dress/angle.
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I agree now
After seeing above. She’s not thick. The picture made her look “deep south girl fat”
A burden should never be something out of your control.
I've seen her at spring training (I think)...she's good looking.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
What did she say about the room?
"When I came off the mound the hairs were standing up on my arm. I know there's not much"
/Holland.
Welp
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
What?
That is thick to you?
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x
Glenn Howerton as Dennis Reynolds – Dennis is a co-owner of Paddy’s Pub and is Deandra’s twin brother. Possibly the most sociopathic of the characters, Dennis is narcissistic, selfish, histrionic and vain. Much of his inflated ego is perpetuated by his Ivy League education at the University of Pennsylvania.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
He went to Penn and has a twin
What more could you want?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 21, 2012 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
FIFY
Ben Taylor as Dennis Reynolds – Dennis is a co-owner of Paddy’s Pub and is Beau’s twin brother. Possibly the most sociopathic of the characters, Dennis is narcissistic, selfish, histrionic and vain. Much of his inflated ego is perpetuated by his Ivy League education at the University of Pennsylvania
I only changed three words.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
Fire Jerry Jones
"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix
crank call Mark Cuban
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Interesting that his splitter is his best pitch...
Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein
Darvish in the big leagues will likely go 2-seam FB, 4-seam FB, split (best pitch), slider, change (worst). Curve should be scrapped.
I hadn’t heard that before.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
I wonder what his sources are on this?
The classifications are tricky.
Yeah, I know he has at least 4 pitches with break or cutting action...
but only see two listed. He has a cutter (not listed), slider, slow slider (not listed, sometimes called a curve), and a slow curve (he says needs to be scrapped).
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
I though the cutter was supposed to be really good.
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Goldstein originally called the cutter his best pitch.
I wonder if he has heard some new scouting reports from people within the Rangers orgination?
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
I hadn't, either.
I’ve read that it’s hell on lefties, but I didn’t know that it was the best overall.
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I think he throws his splitter so little that there are varying reports about it.
I’ve seen a few really nasty ones and always wondered why scouts call it a below average pitch.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
Mike Maddux is going to work with Yu and Chuck Morgan on his new "rock star" pitch
which involves an overhand arm slot carefully timed with Chuck flashing a Yu nearly-nude picture on the center field screen and jumbo tron.
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by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 21, 2012 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
x
http://jimkaat.mlblogs.com/2012/01/19/will-we-finally-get-the-real-deal/
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I can't take a writer/analyst seriously if he thinks Wang is the best Asian pitcher to come to the States.
Sounds like a typical analyst who values W’s over everything else.
Per Espn Ticker- Paterno is at hospital
And asked family members to gather so he can say his final goodbyes. Health failing.
by Sam Elliott's 'stache on Jan 21, 2012 6:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Looks like Boston might have traded Scutaro so they could afford Oswalt
If true, thats not where I wanted him to end up… oh well.
If he's healthy..
then maybe not. But those lingering back problems aren’t easy to get over. Idk how well he’s going to work for them.
That's another airball three from Kidd.
Wow.
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Just watched some Game 6 highlights for the first time...
fucking kill me.
FUCK.
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by Ryin A on Jan 21, 2012 10:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Why would you do this to yourself?
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No idea...
Hate myself now.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
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