Blue Jays sign Francisco Cordero -- 1 year, $4.5 million
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2012 3:40 PM CST
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PrintThe Toronto Blue Jays have reportedly signed former Rangers closer Francisco Cordero to a one year deal worth $4.5 million, extending their string of consecutive offseasons in which they've acquired a former Ranger closer named Francisco to two.
Cordero was dealt to Milwaukee, along with Kevin Mench, Laynce Nix, and Julian Cordero, for Carlos Lee and Nelson Cruz in the summer of 2006, in the aftermath of meltdowns that cost Cordero his closer's job in Texas. Cordero then signed a four year deal with Cincinnati after the 2007 season, logging 150 saves in that stretch.
This has potential repercussions for the Rangers, because Toronto and Baltimore were the two teams who reportedly had the most interest in trading for righthanded reliever Koji Uehara. The addition of Cordero to the Blue Jay bullpen could mean that they are no longer targeting Uehara, which would give the Rangers less leverage in a potential deal.
Cordero is notable for being the last remaining piece of the ill-fated Juan Gonzalez trade still active and kicking. Cordero was a highly-regarded minor leaguer when Detroit sent him, Justin Thompson, Frank Catalanotto, Gabe Kapler, Alan Webb, and Bill Haselman to Texas for Juan Gone, Gregg Zaun, and Danny Patterson twelve years ago in a deal that didn't work out for anyone the way they had hoped.
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He's throwing off flat ground
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
He would have improved their bullpen
They have Walden and Rich Thompson and a Scott Downs that forgot how to K people
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btho Iowa State
I was kind of hoping they'd make him their closer
now that his strikeouts have plummeted and he just had a fluke babip year.
Though at only 1/4.5 he probably wouldnt have hurt them. But if he had actually gotten a 3 year deal like some people initially thought he could.. sign the Angels up for that.
So did Adam.
Adam loved him some Franky Cat.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I wonder if the Cordero sign is a result of a Uehara deal not being able to be worked out between the 2 teams
rather than Cordero causing the Rangers to have to look elsewhere for a Uehara trading partner.
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Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
If the Rangers are looking at trying to trade Uehara than I think they will. if not than yeah he’s an extra RHP in the pen but he also can help Darvish transition and give him a little group they can feel comfortable with.
thats a dumb reason to keep koji around
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
the only other reason i could think to trade him now tho
trade him for prospect and use money to sign gonzalez for our bullpen lefty
we arent that hard up for money to sign gonzalez to a ~3 million dollar deal
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
didnt mean to spend all of it..
just use the $..add lefty for bullpen and actually make payroll go down
koji is nails v. lh
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Fran-cisco
That’s fun to say
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Jan 24, 2012 4:12 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Frank Catalanotto - Rangers 2B of the future
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In 2003, Cat was a Blue Jay
And was 29.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
he did pretty well offensively for a half decade after.
Im assuming he was terrible defensively at 2b even way back then, can’t say I have any recollection.
I was young then but I believe he was used in left field by the Jays. I remember him fondly.
As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
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Then go with 2001
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Ranking Anthony Gose above d’Arnaud just reeks of doing something different just to do something different.
And Marsinick at 7?
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btho Iowa State
i don't know why i click on his stuff anymore
it doesn’t do anything but aggravate me
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dSoldevila Dionisio Soldevila
Yoenis Cespedes is officially a free agent. Has finally received his Dominican residency permit. MLB teams asked him to stop playing in DR
I don't think this is true.
The two things don’t necessarily happen that quickly. I’d wait for MLB to confirm.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Jesse Sanchez said it should go quick.
But this needs confirmation.
Want some Cespedes.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
What if we moved Hamilton to 1B after next season (extending him, of course) to protect him
And then go Cespedes, Leonys, Cruz in the OF?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Gentry as the 4th OF.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I had that very thought...
But didn’t want to vocalize it…
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
If we're going to pay him, I'd rather pay him to play first than LF
Even considering how much more is expected of him offensively at 1B. He would undoubtedly stay healthier there.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
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I like this idea.
Then maybe go after Soler as well.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
My concern goes back to Adam's article.
And if his bat will hold up given how impatient he is.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'm assuming we extend him no matter what because our owners decide we have to keep him.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I don't think that's true.
I don’t think the owners would push like that against FO wishes.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I've always been in favor of giving Hamilton a go at 1b.
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"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I don't know that it will work out well for the team
IF he can put up another elite season with the bat this year, that would give me a lot more confidence that he could hit well enough to play 1B and still be a huge plus for this team despite the likely poor defense at 1B. He would probably be healthier there, but I have heavy doubts he would come close to being worth the price tag at that point. Otherwise, we might be paying something like 15-20 million a year for a player with a 4 WAR ceiling.
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Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
I would not want to pay Cespedes bonus
Not worth it
by dumdum000333 on Jan 24, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
How do you know he's not worth it?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
He wants more than Chapman
And I’m not that impressed by him. Let someone else pay the 30 million+ we took our gamble with Martin.
by dumdum000333 on Jan 24, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
How much scouting have you done on him?
Been in the DR recently?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
No... but I'm willing to trust the Rangers scouts...
And not decide that he’s “not worth it”.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I will trust the Rangers scouts too
I don’t think they will sign him
by dumdum000333 on Jan 24, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
Well I don't think they'll sign him either...
But that’s a big difference from saying he isn’t worth it.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
If they aren't willing to pay the bonus money
Then they do not think he is worth the value to the team or they are in a financial bind.
by dumdum000333 on Jan 24, 2012 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
Wonder who was coming back our way?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I'm fine with this
but Koji needs to stop making comments about wanting to go back to Baltimore. It’s not cool if he keeps hinting that he doesn’t want to be here and still vetoed the trade. Maybe being around Darvish and Tateyama from the beginning of the season will help him be more comfortable.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
Fucking Koji, what a pieca shit
rejecting a trade is a bitch move for someone making $4 mil a year. Can the Rangers trade him to some shitter league in some 3rd world country?
That's why a player wants a no-trade clause
So they can control where they go. I see no reason to rail at a guy over it.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
of course it's his right, but he can also go fuck himself for being a pieca shit
that would be my right as a fan to express my displeasure at his actions, in my drunken state, unreasonable as it may be
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure in your employment...
You defer to the best interests of your employer in every compensation based conversation.
You probably don’t even take vacation days.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
holy shit man, you're really going all out with this shit
my whole point was that fans shouldn’t have to be all giddy about a player on their respective team declining a trade that would help your team due to his “no trade” rights.
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
Who is giddy about it?
He rejected the trade. We still have him. We move on.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Indeed.
It was a right of his contract he negotiated and he exercised it.
Why would I get mad at him for that?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
he doesn't dig Texas either, apparently
but that’s his right
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
also, Canada ain't too shabby
cold as fuck outside right now, but you can’t beat hockey over a frozen lake
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
Can you skate?
I should have gotten you to teach me to skate.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
that's why I really wanna know who would've been coming back
from Toronto, if it had gone through
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
It probably would be less than we paid for him,
and the numbers suggest he will be better next year. So I would rather have him and, if we trade him later, trade him for value. The hissy fits in the next threads are irrational.
Davis and Hunter?
Rangers would get less back than that? highly, highly impossible
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
No.
Rejecting a trade is perfectly within his right. Shut up.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
It's part of his compensation.
He might have cost even more without that provision. Not sure why anyone would begrudge him his rights.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
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