No Uehara to Toronto
Koji Uehara has reportedly refused to waive his no-trade clause to accommodate a trade to Toronto.
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Fuck him
He doesn’t like it here but rejects a trade to get him out of here. That said I wonder what player was coming back our way?
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yea, hmm, I wonder if he just wants to pitch in the spot light of yu?
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I'd rather keep him anyway...
Now, if this means the Rangers end up getting a worse deal if they unload him somewhere he will go, then yes.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
this is pretty much my sentiments
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I am going back and forth on whether on I want to find out what the deal was before Koji beheaded it
Jeff Mathis
and his unworldly .920 2012 OPS.
by robert_d_wilfong on Jan 24, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
This is what I was saying elsewhere.
Folks read it in terms of the Fielder signing, but given how that unfolded, that’s not at all the point.
The point is that the Rangers apparently had a deal they liked for Uehara, and despite his kvetching last season, he nuked it.
I’m not particularly happy with him.
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yes, fuck him, I got grilled in the last thread for not wanting to suck Koji's cock for exercising his right
why do Rangers fans have to be happy with his decision? JD clearly wanted to move him to help the Rangers and Koji rejected the trade.
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
Because JD traded for him with a contract that gave him the right to not accept a trade to Toronto?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
yes, I agree with the logistics
but doesn’t mean we have to accept it so candidly
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
Again, you seem to think people are giddy about him doing this.
Who is reacting that way? Who is happy about this trade falling through?
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why aren't more people upset at Koji for, in a sense, screwing the Rangers over
by not accepting the trade. Rather than just accepting his “right to refuse” the trade.
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
How did this screw the Rangers over?
We may look back in a few years and thank the good lord that Koji decided to stay.
How the hell does that screw the Rangers over?
If you think him turning down a trade the Jays screws us, you don’t have much confidence in our front office.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
This makes no sense. None.
The FO wanted to deal him (exact reasons being somewhat unclear, no?). Koji prevented that from happening. That he was exercising a bargained-for contractual right doesn’t insulate him from the charge that he’s interfered with the way our FO wanted this thing to go down.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
OH NOES!!!!
Prince Fielder fucked us over today too!!! He didn’t accept our offer!!!
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
OH NOES!!!!
You failed the parallel the reasoning game.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Too many the's.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
The front office made Prince an offer.
Him agreeing was their intent and would have made the team better.
By declining that agreement within his right, he has harmed the team.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Did the Rangers want to sign Prince Fielder?
Was that their goal?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I don't know. Neither do you.
Did Koji Uehara complain about being in Texas last season?
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Yes, really.
I’m not arguing he asked to be traded. But what he wrote about Texas, and his feelings about being there and performing there, were definitely complaints.
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I recall him saying he missed Baltimore and was having trouble figuring out how to get out of his funk after being traded...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
There was more than that.
Heat, living conditions, and so forth. Wasn’t sure he was happy with his job. That sort of thing.
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I took the wasn't sure he was happy with his job to be sort of tongue and cheek and awkwardness about not coming in and being awesome immediately...
but perhaps I am wrong.
I also think Koji will be pretty good next season and I was hoping he would still be a Ranger, but, I could wrong about that too.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
I think Uehara could be good in 2012.
I didn’t see anything tongue in cheek in what I read. Now, maybe he’s changed his mind, and really, really wants to pitch for Texas.
But then the decision to try to trade him to Toronto seems fairly odd, doesn’t it?
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More likely
Toronto was the only one offering any sort of return at all.
Daniels commented earlier in the winter that teams were trying to get him but they weren’t going to give him away.
I think many wanted to buy low on him since he’s had ridiculous peripherals and the Rangers rightly didn’t want to sell low.
The Jays may have offered actual value… and have been the only one.
The O’s had interest too but apparently both sides are far apart.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
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(I hate it when I accidentally click out…)
I don’t think you’re disagreeing with scoop, here.
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Well...
I doubt we were getting anything “really nice”.
Just probably more than absolute garbage for a salary dump.
Maybe we were getting a B level prospect.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
.
But then the decision to try to trade him to Toronto seems fairly odd, doesn’t it?
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Perhaps they want to clear some salary
Because of somewhat log jam of RH relief pitchers.
Koji didn’t transition well… and he’s $4M… makes him a likely candidate.
We listen to offers all winter… but we’re getting C level prospects and aren’t interested.
Toronto offers a B… I wouldn’t call that a “nice return”… I think of “nice return” as something you go, “Sweet”.
I think we may have gotten return that we didn’t immediately go “WTF?!?!?!?!”
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
As it turns out,
we should read more carefully.
The linked article claims that the talks never advanced because Uehara rejected the deal to Toronto.
If that’s true, there was no B prospect agreed upon, because they hadn’t gotten far enough along…
… and that takes a lot of the wind out of my annoyance.
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And the only reason anyone knows about it.
Was because Koji (or his people) told the Japanese media that he was asked if he would accept a trade to Toronto.
American media may have never known otherwise.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
We wouldn't be raging about it.
Maybe the Rangers have talked to teams about trading him several times… but because they weren’t on his NTC, Koji never knew about it.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'm not raging about it.
That still doesn’t change the fact that if the Rangers are trying to move him that badly, given his salary and past and potential performance, something is odd here — wouldn’t you say?
Something that suggests the Rangers are not simply trying to trade a valuable trade chip for maximum value?
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I don't think we know
How badly the Rangers are trying to move him.
I don’t think it can be that badly since he’s still here.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
OK.
Do we at least agree that Uehara’s peripherals, even in Texas suggest he should be good in 2012 barring a continued astronomical long-ball rate… and that his past performance suggests that at $4M, he represents at least a couple million of surplus value to a team that could use bullpen stability?
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That was my assumption yes.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
So then why do you think
they’d still be actively talking to teams about trading him, if you think the best offer they’re getting is a B prospect?
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Either salary is really tighter than we know
Or Koji has strongly requested a trade.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
If salary is that tight,
how could the Rangers be serious about signing Fielder? There was zero possibility he’d accept $4M or less for 2012, right?
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My assumption was the move was
Preempting a salary acquisition.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
What move?
The Uehara move?
That’s what I’m saying: even if you dump $4M in salary, if you’re so tight that you still need to get rid of Uehara, how does that clear enough room for Fielder?
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Rangers were gonna top Detroit's offer...
… until Koji nixed the trade.
That $4m made all the difference…
Toronto has some baller B level prospects.
Wouldn’t mind tapping up that farm system.
Like whom?
Who do you figure’s fair return for Uehara, if you set any dissatisfaction in Texas aside?
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I agree with you on the first and third,
but I can’t imagine the Blue Jays putting them out there for Uehara, can you?
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Not now.
Marisnick would have surprised me. Syndergaard is so far away that I could see him being on the table. Hutchison doesn’t fit the MO of a typical Daniels target, but he’s a personal fave. He doesn’t have the sexiest FB but his command is excellent and he’s close to being ready as a 21 year old.
Higher floor.
Again, probably not a Daniels target but someone I wouldn’t mind getting back.
True.
But that seems to be the opposite of what people are arguing here.
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It's all kind of odd, really...
It seems like if he asked to be traded they’d have discussed if Toronto would be viable before getting down this road far enough that we’d know about it.
And if he’s just a guy they liked but the Blue Jays liked him better and offered a decent package, then I still can’t really begrudge Koji personally because the Rangers acquired him knowing full well he could say no to the Blue Jays.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
I do know.
Jon Daniels specifically said they would like to sign him.
Thad Levine said it would not be for a lack of effort or creativity.
We made an offer.
Koji lamented his poor performance and the challenge of adapting to a new area.
Are you really unsure whether or not the Rangers attempted to sign Prince Fielder?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
No, I'm not unsure about that.
What I’m arguing is that you don’t know if Fielder declining the Rangers’ offer harmed them.
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You don't know that Koji declining the trade harmed them either.
Since you don’t know the exact terms. All you know is the Rangers attempted to trade him and were unable to because a player exercised his contractual right.
We also know the Rangers attempted to sign Prince Fielder and were unable because he exercised his contractual (from a CBA perspective) right of free agency.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Sure I do.
I know the Rangers wanted to make a trade. I don’t know how much the Rangers wanted Fielder, or how seriously engaged they were in negotiations with him — how far along their talks were. Based on the public comments, not very. And, of course, there was nothing to lead them to believe that Fielder would really want to come to Texas, everything else being equal.
On the other hand, they apparently had an agreement worked out with Toronto. They worked on that trade for a reason. It would surprise me if part of that reason wasn’t Uehara’s expression of unhappiness in Texas, and his desire to be back in Baltimore. Uehara deciding to veto a trade that the Rangers had worked out to their apparent satisfaction is certainly within his rights. But given the context, I can certainly be reasonably unhappy with how he’s conducted his business.
I have no such feelings about Fielder.
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I think the Rangers
Were much more interested in acquiring Fielder for terms they could live with than they were getting rid of Koji on terms they could live with.
You can feel whatever emotion you choose. You’re a fan.
But I don’t think Koji was any more harmful in his conduct than Prince not agreeing to sign with us for what we offered.
I’m sure the Rangers had great interest… not enough for the ridiculous contract… but enough that there were told they weren’t in the running on the day before signing. That’s not insignificant.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Again, that last paragraph
doesn’t have any real evidence to support it, at the moment.
On the other hand, Uehara apparently vetoed a trade that would’ve gone through without his veto, right?
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We have as much evidence to support my last paragraph
As that.
Last night a Toronto sports guy said he was looking into it after the first Japanese rumors broke and said the deal wasn’t done because the Rangers wanted too much.
We only have “news” that he vetoed. Same as the “news” that the Rangers were going hard (Rosenthal) and a finalist (Heyman) and very interested (Nightengale) and not for a lack of creativity (Levine in an interview) for Fielder.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
But you are focusing on the wrong thing
Imagine the Rangers really wanted to sign X for 2yr/30M and X rejected it because he wanted to play in New York for the same money? Isn’t that the same thing?
Of course, you could be mad at X, too
by ab03 on Jan 24, 2012 10:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
First, I'm not mad at Uehara.
But I feel similarly about this as I do about Young’s public pouting and subsequent comments.
Again, maybe Uehara’s changed his tune, but if so, I haven’t seen him do it publicly. The last I saw from him, it was kvetching about being in Texas.
I’m not going to run around saying “fuck that guy,” but I also don’t see any reason I should be neutral about his rejecting a trade Texas wanted to pull the trigger on, after the comments he made.
Maybe I should just let those comments go.
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But, this is interesting:
A report in Japan said Uehara didn’t want to move his family from Baltimore to Toronto.
So I guess the question going forward is: where is Uehara willing to move his family to?
Because I have a very hard time believing Texas is working to trade him just because of a $4M salary dump.
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Wait, would you be mad at X?
I don’t really know how to interpret the comments because I don’t think there is a clear quote saying he hated it here.
But assuming he did, I don’t see how it really affects the thinking. It’s still just exercising his self interested right.
I was mad at Palmeiro because it was for like 3 months but a year seems like a long enough time.
by ab03 on Jan 24, 2012 10:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No, I wouldn't be mad at X.
I might be annoyed, though, if he’d talked about how he’d really wanted to play in Texas before passing up a Rangers offer that was equal to the New York offer.
Uehara never stated that he hated it in Texas. But his blog entries (and the media reports) made it fairly clear he was not a happy camper with the Rangers.
It’s possible the only place he wouldn’t be unhappy is Baltimore, but that still doesn’t make me particularly happy that he’s resisting the Rangers attempts to deal him.
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I think it has to do...
…with a couple of initial “he’s a piece of shit” posts that triggered this sort of response.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
Because he isn't screwing over the Rangers...
The Rangers knew he had a no-trade.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
ok, he didn't screw over the Rangers
but the Rangers got screwed over, as in they failed to accomplish what they set out to do, i.e. send him to Toronto
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
So any time a player does something that isn't exactly what the front office wants...
They screwed over the Rangers and are a piece of shit. Got it.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yea.
Don’t you remember that rat bastard Raffy? Screwed us hard in the arse. We hated him ever since.
Where is Benji Gil when you need him.
by rangerknight on Jan 24, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
My brother resents Larry Walker.
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Roy Halladay?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
He's a Rockies fan.
And he watches Rangers games with me, and it does not bother him one bit that Ian Kinsler wears his hat backwards.
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by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
There's a MY subthread bubbling under the surface here.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2012 10:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
There's an every player subthread.
Holland doesn’t take the extension we offered? Screwed us over.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Not until..
he leaves us for the Reds.
Where is Benji Gil when you need him.
by rangerknight on Jan 24, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
CJ, too!!!!
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
They didn't want to sign him regardless.
Him leaving pretty much was the desired outcome by the front office.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yeah...I was just going with the flow.....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
We shouldn't be mad at Koji for that, though...
The Rangers knew that was a possibility.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
holy fuckin shit, I'm too drunk to defend my drunken stances
I give up, you all win. Koji has a right to facefuck whoever he wants
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
Not whoever he wants.
Just the Rangers.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
He didn't screw anyone over.
He made a choice he has a right to make. You don’t even know who he was going to be traded for.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
That he made a choice he had a contractual right *does not* insulate him from the charge that he screwed the Rangers over.
At best, he was complicit in the Rangers’ screwing themselves over. This, of course, assumes that we were dealing him in an effort to improve the team, rather than because he requested a trade.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Doesnt the term "screwing one over" tend to mean something big?
Trading a relief pitcher for a couple of other players doesnt constitute “screwing over” does it? Does how whole season come down to this trade?
There is a difference between things not working out the way the team wanted
And “screwing [the team] over.” That implies malice.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
And if the Rangers wanted a guarantee that they could get what they wanted...
they shouldn’t have traded for a guy who could veto another trade.
That’s what I don’t get about directing this rage at Koji.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
I'm curious whether your opinion changes if it turns out Koji requested he be dealt.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Not if he didn't want to go to Toronto.
But that’d be hugely speculative.
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And thats all we can do, Speculate.
This is all just a guessing game for us
I agree.
But I know what Uehara wrote (based on the translations, at least), and that’s not speculative.
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Then I'd be disappointed in the Rangers...
For not finding out whether he’d accept a trade to Toronto when they know he can veto it beforehand.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Well, that's disappointing whether he requested the trade or not, right?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I wouldn't be surprised if he did...
But I’d be pretty annoyed that the Rangers were making themselves potentially worse instead of trying to work something out.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
I want him here too.
But the guy’s human. He may not be the same pitcher if he doesn’t want to be here.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
saw your post from the other thread, yes I can skate
you’ll be back in Bay Area anytime soon? or in Austin for good?
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
Austin for good for now...
But I really want to go back to the Bay for the Giants/A’s series the Rangers are having back to back during the summer.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
that's be awesome, I've been in Toronto for the last few months
but I’ll be heading back to either SF or Tampa soon. Hopefully I can make the TGIV though, was awesome with the BARF folk there, last time
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Yes it was...
Also, if you go to Tampa, you can hang out with Robbie.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
oh ya, the Rangers crew is everywhere
Bay Area to Austin? not much difference?
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
I missed the Bay Area quite a bit...
especially during the summer. But, Austin has its niceties.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
can't beat the $10 A's/Rangers games
and those $5 “The City” t-shirts. Plus the whole “Golden Gate Bridge” everyone keeps harping about.
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
Whereas, Austin has a BBQ place called Franklin's that is good...
and a movie theater that will kick you out and make fun of you if they catch you using your phone.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
I still can't believe she called in and left that voice mail.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
And in doing so...
made it that air-headed sounding.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not imputing any malice to Koji.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Can you show specific harm done by Koji?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Exercising a contractual right that interfered with the FO's desired course of business?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
The Rangers traded for someone with that contractual right as a part of their desired course of business, though...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
This is a bit like saying that Koji's (very limited) NTC
Was something the organization bargained for. That seems unlikely to me, but I admit to not knowing exactly how such an issue could affect negotiations.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Interfering with a desired course of business...
With an agreed upon contractual option is doing harm?
I think there should be more lawsuits then. That happens a lot in the course of business where I work. I should contact the legal department.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yes, it's doing harm. It may not be legally actionable harm, but it's harm nonetheless.
Can Koji only harm the team in a case where he’s violated the law?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Did Koji do the harm?
Or did the Orioles do the harm when they gave him the limited no-trade?
Or did the Rangers do the harm when they traded for him, knowing that he had a limited no-trade?
Mike Olt would be appalled by
the vitriol in this thread….he’s waiting for the right time to step in and be the voice of reason.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
It's possible the Rangers did themselves the harm
But I think their (i.e. the Rangers’) percentage of fault is driven to a large degree by whether Koji asked to be dealt.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Even if he did ask to be traded.
The Rangers are under no obligation to trade him. Nor could you assume his performance would definitely suffer if he didn’t.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
"Nor could you assume his performance would *definitely* suffer..." (emphasis added)
Let’s not impose an impossible burden for me to meet, ok?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Are you certain he asked to be dealt to anyone?
Because that is the only way your stance on this issue works.
By that line of reasoning...
Any player who is overpaid and doesn’t retire is doing the Rangers harm by not performing at a level adequate to their compensation.
Fuckers.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I feel like I must be crazy here.
Like, I’m missing something simple. Because I find myself on the side of a debate opposite people I’m usually down with.
WTF.
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Are you angry with Koji?
Do you think he’s a piece of shit for exercising his option?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
No.
But I do think he screwed the Rangers up. Not in any way that will impact my sleep at night.
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It's the lack of material impact
That makes me think there’s no actual harm.
What is the worst case scenario of harm by the Rangers not trading him to the Blue Jays?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I guess Koji is a mental mess and is never good for the Rangers...
and we find out who the Rangers were going to get in the trade and he becomes a value player.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
Then the Rangers shouldn't have traded for him...
It’s not like it’s a surprise that he could say no to a trade to Toronto.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
The idea that he "screwed" the team does, though.
And that’s what I’m arguing against.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
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I actually agree with JDT. It's a weird feeling.
I’m not pissed at him and I don’t think he’s a shit head or anything, though. I just don’t think “he messed with the Rangers’ plans” and “he has the right” are mutually exclusive.
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I actually agree with that.
Because those things are both factual.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I actually agree with what you are saying.
I just don’t feel that we need to be so ugly about how we are expressing it.
Yeah, the boiling hate in this thread is a bit shocking
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Yeah...I don't get it either....
I like Koji and want him on the team next season….I would like to see be the guy that they traded for rather than what we saw a lot of the time last season.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
Like I said. I want Koji. I don't want to be ugly about it.
But if he doesn’t want to be here, I don’t want him here. And I sure as hell don’t want to read AJM defend a disinterested player for the millionth time.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Then I'm just very lost.
Should I read more of this thread?
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I haven't gotten far enoug hto see ugliness.
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The previous thread before AJM created this one.
Started with Baseball North pointing out what a “fucking piece of shit” Koji was for vetoing the trade.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I think the front office could over come a 6 team list NTC
To achieve their business if needed. Unless Toronto was going to give us something fantastic… which I doubt given the “sell low” state of Uehara right now.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I want the Rangers to get their way, too...
but I just can’t get mad at the player when the team acquired him knowing he had the right.
Perhaps we should hate the game, not the player.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
We all knew he had a no-trade though, including JD...
If anything, not accepting a trade shows that he does want to be here somewhat.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
even though he clearly stated he would rather be in Baltimore?
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
Clearly?
One report from the Orioles version of Gina Miller is clearly stating it?
Does this mean Mike Napoli has clearly stated he’s a homosexual because our Gina Miller picked his walk up music?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Napoli could get a man pregnant....I'm convinced of it.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Did someone say..
homo sex?
Where is Benji Gil when you need him.
by rangerknight on Jan 24, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
And thats the point I think people are missing
If he really didnt want to be here, I would imagine her would have waived it to just get out of here
That's great and all, but maybe Uehara should've toned down the "it's so hot here" shtick?
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Touche
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
hahaha I was Koji-ing out this summer, too!
I feel his pain! I’m a sensitive, delicate flower!
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
The traffic's not so bad...
It’s probably bad traffic compared to Arkansas, though.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
So overblown.
Cliff Lee should try driving through Chicago during rush hour.
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No one has said the fans have to be happy with his decision.
But it doesn’t give you right to be hateful towards him. He is a person too.
holy shit, didn't know he was so sensitive
$4 mil buys a lot of hate protection
by Baseball North on Jan 24, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
I dont know if he is or isnt.
But why keep trying to find out if he is?
So you get to be a jackass because the guy makes a lot of money?
It’s people like you that end up accosting players after they get off airplanes and then bitching because you feel entitled.
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I didn't know being an athlete
Meant you had to acquiesce to the desires of deranged fans or get hated.
Actually I didn’t know that. Fucking deranged fans.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
OH NOES WE'RE STUCK WITH A GOOD RELIEF PITCHER WITH MINISCULE PLATOON SPLITS
WHAT HORROR
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by LSJ on Jan 24, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe a left handed reliever in return?
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, you guys.
I get it now.
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by philkid3 on Jan 24, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He a bitch
You know he’s only going to accept a trade back to B’more. Hasn’t he made it known that’s where he wants to be?
Isn't this where you..
Invite him to have sexual relations with his translator’s anus?
Where is Benji Gil when you need him.
by rangerknight on Jan 24, 2012 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
Then finish it by inviting him
to a gay bukkake with all the other failed Japanese pitchers. The ghost of Irabu, Nomo and Dice K giving him a nice splash.
Where is Benji Gil when you need him.
by rangerknight on Jan 24, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
Chan Ho would come to but he might choose wrong type of splattering
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
Yes but he wouldn't
be invited. This is a Jap only party.
Where is Benji Gil when you need him.
by rangerknight on Jan 25, 2012 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
He doesn't have a full no-trade clause.
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Fuck Koji.
You want out, the Ramgers tried to accommodate you and you do this? He’s The anti-Face.
by TheGritMaster on Jan 24, 2012 9:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions
You really think the Rangers were trying to trade him to Toronto to "accommodate" him?
He has a six team no trade clause. The Blue Jays are one of the teams.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
Thats quite an ugly response
The team tried to trade him to a team he had a right to decline a trade to. Oh well. Don’t begrudge him for doing something that he had right to.
You are correct but...
He needs to quit saying he wants out of Texas and wants to go back to the O’s.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Pretty much this.
It’s his right to reject the trade, but the Rangers have no reason to honor his wish to be traded (if that is definitely the case) if they’re going to lose leverage.
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To be completely fair, he was reported to have said that only once
and have said that he will do his best to pitch for Texas ever since. We have reasons to believe that he is not entirely happy in Texas, but I don’t think he has continuously said that he wanted out of Texas.
Does it matter?
Once is enough. You can tell he doesn’t want to be here.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
He just looked like he didn't want to be here
At times when you say him in the dugout.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
How do you know thats what was wrong?
Maybe he was constipated. Maybe he was just feeling down because of some other reason?
Maybe you are just being an ass.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
And maybe you're making rediculous assumptions.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Maybe I'm being like you?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I don't recall ever going nuclear on a player because I didn't like the way he looked in the dugout
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
No you are just negative 90% of the time
I’m just being negative about Koji.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Ah yes, clearly
Being an unreasonable ass about a single issue for no tangible reason is much more forgivable than voicing legitimate concerns on a consistent basis.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Vincente Padilla
smirking in the dugout when the Yankees retaliated against us because he had beaned them the half inning prior.
I went nuclear then.
by RyanBlueThunder on Jan 25, 2012 8:33 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe
You don’t know for sure though do you?
And that’s my point. You cant make a sweeping generalization just because that’s what you think or what you feel.
I know one thing
He said at least once he doesn’t want to be here.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Oops hit the button too fast (twss)
People change their minds. I would have thought he would like a trade there. I think Toronto is a great city. I’m surprised it was on his no trade list.
I’m glad to have him and I don’t think he will be anything less than professional while he is here.
Wasn't it only once?
Ever want to not go to work one day even when you had a badass job? Maybe it was one bad day.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
Michael Young's said it twice
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
Then goes out and plays his ass off.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
So you're assumption is Koji didn't
One could argue they had equally shitty postseasons.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
Are you seriously this pissed at Koji?
Seriously, youve not once had a bad day?
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
Just annoyed
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
That's like still holding it against Feliz for saying he doesn't want to start
he was having a bad time. If he wants to be here now, that’s great, imo.
No Happy wants to be here.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I don't know or care
He has done more for this team than Koji has and he wants to be a Ranger. MY bitches but plays his ass off.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I'm saying people can change their minds.
He pitched his ass off to end the regular season and was pumped to make the postseason roster.
Ok
So he just needs to shut up and do his job. That is all I’m saying.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Ok do a good job not a half assed shitty job.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
So you're saying you actually think he pitched poorly on purpose after coming over?
Why?
What evidence is there of this?
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
No I think he needs to get his shit straight
And pitch like he did in Baltimore.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Exactly. Tell that fuckface to just pitch better. That should fix everything.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2012 10:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Needs to get his head straight with ball
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Did you honestly not remember the times he came out of games super pumped up?
You honestly think he wasn’t trying?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
I do
I just want him to pitch better that is all.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Best xFIP on the team by far.
He hasn’t pitched long enough to know how much truth there is to his HR/FB, but I’m fairly confident that 25% isn’t his true talent.
I actually felt really bad for him during the season when he was struggling
he wrote on his blog that he didn’t know what to do to fix things, so he just started jogging and he didn’t know why he was doing that.
Yeah...
I remember feeling bad for some GDT maddings after finding out he was just feeling kind of lost.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
I feel bad for Rangers fans
For having to watch Lowe pitch in the WS instead of Koji. If Koji could have figured out what was wrong it might have been different. IMO
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Oh, so it's just a relief pitchers pitch in high leverage situations thing with you?
Did you also hate Frank Francisco?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
Nope.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
And you forget I hate Taylor Tea as well.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Just a bad last 3 days
I had to put my dog down the other night. He was 13 but so much part of our family.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
On the list of people whose fault it is we lost the World Series, or even game 6
Koji Uehara’s name would be so far down it’s irrelevant.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Do you not read?
I’m saying I would rather have Koji than Lowe if he was pitching better.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
And I'm saying I don't really
Care what you have to say LSJ. This is my opinion and he needs to pitch better.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
How much of his HR problem last year do you think was real?
by AsDevilsRun on Jan 24, 2012 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
Perception..
is reality until its proven not to be.
Where is Benji Gil when you need him.
by rangerknight on Jan 24, 2012 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
Not in..
Texas as of yet.
Where is Benji Gil when you need him.
by rangerknight on Jan 24, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
So you think a 25% HR/FB is what can be expected of him?
I’ll keep that in mind.
by AsDevilsRun on Jan 24, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
This is AJM's bit.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
twice*
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
He complained about his unhappiness in Texas at least a few times last season.
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That is dumb.
Stop it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
"anti-Face"
because Young publicly demanded a trade… twice. Koji never has, save a single report from a Baltimore writer that was never verified by anybody.
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damn
didn’t realize his peripherals were so nasty post trade. i don’t mind keeping him around at all..
He'll be fine.
And we’ll be glad we have him.
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I don't undestand why some of you morons are upset
I’d bet Koji has a much better chance to contribute significantly to the club this year than whatever Toronto was offering for him.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Look I don't care what he does
Just pitch like you can and shut up.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I don't understand why you're upset.
Did he come out and trash the team or something today? Did he threaten to start blowing games in the 7th inning if he wasn’t traded?
I’m as inclined to believe he would prefer to be traded as anyone, but I’m failing to understand why we should be upset about that.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Except, he doesn't want to be in Texas, and made that very clear in September and October of last year.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
VERY CLEAR
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
He just rubs me the wrong way
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Speaking of....
So glad Larry Walker turned down that trade.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Have an honest discussion with him.
Tell him what he’s doing wrong. I’m sure he just wants you to be satisfied and the fact you’re not could be affecting your relationship.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2012 10:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Redneck levels of hate
I don’t think he’s said he didn’t want to be here. That was only reported by an Orioles beat guy. I believe Uehara has only said that it was tough adjusting to a new team after years in Baltimore.
by LiamP on Jan 24, 2012 9:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Is this how you feel about Lamar Odom?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Adjusting to a new team.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
No, I'm asking how they feel about his play.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
He hasn't been good
and part of that is adjusting to a new team after being involved in the triangle offense all these years in LA, yes.
I missed most of last nite.
Heard on the radio that Rick gave him a benching, and he came out better in the 2nd.
Que sera, sera.
Fine
They both need to play better.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
And if this is the level of crap he gets...
I couldn’t blame him for not wanting to be here.
What’s even weirder is him being on the Rangers makes the Rangers better. It’s not like getting rid of Raffy or Kenny Rogers at the trading deadline in a losing year.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
I just don't understand the source of people's hate.
It’s in his contract. He’s within every right to deny the trade. It’s not in bad faith toward the Rangers, it’s just a business deal. People get so worked up about this stuff.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
by jam0152 on Jan 24, 2012 9:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's been suggested he didn't want to move his family.
Which is completely reasonable.
by Giant Space Ants on Jan 24, 2012 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
I'm curious as to what the Rangers would have got in return.
Though I wouldn’t think it’d be a whole lot, so this is probably a good thing.
by Giant Space Ants on Jan 24, 2012 9:47 PM CST reply actions
I am as well
I think the return would have been better than you would think. He is a great relief pitcher.
I’m also curious as to the other teams on his "no trade’ clause are.
I agree he's really good.
Just not sure they would get something more valuable in return. Though JD could probably find a way.
by Giant Space Ants on Jan 24, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
I think the talks might not have gotten far enough for any kind of deal to form
Since Koji had only 6 teams on his no trade list, they had to have talked with Koji about going to Toronto pretty early into the discussions or else they’re just wasting their time.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
let's relink this thread
when koji, yoshi, and yu have god tier years. let’s call them super brothers
Why haven't they put out another Jet Grind Radio sequel!?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
Welp
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
yes, and i'm reading the posts out loud at the top of my lungs
to increase the level of retardation.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
This is probably the worst I've ever read.
Seriously, Koji effing Uehara, brings this level of angry out? He’s one of about 40 pitchers we have right now that are viable options. Christalmighty.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
He just stopped the Rangers from getting Rasmus!
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
Dangit, you're right!
He’s a bad person and will make Yu a shitty pitcher. He’s a witch. Burn him!
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
O GRATE
First Pearl Harbor, now this! Thanks A LOT Koji.
/LSB
If Koji had performed better in his time here, the vitriol wouldn't exist.
That’s the biggest problem here, people’s appreciation of his decision is being colored by his performance.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Those dingers are a bitch.
It’s the same with C.J.’s playoffs.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
CJ was fantastic in the regular season
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
What were you saying a few days ago about throwing Molotov cocktails?
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
Upon further review, I'll agree.
I see CJ and your name and I know there’s a debate about to get fired up but you are correct. CJs shitty playofffs don’t make him a bad pitcher and Koji’s bad outings don’t make him one either.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
And CJ was very good in the 2010 playoffs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
You like cliches...
Do you think it was a fluke that C.J. had a bad playoffs in 2011… or was it easier in 2010 because he wasn’t the “Ace” and Cliff Lee had that burden?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Nevermind. He was good in the 2010 playoffs
But this is clearly your opening to we effed up letting him go, right?
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
I have no idea why CJ scuffled in the 2011 post-season....why was Beltre so terrible
in Detroit and St.Louis in the post-season?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not the guy that says things like "On the Biggest Stage" or "Brightest Lights"
I was curious if you had an actual thought on that… if you have no idea I’m assuming you don’t think it was the “Ace” burden.
I don’t either… but again… I don’t say things like that.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Whether or not you say things like that doesn't give us insight
into CJ or Beltre’s post-season struggles.
It just happened.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
But he hit three home runs in a single game.
That’ll be my new mantra, a la when MY left it was 7-4. Any Beltre criticism will be answered with “he hit three home runs in a single game”.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
While we're asking questions?
Why did Michael Young put up a .299 OBP on the road in 2010? Was it because he hits on the road well?
Why is his career road OBP .326?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Michael Young had a below standard year in 2010.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
How about his career road OBP of .326...
Is that good?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Well that sucks.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Didn't you insinuate earlier today that Michael Young had a great year
of hitting in 2011?
You said Beltre was “great” 4 of the 6 months he played and that includes his April .830ish OPS…Young had an .850ish OPS for the entire season (including August)…do you wanna come clean and now tell LSB that Michael Young was a great hitter in 2011?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
Nobody is talking about Adrian Beltre or Michael Young...
stop bringing them up in every thread just to get Matchst1ck to engage in this with you.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
No... I brought it up.
I’m trolling him.
As long as he keeps saying Beltre can’t hit on the road I’m going to keep pointing out how wrong he is.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
You're okay, Stick...somebody with the cajones to
stand up and tell the truth.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
I like how you call him "Stick", like you're tight and all.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Ed Coffin used to babble a lot of bullshit but he
had one nugget that I held on to…You don’t know what you don’t know.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
Isn't that
one of the 8:40 bits on the ticket? “Ed Coffin’s sports call in hotline.” Where Gordo has all these off the wall, often racist sports opinions?
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
You're thinking Ed Carter.
Ed Coffin is a real dude who used to populate LSB but also monitors NMLR.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
oh...
well Ed Carter is genius. Loved fake Nolan Ryan the other day.
FNR: “Did ya’ll know that Yu Darvish is 50% Iranian and 50% Japanese?”
Musers: “Yes”
FNR: “That’s still 100% enemy.”
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2012 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
This same subthread has happened like three times today...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
(365) (2)...
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Yes.
When I wrote last night that I was wrong that the problem was not just Hodson and Foster and wufdog, I didn’t mean to exonerate them.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
I thought you only did this
in case people might be led astray by convincingly misleading arguments?
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
We all have our hobbies.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
(BRING UP MICHAEL YOUNG'S UPROARIOUS PLAYOFF STATS!)
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
11 for 28 after Game 3 of the ALCS, goet.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
Everybody sucked in Game 1 but
Naps led the way in Game 2 of the ALDS…of course, Face had a huge single to key the rally and then Koji brought in his gas cans.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
The Yankees treated him like Bonds in the 2010 playoffs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
What can I say... Beltre makes me swoon.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Don't act like you don't dabble with chasing the dragon.
LSB’s new tagline should be: “Your online opium den.”
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'm gonna grab some red wine...make this happen.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
You're saying you never interact with him?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Today.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I have never said Michael Young wasn't great in 2011.
On the road he did quite well except for a horrendous June with a sub .500 OPS. It happens.
He also had a subpar road OPS of .700ish in September when facing the same pitching that Beltre did.
What I’d like you to understand is that I think Michael Young is a good hitter. I think he benefits from RBiA… all of the Rangers hitters do.
The point is that I can apply your ridiculous small sample arguments about Beltre to Young and it paints Young in a poor light. But you ignore it for Young. You shrug it off as not being an issue… but with Beltre it’s a big deal.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Was Michael Young a great hitter (your definition) in 2011?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
Absolutely.
Beltre was as well. More power based than OBP… but still quite valuable.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
One of the very best players in the AL when playing at home.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Yes... that is an apt description of Michael Young's career.
Welld one.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Which is why people shouldn't have vitriol for him because of his playoffs.
Koji was fantastic in the regular season too. He had one bad month, August. His September was lights out.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Koji was fantastic in the regular season as an Oriole.
He sucked balls in Texas.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
How did he do in September for us?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
4.00 ERA in Texas
113 ERA+.
I wouldn’t call that sucking balls.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
You're like the JD of posting.
All is quiet and then bam, lawyered.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
It doesn't take a law degree to use Baseball Reference.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Yes, but he is a lawyer.
And it’s a How I Met Your Mother reference.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
Tack on the post-season...what is that ...13 earned runs in 19 IPs and what
if Josh doesn’t save his ass with that catch in Oakland?
He was freaking terrible, Adam. That’s why his ass was inactive in the World Series.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
I think we're gonna keep him now...Big Bob Simpson wants him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
I'm thinking some in the FO winced.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't he say, and I'm paraphrasing, that owners shouldn't make those decisions?
So isn’t it possible that his feelings on Josh mean squat?
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
He specifically said he doesn't get involved in those decisions.
And chided owners that do.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
But he showed his cards...and he loves him some Josh.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Hard not to.
He’s a nice guy.
But this is business.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
And has nothing to do with his hair color, eye color or skin color
and everything to do with his ability.
He’s one of the most physically talented players to hit The Show in the last 40 years.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
Griffey > Straw
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
For the specific application of baseball.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Bo Mother Fucking Jackson
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2012 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
Loved him but as Gretzky said
in the commercial “No.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
Go look again at Bo Jackson, particularly plate discipline.
This is about baseball talent, not athletic prowess.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
And where is Pujols in all this?
Can’t run or play the OF but solid to very good defender.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
Griffey Jr, Bonds, Straw, ARod
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
Lots of people do.
That doesn’t mean we will keep him.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
I think he implied everyone would 'talk' about it w/ regards to Josh.
i.e. ‘If you guys think he’ll perform, I’m willing to go that extra mile financially.’
Que sera, sera.
x
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
So you're in agreement that this thread needs Josey to come in and say something about C.J.'s conditioning
So that it may be complete?
OHgodno.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Who here wants Koji to be traded?
Anyone?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
In all seriousness I don't know
I just don’t think he’s going to be an above average major leaguer for many more years.
I don't think we've seen him at full production yet
If you look at his streaks it goes injury—-swing and miss for a month or so -- to absolutely crushing the ball. If he stays healthy or figures out how to get his timing back quicker this year, I’m thinking a Naps-like season with more homers.
by corbsclinton on Jan 25, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
I want him to stay as well
I want Lowe to go to RR and figure it out.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
:(
I’m sort of driving his bandwagon this year. But I was driving Omar Beltre’s bandwagon around this time last year, so…
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Nope....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
You can never have enough high-ceiling RP's is the way I look at it.
Granted, Koji is a bit expensive, but it’s not like he’s getting closer money or should be keeping us from doing what we want to with the roster.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
I can agree with this.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
OT: reading bless you boys...
i know they are on cloud 9 right now… but some of the comps and predictions are down right foolish…… i think they are the 4 or 5th best team in the AL…. and that lineup even with miggy an prince isnt all that scary.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2012 10:22 PM CST reply actions
+ the defense is fucking terrible
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
yes....
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
Why?
This is apparently a dumb question but with VMart out doesn’t Miggy just slot into DH for a year?
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2012 10:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
While Leyland blows smoke into his face.
Miggy at 3rd is just speculation now. When it happens I’ll believe it. And then tune in. A lot.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2012 10:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
well, they're pretty much guaranteed their division this year
which is more than you can say for any other team in the AL.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
yeah..
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think there is any such thing as pretty much guaranteed your division.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
The 2011 SF Giants sigh and nod.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
The year the Tigers got Cabrera they were supposed to be guaranteed to win the Central.
Started off awful and never recovered.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
well, you can be "pretty much" anything
clearly there is no such thing as guaranteed.
I’d say the Tigers have the highest divisional win probability of any team in the AL. Probably not highest playoff probability. But that division is awfully awful…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I hope the Royals win it...
Just for the laughs.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
I do too
but really just because I have an internet bet with matchst1ck that the Royals will make the playoffs several times over the next half decade or so. Not one of my better bets… though that division is awful
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
It just hit me that playoff probabilities are altered now.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
hehe...
yes, yes they are.
But you really don’t want to be a wild card now either.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
God no.
Fortunately, the Rangers are a 103+ win team, so we’re safe.
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They're replacing V-Mart with Fielder, and potentially putting Cabrera at third.
I mean, there’s a lot more that goes in to a team’s growth and decline from year to year, but geez.
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this strikes zero fear in me
1. Ajax
2. Boesch
3. Cabrera
4. Fielder
5. Peralta
6. Avila
7. DY
8. Santiago/Raburn
9. Inge/Kelly
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
well, Cabrera and Fielder strike a good deal of fear in me
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
They'll give the runs back.
Seriously, though. When I wrote the ALCS preview, I harped a bunch on how the biggest difference between the two teams was fielding. And that actually even manifested itself on the field in the series in ways that people could actually see.
So their response is Prince Fielder and putting Miguel Cabrera at third.
?
????
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Do you think Cabrera will really play 3rd though?
I seriously doubt he plays 3rd more than 30 games next year
The fact that it's a consideration should cost them 30 runs before the season even starts.
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by philkid3 on Jan 24, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
What do they do with him if he's not at third?
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if he will be happy about that move?
It’s not like they’re dealing with the bastion of stability in Cabrera……
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
Well, the lineup can still strike fear in you
even if the defense is laughable.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I just get less scared when I think about what happens on the other end of the inning.
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how many wins would you think Cabrera costs them at 3b?
2? 3?
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Against an average 3B?
I’d guess 2-3. Any worse and I think they’d do something drastic and not have him there. The Tigers really don’t seem to care enough about fielding, but I can’t imagine a butcher on that level would just go ignored.
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and how many wins at the plate is he worth over someone like Inge?
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Over Inge?
I’d say probably four on the conservative end, and seven or eight not being exactly shocking.
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If you're trying to get at "do you think Fielder improves them even if Cabrera moves to third. . ."
Yes, I do. I just don’t think it improves them as much as someone would think simply looking at “now Prince Fielder plays for their team.” And certainly not enough to make that contract look particularly good for them. I don’t think it’s a great improvement in the short term, and I think it’s a probable nightmare in the long term.
Before even getting in to my belief that Fielder is overrated (I wanted him, but not because I think he’s anything better than borderline elite), and not going to age well.
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We talked about this in other threads...
LH HR Park Factor for Miller’s Park: 118
LH HR Park Factor for Comerica: 88
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
And Fielder is more HR dependent for value than the typical player, why?
As far as % of his value derived from long balls?
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It makes sense to me.
The reason there are parks that are neutral despite suppressing homeruns is because the players still just hit doubles instead.
But his home runs are these lofty fly balls. It seems like he’d lose more home runs to outs as opposed to doubles and singles than the average hitter.
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Could be.
I haven’t watched Fielder enough to know that this is true. I don’t see that money “JEs” in his chart to say anything, and I don’t know how he’ll adjust to Comerica. I’d expect some settling in his first year. That said, I also haven’t brushed up on all of the other parks he’ll play in. His HR/FB% is high, for sure, but then so is Pujols’, Votto’s, and Bautista’s, to name a few…
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I just. . . I don't really hate the Tigers, but this deal is hilarious to me.
They just don’t get the maximum Fielder benefit, despite giving him more than the money even max gain Fielder should get.
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Oh, it is a terrible deal
I’m just saying that it makes the already clear favorite for that division better
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I do agree with this.
I even still think they’re World Series contenders. I don’t know where I’d put them in the division.
. . .
Fourth? Sixth?
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I'd say 4th
maybe 3rd.
Texas, NYY, Boston?, Detroit?, Tampa?, LAA
I think Tampa is getting crazy overrated by some…
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Off the top of my head I'd be unsurprised if LAA's passed them.
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LAAA and Texas are in a dogfight...both
teams surrounding 94 wins next year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
I thought that too before the systems came out.
Now I wonder more.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
those last four are all lumped together
very good teams, 3 with big strengths and pretty glaring weaknesses, and 1 more balanced
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
The team that appears to be golden is Detroit...
nobody else in the AL Central has their shit together…maybe Cleveland wins 85 games but that’s it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
JBI...that starting pitching.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
Agree re: Tampa
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Don't you think one of Cabrera / Prince DH's a ton next year?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
I'd think, but people keep saying third.
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keithlaw keithlaw
You’re not wrong. You’re insane. “@SuperkayDK: @keithlaw does jurickson profar for Bj Upton make sense for both clubs or am I wrong?”
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
superkayDK you dumbass
BJ upton only has 1 year left
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe the Rangers could make him an offer to stay....
Nah…he’d probably reject the offer and screw the team over….
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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
so if AJM posted this afternoon "Prince to TX for 9 years 215 no options"
This place would be in meltdown mode pissed the F off right?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2012 10:25 PM CST reply actions
Yes.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Well......most of us.................................................
/not saying who but definitely not me
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
Oh goodness. I can't even imagine.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
There would be people saying how happy they were for 2012, 2013, 2014 ...
But then a whole bunch of people saying “HOLY SHIT, THAT’S TOO MUCH.”
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
detroit fans are praising this as the best thing of all time and World Series dominance
for years to come… they are the 5th or maybe even 6th best team in the AL with Fielder!
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
Are you sure?
Because the folks at HH don’t seem to have that opinion re: Pujols. And it is kind of the same situation.
we're a lot smarter than HH folks
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I would have been much angrier at the FO if
they had signed Pujols to that contract. Heck….I would have been upset at them if they had signed Pujols to the Fielder contract….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
but to really highlight the difference
if you’re the Angels, you’re only hope for winning anything in the next half decade is to go all in on a player like Pujols and hope that he doesn’t age. That wasn’t a terrible deal for them. It was incredibly risky, and I am kind of happy they took that risk, but not doing anything was probably a worse move for that club.
For Texas, the team is established as one of, if not the, best teams in the AL. It didn’t need Fielder to maintain that status. They lost one key player – Wilson – and they replaced him with Darvish. That’s a foolish risk for a team in the drivers seat to take.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Pujols was absolutely necessary for them to improve a stagnant offense.
Fielder was a luxury for us.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Maybe for this year.
I’m not sure that is true for 2013 and beyond.
And my point was meant to mean years 5-10 of the deal, not the now.
Years 5-10 of both deals are likely to be quite bad.
Especially if Pujols is older than people think he is. Right now he’s still a transcendent player, but he may not be 3 years from now, much less 8.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I agree. Completely.
It just seems that Angels fans don’t care about that issue and aren’t talking about it.
And I think we would be if the Rangers signed that deal with Texas.
again...
it all has to do with where you are. If you’re the Angels, your choices are “don’t compete now and maybe compete in 5 years” or “compete now and a little less likely to compete in 5 years”. Seems pretty easy to me.
Still, the Angels have to hoep for the Rangers to suffer some setback. But if they do, they positioned themselves to be ready to take advantage. At a long term risk, of course. But kudos to them for at least trying (unlike Billy Beane or Jack Z).
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I wouldn't feel very good about it.
Despite how awesome the Rangers would be. Kinda weird.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
This is where I'm at.
I’d be happy we got Prince. But that contract is just…no.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I would be excited about the lineup but scared senseless about the contract.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
Even I would be damned uncomfortable with that
Not the money so much, but the years…
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
That deal may be the worst deal even discussed for the Rangers
though given the hand-wringing over the Rangers not paying $20 million for Cliff Lee’s social security years, who knows how people would have reacted
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
It's so impossible that it's not even something to worry about.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'm pretty sure my expectations of Koji's performance are the sole reason I don't mind him exercising the no-trade.
I think it interferes with the Rangers plan. I just don’t it hurts the Rangers.
if this is the last time ever we can moneywhip Latin America...
we should just go sign all of them right?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2012 10:30 PM CST reply actions
i want soler
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2012 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
i am not getting this hate
it’s in his contract…he put those teams in there for a reason. i still love koji, if he wants to stay even though his heart’s in baltimore, but puts up 11.5 K/9 and .5 BB/9…i think i’m okay with that.
A Brewers fan friend of mine on Twitter
I think that Aramis/Full time Mat Gamel is an upgrade over Prince/Casey. And If Gamel doesn’t work, we can move Hart in to play 1st.
He crazy, right?
Full-time Mat Gamel is...good?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Rz?
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Scrabble?
I thought he was with the Cards.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yep. He is. Nothing to see here.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Rusty Kuntz?
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2012 10:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Summation of this thread...
Koji is not one of LSB’s favorite players.
While I agree that Koji has the right to exercise his NTC and I’m not mad at him about it, I don’t want to hear a peep of complaining from him this next season. He had his chance to get out of Texas and he chose to stay.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
He might well get another chance.
Too early to say.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Right. I think it's more likely than not that he's dealt at this point.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
On one hand, I'm happy ,because that means we have Koji.
On the other hand, if the FO tried to deal him, I don’t have trouble trusting they were going to improve the franchise by doing so.
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But he might not.
He had to understand that when he used his NTC.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
I might be pissed in that situation.
Because that’s not his job.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Why would that matter to Koji?
For one reason or another he doesn’t want to play in Toronto and exercised his option….I don’t think it has anything to do with the player coming back to TX.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
I doubt that had anything to do with it.
More likely he asked for compensation to waive his NTC… that’s what players typically do… and the Jays or Rangers didn’t want to pay it.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
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"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
if not, come on guys
“I didn’t see it in my best interest at this time, especially with what we were getting in return,” Palmeiro said.
Ooooh. Even deeper than I thought.
Well played.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2012 10:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ahhhh....got it......
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 24, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
I still don't get it.
What’s it in reference to?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Could have had Nolasco
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
Link
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Newberg has debunked it numerous times
by ab03 on Jan 24, 2012 11:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No. But I find other comments remarkable
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2012 10:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree...
I’m mad at Koji now.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
And his facial hair?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
Has Koji never watched The Wire?
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2012 11:06 PM CST reply actions
I made this joke to Snark once.
He thought I was serious and got mad at him.
Apparently Baltimore is a fine place…
TO GET MURDERED!!!!
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I loved their "Little Italy" area...had a good dinner there...it looked exactly like the place
where Michael killed the cop in The Godfather (“Whatever you do, drop the gun. Don’t forget to drop the gun”).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
Perfectly directed ...
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
Grrrrrrr.
I’m just a staunch defender of Charm City, is all.
Plus, I didn’t know you well enough to write you off, then.
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I have never watched the Wire and I need to fix that.
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Better clear a full weekend.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
More than that.
A few weekends.
Or just call in sick. But Robbie hates that.
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Yeah...
you can’t watch it just once.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
We watched the first three seasons in something like two weeks.
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I was probably at about that rate, too...
but then I watched all of season four and five probably in about 30 hours. I just couldn’t stop.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
We took a break, because we hadn't bought them yet.
Season 4 in 72 hours or so.
Season 5 we didn’t enjoy as much, and so it took longer.
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I've never seen it...it's on the list.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 PM CST up reply actions
Anything close for you?
I’m curious as to whether I’m missing something that would be worth buying…
We watched a few episodes of Treme, but found it severely lacking. I suspect Simon just doesn’t have the expertise to do New Orleans justice…
The Sopranos is amazing TV.
I was also a huge Deadwood fan, but it got canned.
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Friday Night Lights!
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Only seen a few episodes.
Tough sell with my viewing companion. Still working on it.
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Everyone says this.
And I can’t get myself to watch it.
Started Downton Abbey last night. Then Goldstein tweeted about starting it and it didn’t feel as special.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I grade FNL on a curve
because of its Network televisionness.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
No, not really
it’s very good, but it’s not on that tier.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
My old man loved Deadwood.
Dialogue didn’t ring true in the half of one episode I saw (small sample alert!)…
Some people say Breaking Bad has topped it...
but those people are not correct. And I like Breaking Bad a lot.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
others say Mad Men has been better. I disagree.
Though I do believe that 5th season of the Wire was less good than the others.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
It was far less good.
Season 4 > Season 1 >> Season 2 > Season 3 >>> Season 5
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Which was 3?
Intro of Marlo?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Hamsterdam...
And I just typed something that was a spoiler and so I deleted it but it is about Stringer Bell.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
I LOVE HAMSTERDAM
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Don't get me wrong, there were *great* episodes that season.
But as a whole…
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Yeah, I agree!
And I also agree wholeheartedly that season four was the best. Season four is pretty much the pinnacle of dramatic filmed entertainment for me.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
that's why I can't love 4 the most
you take kids and give them a fucked up situation and it’s going to be tragic. and that’s compelling but easy.
seasons 1 and 3 had a bunch of adults in really complex situations and you cared about them all. that’s amazing tv
It wasn't heartbreaking because it was tragic.
At least, not for me.
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Oh man...
the Season Four finale montage. THE FINALE MONTAGE!!
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
I still weep for Dukie.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yeah
Michael Lee is Omar, Dukie is Bubs, Namond is Bunny Colvin. Randy gets lost in the system. :(
I wanted Randy to be Carver.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
So he becomes Cheese?
damn
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
which is ironic
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
not after Carver screwed him over
the single Randy appearance in the group home in season five was powerful stuff
Carver did no such thing
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I forgot the details -- I think it was Herc who actually screwed him
but bottom line is that Randy blamed it on Carver.
damn this scene is intense:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrvaRKtfelw
Yeah
if something shitty happens, it’s always Herc’s fault.
He’s the only one who did not what was coming to him.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
The firebombing scene.
Pulled from the headlines, sadly.
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It's made worse
because the one everyone hates was the one that got somewhere.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Yeah...
that never fails to kick my ass.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
That guy being shot in the last episode
really made it for me. Go Slim Charles (no spoilers)
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Oh man...
I hated that dairy product.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
That was for Joe man
I literally cheered
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
This seems right...
A lot of folks don’t like Season 2. (relatively, of course) I really liked season 2.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
I loved Season 2.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I liked Frank Sabodka storyline a lot
I also like Amy Ryan a lot
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Me, too.
It didn’t have as many great stand-alone episodes as Season 3, I think, but overall, it held together as a season better.
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I cannot rank them.
I loved that whole series.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Anyone ever read Free Darko's Wire posts?
I always skimmed over ’em but they might have been worthwhile…
I liked season 3 quite a bit
the Stringer-Avon storyline was one of the best in the show.
I’d go Season 4>Season 3>Season 1>Season 2>>>>>>>>>>>>Season 5
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Yeah, but the season as a whole fluctuated.
And felt more forced.
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I think everyone just hated Ziggy
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I was interested in his death many times.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
for me it went down season over season.
1 being best, 5 a distant 5th. but 1, 2, and 3 are perfection.
I still haven't watched Mad Men or Breaking Bad...
And yeah, 5th Season was lackluster.
Of course, lackluster for the Wire is kinda like a lackluster Pujols season. Still better than almost anyone else…
Breaking Bad is solid, not great but solid...I like Mad Men a notch more.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
I'm having a hard time getting through it. Keeps me up at night.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Sopranos at their peak was the best.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
Ticket's been playing Christopher's stoned philosophical take on life a lot lately.
Giving me the itch to watch again.
Que sera, sera.
Remember when all of them went to Italy and he spent the whole
trip in a heroin den…bought some swag at the Rome airport to show people he’d been there.
Loved when Sinatra Jr was on the show…Paulie called him “The Chair-boy of the Board.”
What was Christopher’s Butter Face GF’s name? What a body!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
Adrienne.
The female don in Italy…Dayum.
Meadow’s boyfriend robbed Frankie Jr.’s poker game. That was it for him
Que sera, sera.
Ah yes...remember when she was playing tennis?
When Big Pussy got killed, the song at the end was Keef singing “Thru and Thru” while Tony smoked a cigar.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
Gotta keep them hamstrings loose.
Chase was great w/ the music. ‘Dirty Work’ playing while Tony fooled the feds tapping his house. Hell, I’d get pumped w/ the opening theme….Here comes 56-58 minutes of greatness.
Que sera, sera.
Okay...scale of 1-10 where do you rate Carmela in 2000?
I give Carmela a 7 (for an early 40’s lady).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
Seeing her on 'Oz' really skews it down for me.
I dunno, 5.5. My fave Tony piece was the great Annabella Sciorra. Gloria was craaaaaazy, though.
Que sera, sera.
She was a good.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
There's an argument to be had, there.
I’ll take “The Wire,” but I’ll admit I’m biased on a number of counts.
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When they focused one season on Johnny Cakes, it was like Fonzie water skiing in his leather jacket.
When Joey Pants was on that season…greatness.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:37 PM CST up reply actions
Can't 'member....I do remember the episode where Joey
Pants killed the stripper and Tony felt bad about it because his daughter was the same age.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
One of my faves was when Christopha avenged his
old man’s death….Johnny Rotten / Public Image Ltd song pulsating in the background….greatness.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
Remember that one...they zeroed in on the hundy
sticking on the fridge? One of my faves…maybe early 3rd season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
The best was Paulie and Chrissy in the woods.
And, Tony and Meadow checking out colleges.
Que sera, sera.
That's the single best episode.
Paulie and Christopha scared shit-less by the Russian and sipping on catsup packages and freezing their balls off…was it called Pine Woods or some such?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
The acting on that thing was superb..
Gandolfini, Paulie, Big Pussy, Edie Falco, Adrianna and Christopha topped off with Tony Pants and Buscemi….fucking awesome.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:08 AM CST up reply actions
Tony and Carmela's fight in his mancave.
Best acting I’ve ever seen on TV. I mean, I could feel my muscles relax when it was over.
Que sera, sera.
Possibly the most powerful scene I've
ever watched on television was the finale to “Six Feet Under.”
Wow.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:35 AM CST up reply actions
That last segment was pretty killer...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 25, 2012 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
I've had loved ones die so it grabbed me by the balls.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
Only seen about a dozen episodes of the Sopranos.
Eight of those in a haze of a marathon about ten years ago…
It didn’t floor me like The Wire did, though. Could be personal preference, I suppose…
The Wire is like an excellent and epic novel in its complexity and depth…
Would you say it captured the Dickensian aspect of the thing?
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Heh.
Is this a reference to something?
I’d imagine The Wire has often been referred to as Dickensian…
Ah, yes. Forgotten that...
I watched The Wire in a flurry back in 2007 and only once… I really need to go back and do it again…
Early Sopranos was written in layers with great music and acting
chops to match…I think seasons 1-4 will do you well.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
Band of Brothers
but it depends on whether you consider series and mini-series separate categories.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
Yep, I do.
And more importantly, I’m not in a place in my attempt to make this a career where that would be a good idea.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
i really want to go back and re-watch it all
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
it's only the greatest show in the history of TV
and i’m not exaggerating and it’s not even that close. perfect.
Give me
Boardwalk Empire
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2012 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
Someone clue me in on the Palmeiro quote
I’m going to assume it was 03 because we had Teixeira in the wings. And if was 03 I was a Sophomore at Tech and Raffy Palmeiro’s issues were at the bottom of my give a shit o’meter.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2012 11:14 PM CST reply actions
Wanna say Raffy said he didn't think the Rangers were getting enough back in a trade (although Nolasco was in the package)
so he enforced his NTC.
The Rangers were 1000 games out of the race and the Cubs were winning the NL Central but Raffy said no.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
Has this been discussed?
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/sp20120125jg.html
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
OH MY GOD, LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT MOUNTAIN.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Nice.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Racist
I’m afraid that the Osaka native is going to find out that the North American media are not going to be as gullible as the majority of their Japanese counterparts.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
Also seriously overestimating the North American media.
They are gullible as fuck.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
ESPECIALLY ours.
I do like the word “coterie,” though.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Gallagher knows the North American media.
This is simply a “look-at-me!” article.
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Depends if Tom Hicks has them in his pocket.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
Hahaha this caption:
“Questions remain: Yu Darvish has all the physical tools necessary to succeed in the major leagues. Maturity and intangibles appear to be another matter”
I REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT I WRITE, YOU GUYS!
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
Gallagher's still writing for the JT, eh?
Welp.
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What's the dirt on him?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
So I know its a ridiculous article that makes no sense, but this in particular had me confused
Nomura, it seemed, was trying to dissuade certain teams from bidding on Darvish by floating a story that he would only play for teams located on the West Coast…
…
…
Why did Darvish want to play for a team on the West Coast?
Maybe he thought the environment there would make adjusting to life in the United States easier. Fair enough.
But the reason is really irrelevant. When you put your name up for an open bid, like the current posting system requires, you take your chances. You don’t try to manipulate matters after the fact.
Based on what he wrote, the logical conclusion is that Darvish’s people told certain teams that they were only interested in going to a West Coast team where they knew there would be little interest. So if he wanted Texas to win, he could help make that happen by scaring some teams away from wasting time with a bid. But instead, that writer ends up saying that he has no idea why Yu’s agent would want this and that clearly Yu is a liar and didn’t want Texas to win the bidding.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Probably
but am I wrong to not see anyway how you get that Yu is a liar based on that?
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
This is when I stopped reading
MLB Network analyst Harold Reynolds said last month
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
But...
If he’s great then how can we crap all over his one quote about not wanting to be here??? Isn’t that what matters?
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
I want him to want to be here
I want him to be great. But if he sucks and bitches and moans I want him gone. Is that to hard for you to understand?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
I understand that you love the Rangers and you want him to do well.
I’m not questioning that you are a fan. At all. What I don’t get is the perception that he he’s a bitcher or moaner based on one instance. Also, my post was written without thinking of you at all so don’t think it was directed solely at you.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously though, there are like 100 posters in this thread.
Why did you think that was directed at you when I didn’t reply to you?
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
He'll if I know.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Damn auto correct. "hell"
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Fair enough.
And I’ve been bitten by the autocorrect many a time. Nice response BTW.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
You know, part of me wants to believe that matchst1ck is a Josey Wales sockpuppet.
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But even more than than that, part of me wants to believe that Josey Wales is AJM's sockpuppet.
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I'd quite the site if that turned out to be true.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
er, quit*
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
See Ed Coffin.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
Would you come to a tailgate this season?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
It's possible.
If I show up will a big white card come out of nowhere and inform me that I’ve been banned?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
Max does carry a white board.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Someone might do that as a joke...
but I imagine Ryin wouldn’t be able to let you out of his bear hug.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 24, 2012 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
That might be awkward given how I'm taller than Jason Terry.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:59 PM CST up reply actions
IF HE IS HE'S OUT OF THE FUCKING PEAR LEAGUE THAT'S FOR GODDAMN SURE
CAN’T BE REPLACING THE SPIRIT OF DIRKATRON WITH THAT VOODOO.
Of course not.
I have one sock puppet named “matchst1ckPuppet” that I made for testing the troll script.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Heh. I'm clearly too young... and people have met me in person.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Nah.
The entire Josey Wales persona could be entirely invented. But it came first, so you would be his sockpuppet, even if your real persona matched up more closely with matchst1ck.
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The thing about Josey
That makes him ‘real’ to me is his intimate knowledge of Tech sports history and things on the campus. You have to have gone there for some time to be able to say some of the stuff he does.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2012 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
I sure as fuck didn't go to Tech.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
That's what a puppet/puppeteer would say.
by AsDevilsRun on Jan 24, 2012 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
You know what?
It’s very tempting just to believe this is true, from here on out.
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I think that would color your interactions from me...
And I’d be disappointed. Since whenever you are in Dallas you are welcome to join me at a game and/or have dinner with me and my wife.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
We'll make that happen.
But, on the Outlaw, here’s the thing: I’ve only really gotten pissed at him once. I called him a “fucking moron.” I remember it clearly, because I remember how stupid I felt as soon as it happened.
Now, the Jew-baiting is and was ugly, and I can’t and won’t forget that. And the ridiculously wrong summary of the BBTiA Young articles was silly, and well worth the dead-horse-beating, in my opinion.
I’m astonished at how wound up he can get a lot of folks on here, but I’m also bored with it. And it’s sad, because there’s more to him than he gives LSB, and than he gave NMLR, and I wish that someday he’d give up the shtick and just post.
But I know it almost certainly won’t happen.
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It is a damn shame that a dude with as much knowledge
as he obviously has either is or pretends to be so myopic and bullheaded.
Oh, I know.
That’s exactly why I stuck up for him at NMLR, back in the day.
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You can't love a sock puppet, scoop.
You just have to let them entertain you when they can, tolerate them when they can’t, ignore them when you’re able, and if all else fails, call them out when they go over-the-top obnoxious.
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Says the sock puppet.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
At this rate, there will end up being only like three guys that make every single post on LSB.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
What if we are all AJM, doing nothing more than talking to himself?
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
End up?
That’s how it is now.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Adam, Brian Thomas, and Josey Wales.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Takes one to know one, right?
Though, truth be told, if posting sold, textually, I’d be Garoon Kweli.
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Garoon is made up dinosaur.
Snark is a luck dragon.
You be the judge.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I can't keep up.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?
Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith
by Darth Snark on Jan 25, 2012 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
That's Jeff Vader, that is.
Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith
by Darth Snark on Jan 25, 2012 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
Sometimes I feel I'm the only sole in the world
that believes in Jackie DeShannon…………
Que sera, sera.
Thank You For Being a Friend?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
Don't underestimate the poster we all think we know as "matchst1ck."
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Wanna talk 70s Dodgers/Rangers? How about Jerry West or what a good ballplayer Gail Goodrich was?
How about what a pile of shit the Texas Tech football program was in the early to mid 80s?
I’ve been to The Bubble. I’ve seen the fountains at Holden Hall and how beautiful the Tech campus is when there’s snow on the ground and the Christmas lights are on.
I’ve had the motherfucking fried cheese at Spankys and drank beer on the porch of Mesquites.
Who else would know that ?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
Also...
I’m going to go out on a limb and assume I know more about relational databases, application development, general programming, general PC knowledge, system architecture and design patterns.
Also possibly more banking knowledge as well as the applicable regulatory and accounting aspects of the banking industry. But I’m really sure on the IT stuff.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yeah, I'll give you that.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2012 11:59 PM CST up reply actions
I had a friend that auditioned for Ed Norton's part.
And that was the movie that put him on the map.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
This guy.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0267054/
He made it fairly far in the process. When he didn’t get the part he ended up not doing anymore acting again.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I really liked his character. It would be a tough job.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Come on, I thought you had it figured there at the end.
The way you trolled me on tthat A.M. thread like that, that was brilliant. The whole “don’t-give-me-that-shit” thing. I knew what you wanted. It was like we were dancing.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Point Proven...
Also I had no idea that Mesquites (Broadway and University) was originally called Mesquites…
It was Flatlander’s when I was there and changed (evidentally back) to Mesquites around 06. It wasn’t until 09 or 10 someone informed me that Flatlanders was the interloping name.
Best fucking Pecan Pie and Vanilla Bean Ice Cream I’ve ever had.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 25, 2012 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
They don't sell the big-ass onion rings at Mesquite's any more ...WTF?!?!?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
No idea
I go there to drink now when I go. I hadn’t eaten there since I was a student.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 25, 2012 12:06 AM CST up reply actions
The ...BM Pub or whatever...right across the alley from Mesquite's
used to be called J.Patrick O’Malley’s and it was greatness…not bad these days but it was spectacular in the 80s.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
I think its Bar PM
And you can’t smoke there. Fucking hipsters.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 25, 2012 12:12 AM CST up reply actions
I rotate between 3-4 places
If the game is early enough I like to go to Chimy’s for 3-4 margaritas, Crickets for some shots and a whiskey/coke or 2. Then across the alley to Bash’s and finish the night with pitchers of Coors Light.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 25, 2012 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
Line's get too long anywhere
abort the plan and go to the roof at Mesquite’s.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 25, 2012 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
Best fucking bar I ever went to in Lubbock was called Fat Dawgs.
Saw Stevie Ray there in …maybe January / February ’82…believe the legend, he was that good.
Fat Dawgs was right there at 4th and University across from the Rodeway Inn.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
What's your opinion on Top 10 pick Ryan Tannehill 86'ing Tech (His dad's and mom's alma mater) for A&M?
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 25, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
There is no way he should be a Top 10 pick.
That’s one thing.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
As impossible as it seems..
Gil Brandt says it’s probably going to happen. My guess is Washington.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 25, 2012 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
GLWT Washington.
Dumbasses.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Leach didn't want him as a QB.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 25, 2012 12:05 AM CST up reply actions
x
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
by philkid3 on Jan 25, 2012 12:32 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Seattle...300 days a year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:33 AM CST up reply actions
PhilKid needs a weather report.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Close enough, but irrelevant to anything.
Guessing the reference went right over your head?
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
Got me....please come down from Mt. Condescension and let us know what you know.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
Ahhhhhh.
It’s a GIF of someone’s wedding day. Now I get it. ;)
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
by Brad on Jan 25, 2012 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Still waiting to hear the story about this song from Snark's friend...
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Oh.
I’ve never actually heard the theory either.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
If it's an LSB thing... no.
I am aware of the song’s lack of actual irony. Do people believe that was intentional?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
My friend's theory:
Not a thing in that song is ironic. Not a single thing. And yet the song’s title is “Ironic.” And the catch lyric is, “isn’t it ironic?”
Now: imagine a song with that title and catch lyric, in which not a thing is ironic, despite descriptions of lots of things that people would certainly think was ironic if they didn’t actually understand the concept of irony…
Isn’t it “Ironic”?
“Don’t you think?”
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
by Snark on Jan 25, 2012 1:00 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
by Snark on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Poseur. Flanneur.
You! hypocrite lecteur!—mon semblable,—mon frère!
Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith
by Darth Snark on Jan 25, 2012 12:40 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, for crying out loud:
Shut the fuck up, will ya?
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Well, I too have seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion,
and c-beams glittering in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
No, that's me.
Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith
by Darth Snark on Jan 25, 2012 12:43 AM CST up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~
Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith
by Darth Snark on Jan 25, 2012 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
Spanky's is the shit
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
the thing that makes him real
is that it would take a true sociopath to invest the thousands of hours he’s been here to develop a mega-troll persona.
he’s either a real person him or I absolutely would be terrified to meet the person who gets pleasure out of inventing a JW.
Truly a sick fuck.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:06 AM CST up reply actions
You know why you think these things?
Because you’re the kind of guy that uses sock puppets. ;)
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Oh, indeed.
I don’t have the follow-through for the truly good ones, though.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Odd place, teh internet.
Just the other day I was reading about Eugene Miya, a 1990s NASA program that pretended to be a scientist who invented USENET and ran rec.backcountry, an early outdoors oriented forum…
Did Dirkatron ever indicate he had a programming background?
by VM on Jan 25, 2012 1:30 AM CST up reply actions
I don't recall.
I’m just kidding anyway.
Maybe.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Of course...
After I typed that I thought, “He’s probably kidding.”
Someone needs to start a poll on whether people here think Josey is a real guy or a puppet… I think I’d vote real…
by VM on Jan 25, 2012 1:40 AM CST up reply actions
He's so dedicated to his craft I can't imagine him being somebody's bit...
He’s just a very obsessed, very good troll.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Some of his more arcane knowledge makes me believe he's real...
but, frighteningly, I don’t know that he is always trolling. I think he is just that obtuse…
by VM on Jan 25, 2012 1:47 AM CST up reply actions
He never admitted it, but it had to be him
Had Parks written all over it.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Correction:
Never outright admitted it. But he hinted at it.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Pretty easily debunked.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
whats going on?
just finished a gmat practice test that took almost 5 hours
by jonathan rigby on Jan 24, 2012 11:54 PM CST reply actions
Koji makes people angry, Joesy loves CJ and Hamilton, Matchstick fights Josey, AJM makes a brief appearance and nobody really talks about the biggest story (Prince).
by elchicodelgado on Jan 24, 2012 11:58 PM CST up reply actions
FIFY.
Koji makes people angry, Joesy loves CJ and Hamilton, Matchstick fights is Josey, AJM makes a brief appearance and nobody really talks about the biggest story (Prince).
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
What if Josey is AJM's sockpuppet?
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I get asked this at every tailgate haha
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 25, 2012 12:05 AM CST up reply actions
Who is Brian Thomas?
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Confusing.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
It wasn't a fight.
It was “The Shove.”
And I’ll probably write about it this year.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
I brought that up, too.
It wouldn’t surprise me. It really wouldn’t.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Any moderators.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
AJM, goET. matchst1ck, maybe;Ben, maybe.
Nobody who would let the cat out of the bag.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Ryin can see it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I'm not a moderator.
I can only create articles.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I don't know how LSB works behind the scenes.
So I don’t know if you have IP access or not.
I’m pretty sure I still do at BBTiA, because it’s one of the ways I knew beyond a doubt that TexasDawg and his previous persona and Mike Dunlap were all the same person.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
I do not.
My interface looks almost identical yours other than a “Create Story” link and a “Editorial Queue” link.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
You have to have the ability to inspect users, which means you have to be a moderator.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I'm inspecting all you folks right now...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 25, 2012 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
Hell...
this thing has Google search terms!
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 25, 2012 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
(Not really)
(But you probably shouldn’t search that with safe search off)
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 25, 2012 12:22 AM CST up reply actions
So can you see what's in my other windows?
I mean, can you believe the cans on this chick?
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Look lower, dude looks like a lady.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
You can definitely see some interesting things.
Every rec given/received, every flag and the posts associated, every moderator action, etc. etc.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
And IP addresses, obviously.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
So they can see how many recs I've recieved? Or just the ones I've given?
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Do you have another account you use for this?
Because you have almost no activity on any other site but Bloody Elbow.
And not much there.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
No.
I’m an author/moderator at MinerRush.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 25, 2012 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
Oh there it is.
Didn’t notice it the first time.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Just curious where you were a mod/contributor
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I am. I love a green message with "by AceJC" on it.
I’m not one to do the search function for my name, though, to see if anyone’s talking about me. I think Micah introduced that to me and I can’t really do it since “Ace” is used in many other talking points.
I’m not sure if I want to know, either. Heh
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
by AceJC on Jan 25, 2012 12:34 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But I do it as "Brian Thomas."
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Scoop16 is also a sockpuppet of mine.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Just Scoop, BT, and KSB.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
(I really wish I knew more about this BT guy.)
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I live Brian.
He had my back.
Well, really, my front. And he was sort of slow. But, you know — cool wife.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
He meant "like."
Take my word for it.
Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith
by Darth Snark on Jan 25, 2012 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
I'd want to have a couples date with you and the missus
BT and his, and Ryin and his. I suppose goET and scoop could couple up and that would make it the end all be all.
Wait, Robbie and his lady can come with as well.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
You're a taker, Ace...
not a giver.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 25, 2012 12:35 AM CST up reply actions
Hahahaha. This is true.
It takes a pretty good post for me to give out my rec.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
If I remember right, it's both.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Definitely both.
And the posts.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Imagine if SB Nation had a private message system...
that mods could see.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 25, 2012 12:28 AM CST up reply actions
You could do it through warns.
Warn someone then take it off immediately after posting it. The message about a user would remain.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I didn't think SBN let the tools be parced out like that.
I think if you clicked on one of our profiles, you could ban us if you want.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Nope. I've checked. I've explored.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Hmm...
that’s interesting, then. I worked for over a year as a contributor at an SBN blog, and was able to drop the banhammer a couple of times when necessary, even though I was mainly a writer. AJM must have figured out a way to create higher-level accounts without that capability.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
He upgraded his account to 'author'..
but didn’t include being a moderator.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 25, 2012 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
That's what I find odd, though.
I was classified as an “author” on that blog,
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I really don't get this bit at all.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I don't think Match has the link for 'Inspect Member' in the top right of a profile.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 25, 2012 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
Actually... I just checked and I do.
But only for people with ODB accounts. Aqua gave me some permissions to look at something… maybe I can ban people there.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Thanks for reminding me to change that back.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
DAMMIT
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
And now it's gone.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
That's what I find strange about it.
I was classified as an “author” as well, but I had the “inspect member” link. Oh well—the mysteries of LSB!
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
It does.
You can be an author, editor, moderator, or the manager itself.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Ben definitely can.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Wouldn't surprised me if Josey was a Ben sockpuppet, either.
Which would make the short film even more brilliant.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
That actually makes the most sense.
Except for the Texas Tech stuff.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
This is the sort of shit that makes people paranoid, right?
I mean, do you think FuturePants walks around wondering if LSB is just a surface manifestation of The Matrix?
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
You should listen to Buddy Holly...True Love Ways is a great song.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:39 AM CST up reply actions
Talked to a friend who really knows his music and we agreed
that if Buddy lived, he probably would have been an Everly Brother type (no shame there)…but damn, he was so fucking talented.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:45 AM CST up reply actions
The straight wrist chicken scratch play makes him a legend.
I think he was more poetic than Phil and Don. I’m not sure how many lyrics they wrote.
Que sera, sera.
Oh and the feta cheese in Fuzzys tacos is awesome.
Nobody talked about that but I feel that way so yeah.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 25, 2012 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
only on dollar taco day
then it is magical
by jonathan rigby on Jan 25, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
Funny re: Prince
not really much to get worked up about. Not a soul here wanted him for nine years and $215m…
yea that is pretty crazy
that team is going to age very poorly…..to say the least
by jonathan rigby on Jan 25, 2012 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
I haven't gotten through all of the threads
but I think I’ve read enought to realize there is some serious Koji hate brewing here.
Seriously though, why hate the guy for excersizing his contractual rights? Because it was once reported by this one source that he had a hard time adjusting here away from his family and complained about hot weather? And that’s enough proof to say he wants out of Texas?
This may be just me, but when I saw Koji playing for us last season, I thought he was a very enthusiastic player who gives his all when his playing. As much as his late season blunders made me pull out my hair, never did I sense that he wasn’t giving his best out there or hating playing for us. I still remember him all pumped up after mowing down some of the first batters he faced as a Ranger, coming back to the dugout and giving his teammates high fives. In no way did he seem to me that he resented playing here.
So if I had to choose which to believe, a one-time report from this one particular source or his attitude on the field that I saw with my own eyes, I’ll choose the latter.
Just my two cents.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 PM CST reply actions
Why is anyone upset about this
WOULD YOU GO TO CANADIA? If the job you had was the only job you could have. If your work had exclusive rights to your services. If they didn’t give you a raise or any other incentive to go but you had the right to just say “NO” and go on your merry way.
WOULD YOU GO TO CANADIA?
Jesus Christ this thread is full of stupid.
@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.
Toronto is an awesome city.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
The description I've heard is "clean."
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
That is actually the exact opposite I've heard
at least in regards to the night life…
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Porn Capital of North America
Or maybe that’s Montreal….
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 25, 2012 12:07 AM CST up reply actions
I had a great time in Dubai too
But all things being equal if it was on my “6 places I can veto” list then I sure as fuck would.
@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.
by TargetField on Jan 25, 2012 12:06 AM CST up reply actions
People are mad because:
Koji underperformed last year in Texas.
Koji said he didn’t want to be here.
The Rangers gave him an opportunity to not be here.
He rejected it.
That said, I’m a little surprised at some of the outrage…
Koji never said he didn't want to be here.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 25, 2012 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
He was never publicly quoted about it
but the Orioles’ beat writer said that he was talking to people in Baltimore about wanting to return. It’s hard to fault the guy because he never said it himself, but it’s also tough to keep it from affecting your opinion of him as a Rangers fan.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
Especially since the Prince thread only had 973
by elchicodelgado on Jan 25, 2012 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
There were two Prince threads.
One had 900+, one had 1300+
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
You and your "facts"
I stand corrected (easily and accurately corrected). My recap was… More ironic?
by elchicodelgado on Jan 25, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
Seriously
Looking at the number of comments, I almost thought maybe we were to trade for Brett Lowrie or Jose Bautista for Koji but the deal fell through because Koji vetoed the trade.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 25, 2012 12:13 AM CST up reply actions
Yes Darvish.
faridyu ダルビッシュ有(Yu Darvish)
今日は4日ぶりに動いた。 あまりに時間なく移動だらけで身体重かったです。なので軽めで引き上げ交代浴なう。ケアもしっかりやって体調整えます！
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
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Moved in four days today. Heavy body is riddled with too much time without moving. Contrast bath with a light so I pulled up. Physical condition to do well also arranges care!
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Translation:
The Rangers are awesome. I can’t wait until Spring Training. I will dominate MLB. Fuck all my haters!
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
Cespedes
If Cespedes wants 5-7m per year for 4-6 years, what is the minimum production that you want from him in, say, one of the corners (rather than CF)?
I don't know much about him at all
other than what has been written in the last month. some teams think he can stick in CF for now (moving to a corner in a couple years) while others like him in a corner right away. Just don’t have a feel for him.
Ok. That would make a difference.
I mean, a 125 wRC+ with plus defense makes him a 4-WAR per season sort of guy. I don’t know if he can do that, but that’d be pretty amazing.
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Yeah
that is a lot to ask. I’m thinking I would only be willing to do an incentive-laden deal especially if you think he might have to start the year in AAA.
Yeah, it's tough to take any kind of stance, because who knows
I could easily see him being way over-hyped because of that goofy video and the fact that he’s ridiculously jacked
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• "He’s a five-tool, high-ceiling guy with some concerns about his swing and miss,‘’ the executive said. "He’s more likely to hit 30 homers than hit .300 and probably compares best to somebody like Cameron Maybin, but with more power if less range and speed. He’s stronger and more stocky and may end up on an outfield corner in a few years, but for now he can play center field … For a club like the Yankees or Boston who can afford those investments [and are both predominately left-handed], he makes some sense.’’
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
so he's really not much like Cameron Maybin
he’s more of a power hitter, and doesn’t have the range and speed of Maybin which is Maybin’s biggest asset.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Nice find, this says it was posted today (yesterday).
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
....
I can also assure you that the savvier teams have access to far more robust video libraries of Cuban baseball in their possession.
Hopefully the Soler and Cespedes tapes are right next to the Martin tapes on Preller’s shelf
I think he's
in the 6ft /215-220 area code
That's what I've seen listed.
but doesn’t he look enormous relative to the other guys on the field?
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MLB.com has him listed at 5'10" 200 lbs.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Looks like a RB
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My Internet was broken for a while and I didn't notice.
I just fixed it, and now this thread is exploding in surges.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
Well you're in for a treat.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I hate that.
And if you refresh the page, you have no clue which comments are unread.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
Why the fuck am I up this late?
Fucking internet.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
It's heroin without the bad shit.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
There's plenty of bad shit in this thread.
by kchorton on Jan 25, 2012 9:22 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
My sentiments exactly.
I should be working.
Correction: should be done working and in bed by now. Instead, another hour+ if I quit f&*#ing around.
So it's dawned on me lately that I've taken the Hall of Presidents' technology for granted.
Or the intelligence of people. Or both.
Today was about the third or fourth guest since I’ve gone there to argue with me — actually argue and yell — that I was lying to him, that they aren’t animatronic, they’re real people.
Several people a day ask if the presidents are real after watching the show. Every day. Multiple people. My wedding officiant thought they were real the first time. My roommate thought they were real the first time.
WTF?
The best part is, most people ask specifically “are they real, or wax?” No other options. Real or wax. Wax figures that. . . move and speak?
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
Well, seven of them are the most advanced animatronic human figures out there.
And the rest are apparently convincing enough that people think they’re real. I mean, they are really well done, but I don’t think there was ever a point in my life when I didn’t realize that crap was robots.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
They've always been robots.
They’ve been parodied on the Simpsons for pete’s sake.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I guess they never saw that episode.
Also, every single time I tell people “no flash photography,” I think of that.
Every time.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
Apparently we got lost in the Uncanny Valley...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 25, 2012 12:43 AM CST up reply actions
I'm actually not thrilled with Robama's face.
Something about it is off to me. It wasn’t sculpted by the guy who did every other President. I think it was his daughter, actually.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
Well...
do they ask if Country Bear Jamboree is real?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 25, 2012 12:46 AM CST up reply actions
I like the bear blowing on the jug that has XXX written on it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:47 AM CST up reply actions
Brother Ted is on the corn jug.
Now, I mean that bear can blow.
He also plays the washboard
With a handle of a hoe.
(And I haven’t even watched it in years.)
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
(This was not from memory, at least not without being jogged.)
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
God I hope so.
Man, you can even hear the machinery inside of them.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
"Why do you think it's okay to capture bears and make them sing?"
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 25, 2012 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not entirely sure either.
Memorex were cassette tapes back in the day. Maybe they had a commercial I’m not remembering.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
That's as far as my knowledge went.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
Is it live, or is it Memorex?
Ella Fitz would shatter a glass with her voice.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2012 12:46 AM CST up reply actions
One! Two!
You get higher highs! And even lower lows!
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Right?
I even remember the first time I heard “Baby, It’s Cold Outside” and thinking, “I wonder if that was controversial when it first came out”
Because you knew Louis Jordan was black?
Also, you know that’s not the first recording of that song, right?
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Yes and yes
But it was still in the 40’s/50’s, right? I’m not an expert on the time period, but I picture it being pretty racist.
Yeah.
But I don’t think Dinah Shore and Buddy Clark were embroiled in controversy.
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Although Buddy Clark was Jewish, so who knows?
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Really?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Ella Fitzgerald.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
LSB got Koji beef
"You want to give me poo poo?" - Josh Lewin 7/1/2009
by TXRangersFan on Jan 25, 2012 1:10 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe within the next few days?
All my uni biz starts on the 7th, where I move back to Canberra, so I’d like things to be close to done by then.
But maybe it’s best to hold up until March, even.
i tell the truth; i lie a lot
Andrew McCutchen anyone?
“Never say never,” said Pirates GM Neal Huntington to Jeff Nelson and Jim Memolo of MLB Network Radio when asked about a potential Andrew McCutchen trade. “If someone wants to back up the truck and give us one of those organization-altering deals, it’s something that we’d have to listen to…It would have to be a dramatic overpay on the part of the other club.”
How dramatic must that overpay be I wonder.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 25, 2012 1:11 AM CST reply actions
Hello, Pittsburgh?
We’ll give you the tea. That’s right, ALL of it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
McCutch
4 years of arb left…. looks to be a 4-6 WAR player, although I’d like to see what a scout thinks about his defense in CF, to see what you should expect going forward (numbers are -14 runs in ’10 and +3.5 runs in ’11)
If you call his arb salaries $24M
That’d be ~ $90M of value and $66M of surplus value.
Profar, Perez, NeRa, Ross should come pretty close to $66M in value.
So to overpay, you can add to that. Hurts too much to be worth it, if they are thinking along those lines.
If the Rangers made that type of deal
I’d imagine it’d be during the regular season once they know for sure on Hamilton, see how his health has been for half the season, how the offense stacks up, who else becomes available…. not a big enough need to break the farm system for him right now.
Can't one of our fine local reporters do some leg work and find out what the trade was?
I just want to know what JD valued Koji at… perhaps a high upside long term prospect and a bench player for this year? Encarnacion to platoon some with Morelad or DH vs lefties when Face plays 1b?
Based on the stuff that the link points to, Uehara nixed the trade before it got very far.
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But seriously I would like to know what Koji's worth at this point as well
His value isn’t exactly high at the moment and late January isn’t your best timing to be selling relievers. Wonder what JD was expecting to get in return.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 25, 2012 1:31 AM CST up reply actions
Cool, he'll likely be awesome this year.
Doubt he would’ve brought back what he’ll actually be worth this season.
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