Some afternoon linkaliciousness
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 25, 2012 4:11 PM CST
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Some stuff to check out as the afternoon is turning into evening...
Sam Miller has an interesting story on the Angels' recruitment and negotiations with C.J. Wilson and Albert Pujols. The Rangers appear to have been a non-factor with Wilson, with Anaheim and Florida showing the most interest, and Florida offering 6 years, $100 million.
Kevin Goldstein has a piece on prospects whose stock rose in winter ball, and both Mike Olt and Tanner Scheppers are among those discussed.
At SI, Albert Chen has a story on the Rangers' tricky situation as it relates to Josh Hamilton and a potential contract extension.
Jon Heyman says that the Rangers and Oswalt "really like each other," but Oswalt would have to agree to "their price," because he's not exactly a fit for Texas.
And Yoenis Cespedes is officially a free agent, which means that teams can begin bidding on him. And if the Rangers think that they are unlikely to keep Josh Hamilton around long-term, they could end up going after Cespedes aggressively as a potential middle-of-the-order bat.
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Or you could sign Cespedes anyways
to play when Cruz is hurt.
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 25, 2012 4:17 PM CST reply actions
I want both.
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 25, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
SOLER!
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
AWESOME
I hope he comes here and this becomes his HR call
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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
And when Yu hits 100 on the radar gun
His hair will turn gold and stand on end
by dolphinpuncher on Jan 25, 2012 5:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
According to pictures
his hair already turned gold.
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I can just imagine
CJ jumping around like a douche in DiPoto’s office imitating Pujols.
by Aircooled on Jan 25, 2012 4:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
There are at least four teams that are “in” on Yoenis Cespedes in this order: 1. Cubs 2. Marlins 3. Orioles 4. White Sox
Rangers get to be the Mystery team.
Jokes on you Cubs/Marlins/Orioles/White Sox
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 25, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
DAMN IT, BOWDEN.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
He also had the Nationals as the heavy favorites for Fielder...
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I think everyone except Goldstein that offered an opinion in the interim time period said Blue Jays.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Goldstein went back and forth.
Between the Rangers and Jays.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I want Cespedes to suck up all the oxygen
so the Rangers get Soler
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I wish they were FA at the same time.
Could be a while for Soler.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
THe Rangers
are nothing if not patient
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
The moneypenis.
It waits.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
So do you think
he’ll sign around the time that Leonys signed?
By the way, the Leonys Martin signing was pretty ninja as well. No one heard about him until the moment the signing was near completion.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
No one heard about our involvement with him, you're right.
I remember following that one pretty closely after news about him started to come out. One day it was just BAM, he signed with the Rangers for a fuckton of money.
I don’t want to impute reasonableness onto MLB when they don’t deserve it, but they handled this Cespedes thing relatively quickly all things considered. It took one day after he established residency for MLB to grant him FA. He only defected in July. I’m sure it was because teams pressured MLB to do it quickly so he could be signed, but still.
Soler came along a few weeks after that, I think it was in late August, so if MLB follows the same pattern (and faces the same pressure), I could see something happening along the same timeline.
Something Badler mentioned in his update today struck me and I hope Soler considers it. Apparently the DR team Cespedes played for briefly is owned/controlled/affiliated with several important government officials in the DR. That might have helped him get residency so quickly.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Ohh...Bowden.
I withdraw my =/
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 25, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if the Rangers front office has automatically deemed Cespedes an over-sign, based on the hype and figures that have been thrown out
It seems weird to me that we haven’t been linked. And while the team likes to work in secrecy, I’d expect JD to try woo him somewhat if we were interested.
I doubt the front office simply ignores talent because of rumors and speculation.
I’m sure if they have an interest and think he is worth exploring they’ll talk to his agent.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Ancient lore describes Solomon himself seeking the wisdom of the moneypenis.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
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by Aqua on Jan 25, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Worshippers of the moneypenis look like this
by Jobu. on Jan 25, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I still don't understand what Tim Lincecum was doing at the ballpark that day.
@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.
Just wanted to watch Great Game, Target.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
It's ok,
neither does he.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 25, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
=/
.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 25, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't think cheezy stuff like this worked
“I only spend five minutes talking to or meeting a guy and I know pretty much,” Pujols said after he signed. “God has given me that wisdom. I don’t even know [Moreno], and he called me one of his partners. That means a lot.”
I heard you get more contemplative
as you hit your late 30s and early 40s
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
by FirebatM3 on Jan 25, 2012 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 9 recs
This is some reeeeeeeal dedication
Pujols talked to Moreno again on Wednesday — Moreno left a matinee of the apocalypse film Melancholia to take the call
Right before Dunst got naked, too.
That’s why the Angels are big boys.
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ha
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What about Brian LaHair as a possible 1B trade target?
Cubs 1B that would have to move to LF for R to the Izzo.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
That he is in fact 29?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
It's hard to properly value guys with the AAAA hitter tag
what exactly is he worth?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
That's what I don't know.
But if they deem him expendable, would that interest you? Maybe closer to the deadline if Moreland doesn’t work out?
Sucks that he’s a lefty, but…
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 25, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe
someone like a Miguel de Los Santos or someone like a Mark Lowe. Guys with obvious warts that are somewhere in the low 20s in our prospect list or guys who are just expendable in terms of the major league roster.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Whoa whoa whoa, you keep your mouth shut about MDLS.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
If he were right handed, maybe a Buckel?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 25, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
Probably not
Buckel is a top 15 guy. Maybe if they add someone that can play UIF.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Would you trade Koji for him?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Hrm.
I feel like I’m in a weird middle ground on Koji compared to the two camps LSB has split into. I think his HR/FB will regress, but I’m not at all convinced it will regress to the league mean.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 25, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
I think
at this point, I probably wouldn’t.
I think Koji’s always going to give up some HRs, but his BB and K rates have always been so good that I don’t think it matters as long as it’s not 25%.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Either way
I’m not sure he’s actually available. I’m also leery of Cubs AAAA guys.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
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Me, either.
Just a name.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 25, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
Yea, so LaHair has the ML job
and it’s not like the Cubs has a RF that they can’t kick if both LaHair and Rizzo both hit well.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Really?
There is not any harm in adding depth. If he costs something like Mark Lowe, I’d be interested. But as a AAAA guy, he has more value to the Cubs than to anyone else.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
But we already have short-term depth at the position.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
BRAD HAWPE.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I actually am quite optimistic that he will do exactly what the Rangers want him to do
perhaps even more. He’s quality depth that hopefully will work on getting healthy and use the limited playing time to get better at fielding for Christ’s sake.
He has pop. I want him to find it for us.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
I would love it
if Hawpe puts up a .850 OPS this year. Love it.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Have you seen his OBP? It's pretty good, all the way through his career
It would be fantastic to see him sitting on base when Kinsler comes up to lead off…
The guy can take some walks.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Of course
he’s also been a butcher in the field his whole career.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Yes, yes he has.
That is certainly going to limit the playing time with the Rangers.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Hehe
if Wash has to decide whether to play Hawpe or Young at 1B, will his head explode?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Easily.
I just want to give Hawpe a good chance. That lefty swing sure was pretty in ’07 and ’08 when he was the 4 OF in my fantasy team.
I always rooted for that guy and now I have a very vested interest in him doing well.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Our depth is a guy coming off injury or a guy
who hasn’t been good in 2 years that’s also coming off of an injury.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Young? Napoli?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
In terms of a 20 game stretch? Sure
But are we really relying on MY or Naps to play 1B on anything more than a once-weekly basis?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I guess I'm thinking in terms of platoon partners rather than straight back-ups who would feplace moreland if he fails.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
We could go get Chris Shelton.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
You're right
there is not enough ugly on the team. Even with Dutch’s new look.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
spriteman
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Dan O’Dowd just told us @mlbnetworkradio that Nolan Arenado has the physical talent to succeed at the Major League level NOW.maturity only
You know, I regretted not taking Arenado momentarily after taking Bundy
But with the way the ML portion is shaping up, I’ll have 3B filled by pick 5.
Oh. I'm not even counting that league.
Barring a draft day disaster, may as well crown me already and get it over with.
sign Oswalt
You can NEVER have enough pitching!!
Yes you can.
Especially when it costs money and kicks a pitcher that might be even better into the bullpen.
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Cardinals fan
Get out
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 25, 2012 6:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think I'd read that Anaheim's first offer to Wilson was 4 years/$60M, prior to this.
Also this is both mildly interesting and entertaining:
It took six weeks of courtship, a choreographed dinner, daily conversations with Garber, a four-hour November dinner with the agent, another dinner at the winter meetings in December, a reassuring phone call from the team’s captain, pledges to support Wilson’s charity, heavy involvement from the team’s manager — “Get it done, Bob,” Scioscia would say when he saw Garber at the winter meetings — and the right geographic location. Most important, it took Dipoto. “If Jerry wasn’t the GM, there’s no way the deal would have gotten done,” says Garber.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
We do that stuff for the Cliff Lees and Darvishes of the world, CJ.
Not you.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I like that last sentence
“If Jerry didn’t throw a shit ton of money around, there’s no way the deal would have gotten done.”
I would have gone to the NL CJ.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
That's what I found most entertaining.
Garber: “Thank goodness for Jerry DiPoto!”
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Anaheim also promised some really rad stuff for his gameroom at home.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
The Angels and Wilson
It seems like a lot of their motivation on Wilson, other than the fact that he was the best LH’ed starter on the market, was that they’d be taking him away from Texas.
Do you think they thought twice regarding the logic of stealing away a 31-year old player coming off a career-best year from the Rangers?
Heh
CJ and GMJ are not comparable…
Also, if the Rangers weren’t in on CJ, they weren’t signing him away from us, they were signing him away from the Marlins
CJ at least had a couple of good seasons to warrant his deal.
GMJ had a catch.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Hmmm...
2007 – 291/387/538 – over 606 ABs
Brad Hawpe, ladies and gentlemen! We’re on the same page, though. Angels suck.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Just saying ...
That one still has to sting some – instant OPS+ drop of 30 points, followed by a 2nd year drop another 15% and then into a part time $10M/year player
so what was said about Olt and Scheppers?
by RangerMad on Jan 25, 2012 6:09 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Olt: he's good, but it's hard to figure out how he will fit with the Rangers going forward.
Scheppers: Strikeouts good. Walks bad. Starting: no. Relief: maybe, perhaps even in 2012.
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
All things considered, who would you rather have
Cespedes or Solor?
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 25, 2012 6:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Soler*
/iPhones
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 25, 2012 6:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Soler
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
Needs moar Soler Panels in the OF.
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I should rec this
Becuase you’re thinking green.
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 25, 2012 7:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Soler, always Soler.
Cespedes is another Kimbo Slice.
by dolphinpuncher on Jan 25, 2012 7:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Centipede
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Troll fuck
You ask for my help and do do acknowledge…
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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Jan 25, 2012 7:32 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
It took me like 3 weeks to even get to you to begin with..
I haven’t even checked for a reply yet.. obviously I don’t frequent that e-mail or feel it is all that time sensitive.
I thank you for your advice on the matter though. I am very appreciative.
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After reading the ESPN insider article
My hate continues to grow for CJ. Soon I will forget about all the great regular season games, the 2010 postseason. I will see the Angel logo and seethe hatred, remembering the 3 million walks he allowed in the 2011 postseason, his epic douchey-ness, his over cockyness…
Yes I will hate him…and I will enjoy hating him.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 25, 2012 7:54 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
We should have a CJ Wilson roast
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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 25, 2012 8:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wha~?!
Joe Strauss
Hearing that Cards made bid approaching $5M on Oswalt weeks ago but not likely happening. Rangers probably win, at $2-3M more w/perks.
(13 minutes ago)
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Hmm.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
This makes zero sense unless they've got a trade lined up.
Right?
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
Harrison?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
We're not going to pay Oswalt 7-8M to be a long man.
Harry or Holland.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I will rage if we trade Holland for anything less than an absolute stud.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Well the bar for return in trade for Holland has pretty much been set by what the A's got back for Gio
I wouldn’t expect much more than that, if you get that much
Then no.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
BTW, that's dumb.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
You make these straight parallels on contracts, trades, and everything else
It doesn’t work that way every single time.
And if the Rangers were to trade Holland, they wouldn’t do it as part of a rebuild, they’d want ML-ready players now. Probably 1 ML-ready player. That makes a pitcher-for-prospects trade irrelevant.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
if they are signing Oswalt to replace Dutch in the rotation for 2012 they absolutely could be looking for prospects
Especially upper level offensive prospects. Someone who may not be ready for Opening Day but would be ready at some point in 2012 and could possibly step in come 2013.
You are right if they want a ML ready player it wont be the same but just because we are where we are doesn’t mean we wont trade for prospects.
Oakland got back two pitchers who are near ML ready and a catcher who will spend likely all of 2012 in AAA and then be near ready come 2013. So lets not act like what they got back was anywhere near a Tex type package where most of the guys were in A ball or something.
Much more than what Gio fetched?
I don’t think anyone perceives Holland as more valuable than Gio.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 25, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Glad you're here.
WTF is going on with this?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I could see a argument where Hollands lesser cost due to his service time could make him as valuable or slightly more valuable in trade
Gio was a Super 2 whereas Holland isn’t and so in their team control years Gio will cost probably 8-10 mil more than Holland will.
But to my response, Aqua said he wouldn’t trade Holland for anything less than a “absolute stud”. Given what Gio brought back I dont think Holland brings back that. I do think though that if we signed Oswalt we could trade Holland for a package of near ready offensive prospects similar to what Oakland got back for Gio and that wouldn’t be a terrible thing for this organization. Of course all this is theoretical if they signed Oswalt which I hope they dont do.
Where did I say it had to be a 1-for-1 deal for the absolute stud?
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Do you think Harrison could get
Brown from Philly or would it take another piece.
So much this.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Probably not...
I’d be surprised. But it’s not impossible.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Oh, wait! I KNOW! THEY'LL TRADE DARVISH FOR A KING'S RANSOM!
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Though...
If we’re getting Oswalt… maybe we trade Colby?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
He's really inexpensive.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I guess.
But would the return for him be worth less than $4.75M? Because if so, it doesn’t seem to do the Rangers much good to trade him — and if not, why wouldn’t the other team just sign Oswalt themselves?
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See my response to Aqua...
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
If Texas decides that Oswalt>Colby,
and we can trade Colby for something decent, then that wouldn’t be bad at all. No sacrifice of the future, just an Oswalt-Colby swap.. Hmm…
Postseason grit
There is nooooooo fucking way they trade Colby. My guess is Harrison. His value is at his highest and we could use some OF help. Would could a package Harrison/Gentry or Borbon/Olt/NeRa get?
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 25, 2012 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
What could*
Would could….you silly retard.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 25, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Trade a vet on a 1-year deal because we're getting another vet on a 1-year deal?
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
If you're looking for logic...
You’ll have to explain to me why we’d sign Oswalt in the first place.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
That's what we're trying to figure out.
It has to be Harrison. Has to be. And then we end up with only 1 LHP on our entire pitching staff.
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Kirkman makes this team out of ST.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
OR THAT BAD MOFO ROBBIE ROSS.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Outstanding young outfielder offered for Harrison (or Holland)?
Don’t ask me who that would be, though.
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Given his potential...
Absolutely.
Unless they REALLY don’t like his work ethic… and think his value will get worse.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
That'd be an enormous, enormous disappointment.
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I would certainly be upset.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I'd be shocked.
I think Holland would be more likely to be dealt.
I’d say if anyone is traded… 80% likelihood it’s Harrison.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I think 60%
20% Holland, 15% Colby, 5% Neftali.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Throw in a Koji
(whom the Rangers seem to want to trade) and bring back a good young RF/1B guy with promise. No ideas as to who that would be though.
Frankly, I’d rather keep any of our guys over Oswalt. Even Colby.
I would think Harrison as well
but I would think it would be either for a full time CFer or full time 1B but i really cant think of candidates right now. The Marlins said they are not dealing Morrison right?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 25, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see a deal for a full-time CF out there.
Not with Martin competing for a job out of Spring Training, and Borbon and Gentry available.
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And you know Wash still dreams of his Murphy-Hamilton-Cruz OF.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Agreed
with the money we spent on Leonys, it wouldn’t make much sense to bring in a full time CF to block him.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 25, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
Do you see a CF who would be good enough and is available at this moment?
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 25, 2012 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
Braves don't need starting pitching.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Not for one year...
But Braves have plenty to make it worth it if they wanted him.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'm actually not that worried about CF this year.
I think some combination of those three will be fine.
The Teixeira Five is now the Teixeira Three.
Could it dwindle to Two? Or even One?
In 2015, will there be any left?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.
Hide your kids! Hide your wife!
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Well, look at it this way:
he could hardly show less power than he has the last two seasons.
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See, now you're just asking for it.
Want to guess how many qualified players posted a lower ISO than Andrus in 2010-11?
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4
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Damn.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
There is no Garoon.
There is only Snark.
And Darth Snark.
That you know of, anyhow.
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I do have a sister.
Sister Snark.
But she is not a twin, and she doesn’t post here.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Not going to happen.
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The Jew-baiting
and calling himself an “ugly cunt” would certainly be one way to throw people off the scent, eh?
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That you know of.
You’ve never met Josey in person.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I don't know that I've never met Josey.
It would not surprise me if I have, at this point.
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Well.
More than four if you just look at 2011. There’s that, at least.
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Fourth worst from 2010-2011.
Eighth worst in 2011.
I’m telling you, there’s just not much room for him to do anything but improve.
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Well, they would be selling high on Hairy.
He is in the best mental shape of his life, after having read that one book last year.
Oh shit.
Goldstein has something of a focus on the Rangers, I’d say. But we can’t know if it is about us.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
He knows Josh Boyd
they worked at BA together.
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by Conjunction on Jan 26, 2012 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
Shit please no
Even if we do trade him, this isn’t exactly the best timing.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 25, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly, he hasnt even started ONE game yet...
wrong timing much? Gotta be Harry or Holland sigh most likely the former.
Maybe they're just looking to start Feliz in AAA...
(hopeful?)
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
If it happens -- and that seems like a big if -- it has to be a precursor to a trade.
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AIM HIGH
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Well, yeah.
Harrison’s wasted in the pen and Kirkman’s a much more natural LOOGY.
You think they’re going after an OF or 1B?
1B, I think.
Or maybe someone that can do both and is RH.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
*gasp*
Nick Swisher
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
Ah frig it just got real
I would fucking love to have Nick Swisher here though.
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
Yankees adressed their rotation already though
And actually need another hitter now, not to be trading another.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
I think they're probably still not very confident
in Hughes/Colon/whoever.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
I doubt they care enough about their 5th starter to open a hole in their OF and another in their lineup with nobody left on the market to fill it
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
I have no idea how FO's would gauge Harrison's value, so it's hard for me to figure out who might be in play.
Of course, I’m not even sure that Harrison would be the one to be dealt. This is all very confusing.
I don't know.
If I had to guess, I’d guess outfielder.
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Theoretically they could add a C
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Theoretically they could do just about anything.
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Heh, oh yeah
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by Josh Lile on Jan 25, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it's speculation to call it a "win"
Even if we know for certain we’re signing him.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
"at $2-3M more w/perks" seems more than idle speculation,
but obviously he’s not guaranteeing anything.
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I can't really see them offering much more then the Cardinals.
This seems like a deal the Rangers would only make if it favors them. An incentive based contract. I think Ryan wants Oswalt, Oswalt wants to be a Ranger and the FO is only interested if it in-turn allows them to improve depth elsewhere.
Ryan is sort of part of the front office, no?
And is $2-3M more with perks that much more? Seems as if that’s subjective…
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For me it is.
I think you offering him $5 million like the Cardinals and then maybe make the extra 2-3 million be the perks.
I have to think the Rangers are telling Oswalt's agent
That the offer is dependent on them working a trade out that they have in mind.
Not a baby!
A puppy yes, but save the children
Hrm. That's some complicated feelings, there.
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
Exactly
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Why?
They haven’t let me down with the moves they’ve made the past three years. In JD I trust.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 25, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
No bullshit..
I just spend the past 4 hours in a goddam jail cell.
Fill me in on Oswalt?!?!
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 25, 2012 9:39 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Story first, Oswalt second.
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I'll tell it when I get on my desktop at home.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 25, 2012 9:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Those 4 hour jail stops are a bitch.
Were you at least there for stale pastry breakfast with coffee flavored warm water?
"It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard."
- Nolan Ryan
Ask Pith about getting pissed on.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
*pithed on.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yeah.
Yeah.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Do they?
You’d like to think… but they seem to hate him.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I don't get what their deal is with him.
Put him out there full-time and see how he performs over a full season.
I can't figure out how the Phillies value him...
There was some talk about Laynce freaking Nix being in the OF and Brown playing at AAA. I don’t get it.
Yeah...
I don’t know that they’d go nuts over Harrison, though.
Guess it would depend if they intend to keep Hamels.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Indeed...
One year of Hamels?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Why are the Phillies trading him?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
If they know they can't afford him because of the stupid stupid contracts they give out.
And want to get more than picks for him.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Ok, let's assume this is the case
What do you give up for him?
Can we even afford to think about signing him long-term for what it’s going to take, or are we doing this for one year?
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Ty needs to answer these questions.
It’s his crazy scenario.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I want Soler now.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Parks and his silver tongue.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
When people tell me there are prospects out there that can fit into the top 5 in our system and only cost money
I wants them.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Gallo with 21 in the first half so far...
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
And Thunder with best record in the NBA!
Gallo is no KD.
That would be a shit trade
for 1 year of Hamels?
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 25, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
I think Domonic needs a change of scenery
The Phillies really messed with his development.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 25, 2012 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
Not me, that's for damn sure.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
MLB.com ranks Olt at #43, Perez at #29, and Profar at #7 in there Top 100 prospects
I started watching after they got to #50, so I don’t know if the other guys were ranked in the 50-100 range.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 25, 2012 9:47 PM CST reply actions
Have a great career but hope you never win a WS.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Nah he's an Angel
I hope he sullies their team with an untradeable non-performing contract.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
See, in one of my dream scenarios,
Wilson pitches well throughout the season, the Angels grab the (a?) wildcard slot, and then they get beat in the first round, when Wilson pitches lights out in Game 3, but every other Angels player is absolutely terrible in the series.
And then Wilson calls them all “douches” on Halos Heaven.
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It really is
Now that it’s happened, you realize it makes perfect sense – just like Teixeira as a Yankee.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
It feels like the tail end of a deal_with_it.gif
Smug smile and all.
So what trade needs to happen for you to like an Oswalt signing?
A burden should never be something out of your control.
Roy Oswalt for Billy Butler
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
by LSJ on Jan 25, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't think you have to worry there
Pretty sure the Rangers view him as an integral part of the 2012 rotation. As they should.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Agreed
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Harrison and Holland may only be #2-3 starters with years of cheap team control left!
Hurry up and fucking trade them!
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Maybe they're really not sold on Neftali?
Idk I’m just coming up with reasons why they might be interested in Oswalt in my mind. If they know he’s healthy then I don’t have a problem with the signing, but it does create an odd log-jam.
Well
Now that we’re competing with the amateurs, we just can’t afford to invest that little extra in story, production value, feeling.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
I've thought this for the last several months.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Shit.
karl ravech @karlravechespn
Oswalt will choose between cardinals and rangers
Peter Gammons @pgammo
We shall see, but 2 GMs think Oswalt wants to reuinite w/ Ryan and M. Maddux in Texas, 1 says St. Louis.
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i dont understand aqua
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 25, 2012 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
Aquaman's a hero
He can talk to the fishes.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 25, 2012 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah!
You hear that? This 52 series thing. That’s what I’m talking about.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Probably
I’d assume if they are interested they’ve been interested for a long time (especially since Darvish wasn’t 100%) and JD has been exploring many many avenues.
If the Rangers really did just sign Oswalt and move Harrison to the pen, then yeah I’d jump on the hate bandwagon.
Most people here like Oswalt less than I do in general though… not wanting him now is just a matter of fit, many appear to just not want to touch him in general. With some good reasons(back injuries=bad), I know.
There's no way, right? (re: the bullpen move for Harrison)
If that’s the plan, just acquire Thornton. You pay $2M less, and you won’t guarantee yourself an injured SP at some point next season.
It's time to let Thornton go.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
There comes a time when we all have to realize that we're not getting someone we really want.
Except for me, because I wanted Darvish and WE GOT HIM.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
How much money are they throwing in?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
$37M in guaranteed money to two guys on the wrong side of 36.
For a 26 year old LHP with three years of control left who seems like a good #3 and possibly a #2.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
+ another 4 or 5 in increase from Harry to Oswalt
I would indeed be shocked if the Rangers were willing to do that. Maybe they could get a little money back but not much.
Nolan has wanted Oswalt in a Rangers uniform for a long time
but Harry said awhile back he would be pissed if he had to pitch out of the BP. Perhaps he would go all MY on us and demand a trade
Then Evan Grant will vote him #1 in his Cy Young ballot.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
Can we blame it on Nolan if he fails?
It would provide some entertainment…
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
Heyman bringing the heat
rival execs applaud #prince for going to winner. cant be accused of going only for $ as #tigers r heavy al central favorite
Doesn’t matter if the playoff team also offered the most money…. and the only team people are assuming was close is the Nats, who with Fielder would be considered close to a contender at least…
That's a retarded argument.
He got paid. Period.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
i keep thinking 215 million over 9 years
if invested properly his family wouldnt have to work for generations and still not touch the principal of the 215 million…. crazy.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 25, 2012 11:37 PM CST up reply actions
He just has to keep his ol' man away from it.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 26, 2012 3:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, you can just as easily argue he waited until a team became desperate enough to swoop in and meet his asking price
Which really appears to be exactly what happened.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
He's just like Cliff Lee!
He just wants to win!*
*AND GET PAID.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I keep thinking of names I'd like to get for Harry and teams who would have an interest
And I keep going back to the Cubs. Harry/Murphy/Prospect for Byrd and Marmol?
Someone tell me that’s stupid, please, so I can get it out of my skull.
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
(a) You wouldn't need a prospect added
(b) I’m not sure there’s room for Marmol in the bullpen… but maybe
For what it's worth
I’m already counting Koji as gone.
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
by Keynes on Jan 25, 2012 11:55 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
That is really dumb
Harry himself would be worth more than that,especially considering the contracts coming back.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Hadn't considered contracts.
And, seriously, thank you for helping kill that mindworm.
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
by Keynes on Jan 25, 2012 11:56 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
contracts or not that's insane
"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game
by safeman on Jan 26, 2012 8:41 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
That would be underrating Harrison.
Byrd is 34, and Marmol is good, but not great (at least consistently so). Harrison is a 26 year old that was really good last year- if you trade him (and if they’re signing Oswalt to take his rotation spot, then they probably should), you need to aim a lot higher than Byrd/Marmol.
by Giant Space Ants on Jan 25, 2012 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
plus young starters under control have more value than bullpen arms
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
So basically what we're saying boils down to "This Oswalt crap doesn't make any fucking sense"
I’ll just wait and see how this plays out.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 26, 2012 12:00 AM CST reply actions
I will only be happy if this ends in 6 man rotation
and then it will be so weird that I won’t think about how silly it is.
That would be pretty weird.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
And we once had a ball bounce off of Jose Canseco's dome for a HR
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
by Keynes on Jan 26, 2012 12:23 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
or maybe we'll trade Feldman
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Rangers are bundeling...
packaging Uehera and Feldman $4M to the Cards for Carlos Martinez and Oscar Taveras
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
would lol
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
Keep thinking of Boston
as a destination for Harry.
They’re still hunting for pitching. Lot of injuries last year, and question marks this year.
Go Strangers.
Harry for Crawford
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
YES.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
They were supposedly interested in Oswalt.
Why wouldn’t they just sign him rather than pay us for Harrison?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Maybe Oswalt really just doesn't want to go to Boston?
I mean, the guy got a tractor written in to his contract when he re-upped with Houston. I’m not sure how well he took to the northeast the past year.5.
I could also be talking out of my ass right now. In fact, this is likely the case.
Harrison's better.
Which raises the question, why would the Rangers trade Harrison?
If this is happening, it’s for either Feliz or Ogando. They could conceivably move Feliz back to the bullpen by saying they didn’t foresee Oswalt being available at that rate, and that it was too good an opportunity to pass up.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
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So Feliz and Ogando both go back to the bullpen?
I’m not seeing any way they move Feliz back or trade him.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
No
Feliz goes back if Ogando is traded.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
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Wait, we're trading Ogando now?
I missed that.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Ogando + Harrison
would instantly rebuild your rotation, if you need to.
Pittsburg could use a rotation-rebuilding
Don't.
Don’t go there.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
We're going to trade for Pedro Alvarez?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Maybe he's hinting at trading for McCutchen
would have to add more pieces tho
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 26, 2012 1:57 AM CST up reply actions
I don't want to imagine what it will take to get McCutchen
but if we do get him I’ll probably lament about the loss for about 5 minutes and then spend the rest of the day celebrating.
Plus, dat hair. Do want.
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 26, 2012 2:03 AM CST up reply actions
Don't forget the fatness
Detroit taught us that we can never have enough overweight 1B.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
To be fair, Sandoval is pretty nimble for a guy his size
maybe they should get Ortiz to add to their collection of DHs
by RangersfaninROK on Jan 26, 2012 2:01 AM CST up reply actions
This was my theory
If this is happening, it’s for either Feliz or Ogando
If some team out there sees Ogando as a starter, he could hold a ton of value. Under this theory, they’d keep Harrison and sign Oswalt. Feliz would become the setup man, which he doesn’t care about (no competitive fire! dur! Dur!)
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
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gah reply fail
was meant as a response to Aqua.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
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I'd prefer to trade Ogando as a starter than move him to the bullpen
still doesn’t justify signing Oswalt, though
Presumably that's a Nolan mancrush thing
who knows.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
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JUST. DON'T. SIGN. OSWALT.
Everything is fine with our pitching staff right now.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
He's so Texas, though.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
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I'm not going to stop JD from making a blockbuster trade for a superstar, if that's what's in store
I just don’t want some bullshit Oswalt signing, coupled with Feliz or Harrison back to the bullpen, or trading one of those guys for prospects.
Any result where Oswalt starts for us and Feliz doesn't is going to piss me the hell off.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I'm not at all convinced Feliz will be a good starter
far from it, in fact. But that’d piss me off, too.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
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There's almost no result from Oswalt signing with the Rangers that seems pleasant in terms of what the Rangers would then have to do with someone better/younger/cheaper/controlled for longer...
Oswalt can’t eat THAT big of a steak, can he?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 26, 2012 1:37 AM CST up reply actions
What if he replaces Feldman?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Then he must really, really like Nolan Ryan...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 26, 2012 1:41 AM CST up reply actions
What's the Cards rotation?
Carpenter
Wainwright
Garcia
Lohse?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Oh yeah
that guy’s still alive. Huh.
Shelby Miller sometime this year probably. Maybe Carlos Martinez
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
We scoff at Roy Oswalt and then he wins Game 7 of the 2012 Cardinals/Rangers rematch World Series...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 26, 2012 1:51 AM CST up reply actions
Shut your whore mouth sir
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
You may continue running your whore mouth, sir
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
We'd have to sign him and DFA him in the middle of the season first
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Or his back isn't as healthy as everyone says
maybe it’s our Brandon Webb signing
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Get them folks in Round Rock all excited!
And only for $8 million!
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 26, 2012 1:49 AM CST up reply actions
I'll believe that 8 million
when Joe Strauss stops being a jackass. Which is never. Unless he gets hit by a bus.
So I guess I’ll believe it when Joe Strauss gets hit by a bus.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
He can still be a jackass.
You don’t have to be alive.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Semantics
I was kinda hoping that the bus would be a way of shocking him into normal tude
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Trading Ogando and Olt for Hosmer?
"Shoulda bought a falcon."
by Haeger Champ on Jan 26, 2012 1:43 AM CST up reply actions
I think either is a super pipe dream
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Well he was failtastic
for awhile
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Yeah, I didn't realize it took him 3 entire seasons before he could put it together
They should probably trade him, if they can
Or Butler...
But Hosmer’s sexier in the field and at the plate.
"Shoulda bought a falcon."
by Haeger Champ on Jan 26, 2012 1:46 AM CST up reply actions
The Royals would never do that...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 26, 2012 1:45 AM CST up reply actions
The thought would never enter their mind
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
"You want who?"
—CLICK.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
It'd be like aphasia
they just wouldn’t understand the word Hosmer and trade in the same sentence
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Na...they'll just wait until he's a year away from FA
Then trade him so they don’t have to pay him.
"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game
by safeman on Jan 26, 2012 8:47 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hosmers don't get traded.
For anything.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
The fuck are we doing trying to trade Uehara, then?
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
nothing better to do
"Why do people take such an instant dislike to me?" asked a perplexed [Newt] Gingrich, to whom [Bob] Dole bluntly explained: "Because it saves them time."
With Prince Fielder off the market,
The Rangers have moved on to considering other ventures, like grad school, reforming their old high school band “MoneyPeniϟ” and signing veteran pitcher Roy Oswalt, in a move similar to childhood times where the Rangers would help out the elderly gentleman next door with his daily chores.
by Giant Space Ants on Jan 26, 2012 2:45 AM CST up reply actions
the Rangers
never did like pulling weeds and cleaning out gutters
"Why do people take such an instant dislike to me?" asked a perplexed [Newt] Gingrich, to whom [Bob] Dole bluntly explained: "Because it saves them time."
Oswalt < Broke Dick Dog
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