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2011's LSB Predictions In Review (And OT No. 1 if you like.)

tl;dr: Jonthefon wins. Go Jonthefon!

Okay, I meant to do this a long time ago, but, baseball broke my heart. Also, I thought it would take forever, but it didn't, so, here we go.

Here are the standings from our attempts to predict the upcoming season last spring, in a FanPost found here. Lots of fun discussion in the comments there to bring up.

Everyone who put up predictions was compared to how things actually went, then scored by RMSE. So, the farther away you were on the win totals, the worse you did. Simple! Also listed in parenthesis are teams the predictor was within two games of nailing.

Also on the list are several projections from the Diamond Mind Blowout of Replacement Level Yankees Weblog. Note that these are RLYW using others' player projections to create standings predictions. These are NOT necessarily the standings predictions of PECOTA, Oliver, etc. They were easy to find and put in. If someone would like to link me to other standings projections I can plug them in easily and show you where they'd place.

Notably absent is ZiPS. I couldn't find ZiPS. I sent a message to Dan Szymborski asking where to look, and if I find it, I'll put it in. Also included are every team predicted to go .500 and every team predicted to repeat its 2010 record.

Those who made playoff predictions but not full record predictions are listed after. Everyone should do record predictions this season! Predictions are fun and not to be taken seriously, just make BS up.

On that note: Do not feel bad about your predictions because human intuition is not good at this crap! That's why we have projection systems, and hopefully you don't take these things seriously. If you do take these things seriously and did horribly, however, you should feel bad. Hopefully this is not you.

Finally. . .

The Standings!

  1. CAIRO: 8.706 (SF, LAD, PHI [nailed])
  2. PECOTA: 8.942 (KC, NYM, PIT)
  3. Diamond Mind Blowout Composite: 9.046 (ATL)
  4. Vegas represented by BetUS.com: 9.051 (ATL [nailed], LAD, COL [nailed])
  5. Bill James: 9.233 (KC, ATL [nailed], SF, LAD)
  6. Jonthefon: 9.434 (SEA, NYM [nailed], LAD, COL); 3/8 playoff teams correct.
  7. Oliver: 9.519 (ATL [nailed])
  8. Marcel: 9.720 (BOS)
  9. Bface: 9.883 (TB, TOR, WSN, PIT, SF [nailed]); 4/8 playoff teams correct and AL champions.
  10. Philkid3: 10.085 (KC, NYM, PIT); 3/8 playoff teams and AL champions correct.
  11. TBall: 10.236 (TOR, NYM, LAD); 3/8 playoff teams correct.
  12. Scoop16: 10.391 (KC, PIT); 3/8 playoff teams correct.
  13. .500: 11.223
  14. Matchst1ck: 11.403 (TB [nailed], SD [nailed]); 3/8 playoff teams and AL champions correct.
  15. Josey Wales: 11.857 (LAD), 2/8 playoff teams correct.
  16. 2010: 11.985 (BOS)
  17. Iblum: 13.891 (NYM, LAD, SD); 2/8 playoff teams and AL champions correct.

Did Not Pick Records

  1. Cmkelly29: 5/8 playoff teams and AL champions correct.
  2. Michael bluth: 5/8 playoff teams correct.
  3. Boomer1: 4/8 playoff teams and AL champions correct.
  4. DJCahill: 4/8 playoff teams correct.
  5. Hard8: 4/8 playoff teams correct.
  6. Vfn: 4/8 playoff teams correct.
  7. Slc ranger: 4/8 playoff teams correct.
  8. Adam J. Morris: 3/8 playoff teams and AL Champions correct.
  9. The Best Micah: 3/8 playoff teams and AL champions correct.
  10. AjaxJones: 3/8 playoff teams correct.
  11. Dirk Diggler: 3/8 playoff teams correct.
  12. GhostofErikThompson: 3/8 playoff teams correct.
  13. JBlmaknee: 3/8 playoff teams correct.
  14. JDT217: 3/8 playoff teams correct.
  15. LSJ: 3/8 playoff teams correct.
  16. MonkeyEpoxy: 3/8 playoff teams correct.
  17. RangerMand: 3/8 playoff teams correct.
  18. RCCook: 3/8 playoff teams correct.
  19. Robert L. Bishop: 2/8 playoff teams and AL champions correct.
  20. Mizzou918: 2/8 playoff teams correct.
  21. Utlonghorn24: 2/8 playoff teams correct.
  22. Bigsteve: 2/6 division winners and AL champions correct.
  23. Iorange555: 2/6 divisions correct.
  24. MayurP: 1/6 division winners correct.
  25. GhettoBear04: 1/4 AL playoff teams and champion correct.

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My interest in CAIRO continues.

I’d like to compare it to ZiPS.

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by philkid3 on Jan 28, 2012 12:43 AM CST reply actions  

Yes indeed

my first thought on reading that was to wonder if Cairo had been that good in previous years.

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Jan 28, 2012 7:46 AM CST up reply actions  

So where do we make our 2012 predictions?

Should we do it here, or will there be another post at some point?

Also, predicting records takes too damn much math.

Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan

by LSJ on Jan 28, 2012 2:30 AM CST reply actions  

Too early

That thread from last year was on March 30.

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Jan 28, 2012 7:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Too much can change between now and then.

I’d probably go Yankees, Tigers, Rangers, Red Sox, Angels in the AL as of today. Phillies, Cardinals, Giants, Braves, Reds in the NL.

Yankees over Phillies in the awful World Series.

I originally wrote in just four playoff teams. So weird.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Jan 28, 2012 8:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh fuck

That is weird.

How does 5 playoff teams work again?

I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 28, 2012 8:21 AM CST up reply actions  

One game playoff every fucking year.

So last year for example, the epic last night of the season wouldn’t have mattered. The Rays and Red Sox would have only been playing for where the OGP would be played, and the same for the Braves and Cardinals.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Jan 28, 2012 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought the 2 wild card thing wasn't set in stone yet.

We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls

colonialbob

by mizzou918 on Jan 28, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

It may not happen this year

Because they haven’t hashed out how a tie atop a division affects the tiebreaker game and the wildcard playoff, but it’s absolutely certain for 2013 going forward.

I like pretty dark haired women and breakfast food. - Ron Swanson

by Axe Em Rangers on Jan 28, 2012 9:04 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

we don't even know

how many playoff teams there will be yet.

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Jan 28, 2012 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

gross

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I left LSB Open last night when I went to bed

so now I can’t read the new comments while I’m here at work. Damn.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11

by vfn on Jan 28, 2012 6:05 AM CST reply actions  

Wake up and talk to me, you assholes :(

I’m at work and there’s nothing to read

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11

by vfn on Jan 28, 2012 7:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Did I ever tell you about the time I drove the mayor of New York off of Cliff in a subway car?

Well, it was the summer of 2009.

They mayor and I were dedicating this subway car when a mad terrorist scientist hit us with a shrink-ray. In the commotion somebody kicked on a giant fan, and we got blown out of the subway on to the street above, where the breeze blew us to Yankee Stadium, where Cliff Lee was just exiting the field after the bottom of the first. Cliff took his hat off in the dugout, and we landed on his head and got stuck.

Long story short, I realized we had to get off Cliff’s head before he put his hat back on, or we’d be killed. So, I made a rocket out of the fire extinguishers on the subway car, and drove us off Cliff’s head. Unfortunately, we landed on a sandwich CC Sabathia was in the middle of eating, so we had to get out of the subway car, and get off the sandwich before he ate us.

The mayor almost got stuck in the mayo, but I got him out in time for us to jump onto CC’s belly. His fat cushioned our fall, and we made it out of the dugout without further indecent by climbing onto one of the phone lines attached to the bullpen phone.

After that we had to trek all the way to the Federal building to get unshrunk, but that’s whole other story.

Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan

by LSJ on Jan 28, 2012 8:00 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Diamondbacks

No one saw that coming.

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Jan 28, 2012 8:06 AM CST reply actions  

Nope.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Jan 28, 2012 8:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I expected them to be one of the worst teams in the league.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11

by vfn on Jan 28, 2012 8:14 AM CST up reply actions  

ditto

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Jan 28, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I found a website that appears to have used Diamond Mind and ZiPS to create a forecast.

Haven’t looked at entirely how it did its work, so I’m not including it on the list.

http://darkfloworg.fatcow.com/2011%20MLB%20ZiPS/index.htm

But, it’s final RMSE is 8.961, placing it just behind PECOTA for third. It was close on the Giants and Rangers. Out of interest, it was also only nine games off on the Twins, which is by far the closest of anyone or anything listed here.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Jan 28, 2012 8:13 AM CST reply actions  

Oh, that guy’s just doing a seasonal projection using the disk, not doing it a thousand times.

Preseason, I just have the ESPN run, problem is that was done at end of February.

I meant to do another run at the very start of the season, but I was so busy scrambling to get the disk rosters updated that I didn’t get to it.

--
Dan Szymborski
Dan's Stuff is on: BTF, ESPN, Twitter

by D.Szymborski on Jan 28, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I watched Midnight in Paris last night

Had no real expectations going into it. The first 2-2.5 acts are awesome and you never see it coming. Then it turns into a weird movie and I am convinced I hate it.

I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 28, 2012 8:14 AM CST reply actions  

It's on Netflix.

I’m afraid of it.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Jan 28, 2012 8:14 AM CST up reply actions  

It was one of my favorites for the year, despite mixed feelings for a lot of Allen's later work

but the ending really worked for me.

I just finished Take Shelter, which was really, really good.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11

by vfn on Jan 28, 2012 8:15 AM CST up reply actions  

The ending, and really, the scene right before the ending

Really made me question if I liked the rest of the film.

It was a really interesting melding of people

I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 28, 2012 8:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I also watched it last night

I really, really enjoyed the first hour of it

by Jobu. on Jan 28, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Amusing.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 8:28 AM CST reply actions  

I'm at Starbucks just doin' my thang.

There is a dude next to me who looks, ahem, of Muslim decent (full beard and all), and he is reading a book (not taking any notes or anything) about advanced airplane systems.

Who do I alert?

I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 28, 2012 8:40 AM CST reply actions  

ask him what he thinks about Yu Darvish.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 8:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Getting new tires this morning

Completely forgot headphones so I could watch Netflix while I wait, think I’m going to buy Moneyball for Kindle. Worth it?

I like pretty dark haired women and breakfast food. - Ron Swanson

by Axe Em Rangers on Jan 28, 2012 8:53 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

Yes

I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 28, 2012 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Long night

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 9:05 AM CST via Android app reply actions  

What the hell happened in OT III last night?

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 28, 2012 9:07 AM CST reply actions  

Late Night Loblaw and Friends

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Late night OT is where it's at, Brah

"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix

by bigtill2002 on Jan 28, 2012 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Rec

"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix

by bigtill2002 on Jan 28, 2012 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Who's the fly honey in the pic with her?

Looks familiar

"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix

by bigtill2002 on Jan 28, 2012 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Motherofgod

A Taylor Swift Brittany Daniel threesome.

"I would rather watch a BigTill/KOK sexfest than a 2 1/2 Men or Glee marathon."-River Fenix

by bigtill2002 on Jan 28, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll be in my bunk.

Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.

"I just wanna go gay." - bigtill

by colonialbob on Jan 28, 2012 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Slutwave

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Jan 28, 2012 10:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

So what the hell happened yesterday?

2700 comments? LSB broken? A monkey pooping in the mouth of our beloved Alaskan MILF-in-chief?

Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.

"I just wanna go gay." - bigtill

by colonialbob on Jan 28, 2012 9:27 AM CST reply actions  

Twas beautiful

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Jan 28, 2012 9:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He's amazing...second on the team in block shots per game at 6 foot tall while playing only 15 minutes per.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

.

“God gave me long arms. I just try to use them”

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Jan 28, 2012 10:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I just worry about him getting hurt when he goes for one of those high-flying

lay-ups / dunks in the middle of the forest. Telfair almost hurt him very badly the other night.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

FYI

Davenport has updated his projections.

Rangers now at 96 wins. Angels at 86. 96 wins is still the best.

http://claydavenport.com/PROJHOME.shtml

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 9:36 AM CST reply actions  

Darvish and Feliz much more realistic now.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Darvish and Feliz

Darvish and Feliz
Darvish and Feliz

by octoberty on Jan 28, 2012 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Cairo has Texas at 94 wins and LAAA at 93 wins.

Davenport thinks the Angels add CJ & Pujols and don’t improve? Okay….

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

All of these are very early.

Until March it’s still in the blender.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

in the Blender*

Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.

"I just wanna go gay." - bigtill

by colonialbob on Jan 28, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

True that but saying the Angels aren't going to improve on last year's win total is insane.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Depends on if you think last year's win total was an accurate reflection of their team

I haven’t looked at the numbers, so I don’t know if it was or if it wasn’t.

Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.

"I just wanna go gay." - bigtill

by colonialbob on Jan 28, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

It also assumes they stay as healthy as they did last year OR have the depth to cover for more injuries.

Of course, these don’t fit THE NARRATIVE.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11

by vfn on Jan 28, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Awwwww

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Sosh teams are fairly notorious for out running pythag (Angels were 85-77 pythag last year).

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

how is being a TX Rangers fan even fun for you with your

pessimistic oulook on EVERYTHING positive about the team.

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

He's not a Rangers fan.

Not in the least.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11

by vfn on Jan 28, 2012 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Get it going...c'mon with the racist insult...you know you wanna do it and it's

the true crutch of the unsophisticated.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

e'rbody stop

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

*errrbody

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

The Person doing "it" is vfn...go thru the freaking thread.

Nobody else had anything close to an insult until he started his crap again.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

that's why I said errrbody

it’s slang for everybody.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Thank goodness you cleared that up

I was wondering what the hell this errrbody thing was.

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Jan 28, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

you ain't street.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

What have I said negative about the Rangers this morning?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I was going to ask this today too

Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen

by Schultzy on Jan 28, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

What have I specifically said this morning that was negative about the Rangers?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Missing a prediction?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm pulling what they did last year versus their career numbers and age.

To see how many guys had career years. My guess is that heavy regression back to career numbers (or slightly worse for old guys like Hunter, Wells and Abreu) is what’s happening. I know Weaver and C.J. had career bests last year.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

And you've also said Napoli's 2011 season was a complete fluke, correct?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Do you think Napoli is a true talent 1.044 OPS player?

I think he’s a good hitter with an .873 career OPS. I would expect him to put up between an .880 to .920 OPS next year.

How is a 1.044 OPS anything BUT a fluke? You think he’s going to put up 1.000+ OPS seasons from here on out?

This is an amazing turnaround from a guy who YOU constantly brought up his .316 OBP in 2010.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Napoli's 2010 OBP seems to be the big fluke in his career.

He was a rock solid .350-.374 his first four seasons in The Show…put up a .316 in 2010 followed by .414 last year…what’s halfway between .316 and .414? …it’s .367 (snugly within his career .350-.374)

He came to Arlington and went nuts. Maybe it was because he didn’t have to carry the offense (but he did at times) or was happy to be away from Sosh…who knows?

Napoli is a legitimate hitter…freaking 1078 OPS on the road…better than his numbers in Arlington (1011).

I don’t expect Napoli to be better in 2012 but I certainly expect his OPS to be between .900 – 1000.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Then again, some people claim I'm not a fan of the Rangers.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

So if Napoli ends up with a 910 OPS

Which is within the range you say you expect

Would his 2011 still not look like a fluke?

by bigsteve on Jan 28, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

When Josey gets on a players bandwagon...

He gets ON the bandwagon.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Crazy considering how much he dogged Napoli before last year.

Instructions, Scioscia, and all that.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 28, 2012 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

What was it I specifically said about Napoli?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Tasty bottle of research?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

It doesn't taste like crow.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Kinda like you with Koji?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

What was it I specifically said about Koji?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Babbling about him being the

best reliever (along with Adams) we could have required…gushed about his control and not to worry about him not throwing 97 mph.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Here you go...

“Things didn’t work out and now we’re addressing it. And Koji is a pretty easy "probably" given his 1.6 years of bullpen work has been nearly identical and among the best in the majors. Did you read Joey Matches article? Koji is literally the best reliever we could have acquired outside of Mike Adams… and it’s very close with with him and Adams.”

“That’s what I meant when I said he wasn’t your type of player.
If he had identical numbers with a 97 MPH fastball you wouldn’t sweat it.

Pinpoint control is pretty valid."

http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/7/31/2307189/sunday-morning-rangers-things#73400834

Bon appetit.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Enjoy that bottle of research?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 28, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

yeah...

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

And then I said...

“I’m intrigued by Uehara and after studying the numbers
he could help us a ton.

Perhaps it’s a personal failing but I’m skeptical when it comes to the Deceptive Japanese Con Man routine."

Deceptive Japanese Con Man is not racist when it comes to assessing a pitcher.

It refers to the wild ass deliveries, upsetting a batter’s timing, different arm angles, wide variety of pitches.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

That doesn't sound very specific.

But HR aside… Koji pitched great. He struck out a ton of people and walked almost no one

11.5 K/9 while he was here and a 0.5 BB/9.

Now… saying HR aside is like asking Mrs. Lincoln how she enjoyed the play.

He didn’t adjust very well.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Koji sucked here.

That’s why his ass was inactive during the World Series.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I also said this on August 2nd.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/8/2/2340827/g110gdt5#73655955

Before Koji had a bad game.

Relievers are volatile things.

Even the most sure are never the most sure.

I’m glad we got two of them.

I’m still not worried about Adams.

It’s raining… new club… meh.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Were you wrong on Koji?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I was wrong about how he'd do.

I thought he’d adjust fine and he didn’t.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

How many IP did he have as a rangers?

I forget

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 11:57 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

19 IPs before they shut his ass down.

SSS didn’t seem to bother the LSB Mensas who were ripping Face when he started 3 for 27 in post-season.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I am confused

Why are 19ip a good sample size but 27 ab’s are not?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 12:02 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Because both of them are equally

Worthwile

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 12:02 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Why are the Rangers trying to trade Koji?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Why did the rangers try to trade anyone?

To make the team better, either via acquiring more talent or freeing up salary dollars. Kind of like they did recently with another player.

Or do you think JD hates koji too?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 12:05 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Yes, I believe JD is trying to trade

Uehara because he wants to make the team better.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

Why is 27 ab’s bad but 19ip good measuring sticks?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 12:05 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

It's too late if you don't know now.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Because you are an idiot?

And don’t understand sample sizes of any size?

Learn the basics, get rid of the Michael young game worn glasses and join the real world.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 12:16 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

And I admit to being very wrong about Napoli.

He’s a much different hitter than the player who was in Cali.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

So you can say that

And also not believe 2011 was a fluke?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 28, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, yeah but then again some people

think I’m not a fan of the Rangers.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Or logic, apparently.

You completely missed Match’s point throughout this subthread.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 28, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

No...I think we have to assess

Napoli in a much different light than a year ago.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

No

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Then you think his 2011 was a fluke too.

Because if you thought it was legit… you would project a 1.000 to 1.100 OPS.

Instead you are expecting it come down… because you know it is unsustainable… I think you’re a little too optimistic. Everyone else said the same thing about Josh after his 2010 and he had a sub .900 OPS. Do you think Napoli is a better hitter than Josh?

I have said many many many many times to YOU in defense of Napoli that I think playing here in our environment for Wash instead of Sosh was what helped him be him.

I think Napoli will hit very well… but a 100 to 200 point drop in OPS (which would be .944 to .844) is MASSIVE. If you expect his OPS to drop as almost a certainty… you’re acknowledging it was a fluke.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I do not think his 2011 was a fluke... you do.

There’s nothing about last year that I can question about his 2011 that doesn’t make me think he will repeat his badassery.

Now, if he’s still injured, that could be a problem but I don’t look at his 2011 as a fluke at all.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

If you think he'll repeat his badassery

Why is your projection range anywhere from 44 to 144 points lower than what he did last year.

The top of your range isn’t even what he did.

If Josh Hamilton has a 44 to 144 point reduction in OPS his range would be .738 to .838.

That’s a massive reduction.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure how many games Napoli is going to play

in 2012…he was in a semi-platoon the first 3 months of the season and was also hurt.

Josh going from .838 to .738 is much different than Napoli going from 1044 to .999.

A .738 OPS is shitty to mediocre while a .999 OPS is still Trust Tree Elite.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I have never said Napoli wasn't a great hitter.

Maybe you just don’t understand what I mean by fluke…

When I say that… I mean his numbers will almost be guaranteed to go down. That’s all. For the reasons that you point out.

When I do my player projections, either Josh or Napoli will have the highest projected OPS.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Napoli probably touched his ceiling last year but we don't really know that.

How often have we seen a great Rangers hitter be better on the road than at home?

I’d have to look at ARod’s #’s but Napoli must have set a record for the Rangers highest road OPS last year.

A 1078 road OPS is fucking sick.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Everyone but you think it was a fluke

Mainly because he isnt a 1.000+ ops player

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 11:58 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

I have no clue who some of those end of the bench/bullpen players are.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11

by vfn on Jan 28, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Those were the 3.

I’d also be surprised if Miller gets the first shot out of the bullpen of some of the prospects. Really, really surprised, in fact.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11

by vfn on Jan 28, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

yu're the best

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Over.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Jan 28, 2012 10:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You're going to take the over on any projection system.

Because I doubt any have them higher than 96-97 wins.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

And knowing that...

I think that means you’re not properly weighting risk.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Or not treating my O/U picks as seriously as you want me to.

;)

I’ll do a ZiPS-based depth chart projection again this year, though.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Jan 28, 2012 10:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Can't wait!

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Did I say what he did was wrong?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Did his projection for Leonys go up?

I think it did, if only a little bit.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 28, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

It did. His last one had .256 / .331 / .385.

This one is .264/.341/.401.

I would absolutely take that from Leonys this year with good CF defense.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 28, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I'vr received 2 parking tickets downtown dallas the last 10 days..

I didnt even know they had parking meter enforcer people.. fuck.

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 9:41 AM CST reply actions  

35

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

what UIF are still out there that are possibilites for our 25 man?

also, is mike gonzalez going to sign w us? or are we waiting for his medicals to come back?

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 9:43 AM CST reply actions  

thought he retired? renteria will work i guess

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

out of all the fucking people to be the spokesman for my favorite whiskey... Makers Mark

chooses Jimmy fucking Fallon…. ugh.

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 9:45 AM CST reply actions  

I bet he doesn't even drink.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

did you smoke more than 1 cig last night? you did didnt you...

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

yes...

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

You're a bad man,

drinking while not smoking can almost be impossible.

by lost in space on Jan 28, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I still like him.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I like Fallon late night show

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Jan 28, 2012 11:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Makers Mark is weak

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Jan 28, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Got to go with that Kentucky Deluxe

It comes in a plastic bottle!

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Jan 28, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, but you can toss that thing around and not have to clean up broken glass the next day

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Jan 28, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

pretty good synopsis of jerry's nfl network interview

link

love this part…where everyone initially took calvin watkin’s word as gold…uhm, no.

Most of you are aware that on Monday Jerry Jones explained Eli Manning was the reason for the Giants’ success this season, and how he was the difference in the games between Dallas and New York. Furthermore, I’m sure most of you are aware, that Calvin Watkins took his quotes out of context, cherry picked a juicy line, and fabricated a controversy that Jerry Jones was throwing Tony Romo, much maligned star Quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, under the proverbial bus.

I would hope by now, those of you who know about that story, also took time to see the comments in their entirety at the mothership, and understand, that at no point Jerry badmouthed Romo. If you still think Jerry badmouthed Tony Romo, let me summarize for you what Jerry Jones said. Jerry Jones said that the quarterback position, for the Dallas Cowboys, was not a position needing much improvement. Jerry Jones felt, that Tony Romo was playing at a level similar to Eli Manning; meaning Tony was playing like a playoff caliber QB. Jones went on to say, indirectly, that the rest of the team needs to play at as high a level as Tony Romo before the Cowboys can start to jell like the Giants. More specifically, Jerry hinted that changes will come to the secondary, the offensive line, and possibly the pass rush and or defensive line as well…

by Longhorn on Jan 28, 2012 10:22 AM CST reply actions  

Vegas odds from tihs morning to win 2012 World Series

Philadelphia Phillies 11/2
Los Angeles Angels 13/2
New York Yankees 13/2
Detroit Tigers 9/1
Texas Rangers 9/1
Boston Red Sox 10/1
Florida Marlins 15/1
San Francisco Giants 16/1
St. Louis Cardinals 18/1
Arizona Diamondbacks 20/1
Atlanta Braves 20/1
Tampa Bay Rays 20/1
Cincinnati Reds 25/1
Washington Nationals 25/1
Colorado Rockies 30/1
Los Angeles Dodgers 30/1
Milwaukee Brewers 30/1
Toronto Blue Jays 30/1
Chicago Cubs 35/1
Chicago White Sox 50/1
Cleveland Indians 50/1
Minnesota Twins 50/1
Pittsburgh Pirates 65/1
Kansas City Royals 75/1
New York Mets 75/1
Oakland Athletics 75/1
Seattle Mariners 75/1
San Diego Padres 90/1
Baltimore Orioles 100/1
Houston Astros 100/1

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 10:38 AM CST reply actions  

As a reminder...

This isn’t who Vegas thinks is most likely to win the World Series. It’s a reflection of how people are betting.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a bit more complicated than that.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 28, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Sure.

But the important thing to know is that Vegas doesn’t want to be right… it just wants to make money.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

This is not like trying to get actions on both sides of a game so they make money.

If their opinions (odds) are out of whack, they’ll get killed so there’s quite a bit of opinion with these odds.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

They expect to make money no matter who wins.

And they adjust their odds accordingly. Only one team can win the World Series… they cash in on all the other bets.

They adjust all of them based on a combination of how likely they think the teams will do, but will also adjust based on action.

I bet there were a ton of bets on the Angels after they got Pujols and C.J.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Astros!!

I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)

by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 10:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It'll be ok, B'more fans.

That synergy will pay off.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 28, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Cincy at 25-1 and Cle at 50-1 look like the best values.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 28, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

I like Atlanta.

Their young starting pitching could take them a long way.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 28, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Boston at 10-1.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Rays and Nats ain't bad

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 11:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It makes me said that I can't have an intelligent baseball talk with my dad anymore

He’s taught me more about the game than anyone, but he just tried to tell me that we should get Oswalt because he’s a former 20 game winner.

/facepalm

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 10:40 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Sad*

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 10:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

ask him if he still wants to screw

Brigette Bardot because she used to be hot.

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Jan 28, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

My dad has always been open to learning new things, and honest with the potential that what he thinks could be wrong.

I have never in my life had a frustrating sports conversation with him.

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by philkid3 on Jan 28, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

It's under my fanpost tab...

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 10:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It does.

Toggle over to recently posted.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Jan 28, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I love the word "toggle"

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Fun word

Not as fun as Fransisco

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 10:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Indeed, that's how I got here.

I just find it weird that sometimes it’s not under the Fanpost tab until later in the day.

by lost in space on Jan 28, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

So if I'm going to see a Christian rock band tonight

Is it going to look bad if I drink?

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Jan 28, 2012 11:04 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

just rig up in the bathroom.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

my brother is a preacher and he drinks good beers.

he only has one or two / week or so….

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh good.

I was about to have to reevaluate my beliefs.

by lost in space on Jan 28, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Suppose I'll have to keep it moderate

And not do any heckling

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Jan 28, 2012 11:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Fair point

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Jan 28, 2012 11:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

kidscryingjesusraptor.gif

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 28, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Why are you seeing a Christian rock band?

Contemporary Christian music sucks.

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 11:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The only Christian band I like is Skillet

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 11:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

And "Hellyeah!"

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 11:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Is there no thread he won't infest?

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 28, 2012 11:05 AM CST reply actions  

I want JW to go to a tailgate

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Jan 28, 2012 11:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Good lord that would be awesome.

I envision everyone paying $1 to try to dunk him in a booth full of chili with beans.

by lost in space on Jan 28, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I envision everyone punching him in the face for 2 hours

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Jan 28, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Tar n' feathers!

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 11:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You gonna run to Big Ed Coffin to do that as well?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Is this you saying that you want to show up to a tailgate?

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Jan 28, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Not today, not this thread.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Fuck off

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 12:17 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Aint gonna happen.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 28, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Authorities say the Deceptive Japanese Con Man applied a dab of fish oil

to brand-new panties, then stocked them in his vending machines as “schoolgirl worn.”

by Schoolly_D on Jan 28, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

What specific comment today has you in a lather?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

(MS & J) are a couple.

So you mean to say: “Is there no thread that doesn’t serve to exhibit their embarrassing, and relentlessly compulsive entanglement with each other?”

No.

by Goyogringo on Jan 28, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

wat

Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.

"I just wanna go gay." - bigtill

by colonialbob on Jan 28, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Then I suppose I must simply disagree.

Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.

"I just wanna go gay." - bigtill

by colonialbob on Jan 28, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Goyo is right.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Jan 29, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Just remind him of how highly he touts his own predictions.

And how much he criticizes other people’s and projections, despite the actual results.

I’m pretty sure I was derided for thinking the Orioles would end up closer to 72 wins than 91.

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by philkid3 on Jan 28, 2012 12:03 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Where did you have the Twins?

I don’t mind admitting when I STBF with a prediction or an opinion but you sure as hell do.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I was very wrong on the Twins. I have no trouble with that at all.

Who said I did?

Still did better than you, despite never claiming I’m particularly good at making intuitive guesses. How bout that!

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by philkid3 on Jan 28, 2012 12:27 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Doesnt see how the Angels don't win 98 games this year.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 28, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

x
SportsBizMiss Kristi Dosh
Ochocinco bought 70 Beats by Dre headphones to give out to each of his teammates for flight to Super Bowl. Estimated at $400/each

by octoberty on Jan 28, 2012 11:17 AM CST reply actions  

$400 headphones....

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I was excited about him this year

That ended up being a huge mistake.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11

by vfn on Jan 28, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Heh

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 11:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ochocinco bought 70 Beats by Dre headphones to give out

this sentence reads like a run-on.. seems like it needs a punctuation mark..

by oc on Jan 28, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I had to read it twice

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 11:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Is it really confusing to you?

The headphones are called “Beats by Dre.”

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 28, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

the dumb bitch needs to put quotations around the 'Beats By Dre' part

or at least capitalize the ‘By’ part

Twitter: the dumbing down of society

by oc on Jan 28, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

....... hmm.

Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.

"I just wanna go gay." - bigtill

by colonialbob on Jan 28, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

He gets upset about the weirdest things.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 28, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 11:51 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

yeah, that's not exciting

if i were getting personalized Dre beats, THEN i’d be excited

by oc on Jan 28, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

You have to be high off weed to get it

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 11:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

What?!

I guess Dre finally outgrew the Chronic.

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 11:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

shyeah

nobody outgrows the grass

remember all the press Snoop got in the early oughts when he said he was giving up weed… to be a better dad… be a pee-wee football coach, etc…

lol

by oc on Jan 28, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

AUGHTS*

For fuck’s sake.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Jan 28, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Clearly he has spent too much time on twitter

Anger logic's so great I kinda forget what we saw in regular logic in the first place.

"I just wanna go gay." - bigtill

by colonialbob on Jan 28, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

anyone know of an android app (free) that plays lossless audio files (.flac)

thanks

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 11:26 AM CST reply actions  

x

Try this

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Jan 28, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

you are nice.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

he is very nice

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 11:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Since this is the first OT thread of the weekend...

Here’s the GDT for the Baylor-Texas MBB game at noon.

http://www.ourdailybears.com/2012/1/28/2754494/1-28-2012-baylor-bears-vs-texas-longhorns-mbb-game-thread

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 28, 2012 11:34 AM CST reply actions  

Go Bears.

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 11:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Neither did I and I've actually been over there pretty recently.

Where is it, oc?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 28, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

yep, they're out of Texas Hall

they were starting to build a new activities center when i left, i wonder if the arena is just attached to it.

by oc on Jan 28, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Baylor sucks.

"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM

by e2drummer on Jan 28, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

So does auburn

It’s on

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 12:08 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

*ok

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 12:08 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

So you admit Baylor sucks?

"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM

by e2drummer on Jan 28, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Jan 28, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm just continuing the bit.

"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM

by e2drummer on Jan 28, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

It's fucking annoying

Among other reasons because Baylor isn’t named alabama and it makes you look like a dumbass

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 12:11 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Then get a thicker skin.

"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM

by e2drummer on Jan 28, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Then don't continue a stupid bit

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 12:17 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

It's your fault you get mad from something as small as "Baylor sucks"

Aqua just brushed it off and went on with his life. Plus, I never flame Baylor on here. It’s not like I do this all the time.

"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM

by e2drummer on Jan 28, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Hate that.

Standing in the shower is about the only thing that will open everything up when it gets to that point for me.

by other_shoe on Jan 28, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Ear infection?

I’m still getting over one from 3 weeks ago.

"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM

by e2drummer on Jan 28, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Sean Penn asked me to fly to Haiti with him to help the less fortunate

But I can’t take the pain and human suffering… Of a plane ride with Sean Penn.

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by Gay For Feliz on Jan 28, 2012 11:58 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

This is why we don't fucking combine the OT threads with baseball stuff.

So Josey doesn’t come in here and shit all over it.

Fuck.

A burden should never be something out of your control.

by benjihana on Jan 28, 2012 12:06 PM CST reply actions  

Post a new ot thread

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 28, 2012 12:07 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

195 yet?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Jan 28, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

198 today :)

A burden should never be something out of your control.

by benjihana on Jan 28, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

burn.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 28, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

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