Rangers sign Ron Washington to two year contract extension
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 30, 2012 3:17 PM CST
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PrintPer Rangers' p.r. maven John Blake, the Rangers have signed Ron Washington to a two year contract extension, which runs through 2014.
Kind of amazing that the guy who some thought was going to be fired both early in the 2007 season and early in the 2008 season is not only still here, but seems like a near-lock to be the Rangers' manager at least through the end of this latest extension.
Ron Washington has the third longest tenure of any manager in Ranger history, and currently sports a 427-383 career record. He's in position to pass Johnny Oates for second on the Rangers' all-time games managed list in early May, 2013, and to pass Bobby Valentine atop the list in 2014.
I was long a Ron Washington doubter, and expressed my belief that Jon Daniels had screwed up his first managerial hire. I've come around on Washington, though, and I'm glad he's here managing the Rangers.
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JD says,
“how you like me now bigsteve!!!”
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 30, 2012 3:20 PM CST reply actions
Good for you, Wash.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Love his personality, like to see him succeed and be rewarded.
but Im not a fan of his World Series managing skills.
I agree wholeheartedly.
There's one word that describes baseball - `You never know.' - Joaquin Andujar
by jbooth17 on Jan 30, 2012 3:28 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
What things do you question about the 2010 WS?
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
Honestly I can't even really remember specifics off the top of my head
I havn’t watched or gone back to anything about that series since it happened. In any case, certainly don’t blame him for the WS losses, just recall as much frustration with him in those series as with months of the regular season.
So you're cool with how he managed the 2 ALDSs and the two ALCSs.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
jackie moore
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 30, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
Running Vlad out to RF in PacBell was...suboptimal.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Oh yeah.
That’s by far one of the worst moves of that series, if not the worst.
by lost in space on Jan 30, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
I don't want that to sound too negative either.
I do like the extension – overall I think hes a reasonable game manager, good motivator, team likes him, and the personality is nice little side +.. this is entertainment at its core after all.
ughh
pitch to Albert!!
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Love that shirt.
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 30, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
ah there it is
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I'll see what I can do.
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I've just accepted the fact
that every manager has flaws and all things considered, I think Wash’s flaws are ones I can live with.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
That sounds worse than I meant it to
heh. I’ll add that Wash’s strengths in people motivating are evident and important, the guy is a real leader of men.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
I would have put it like that
I do think every manager has flaws. Don’t think anybody is close to perfect – and for whatever reason, you really get much closer to perfect in the other sports.
Regardless, being a leader is a lot more important in baseball.
Exactamundo.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
yes
If Texas loses the next 2 world series, with some of his odd lineups or late-game moves coming into quesiton (pen, leaving SP too long, def. replacements, PH, etc.) do you think 4 years of losing rises to a firing offense? Or, will 4 years of winning get him an extension? I guess the makeup of the team will also play a large part in that decision. Do you think Wash’s style might wear on players or do you think he’s built for the long run?
I think his style is perfect
He is just loose enough that players are relaxed and play hard for him yet he keeps them from being too relaxed and the times that has happened he holds them accountable which keeps it from happening again.
Yep.
I’ve seen past Rangers teams quit on managers before, but they’ve never quit on Wash. I’ll live with what we generally perceive to be in-game managing quirks or flaws.
And if you subscribe to the theory that the manager of the Rangers today is a bus driver of elite talent, well, you couldn’t have a nicer bus driver. Nice to see a hard-working lifelong baseball man receive the big payoff.
We start
With the White Sox, Mariners and Twins. Good opportunity to get off to a good start.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Bullpen management
not you, particularly, but I think a lot of people get on him for this, and I think a lot of strategery of the bullpen usage actually comes from Maddux.
Wash has the final say, of course, but those are Maddux’s soldiers and he’s the bus driver in that realm, i’ve always thought
Well JD is giving him a pretty fool proof bullpen this year
Depending on who the lefty ends up being, a Nathan/Adams/Ogando/Uehara pen could be pretty nasty from the 7th-9th.
by dumdum000333 on Jan 30, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
x
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 30, 2012 3:26 PM CST reply actions
Good for him.
Still remember before game 3 of the ALDS against TB and he’s out there working on fielding with guys before the game. I don’t recall seeing a lot of managers out on the field before a game actually doing something besides watching and talking.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
He stays for as long as his players will run through a wall for him.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Sooooo is he the best Rangers manager of all time or right place/right time?
Go big or go home!! Bet big to win big!!
by Steamin' Beamin' on Jan 30, 2012 3:39 PM CST reply actions
Could be both, right?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I don't know that he can ever replace the spot in my heart I have for Johnny Oates
Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and things with... molecular structures.
by kevinkinsler on Jan 30, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
eh, just checking to see if we're still marginalizing his success
I thought I’d see “he’s the most successful, but not the best” or perhaps, “he’s the best guy for this particular team, but certainly not the best ever.”
Go big or go home!! Bet big to win big!!
by Steamin' Beamin' on Jan 30, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
I just don't think the Rangers have a storied enough history
to not make him the best Rangers manager of all time. It’s not really close.
I don’t think people would just call it “right place/right time” and acknowledge that he has a special sauce but people would also still readily acknowledge flaws. And I think most people on this board (though not sure) would think that the good far outweighs the bad.
I do think he's the best one.
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Jan 30, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, both.
In a lesser era (not hard to find) of Rangers baseball, I could easily see wash having been fired after 1-2 years as many managers are on losing teams. As mentioned, it almost did happen here.
Harder to recognize a good manager on a bad time than a bad manager on a good team.
back to back pennants help :D
@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.
Cocksuckers
After seeing back to back WS runs, and hearing that audio tape, Wash is the man. Well deserved extension.
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Jan 30, 2012 3:50 PM CST via mobile reply actions
yea that audio tape is gold
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elvis makes me smile
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 30, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
I was with Dutch on this one.
I thought he could get the shutout.
"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball
I did too but can you imagine if Dutch would've screwed it up?
When I was at the ballpark and the crowd was going crazy I was against pulling him. Now I definitely think it was the right move.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 30, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
I like that the umpire became a spectator for the last 30 seconds
Just wanting to see what would happen like the rest of us
by ab03 on Jan 30, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ha
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That and the pregame talk between them
two of my all-time favorite Ranger moments.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Good for Wash.
The man has become a Texas Ranger icon. Players love him, fans love him. Love his enthusiasm.
I just hope in next year’s Series he only has to manage 3 games in an NL park.
"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball
pfft..
we’ll get the sweep this time and not mess around
Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and things with... molecular structures.
by kevinkinsler on Jan 30, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Never have listened to that leaked pregame speech...could never bring myself to do it.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
It was good. Really. Really. Good.
I get not listening to it though.
by elchicodelgado on Jan 30, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
I might have fit in better...
in corporate America if my team meetings had been like that.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
What type of team are we talking about here?
Switch hitters?
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Jan 30, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Me either.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'm willing to bet it won't hurt nearly as much as it did the day it came out.
by lost in space on Jan 30, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
That's what I thought about watching highlights of Josh Hamilton's Game 6 home run...
I was wrong.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 30, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't watched any of Game 6...probably never will either.
by lost in space on Jan 30, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
I can't
I remember telling my buddies when Josh came up to bat how useless it was cause of how hurt he was. Then he hit that screamer and I thought “OH GOD 30 YEARS OF LOVING SHITTY TEAM IS OVER”
I hate game 6, I will always hate game 6. Fuck I am depressed now
@AdamLikesBeer If you are in Minneapolis I can tell you where to get a good brew.
It's not about it hurting...
It seems inappropriate. It wasn’t meant for my ears.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
It's gold. After listening to it I understand why players love him.
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Jan 30, 2012 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
I understood after he first did the Washington jiggle.
but I’ve listened to it and yeah that’s cool.. felt a little weird listening to it though.
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Won't listen to it.
Not for my ears. I want to, but I can’t. I’m wondering if I’d feel differently if they had won the game.
by Jose Cardenal on Jan 30, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
If they woulda won i sure as hell would've listened to it.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
You should
it will make you love not just Wash, but this whole team that much more.
Gosh…I love these guys (wips tear)
"If he ain't struck you out, then you ain't nobody." - Ricky Henderson after Nolan Ryan's 5,000 strike out game
How much money we talkin' bout here?
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by Atticus F on Jan 30, 2012 4:17 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Glad to hear this.
I also doubted the guy at first but am definitely sold on him now.
"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH
I still don't like the way he manages a bullpen
but he’s deserving of the extension, and he really seems to be able to get the players up and ready to play most of the season. That is crucial in a 162 game schedule.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
could be Maddux....but ultimately it falls on the manager.
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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
the ultimate decision is Wash's
Maddux may give advice from time to time which he wouldn’t be without blame, but I’d say most of it is Wash. He’s the manager. Those decisions fall on his head.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
and as a manager he relies on his coaches to do their job
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disagree
Wash may decide to overrule from time to time, but most of these calls come from Maddux – he has a more pull than the average pitching coach
I don't see Maddux go out there and take the ball
Ultimately, the call is Wash’s
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I think it's more Maddux.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
yes.. and it pretty much is for me now.
I think I remember it being said the bullpen is pretty much Maddux’s call most of the time now.
Before Maddux, Wash was terrible though so I won’t absolve all the blame from him.
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I don't know if it's all on Maddux
but you surely have to include him in any criticism.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
I just love thinking about the 4 managerial candidates that were interviewed that year
Looking at their respective successes and failures makes for a great study in managing baseball.
My personal choice was Acta.
Can you recite who they all were? I remember.. but some don't. Heh.
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the dude from KC....fuck I can't remember his name.
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Trey Hillman
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it's all coming back now
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thats it......god i'm soo glad JD made the right hire.
didn’t seem like it then but now its no brainer.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
The screams on this board when we didn't hire Hillman...
not that I can say much since I was kind of upset about Acta, but I honestly didn’t know enough about any of these people and trusted JD.
hindsight is 20/20 but I can understand why people were upset
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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Oh jeez, that is a bad memory re: Hillman
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
I really, really didn't want Hillman
Wash was who I wanted. Seriously. Think it was the whole D thing.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Jan 30, 2012 7:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Of course
Hillman, Acta, Wakamatsu, Washington.
I think John Russell might have been interviewed too but I never count him
You do have the best memory!
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
Rumored candidate, IIRC
But the managing job was being dangled in SD, pretty sure.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
Acta
He was the guy I wanted. Looks like JD knew best.
"Those cocksuckers asking me if I thought we were gonna go up there and try to work his fuckin’ pitch count ‘cause he’s on three fuckin’ days rest…you know what I told those cocksuckers? He pitch ball, ball cross plate, we gonna knock the shit out of it."
- Wash
I still think Acta might have been good here
and he was my favorite at the time.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
He uses the word "certainly" more than any other manager.
Thats gotta count for something.
Anybody know a place to get a Wash t-shirt?
by Sam Elliott's 'stache on Jan 30, 2012 4:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
University of Washington
then that other Wash shirt too.. two greats that I wish I had.
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the Ron Washington Show
I love listening to his pre-game radio show with Eric Nadel. Everytime Eric asks a question, Wash always starts off his response in a reserved gentleman tone:
‘Yes we did…’, ‘Well no, he didn’t…’ ‘Well, yes, I think…’ ‘Well, no, we certainly…’
by oc on Jan 30, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
yup.. was talking about it the other week.
Time to add Wash as another accomplishment of the great JD. heh.
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Who's ready for a Kinz Extenze?
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"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
Well
I suspect I’m in with a large group, not happy with a lot of his in-game decisions, but the Rangers are winning, the team seems to back him, so he stays. No point in bitching about it.
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
He's like your brother-in-law
who gets drunk and urinates in your bathtub, but then you remember he brought the 24 pack to begin with.
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by Atticus F on Jan 30, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Fourth inning bunts!
I like Ron Washington and am glad he’ll be around.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 30, 2012 6:02 PM CST reply actions
Wash's gut can leave you scratching your head......
but its really hard to not like the guy. The players love him and he just seems to be having a lot of fun. I remember in his first couple seasons seeing interviews with him after losses and he looked like he could burst into tears at any moment. Glad to see him stick around awhile.
The biggest change since Wash took over is the change in the team's philosophy from relying on the longball to defense, pitching, and base running
He should get credit for the change in philosophy and the success it brings, even in TBIA.
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Jan 30, 2012 10:26 PM CST reply actions
thanks hammer
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Definitely soured on Wash a few years ago, but am now glad he'll be around.
I just hope the extension comes with NL-style managing skills, too.
This day is slightly marred by the fact that John Rhadigan sucks a flaming bag of shit. - LiamP
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