Josh Hamilton relapses
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 2, 2012 8:36 PM CST
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PrintPer the DMN, among other places, Rangers outfielder Josh Hamilton was spotted consuming alcohol in a bar this week.
A ballplayer drinking in a bar would normally, of course, be a non-story, but given Josh Hamilton's history of substance abuse, he's been outspoken about avoiding drugs and alcohol.
This relapse comes at a time when the Rangers and Hamilton are supposedly talking about a long-term contract extension, which would keep Hamilton from becoming a free agent at the end of this season.
Along with the issue of Hamilton's history of health issues, Hamilton's past history of substance abuse is a concern that comes into play in determining how much to commit to Hamilton, and for how long.
A Rangers spokesman acknowledged the existence of a "situation," but said nothing else about what is going on, and all we really know at this point is that Hamilton was reportedly drinking.
Stay tuned...
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Impossible and sickly..
All I can think is this helps the Rangers if they pursue longterm deal.
Human side though, awful…just awful.
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
Same here.
I alternate between being sad for Josh and potentially happy for resigning him easier. Then I feel like a douche.
addiction is rough
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 8:39 PM CST via mobile reply actions
It's incredibly rough
Any addiction is hard to battle, even aside from drug and alcohol addictions.
I used to own Mickey Tettleton's couch.
I remember how hard it was for me to quit smoking.
I can’t even imagine how tough it would be to kick booze or drugs.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -- Rogers Hornsby
by CrustytheCowboy on Feb 2, 2012 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
Bad news for Josh.
I hope he can stay on top of this thing.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
by jam0152 on Feb 2, 2012 8:41 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I fear for him the day he doesn't have baseball to keep him busy.
by 3hacks on Feb 2, 2012 8:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I have to hope that once his baseball career is done,
he’ll find ways to keep himself in recovery. I wonder if leaving the stresses of baseball behind might not actually help, in some ways…
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yea while stressfull you got to think it keeps him just as distracted and he also has the club house to help keep him on track as well as his family.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 2, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
His family's not going anywhere when he retires.
One question is whether he can find another “distraction” that doesn’t carry the concomitant stresses of baseball. There are an awful lot of things he can be doing that won’t have his performance out in front of millions of people everyday for months on end. The Stone tragedy couldn’t have been at all easy for him…
The other question is whether he can find a substitute for the clubhouse support network (however strong that is, or not — we don’t really have much of a sense of that, I don’t think).
I’m not saying that either question will be easy to answer. I’m hoping, for Hamilton’s sake, that he can find answers to them.
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No doubt.
Wasn’t saying that or not trying to. My point was is the Club house and the distraction of baseball wont be there and that will only make it harder. Key as you said will be finding another distraction that is healthy.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 2, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
Again, I don't know how much of a net positive baseball is to Hamilton,
from a mental health perspective, or how much of a support structure the clubhouse provides him.
I could see the potential, 25 years down the line, for him giving an interview in which he talks about how amazing his run in baseball was, but how important getting out of the spotlight and daily performance pressure have been to his continued sobriety.
It’s just very hard to say.
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he's supposed to speak at a Christian event in Katy tomorrow
wonder what happens
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
Woah
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
Sad
Well, I guess this flies directly in the face of his recent belief that he might not need an “accountability partner”….sigh
by Chaim Witz on Feb 2, 2012 8:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions
No.
She pours tequila on her tits.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
I don't want to be all high and mighty here
But Josh made the rules, not us. If he can’t follow his own rules of sobriety, then every drink like this is a pretty big deal.
but it's still possible that it was a misunderstanding
or something. We don’t know at this point.
I’m not saying it’s likely. You would hope Fraley wouldn’t have run with this unless there was something there and he was sure, but we still don’t know at this point.
For all we know right now, the "something" was that he was drinking in moderation & behaving himself.
And before anyone responds with the “addicts can’t control themselves” thing, I’ll tell you now that I’m not going to care or respond.
You can not care
But does the fact that he has so much to lose yet said eff it and drank in public view not seem like a sign at all?
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe, or maybe not.
I’m just not going to change my opinion on the guy because I heard he had some beers.
Now if it turns out to be worse than that, then it’s a huge concern. But for now, I’m reserving any kind of judgment.
So, it's not "until you hear something more than him being in a bar,"
but rather, “until you hear something more than him being in a bar and drinking in moderation, behaving himself”?
People in recovery can addiction can often control themselves in some, even many, aspects of their lives. Those who do best in recovery tend to understand the areas in which they can’t control themselves. After Tempe, Hamilton said he realized he can’t control himself in terms of alcohol consumption. That’s a story. It doesn’t really matter if you care or respond…
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You can pass judgment or not.
That doesn’t mean it’s a “non-story.”
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Ok, non-story as far as I'm concerned.
I, perhaps incorrectly, assumed that the last clause was understood.
Well, "non-story" and "I'm not passing judgment"
are sort of two different clauses.
I don’t much care about what people think of Hamilton’s morality, on a personal level. But I do care about what Hamilton reportedly being in a bar and drinking alcohol — even one drink — means for him and the Rangers.
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right no one has said he abused it and got drunk just that he drank. So its not that he commited a horrible act in what he did for a person in general its just cause of his situation that even a drink can be a big deal and in this case is a big story…
by MoralesHomers on Feb 2, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
and it was on a Monday
no one gets into trouble on a monday
Mondays, I hate Mondays.
They make me-e so steamed.
Weekends, all about the weekends!
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I can't imagine the DMN allows this to be posted
unless they trust the info.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
That sucks. Hopefully it just turns out to be a minor setback.
But any setback with addiction is big so …
Too bad.
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
Or O'Douls.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Coors Cutter?
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
that didnt take long.
josh hamilton trending worldwide.
im not a praying man.. but just said one for his family.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 8:48 PM CST reply actions
I know a lot of people have angst because it may have been just a drink but it is still concerning.
Im drinking a beer now so that’s not the issue. The issue is that he knows he’s extremely scrutinized, he’s in a contract year so stands to lose millions and anything he does in public is sure to be reported yet he still “drank in a bar”.
No, the issue is that he's an addict and one drink is one drink too many for him.
"You'll be able to grow a beard in a couple days now" -- Mike E 2/1/2012
by Mike the Grate on Feb 2, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
the issue is that he is an alcoholic
he can’t just have a beer
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 8:50 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Agreed.
I guess my post was poorly worded. My point was that “a drink” isn’t normally an issue but when you know how much you have to lose yet say to hell with it you clearly have a problem and can’t have “a drink”.
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
pity
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
Suq
Was hoping for a no-drama year for josh. He’s one dude that’s been thru a lot.
by mattrpav on Feb 2, 2012 8:56 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Not that this means anything
But someone on Newbergs site said they were talking about this on 105.3 the fan, so I tuned in. He’s saying it was at Sherlocks in Arlington.
bar
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:03 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
it sells food
but mainly a bar
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:03 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Also rumors flying that Ian was there....
Not sure what to think of that.
Didn't someone post facebook statuses to that effect today?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Coudl be good or bad. Could mean the players are not helping keep him accountable and helping him stay away from alcohol (though according to actions after you guys won the West that seems unlikley right.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 2, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Why is that?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Because they seemed to go out of there way to make sure they at least some (maybe it was just CJ Wilson) celebrated elsewhere without alcohol.
Just had seemed they were trying to help them from the outside here.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 2, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
no way.. there would have been a million pics posted all over facebook and twitter...
sherlocks is BUSY BUSY BUSY every night of the week
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
THIS GUY KNOWS!
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
you mean like last time when it took months for the pics to surface?
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Feb 2, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
That was at some hole in the wall in Arizona.
He was at a bar (incredibly popular one at that) in the DFW area, with Ian Kinsler, making them instantly recognizable and under immediate scrutiny. That there were no pics to surface of him drinking almost immediately is a bit strange.
the bar from the arizona incident was huge...and it was over spring break in tempe
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Feb 2, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't look that busy in the pics
And he’s definitely more recognizable with Kinsler in Arlington than he would be on his own with 3 ho’s in Temple.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
I was there a week before Christmas
It was a week night. Around 10, a shitty band was beginning to play and there were 8 people there. It’s not always packed.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
January 31st would've been Tuesday night
Similar circumstances maybe
A burden should never be something out of your control.
Tuesday can be decently busy
not as busy as the weekends or monday but not bad
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:28 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
If anything about this could make me laugh...
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 3, 2012 8:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I remember when he made a comment about not needing Jerry Narron anymore (right around the time he took on his father in law for a short while as his accountability guy....which he dumped rather quickly)
I had a bad feeling when I heard that….
Never good to get cocky when you’re in recovery….almost never turns out well.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
nope
I worried about the same thing. it is too easy to say it will be a one time deal or something. your mind can talk you into anything
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:06 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I don't know.
I see it everyday….someone has been sober for a good while and thinks they don’t need what has kept them that way b/c they think they have it whipped….then….BAM.
Not everyone is that way though..
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
we just kicked my alcoholic brother-in-law out because he had two beers
he is a ticking time bomb. He can’t control it. He went 3 months without drinking then one day he scounges up some $ and buys a couple bottles of beer. No problem when he is sober but don’t want him around drunk.
Scary part, I remember an interview when he was still in TB, saying that hearing about he fucked up made him wanna abuse more.
I can understand that….Now he gets to hear how he fucked up……Ugh.
Que sera, sera.
I really don't see how his wife will let him leave Texas.....
assuming Texas will re-sign him this is the most sheltered place he can get…
He may just go buckfuckingwild if he wound up in NY or somewheres similar.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
That is typically a short term fix.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
human nature
you can call it cocky, but we are forgetful people mostly.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
why doens't his wife just be his accountability partner?
i can’t think of a better choice.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
yeah, i was kidding
sorry…should have been more obvious.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
Wasn’t it more the Father in law said he couldn’t do it (when rangers were going to hire him to take Narron’s role cause of family issues? So it wasn’t necessarally Hamilton.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 2, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
The subject line is your friend
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
Two things
1) We use subject lines here.
2) It was both. And you should probably assume we know better than you do.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Ok sorry normally use subject line but didn’t didn’t realize it was bad since it wasn’t a pic or anything.
And yea you probably do and it was asked as a question hence the question marks and format. I read this on a rangers web article hat thats what it was thats why I asked.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 2, 2012 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
Man I really wanted to defend you
It’s odd but the fact that you’re a Kendry Morales fan made me feel for you since I hate what happened to him because that’s not how you should get hurt. Then you went all passive aggressive and said go to hell I don’t wanna use a subject line. C’mon man.
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
He posts on HH and his name includes Is MoralesHomers.
Is your confusion related to my not being happy Kendry was hurt a few years ago?
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it kinda was.
I hate when people celebrate players on other teams getting hurt or having awful things happen. When Kendry was hurt a few years ago celebrating his walkoff it bothered me how some were happy about what happened to him. Soooooo, I appreciated a Kendry fan not reveling in the current Josh situation. Damn, this comment and my last one looked nothing alike so yeah I nderstand not making the leap.
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
MoralesHomers!
You come back to Halos Heaven right this minute!
Your Angels: Telling Pythagoras to go to hell since 2004.
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Feb 2, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So the lovely lady was MoralesHomers' mom all along.
I KNEW IT.
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Also
understand your morales comment. And yea like you said below I also hate those that celebrate other teams player injuries or the like also. But passive agressive come on man no one was being passive agressive.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 2, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
The whole not using a subject line to respond to the not using a subject line post was a little passive aggressive.
It may seem trivial, and it probably is, but it’s part of the board etiquette. Same as the fact that on HH you get called out for using your on F bomb a month when Rev uses many.
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
Yea.
And I don’t really post on HH much but that is a strict one there.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 2, 2012 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
So no I'll intent on your part and you're ok with me.
Your intent was good so Internet bump and we cool?
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
Johnny Narron*
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 3, 2012 8:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
This might be a good thing
If Josh was getting cocky about his recovery then a small slap might actually turn out better in the long run.
From some guy on Twitter.
TxRangerFanTJ TJ Leonard
Can anyone explain to me why the HELL Josh Hamilton was at sherlocks tonight!?!?! Ian kinsler is a tool for taking him there
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this won't end well
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
if true
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Hamilton was at Sherlocks Pub
Shame on them they know who he is.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
it's the bar's job to babysit hamilton?
why?
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Feb 2, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
Mainly because it's 2min from the park
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:14 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Knowledgeable fans should at least think it's odd.
But if I see him, I’m too nervous to say anything.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Feb 2, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
yep
when he would come into the chilis I worked at we had a strict rule not to offer him alcohol
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:13 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Right -- I had the same question: what if he asked for a beer?
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I don't know how we would have handled it. he never did
the time I waited on him, I would have told him no
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:16 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
That's reasonable and appropriate,
But I wouldn’t necessarily expect every server and bartender to know all of Josh’s story. Obviously, someone in Tempe that one time didn’t. It’s not the bar’s responsibility to keep Josh from relapsing.
no it is not
but I wasn’t going to contribute to it because I knew his story
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:18 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
All of that was basically just to say,
I don’t know enough to blame and shame whoever it was who didn’t refuse to serve him.
oh I tend to agree
just wish someone had told him no
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:22 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
We don't even know that someone didn't tell him "no."
We don’t know that he didn’t insist… or that someone else didn’t buy him a drink and convince him to drink it, in which case the waitstaff very easily could have had basically zero to do with it…
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I know
I just wish it had not happened
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:23 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
If Kinsler actually encouraged him,
or even just didn’t discourage him enough, that’d be bad.
I’m waiting to see what comes of that part of the story, though.
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probably some fucking Angels fan did it
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
This is dumb
A burden should never be something out of your control.
by benjihana on Feb 2, 2012 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How often was he at chili's?
Ish
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:30 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
it was in 08
he was there about once a month
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:33 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I don't see how you can do this
You probably served 15 other alcoholics that night and didn’t tell them no. If the man orders a drink who are you to tell him no?
yeah...no shit...thats fucking absurd
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Feb 2, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
because I didn't have to
someone can not make me serve them alcohol
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:32 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Under this line of thinking, how do you justify cutting someone off?
That happens all the time.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
the law grants you that right, actually responsibility...
it doesnt grant you the responsibility to play drinking police to a sober of age person
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Feb 2, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
where does it say you can't?
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:36 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
and I think restaurants have the right to refuse service
I could be wrong
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:39 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
As long as it's not a civil rights thing.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
that is what I thought
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"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:40 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
so, they'd get in trouble for singling hamilton out only if he was black?
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Feb 2, 2012 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
or a woman
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
It's just Billy being Billy.
They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin
by JimCrankshaft on Feb 3, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
It also doesn't take away the right to do it if you so choose.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I'm also seem to remember either an old Texas law, or a Florida law
where if you know for a fact that a person is an alcoholic, you are liable if you serve him.
And by alcoholic, I mean a multiple DUI or some other alcoholic run in with the law. Damn, I need to go look this up.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
I really am going to look this up. I've got to find it somewhere.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
When I took TABC classes back in the day
This was never mentioned.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Really?
They beat me over the head with that in the TABC classes that I took, seemed counterproductive to working in a bar.
I like pretty dark haired women and breakfast food. - Ron Swanson
by Axe Em Rangers on Feb 3, 2012 8:34 AM CST up reply actions
They beat me over the head in serving people who are intoxicated.
Nothing about people who were “known alcoholics”.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Also, my TABC class was 15 years ago.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I can't find it anywhere.
I actually taught the TABC class for two years for our area. I’m really beginning to think it was in Florida and it has since been repealed or struck down, but I know I heard of it.
I think it was used as an example of other states laws, but I know I heard of it. I can’t believe I can’t find anything on it.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
hard to pull off
the “we all out alcohol” bit. Reserved for seasoned professionals only.
luckily, we never had to enforce it
he always sat in the bar though
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"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:34 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Good for Chili's
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
yeck
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That doesn't mean anything.
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
I guess the Rangers have leverage now.
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by SoWasRed on Feb 2, 2012 9:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Fuck off
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:08 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I mean who does this shit.
Come on man.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:11 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
classy
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"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:10 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Shrug
Probably the second thing that popped into my head.
Second or third for me.
But you don’t say it.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I don't see how pretending it's not a concern
makes it any better. It is certainly a concern. We all know it’s a personal concern for him, first, but we have no control over that.
Pretending it’s not a concern or a thought is silly.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
yup.. nothing wrong with saying it at all
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well then fuck off
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by SoWasRed on Feb 2, 2012 9:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Coldplay, I'm defending you you retarded sack of shit.
by LiamP on Feb 2, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I know
I was being ironic
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by SoWasRed on Feb 2, 2012 9:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Strunk and White just rolled over
and the Grammar Nazis are on their way
Not here.
LSB killed the actual meaning of ironic a long time ago.
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The Internet and Hot Topic did...
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 2, 2012 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
You discredit Alanis.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Have I ever told you my friend's theory about that song?
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Are you saying Jim's not my friend?
HUH? ARE YOU?
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I'm saying my 'friend' has a theory that your 'friend's' theory is your own!
(Except this theory falls apart cause I’d totes want to claim that as my own theory.)
No. It'd be the very definition of Garoonic, though.
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Actually, I was here first.
Garoon came later. And he’s not dead… just resting.
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That fact that it's in public scares me the most
A sober Josh, before he walked in, would’ve had to have known people in the bar would start texting "Josh is here! " crap immediately.
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
I can't see how a sober Josh would think it's a good idea, either.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
Stuff like this annoys me
I’m guessing we will be inundated with a ton of stuff posted from unreliable sources. It’s a shame.
by Rangers Fan Mike on Feb 2, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Don't really know how unreliable a bunch of random Facebook posts from a prior date are.
Not something several data points would randomly create.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
I wish people would stop thinking about his contract for one night
This is serious life stuff, not guys running aorund a field with a ball.
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
When it comes down to how we're spending our time with this hobby, most of us are in it for the baseball...
but yeah, I do hope Josh Hamilton and his family end up okay.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 2, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously!
Why do I care about Josh’s family? Hell, I barely care about mine. J/K of course but I get it I should morally care about Josh and his family but in the grand scheme of things baseball is how I know Josh and as far as I care about him. Sorry. He’s a grown man, he’ll be alright.
We don't really know how serious this is.
It’s obviously somewhat serious.
But let’s be honest: this happens to thousands of people every day, and it doesn’t make front-page news on numerous websites when it does. Coming to LSB and expecting no thought or mention of his baseball situation seems… very idealistic.
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We also have no personal connection to him.
I’m not trying to be callous. I hope the best for him, but to pretend this is about a personal affection/love for a guy I don’t even know/interact with as a primary concern is disingenuous to me.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
I don't think anyone's asking you to pretend.
I tend to feel at least some small degree of sympathy for celebrities who are struggling with addiction in the way that Hamilton is. For me, that’s just human nature. But I’m probably a soft touch in that regard.
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I know y'all are trying to pretend this isn't a big deal
but this kind of behavior ruined his life once, and almost permanently. This is not a non-event, and pretending it isn’t is asinine and reeks of denial.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
Who is trying to pretend it isn't a big deal?
Why are you preaching at us?
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
blake and others who are instantly dismissing anything that could point to what happened
as insta-fake items
A burden should never be something out of your control.
PANIC!
LET’S PANIC! SOME LADY TOUCHED JOSH’S ASS! IAN KINSLER SET UP A BEER PONG TABLE AT SHERLOCK’S!
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 2, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
"Non-issue" and "OMG, WHYYYYYY" are not the only two options.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Well I wasn't saying the overblown reaction to the FB posts is merited
but we shouldn’t dismiss them either.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
I just don't know enough about it right now...
We know Josh Hamilton had a beer. Okay. That’s not good, obviously. But what does it really mean for him and the club? We don’t know.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 2, 2012 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
even if Josh was at Sherlocks with Ian
and eating and drinking a non-alcoholic cocktail, shit like this still has to have an effect on contract talks. What if this happened in Sept during a pennant chase? The team wouldn’t need a distraction like this.
Non alcoholic cocktail? Oxymoron.
Seriously though he’s allowed to eat places that serve alcohol. That’s not the problem.
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
May not be a Rangers fan but this kinda stuff can be serious especially for a guy with the past history of his obviously. Hopefully the issues that lead him to this point though may never be known will get delt with so he can get back on the right track.
This could hurt his future bargaining for a contract but that isn’t most important for him.
Isn't "relapses" a little strong?
I know this is bad, but isn’t that taking a giant leap based on the info out there?
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We don't know enough.
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
The DMN is reporting they have sources stating he consumed alcohol.
That would be a relapse for an alcoholic that has dedicated himself to being sober. It may not be a horrible thing, but I think it would technically be a relapse.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I figured you had to do a little more than have a beer or two.
Guess not.
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--iorange555 8/23/2011
Not when he's put himself out there as he has.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
No, not for a recovering alcoholic.
When you have an addiction, there no such thing as a little bit, there is you’re in or you’re out.
Nope.
When it’s a prior drug of choice, and one that the person in recovery himself has says he recognizes having no control over once he starts consuming it… that’s a relapse.
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For a guy that has had his problems in the past
I would think it’s harder to stop after you get started than it is to just not start at all.
So if it was one, it was probably more than that.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
The good news is...
The chances of us Jayson Werthing him just went down exponentially.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Fuck you too LSJ
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:21 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
KOK
You’re being a little out of control on the vicious banter towards those who are thinking of the baseball side of things…
A burden should never be something out of your control.
no kidding
it’s sad, but the only reason it’s even posted on here is because he’s a Ranger.
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It's kind of LSB's thing to fling vitriol at unpopular opinions.
(And yes, I am guilty of doing such things.)
i tell the truth; i lie a lot
Nobody pressed his keys except for him.
Well, at least, I assume so. It is the internet.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
Yeah
I’m going to leave on that
I feel strongly for both he and his family.
I think very little of people who look at like a good thing when an addict who relapses. In any situation.
Sorry for the f bombs guys. Just something I feel strongly about.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:25 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Fair enough, I suppose.
To clarify, I’m not “happy” that Josh has potentially relapsed in the sense that I’m actually celebrating an addict’s struggles. I just see that as his problem. And as somebody who’d rather not pay buttloads of money to watch my team have to deal with his problems, I don’t feel sorry for him at all if he just blew all his contract leverage.
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by LSJ on Feb 2, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Ok then
Call it what you want.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:33 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Why?
What’s wrong with stating the obvious?
And why should I care more about Josh Hamilton than the team?
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
by LSJ on Feb 2, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
See above.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:27 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
my mom was an alcoholic
she had a tough time quitting. Antibuse finally did it as long as she took it everyday. Alcoholism is a bitch.
Man you guys are freaking the fuck out
I am reading comments like he was found with a dead hooker and a needle in his arm.
Now THAT would be a relapse.
Reports of him being in a bar? Thats it? Chill out.
Saying prayers for his family? Are we serious?
Do you understand addiction?
Oh that’s right….you are SteelHome.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
"Holy God, I want to make out with that dong." - GhostofErikThompson (in response to a Nellie Cruz homer) 6/9/11
Not SteelHome
Yes I have a general grasp on what addiction is.
Seems like he did this once before and unless I am getting my dates wrong went on to win an MVP?
by PhilKidIsHero on Feb 2, 2012 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't think he's SteelHome
He’s still an idiot and has always been one, but not SH.
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by vfn on Feb 2, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
I get my idiots confused....my bad.
Carry on.
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It's SaltyGoesYard
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by LSJ on Feb 2, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
it is a pretty big deal
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
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by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:29 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
if it is true
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 9:29 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
the rangers aknowledged it
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
Really?
Because last time I remember there being a story..a press conference…an apology…and thats it.
Big deal?
by PhilKidIsHero on Feb 2, 2012 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
This news just broke.
How quickly do you think this stuff comes together?
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
When the Rangers win the World Series, there'll be a bunch of stories, a press conference,
a parade, a flag flying in a stadium, and that’s it.
Big deal?
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That WOULD be a big deal.
This…
Isn’t really a big deal.
by PhilKidIsHero on Feb 2, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
You have your priorities. Other people have theirs.
To most of the world, the Rangers winning the World Series is not a “big deal.”
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The last part seems really unnecessary
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
Yeah, the title of this post is rather misleading
Seems like it should say “POTENTIALLY relapses”, at most. And really, should probably just say something along the lines of “Josh Hamilton spotted in bar”.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
by LSJ on Feb 2, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
I had a friend who was an alcaholic
He never understood how I coiuld sit there and drink a couple of drinks slowly and take off. He would drink until he was buzzed out because it made him feel better. I understand that to a certain extent, but I’ve always been paranoid about hurting somebody when I’m drunk.
One day I heard he had a couple of glasses of champaign at a wedding reception. I was thinking, how could this happen because he drank for effect, not for taste. Optomistically I hoped he could handle moderation, but my guess is the likelyhood was about 10% that he was drinking in moderation and 90% or more that was just the beginning of a drinking binge.
In a certain sense, alcaholics are like people who are walking along the edge of a cliff. If you and I were near the edge of the cliff, we would have fear or at least a healthy respect of falling off the cliff. An alcaholic would be like somebody walking along the edge of the cliff, with no fear or respect of the danger. And still I feel this illustration is lacking. Hopefully Josh is away from his addictive substance and surrounded by those who love him.
This is not good.
Although his relapse in Surprise blew over, so this might too. Good luck, Josh and the Hamilton family.
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"Holy God, I want to make out with that dong." - GhostofErikThompson (in response to a Nellie Cruz homer) 6/9/11
Unfortunately what Josh needs is support right now
Hopefully the negative attention doesn’t keep him from getting it. I have faith in Wash to call him right away to get him back on track. Seems like the kind of guy he is.
The Rangers can't be surprised...
You are paying a multimillionaire to play a game where all his teammates drink lots of alcohol and asking him to never do so?
And, oh yea… He is a recovering addict.
I mean, I guess I am just not surprised.
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Troll?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:32 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
obvious troll is obvious
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
Come on, you know you love the frogs... At least baseball.
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Are you surprised? Like blown away by this?
It isn’t expected, but it certainly isn’t unexpected or surprising.
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Not expected is the definition of unexpected.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
by Aqua on Feb 2, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ya I don't know why I wrote it like that, long day I guess.
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Yes, I am surprised
As are many members of this board, if you were unable to tell or read.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:35 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
The fact that it happens doesn't make it not surprising when it does actually happen.
Especially from someone who has done so much to distance himself from anything related to this type of event.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
His Step-Dad signing up then quickly quitting made me worried
Hada gut feeling that there was more to the story.
From what I hear, just about every recovering alcoholic falls off the wagon some times. Most who fall have the advantage of being able to do it and not have it blogged about and on TV and radio. Not saying this is a small thing, but it’s not “missing for 10 days and you find him in Jail in Tiajauna” kind of thing either.
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
It's sad, on multiple levels.
And what AquaMAN said.
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Dude you're going straight up HF45 right now
Chill out.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
Now that is just ridiculous.
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Wasn't sure if it was or not
Not a name I’m used to seeing around. Was an honest question I thought?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:36 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I am not Patrick Burns.
And I don’t think it is ridiculous to say that we shouldn’t be surprised this happened, it has before and it might again.
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It's just that his post wasn't troll-ish
I am also not surprised that an addict relapsed (if that’s what happened). It happens all the time. Saddened by it, sure. Surprised? No.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
I thought you didn't care about it, on a personal level?
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Well... I certainly don't take pleasure from it.
So call it whatever you want. My response to you above was agreeing with your stance, anyway…
A burden should never be something out of your control.
As a Tigers fan, it gets really fun
When the press tells you that you need to release this player. That he’s a cancer and no good for the team. Then he comes back and has a monster season. Good thing we never listened to you Passan!
Following the Cabrera Career Arc, Hamilton should have himself a good year.
Hamilton has done this before...
We don’t care about Miguel Cabrera.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 2, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
ok...so at least youre admitting the only reason you give a shit about josh hamilton is because he plays for your team...
so, i assume the rest of this ‘pray for josh’s family’ shit is going to go away? if not, why does hamilton’s family deserve your prayers but cabrera’s does not?
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Feb 2, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
Who said I was praying for anyone's family?
Did you even read my posts in this thread?
I don’t wish for bad things for Miguel Cabrera, either. Except that he is hilarious as a third baseman.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 2, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think you'll have to wish to hard for that last one.
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Cabrera is not the only one who will need a stiff drink watching that circus.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
Agree that we don't care about Cabrera.
But Hamilton has done this before if the Arizona incident was considered a relapse which seems like more of a relapse then this. But even a sip for an addict is a relapse.
x
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions 13 recs
jay gormley w CBS 11
Employees at Sherlocks in N. Dallas confirm that Josh Hamilton and Ian Kinsler were at the pub in what appears to be a relapse for Hamilton.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:39 PM CST reply actions
N Dallas or Arlington?
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
ND
Addison.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
there is one over on 75... in richardson? ive never been to that one
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
If true...
I’m sad for Josh, but I’m pretty pissed at Ian.
If true.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Feb 2, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Just because Ian was there doesn't mean he had anything to do with it.
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
How do you figure?
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--iorange555 8/23/2011
Ian could have been trying to keep him from drinking.
Maybe Josh told ian to come help him because he had been drinking.
It could be a number of things. We don’t know Ian took Josh to the bar.
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
We don't know that Ian took him to the bar.
But if he was at the bar with Josh there’s a lot of explaining to do.
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
That's true.
But let’s not jump to conclusions just because it was rumoured Ian was there.
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
I'll jump on it.
WAR and your silly projection systems will NEVER be able to account of these kinds of intagibles.
Why wouldn't he?
I’d expect Ian to have some responsibility as a teammate, to NOT bring Josh to bars, or at least look out for him. He knows how important it is to Josh.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Feb 2, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
The fact that Ian was there doesn't make sense
So everybody thinks Ian was like “Ya bro fuck it lets get the whole front office and team pissed off at us and start a media shitstorm!”
by PhilKidIsHero on Feb 2, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
why doesn't it make sense?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Because Ian has been his teammate since he has come to Texas
Knows his whole story, is his personal friend.
Think he would just go knowing exactly what was going to happen?
by PhilKidIsHero on Feb 2, 2012 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
Hell if I know.
I would hope not.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
he went to mizzou....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vMfqosdDbY
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Feb 2, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
SHOTS FIRED
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
Also i know some of the people in this video
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
After saturday you will have to change that to "knew"
After Thomas Robinson steals their soul.
by PhilKidIsHero on Feb 2, 2012 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
This doesn't make sense.
I know that Kinsler couldn’t force Hamilton to not drink, but it seems like this situation could have been avoided.
Quick Lunch? Dinner?
“I want a drink, want to grab a Coke with me?”
Lots of possibilities, though I admit I’ve never been to Sherlocks, so maybe I just don’t get the place.
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possible... the sherlocks in addison is way less family friendly than the one in arlington
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
+ 1 on this
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:45 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I am assuming they stopped in for a meal.
I can’t imagine that they would stop there for any other reason considering Josh’s addiction and not needing to risk relapsing. I assume that Hamilton’s struggles with the desire to drink daily, so I am sure just being near alcohol makes resistance difficult. But he avoids relapsing until suddenly it occurs at a random time with a teammate that is aware of his situation. Just seems strange, going to have to wait until there is more info on this.
i tend to agree.... i know there are cell pics of this...
that sherlocks in Addison is crazy busy every night… im talking thousands in and out even on slow nights…
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Thousands?
Any more real estate tips too?
Oh IANF
A burden should never be something out of your control.
that place has to be one of the largest bars in dallas
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
That is always packed, even on week nights.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
Consequently millions?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
by Brad on Feb 2, 2012 9:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah.. hundreds definitely... but on any given night between 7-2
sherlocks in addison is one of the busier bars in dallas.. ill put it that way.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
I'm inclined to believe IANF on all things drinking.
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
not forthe drinking.. but i live 1/2 a mile away from that sherlocks and there
once a week… its a HUGE bar w tons of people in and out every night…
and you dont go to sherlocks just for dinner…
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
I've actually gone on a game day to the Arlington one just for dinner.
Since the food is sub par I’m not sure why but that’s a separate issue.
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
Confirms he was there.
Awesome. That clears up absolutely nothing.
i wouldnt even say confirm... all of this stuff is grey area
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
I betcha the real shitstorm is going to to wind up landing on Kinsler's head here.
Especially considering the respective popularity of each player among our own fanbase.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
by LSJ on Feb 2, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe..
Ian went with Hambone to look after him? Just trying to play devils advocate.
Reading that title made my heart sink a little...
Loved his story before he was with Texas and immediately became a favorite after the trade (like many others). If true, this is more than just a baseball issue or Rangers issue and I wish the best for him, if only so he can continue to be an inspiration to others in similar situations.
the employees at Sherlocks have confirmed Josh and In were there
but have they confirmed that he actually drank….. alcohol?
Adam Schefter just tweeted about it.....
yuck.
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I hate when NFL people tweet baseball opinions.
And visa versa.
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I had it when Adam Schefter tweets or says anything about anything.
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I haz a sad.
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I take after the most prolific lover of young Latino men.
Mr. Zebracakes himself.
Except when you need an XBH...
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by LSJ on Feb 2, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
So we can finally
get a good luck at Profar?
by Rangers Fan Mike on Feb 2, 2012 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
But then he won't be blocking Profar
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by LSJ on Feb 2, 2012 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
If he signs elsewhere, there will be another young Latino ready to fill the void.
Elvis won’t break my heart, he will just vacate it for someone else.
@Ian1033
Those rumors about another Ranger player being with Josh Hamilton I am told are 100% incorrect – nothing but rumor.
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
its all 100% rumor at this point....
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
Which is why I made my initial comment
About people freaking out.
Nobody knows anything yet people are acting like he was in a car wreck with cocaine all over his face.
by PhilKidIsHero on Feb 2, 2012 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
No one is even debating that Josh was at a bar
So, it’s still bad.
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
this is ian fitzimmons btw
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
Ah good deal
So this is pretty legit Ian…about Ian Kinsler that is?
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
I have no clue man
according to twitterverse yeah.. but i wouldnt put a grain of salt w any reports besides the initial one
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
and more...
@Ian1033 One Ranger told me quote " Any player would rather be dead than be caught having a beer w/ Josh much less having several w/ Josh in a bar."
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
Best news I've heard
in the last hour or so.
by Rangers Fan Mike on Feb 2, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
I would burn things if this were true.
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
I guess that's a relief?
Darkest silver lining imaginable.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Feb 2, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
Once again
Sorry for being a tool earlier in this thread…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:48 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Done with LL
Before I make them think even less of lsb
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:49 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I should have posted the
I am so pretty insanity wolf picture after that
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:51 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Just to change it up a bit
Ozzie Guillen
Miami let me be in miami lebron bosh d way bad ass mother cow a lot respect to thos players and the rest of the heat
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by Ryin A on Feb 2, 2012 9:49 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Lolwut
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:50 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I am going to start using "bad ass mother cow" in everyday conversation.
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by Snark on Feb 2, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Nice.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
speaking of ozie...
what is worse… ozzies twitter account.. or jose canseco begging for a spring training invite?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
The answer is always Canseco.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I like when Canseco macks on some broad via twitter.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
someone needs to do a FakeOzzieGuillen twitter handle....
and talk about real life events….gold.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
What is a bad ass mother cow?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I'm hoping that the board histrionics
are more dramatic than the actual “situation”
Comment from the DMN Fraley article
We all stumble. But how often, and how fast we get up is the point. Best of luck to Michael Young.
Wtf??
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by SoWasRed on Feb 2, 2012 9:54 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
EG;DR
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 2, 2012 9:54 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
It's a reader comment
"A lot of people may not know this, but I happen to be quite famous." - Sam "MayDay" Malone
EG posted that comment.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Perhaps Fraley called Josh the FOTF and somebody got confused.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
by LSJ on Feb 2, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe they're going to ask MY to play LF
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
Peter Gammons likes it.
But he also remembers when a young Brooks Hatley played left back in the old Maine prison league in 19 and 12.
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by Aqua on Feb 2, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
lOl
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I am told there are pictures Josh Hamilton at the bar. Just like two years ago – it will all come out in the wash. Stay tuned.
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this sucks... i like ian fitzimmons and tend to trust him..
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
at least the ladies
will be better lookin’ this time
hell yeah it will
deadspin.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
If you were at Sherlocks and Josh came in with a companion
and you noticed he was drinking a beer. No doubt case of him drinking. What would you do?
honestly... snap some cell pics.. then go talk to him.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
And then tweet about it or tell LSB.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
You would or I would?
Because I wouldn’t do either of those things.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 2, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
I might do both.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
"Guys, I think Josh Hamilton is getting sloshed at the Chilis down from the Apple store on Knox."
“Get over here.”
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Is there an Apple store on Knox now?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
It's been there for years.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Huh.
I lived just south of it at Cole and Fitzhugh about ten years ago. Wasn’t one back then… don’t get down to Uptown that often anymore.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
They just spent several months rebuilding it for whatever reason.
It wasn’t there 10 years ago.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
It's so crowded ... that nobody goes there?
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
And, they give you cash...which is just as good as money
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
As a reporter, I would probably take pics, tweet and then skew the story.
Seriously, though, i would probably do nothing.
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
100% serious
I’d go upto him and ask him if he needed help. If he said no, I’d go outside, call the Rangers phone number on the website and just start blabbing to anyone who would listen.
Bullshit, white knight.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I'm totally serious
I’d do it for anyone I knew had that kind of problem.
he gots Bob Simpson on speed dial.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Seriously though
I’m glad your post made us both laugh.
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
972-RANGERS actually.
That is the number to the box office.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I actually knew that but can you imagine the random box office guy getting that phone call?
“I’m sorry to hear that sir but we have lots of economical 10 game packs”.
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
Opening Day Free!
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
And snow monkeys for all no matter your age!!!
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
That really doesn't seem like it would be your place.
And I don’t believe you.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
You would feel like butting into the affairs of a dude you don't actually know outside of the baseball diamond and the media?
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
He's admitted publicly to needing help battling his addiction.
A large part of me would definitely want to at least try to do something. What ‘something’ is might vary, but I would definitely want to.
I think everyone would want to do something
if there with family I wouldn’t do anything. If there with 3-4 other Ranger fans then maybe we talk ourselves into saying something to him.
It's not like
I’m saying I’d drag his ass out of the bar or something completely ridiculous. Maybe I’d try and talk to his friend, or whatever. I dunno. Feels awkward doing nothing, just as it feels awkward doing something.
My guess
Is that is at 6’4" 240 lb professional athlete would give you a look that suggested not telling him what to do.
But I do understand why you’d want to. I would for a friend… but not for a public figure I’ve never met. Crosses a line IMO.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
To an extent I agree
I guess I just feel like the line is very fuzzy when the athlete makes his issues being sober very public, and actively talks about the problems he has.
I totally understand but you're too late at that point and we all get more star struck than we think we will.
If he’s drinking at the bar already then he doesn’t care what Joe Blow Public thinks. Plus I just think it’d be harder than you think to go up to him and not be overwhelmed with the whole situation.
by elchicodelgado on Feb 2, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
Despite your good intentions...
I can just about guarantee you all you’d wind up doing is agitating him and probably making the situation worse.
Probably the best-case scenario is you wind up calling attention to him and embarrassing him out of the bar, but that probably does nothing but make his day and his mental state worse.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
That's definitely possible
I’m not sure which scenario I think is better. Him staying in the bar, or him leaving. Pretty close IMO.
probably nothing
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 10:02 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
text my friends
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
me?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I'd go hide
all the whipped cream in the bar.
by Rangers Fan Mike on Feb 2, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
I'd pay the bartender 20 bucks for a bottle of whip cream, offer it to Josh with a knowing glance
and take it from there.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
snap a pic
and sell it to deadspin
I'd probably say something to him.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
dial 4111 and see if the Ranger offices have someone on call
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
If there are pics then he was shit tossed hammered.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
CBS 11
Is saying it was at Park Lane Sherlocks with Ian.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 10:02 PM CST reply actions
thats over off 75 right? ive never been to that location...
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
Pretty chill. Not usually as packed as Addison, but more crowded than the ARL locale.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
Addison loses.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
That's the one I thought we were talking about the entire time.
That place is dead on weekdays a lot of the time.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
i thought north dallas would be the one on corner of dallas north tollway and beltline...
i guess this one is on 75 and park.. never been there.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
is it richardson or plano? (not that it matters)
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
It's in Dallas.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
HERBIE!
That’s what I thought — so I’m going to blame Jamey.
(Just kidding, Jamey.)
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What are you up to, these days?
Sorry to read about the job thing.
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still got it for you
I actually was trying to remember who I said I’d give it to as I was packing up my apt over the weekend
I'll grab her for you.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Herbie is worth more
than a bobblehead.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
You should become a LSB regular now, Herb...
ONE OF US! ONE OF US! GOOBLE-GOBBLE! GOOBLE-GOBBLE!
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 2, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
yeah ill be around a lot more now
I want to change my name/get a new account though. I need suggestions
herbies bone coaster
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
Unky Herb
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
ghostofHerbiePallotta
Que sera, sera.
by scoop16 on Feb 2, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions 10 recs
GivesTnTSloppySeconds
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
BonedIANFsSister
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
by Schultzy on Feb 2, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
IANF's Brother-in-Law
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
by Aqua on Feb 2, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Gay for IANF's sister
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Josey WaIes (capital "I")
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
yuengling
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
Why do you know of Yuengling and its wonders?
Did Herbie bring you some?
WHERE IS MINE
A burden should never be something out of your control.
My feelings about Yuengling aren't strong enough to be "hate."
I’m just bewildered by why so many people sing its praises.
It’s “meh” beer.
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I drank cheap beer once.
Nostalgia these days
A burden should never be something out of your control.
Yes.
And it’s not even that cheap — there are better local beers in the price range.
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lived in B'more awhile, drank some Yuengling, and ...
taste-wise it’s a mediocre watery domestic lager … regionally it has mad sentimental appeal, like Natty Boh, and can be a cheap slammer at some bars
"Honor your Scholly" -- Maximillian, Jan. 31 2012
Natty Boh is cheaper, hipster-er, and not much worse.
Yuengling can’t even get being a hipster beer right.
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Just make sure it has lots of numbers at the end.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
by LSJ on Feb 2, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
allottaherbie
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
ha
"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker
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wholelottapallotta
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
by jam0152 on Feb 2, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
it was meant as a reply to him
he gets a creative credit
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
TheLoveBug
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I laughed.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Peaches and Heb
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
Peaches and Herb
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
Yes!
It happens every day of my life!
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
That's the one where Newberg holds events sometimes?
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i think thats the arlington one...
http://www.sherlockspubco.com/
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
Newberg report is at the Arlington
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
he has them at both.. this year's book signing was in Arlington
last year’s was at the one at the Dallas one
Maybe the relapse is that juicy baseball rumor that one guy said he had.
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
inorite? that guy who said he had the inside scoop on the thing?
"Honor your Scholly" -- Maximillian, Jan. 31 2012
Kevin Goldstein?
I’m guessing this is not what he meant.
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oh, I was totally bullshitting as usual
didn’t know there was any reality connection
"Honor your Scholly" -- Maximillian, Jan. 31 2012
Goldstein tweeted a few days ago that he was glad he didn't report the rumor
Because it turned out to be false.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Ahh.
Well I was waiting for something big to happen, so I was thinking that this might be it.
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
Also fuck you NBC
no one cares about a Patriots guard who beat cancer.
And know Newy your fat ass didn’t know his name until this week.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 10:08 PM CST reply actions
For the record...
I went to high school in Odessa with that guy (Marcus Cannon). It’s a pretty cool story.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
Was about to say, he's a Texas kid and he went to TCU.
I’m pretty sure a few people care.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
And when someone called Newy to tell him his name
And then Newy ate his phone.
by Rangers Fan Mike on Feb 2, 2012 10:12 PM CST reply actions
I'm hoping
Kins went to the bar to get hambone because Ian is my absolute favorite rangers player i don’t know what to believe, Ian1033 says no one else was w/ hambone sherlocks employees say he was with josh i tend to believe the workers but if you try to blame Ian for josh drinking…because unless Ian held a gun th Josh’s head and told him to drink, I just don’t know
It would suck if Ian was there
I’d still like him just the same because I like him for what he does on the field, but it would suck if Ian was more directly responsible for Hamilton having a drink.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
it doesn't sound very nice but maybe hambone needs to pal around with murph
because if i am beltre, andrus, young or kinsler or napoli and want to go to a bar and have a drink after a game or whatever i don’t wat have to worry about hambone being around and not being able to enjoy myself he is kind of a buzzkill… ducks
No, Baylor folk don't drank.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Both Aqua and GB get their drink on.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Are you kidding?
Murphy turns wine into water…and then he walks on it.
by Rangers Fan Mike on Feb 2, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
Wasn't Murphy one of the guys who Hamilton was out with when he relapsed the first time?
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
I thought Hamilton slipped off alone that time.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
For somet reason I want to say he went out with Murphy, Nippert and someone else
that night and then he slipped off later that night alone.
Or something.
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
is this the church thing?
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 10:19 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
So I left it on NBC
And they are talking about a guy who posed as a student and stole a credit card out of an office building complex…
The complex…West Coast University on Stemmons…
So the Rangers are in the West
The Cowboys are in the East
The Mavs are in the Southwest
The Stars are in the Pacific
And now home to West Coast University….
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 10:18 PM CST reply actions
Pulling for Josh. Daily struggle.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
which one of you lsbers is @kennybybee?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 10:22 PM CST reply actions
saw that....
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
upate from fraley
According to individuals familiar with the episode, Hamilton drank alcohol Monday night at Sherlock’s Pub & Grill in Dallas. Teammate Ian Kinsler also showed up at the bar for what appeared to be an attempt to persuade Hamilton to return to his home in Westlake.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 10:25 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
That's what I suspected.
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
Hell to the yes.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
The fact that Ian
persuaded him to leave, not that Josh was boozing
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck yes, Ian.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
Now that makes a lot more sense re: Ian.
Whew.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
Way to be Ian
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
This makes more sense.
Sadly, it also suggests that this was not just one beer…
Ugh.
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Can we talk about Ian's contract situation?
by ab03 on Feb 2, 2012 10:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No. There will be NO BASEBALL DISCUSSED IN THIS THREAD WHATSOEVER.
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i do wonder what exactly happened now
who called Ian? Did Josh do it himself? Did the bar manager? If they did call Josh, and had the sense to do so…why give him alcohol in the 1st place?
Wouldn't surprise me if it was the bar....
He showed up late to his Fanfest signing time on Saturday Morning. He was obviously hungover.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Drank Monday and was hungover on Saturday?
Wow that must be a doozy.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 2, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Or was it his wife that needed help and thought ian could help and called him to see if he could go talk to him.
Any number of situations but it does make you wonder I suppose though only way we are likely to ever know is if later he says what happened probably.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 2, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I wonder if Josh's wife and Tess are close
Josh’s wife tells Tess and Tess tells Ian to go get him
yea no idea what relations are like between his family and players or anything.
I just think about alcoholics Ive known and them being in a bar and the wife calling someone to ask if you could go try and help get there husband to come home.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 2, 2012 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
Ian is a good dude
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 2, 2012 10:32 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
If the pub was located to his right, then that would explain it, right?
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by Snark on Feb 2, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 12 recs
i rec'd this....
given the situation…I feel bad for it…
Just couldn’t help myself.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Sleeping.
Everything about people is the worst. - Jeff Sullivan
by LSJ on Feb 2, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Probably at home with his wife and kids.
But I would wager significant sums of money that if Young knew Hamilton was at a bar drinking he would go do what Ian did.
I bet almost everyone in that clubhouse would.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Must resist MY defense joke.
We did a version of this (Summer Nights) in Cub Scouts with new words to talk about how awesome scouting was. Half of us were dressed up as girls
colonialbob
Because, you know... if the pub was to his right... he'd never reach it in time...
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Tangent:
Sometimes 4 degrees here are punished by taking away their privilege to do left facing movements. You have to 3 right-faces instead. We call it getting Zoolandered.
I think Young lives here year round.
But I’m not 100%.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
colleyville i believe
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Nope they both live in Highland Park
off Beverly Drive.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Check out DCad
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
Highland Park in Dallas, right?
So, “here”?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Very close to Park and 75
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
What a shitty bar that one is.
I thought it was Campbell?
A burden should never be something out of your control.
They live near southwestern drive in university park
Their neighbors put “Proud of our Rangers” signs in their front yards during the playoffs.
not to be confused with southern drive where River Fenix lives
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
Michael's.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 2, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
westlake isnt even cloe to 75 and park is it?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 2, 2012 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
I am sure he is 100% wrong about this, right?
Kevin Goldstein @Kevin_Goldstein Close
If you think it’s funny that Josh Hamilton relapsed, you’re an ass. If you are shocked, or even surprised by the news, you are naive.
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Nah, he used "shocked" and "surprised" and "naîve" correctly.
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by Snark on Feb 2, 2012 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
haha ok I laughed.
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+1
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Feb 3, 2012 8:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well that sucked.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
DAMN FAKE BOOBS RUIN EVERYTHING
After his spectacular fall off the wagon in January 2009 that included pictures of him licking whipped cream off a woman’s fake breasts,
They fuck a man's head up
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Why is Alcoholism Black Passan???
Sobriety is black and white. Black won Monday.
Racist
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 3, 2012 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
lol we hardly have any details and he’s already writing a long column about this.
by tomahawklove on Feb 3, 2012 12:35 AM CST up reply actions
this is also the same guy
that said the Angels had fired a warning shot when Ervin Santana threw his no-hitter.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 3, 2012 12:41 AM CST up reply actions
Passan broke that we won Darvish.
He’s gravy now.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
A few thoughts:
(1) That was quick.
(2) There’s an awful lot of psychological speculation going on in that article.
(3) Jeff Passan is a professional writer, and so he really needs to learn what “begs the question” means.
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Old Hoss and Passan are going at it right now on twitter.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
These are the sorts of things that:
(a) make me want to join Twitter
(b) make me never, ever want to join Twitter
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i know that feeling
I don’t think I could ever use it to be serious. At least on LSB I can occasionally whip up a multi-paragraph post with analysis and shit.
I also don't agree at all with Kevin Goldstein about his Tweet about the article,
other than the fact about not agreeing at all.
That wasn’t a “fantastic read.” In addition to its other flaws, the piece was poorly written, in fact. I’m surprised Kevin would give Passan the compliment — he’s usually able to spot the difference.
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Join Twitter.
You pick who you follow.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 3, 2012 12:58 AM CST up reply actions
It's not whom I follow that'd be the issue, for me.
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For example, right now,
I’d be using Twitter to tell Jeff Passan to learn what “beg the question” means.
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Apple not far from the tree.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Your first tweet can be a 140 character run down on how to use 'Begs the question'
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 3, 2012 1:04 AM CST up reply actions
There's a lot of all sorts of speculation going on in that article...
It’s like Passan saw that Tweet about someone grabbing Hamilton’s butt and rushed to be the first person to write this article that we’re going to see dozens of times over the next couple of days.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 3, 2012 12:55 AM CST up reply actions
It was pretty rife with overreaction.
Particularly negative.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
What other forms of speculation are going on?
I mean, other than the psychologizing, there’s this:
That long-term contract Hamilton wanted from the Rangers? Gone. It has to be. Already the Rangers had shown little inclination to lock up long-term a player who two years ago won the American League MVP award despite missing the final month. Texas, like most other clubs, fears Hamilton’s body, brittle from his years of drug abuse, won’t hold up. Whatever leverage Hamilton held is kaput, and only the madness of free agency will land him a payday.
Which is obviously speculative, but is not exactly a reach.
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I mean, I don't know about that "brittle from his years of drug abuse" line,
but that just takes us in a different, much-trodden direction.
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"much-trodden"
grammatically correct. archaic. sounds weird. #donotwant.
This from a guy who misused "inveigling" the other day.
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Probably. I wrote it a couple different ways
not to my satisfaction but I liked the sound of it in the end. I’ll (mis)use it if it sound sweet to the ear.
AND I LIKE THE WORD TRODDEN. SO THERE, HUMPTY DUMPTY.
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.
‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’
‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’
‘The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.’
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. ’They’ve a temper, some of them — particularly verbs: they’re the proudest — adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs — however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That’s what I say!’
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(This is one of my favorite lines in children's literature, ever.)
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Though i might resemble those remarks,
both good and bad, LC is the best experience I never had.
I should probably take care of that.
I'd say so.
“Through the Looking Glass” is definitely worth a read, and “The Hunting of the Snark” is another, likely obvious, favorite:
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(I've always thought that in real life, Cahill
should resemble the Baker’s uncle.)
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Lewis Caroll
and creepy pedophilia, I could never get into him.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
T.S. Eliot: anti-Semite.
The poetry’s still great.
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Ugh.
T.S. Eliot sucks.
All poetry sucks.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I'd like to invent a time machine...
so I can travel back to the first person who thought of rhyming things to help him remember a long story, read him some modern poetry, and kick him in the balls in sympathetic meter until he gave up and invented stoic prose.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Solzhenitsyn wrote poetry.
And was also not a big fan of Jews.
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I assumed he meant
the getting kicked in the nuts part was what worked for Solzhenyitsyn.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
It's marvelous
the quote above; no degree required
Oh, it gets better!
Matthew Trueblood, “Recent graduate, BA in journalism, Loyola Univ.-Chicago. Husband to Maria Trueblood, FATHER, future sportswriter,” has decided:
Jeff’s description fits what I know of the psychology and mentality of addiction very well, FWIW.
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See, if I were on Twitter now,
how would I stop myself from Tweeting, “Well, Matt, it’s not worth very much — but thanks.”
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Yahoo! with a pretty dumb headline from their sports page..
Hamilton falls off wagon
Josh Hamilton’s latest public relapse showed an addict who just didn’t care.
They're teasing Passan's article, right?
I wonder if he’ll be as upset at his headline writer as he is the guy on Twitter who’s taking him to task for trying to capture Hamilton’s psychological state.
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To wit:
I really can’t wait to read what some sportswriter thinks is going on in Josh Hamilton’s head, because that’s always foolproof.
let us frame the complicated world inside somebody else’s head in terms of binary decisions
[on Passan’s piece]: couldn’t make it past the 2nd graf, and I tried twice. Good grief.
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To his credit, Jeff Passan has a sense of humor.
I sent him a question via the link on his website page, and he answered it promptly.
The question was something along the lines of, “How long does it take a professional writer to learn how to use ‘beg the question’ correctly?”
His retort:
about 15 years into one’s career. I’m only 10 years in. Damn.
(And I’d fix it, but, well, that’d be cheating, wouldn’t it?)
My reply:
Just as there’s no crying in baseball, Jeff, there’s no cheating in online baseball writing — change it now, and nobody will be the wiser other than you and me (and Lone Star Ball’s late-night readers, and whoever else happens to catch it before emendation). And think about the good example you’d be setting for the kids who read the piece over their Frosted Flakes tomorrow morning…
More broadly, I have to say I’m in the camp manned by Ol’ Hoss and Jay Jaffe at the moment. I understand what you were trying to communicate, but the psychological speculation in the piece was overpowering. I say that less as a last-word critique than as a hope that you might revisit the situation with the critique in mind… there are more words that could be written on this, and it’d be fascinating to see what interviews with specialists on addiction (and, for that matter, people in recovery themselves) might have to say about the subject. I know you could do that piece justice.
Cheers,
JG
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at least he handled it well
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 3, 2012 2:04 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Now, this I find encouraging:
From his Twitter account:
Full disclosure: I’m updating column to suss out the point @OldHossRadbourn and I discussed earlier. Haven’t changed wording in the lead but want to make sure for the majority of those who read in the morning, my feelings on the subject are clearer. Do not want greater point lost.
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Passan is a good one
I’m not worried about him.
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He wrote a very nice response via email, too.
And I’ve tried to reply in like fashion. I’ve come away from this with a lot of respect for Passan as a writer — all too rare, unfortunately, and all the more welcome for that.
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He's really good at responding to everything, criticisms included
He keeps the ego in check.
by dolphinpuncher on Feb 3, 2012 2:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
We're having a great exchange.
We don’t necessarily agree on everything, but it’s been a really solid back-and-forth. Again, I’ve gained a ton of respect for him as a result…
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I have a lot of respect for Passan.
This exchange has not changed that.
that is cool
Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw
"man..I know I don’t go for dongs, but that one is so outstanding that I’m going to offer it an exception"- Loblaw
by Chrom on Feb 3, 2012 2:26 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Is it just me....
or is anybody else hoping that the Drug and Alcohol Detox Ad at the bottom of this story has been on this site for more than just one night?
Pretty shitty selling out like that if it appeared overnight.
Errbody needs to chill out.
This day is slightly marred by the fact that John Rhadigan sucks a flaming bag of shit. - LiamP
Agreed. I'm not going to pass any judgement until all the details come out.
Josh is an adult man who made some costly mistakes in the past. I know some recovered alcoholics, who can go out and have a few beers or god forbid get drunk and not have it ruin their lives like it had before. Now Josh obviously had a major lack of judgement because publicly doing anything like this was going to blow up in his face.
Josh
My prayers and concerns are with Josh and his family, nobody needs to be judging him now , just hope for the best for him and his family. Also having been on both sides of what Ian done, trying to get him to leave, well that is not an easy thing to accomplish, so more power to him.
:(
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 3, 2012 8:35 AM CST via mobile reply actions
WoW, does anybody have business of their own these days?
Poor guy, can’t even go to a bar without douche bags having a personal opinion. Take a body shot for me buddy, Top Shelf, Lord knows you got the money. The rest of y’all need to stop hating on him and start playing get like him. All of you have serious dispositions anyways. Let he who is without sin, take the first shot.
You were drunk when you typed this, weren't you?
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