Wednesday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 22, 2012 7:57 AM CST
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PrintAre you ready for some baseball? Pitchers and catchers report today, with the first workout coming tomorrow...
Evan Grant writes that the Ranger rotation has a lot of upside, but a lot of risk as well, due to the lack of experience of the rotation members.
T.R. Sullivan has a story on the Rangers starting spring training.
Ron Washington watched Yu Darvish throw a bullpen session yesterday, and he liked what he saw.
Jeff Wilson has a story on the arrival of Darvish at spring training.
Mike Adams threw off the mound yesterday, and was happy with the results.
Mike Napoli says his ankle, which he sprained in Game Six of the World Series, is still just at 80%, but he expects it to improve during spring training.
Richard Durrett runs through six items of note from yesterday at camp.
Drew Davison's notes talk about the addition of Kelvin de la Cruz and runs down the various injuries.
Anthony Andro's notes include quotes from Jon Daniels about Koji Uehara, Mike Napoli and Mitch Moreland taking batting practice, and the de la Cruz trade.
T.R. Sullivan's notes include stuff on Uehara, Colby Lewis and his contract, Wilmer Font, de la Cruz, and a minor league minicamp.
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Bitter Sweet Day
I want to be excited for today, but I still feel like I’m shell shocked from Game 6.
Same here
I was hoping that the words “pitchers and catchers report today” would wash all the pain of game 6 away. It’s still there. And now also Naps ankle is still bad from game 6. What a nigtmare
"When I came off the mound the hairs were standing up on my arm. I know there's not much"
/Holland.
No joke....80% after 3 1/2 months?
The bad part about those ankles is they can just linger, too…I hope he’s right that he will be 100% by opening day….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
"And when Josh leaves, The Window closes." JW 2-9-12
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 22, 2012 8:10 AM CST up reply actions
On the bright side, it might wind up getting us a discount this winter
There's a fire in the city of pictures
Leaving nothing but ashes below
what is this?
you’re kidding, right?
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Feb 22, 2012 8:30 AM CST up reply actions
One could actually argue that one year of decreased production that results in us getting us more years of better production at a lower price is a net gain
But no, I’m not being serious.
I’m being anti-me.
It’s cute that you guys thought I was being serious, though.
There's a fire in the city of pictures
Leaving nothing but ashes below
one could argue that a bad ass napoli in 2012,
and getting a draft pick for him is a net gain
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Feb 22, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
He needs one of those platelet (sp) shots.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Feb 22, 2012 8:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
No s#@t
May see him DH and platoon 1st a lot, at least early.
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
The longer this goes on, the less I think they are trading Uehara...
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
"And when Josh leaves, The Window closes." JW 2-9-12
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 22, 2012 8:09 AM CST reply actions
Just waiting for a ST injury or ineffectiveness to build his trade value.
Everybody needs somebody to love... I need Yu, Yu, Yu! I need Yu, Yu, Yu!
I hope I haven't offended the Blues Brothers with this.
good
he’s a good pitcher and I’d rather have him on the staff than traded for less than value.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Yep
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
yup
Koji trade talk drives me insaneee
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when does a pitcher become "experienced" or a "veteran"?
We know where Colbly and Feliz stand on the experienced scale. And Darvish is really an exception. But what about Holland and Harrison? Derek has 63 starts and over 393IP in the MLs. He is coming off a season of 32 starts and 198 IP. Harry’s numbers are similar to Hollands: 62 starts and 411 IP. He had 30 starts and 185.2 IP last year.
Why the angst over the lack of experience in the roto?
I was thinking the same thing...
It’s not like there are 4 rookies in the rotation….I would say they are all veterans especially considering what they have all done over the last two seasons…and post seasons, for that matter…
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
"And when Josh leaves, The Window closes." JW 2-9-12
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 22, 2012 8:25 AM CST up reply actions
blog chumming
consistency (and health) will be the critical issue this yea for everyone not veteranness
Veteranness is to some extent a euphamism for consistency.
At least it has the connotation of expected performance/behavior.
Anyway, on the point of veteranness, Holland is an interesting “veteran” in that his personality may never lend itself to the characteristic steady, determined affect of a “veteran”, like CJ had. He may become consistent, but may always thought of as goofball rather than a “veteran”.
Everybody needs somebody to love... I need Yu, Yu, Yu! I need Yu, Yu, Yu!
I hope I haven't offended the Blues Brothers with this.
league is full of inconsistent vets
Colby Lewis was one last year
whatever the case, EG is blog chumming, and the idea of veteranness interests me not
Yeah
Last year I could see the concern because both Holland and Harrison not only had little ML experience to begin with but very little success also.
But after last year while I think you can still worry about a drop in performance I dont think you can be worried about experience with either of those two
he he he he
•The Yankees don’t expect Alex Rodriguez to be a vital part of their team four or five years from now, but there’s $143MM remaining on his contract, so the team needs to get as much value as possible from A-Rod.
he's under contract through 2017
so are they talking about the final year or two? That seems like a no-brainer. If we are talking value, the Yankees haven’t gotten value from that contract the past few years when they were paying him $30M+, and he was just an average player. He makes $29M this year.
Ha, doesn’t he feel the pressure of this contract? Where is his juice? You know he doesn’t operate well if he doesn’t have his juice in the morning! It goes so nicely with a big slam breakfast.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Make him the bullpen catcher on days he is not in the lineup
"When I came off the mound the hairs were standing up on my arm. I know there's not much"
/Holland.
Or the batboy
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 22, 2012 9:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
x
Derek Holland has a dune buggy.
Of course he does,
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 22, 2012 8:29 AM CST via mobile reply actions
And....
….baseball….YAY!
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 22, 2012 8:31 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
of course he does
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Feb 22, 2012 8:32 AM CST up reply actions
Heh
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 22, 2012 8:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
That was my immediate thought as well.
I’m glad to see it looks well-worn rather than tricked-out.
Everybody needs somebody to love... I need Yu, Yu, Yu! I need Yu, Yu, Yu!
I hope I haven't offended the Blues Brothers with this.
Of course he does
"When I came off the mound the hairs were standing up on my arm. I know there's not much"
/Holland.
Of course he does.
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
by TheDutchOven on Feb 22, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
I like the relentless attention to command that Yu apparently has.
Holland said Darvish kept apologizing when a pitch — even off flat ground — didn’t hit its desired location.
Everybody needs somebody to love... I need Yu, Yu, Yu! I need Yu, Yu, Yu!
I hope I haven't offended the Blues Brothers with this.
April 8th..... Just get here already
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 22, 2012 8:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
That reminds me. I need to pop Major League into the VCR before ST really kicks in.
Everybody needs somebody to love... I need Yu, Yu, Yu! I need Yu, Yu, Yu!
I hope I haven't offended the Blues Brothers with this.
by rooster on Feb 22, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm a multi-generation media user.
flip pads, VCR, DVD, downloaded, streaming
Everybody needs somebody to love... I need Yu, Yu, Yu! I need Yu, Yu, Yu!
I hope I haven't offended the Blues Brothers with this.
Never did that. Skipped to DVD.
Everybody needs somebody to love... I need Yu, Yu, Yu! I need Yu, Yu, Yu!
I hope I haven't offended the Blues Brothers with this.
Also, skipped Blue Ray to get to downloaded/streaming.
Everybody needs somebody to love... I need Yu, Yu, Yu! I need Yu, Yu, Yu!
I hope I haven't offended the Blues Brothers with this.
It's Blu Ray
/Mike E
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
by TheDutchOven on Feb 22, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
Hopefully you won't have to rewind it
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 22, 2012 9:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
ha
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Same here
ML and ML2 are a definite must watch before ST starts
Dallas Stars Examiner
used to be under name hinduplaya
Hope you are right
“Matsuzaka got lots of outs his first year on swings on balls out of the strike zone,” Washington said. “The next year, guys just stopped swinging at that. Hitters adjusted quickly. Darvish can power the baseball by people I think. He’s got more weapons to make hitters have to work harder to adjust. A lot of the Japanese pitchers who have come over have relied on deception. He might be different.”
by ab03 on Feb 22, 2012 8:51 AM CST via mobile reply actions
This is what is maddeneing
The dude throws 93ish. He has half a foot and 30 lbs on Dice K. They are literally nothing alike. How retarded do you have to be to explain why Darvish and Dice K aren’t marching hand-in-hand?
by OJsApprentice on Feb 22, 2012 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
you are absolutely correct
BUT JAPANESE !
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Yup
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 22, 2012 9:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's Iranic
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
by t ball on Feb 22, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He's much different than the other Japanese pitchers
He’s taller, throws harder, and put up much, much better numbers than the other pitchers from Japan. Dice K was good in Japan. Yu was lights out.
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 22, 2012 9:14 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Lights out would actually be an understatement
Halladay in MLB is lights out. Darvish in NPB was god-like. It’s like every single one of his last 5 season or so in Japan were NPB equivalents of Pedro’s 99 and 00 season.
by RangersfaninROK on Feb 22, 2012 5:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tony Fernandez? Weird role...
The Rangers have hired former Toronto All-Star Shortstop Tony Fernandez as a special assistant to GM Jon Daniels. Fernandez will be in uniform during Spring Training.
iirc
fernandez is HUGE in the DR.
maybe he is going to be working with the young latin shortstops?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 22, 2012 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
clarification
“….He’ll be able to help our players in a number of ways.” So maybe a Gregg Maddux type role during ST, roaming minor league assistant during the year…?
i would be 100% ok with that
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 22, 2012 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
Given his background as ordained minister, maybe a fill-in accountability partner should Kelley not be able to make
a trip or two.
Also, on the field, love the idea of Fernandez working with Profar, Leury, Sardinas, etc.
And… I can’t believe that 1993 Blue Jays pennant was so long ago. It’s very vivid in my mind.
Everybody needs somebody to love... I need Yu, Yu, Yu! I need Yu, Yu, Yu!
I hope I haven't offended the Blues Brothers with this.
That is strange.
Mentor for our young Latin players?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Makes sense. Also, perhaps along the lines of beefing up or refining talent evaluation in Latin America with the new spending constraints.
Everybody needs somebody to love... I need Yu, Yu, Yu! I need Yu, Yu, Yu!
I hope I haven't offended the Blues Brothers with this.
If he is as huge as KoK says down there, it could also be a way to influence player agents.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
this may be the first kind of move like that with the rangers
i am sure teams are going to be attempting to do everything they can to get players attention down there and to sign with them for less than others are offering (like with what happened with Ynoa and others)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 22, 2012 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
i would have no problem with the rangers bringing in 'special assistants" in
to help work with those guys and to help out in the DR with guys you are trying to sign.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 22, 2012 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
This is no different
than when Parcells brought in former players at almost every position to help coach during training camp.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 22, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
T Fer
I remember projections of his career for Joaquin Arias.
I really held out hope for him, it was just so obvious how unfair the hate that guy got from fans.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 22, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Even if Holland is driving?
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
He won't be texting while driving
That’s fo sho
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 22, 2012 10:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Is that even really a dune buggy?
Go big or go home!! Bet big to win big!!
by Steamin' Beamin' on Feb 22, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Not really what I would consider a dune buggy.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Sprained ankles can suuuck
I actually sprained mine playing hoops the very morning of Napoli spraining his. It was a wicked one and is still giving me problems. Though I’d say I’m 90%.
The problem with Naps and me, is that you’ve got to do nothing but sit on your ass for 3 full days. If not, it’ll go from a 6 weeks to 3 months. He kept playing and I went to a concert and tailgated/Game 6.
I sprained my ankle over the summer
and it still gets stiff every once and a while. Of course, I’m sure Napoli has had better treatment than I have.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
So what you are saying is...
Napoli gets stiff and then needs treatment. Is that about right?
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
I sprained mine before
was better in a couple days.
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well, better is a relative term
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Everybody loves dune buggies!
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by hornedfrogs45 on Feb 22, 2012 10:29 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
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