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I wish they weren't doing this
Not mediocre. Right about average
I bet he wanted to
Hamilton’s image is important to him. He does not lead a very private life. Even beyond being an athlete, he has put his recovery in a very public spotlight.
someone mind handling
transcript/conveying-the-gist duties for those of us who can’t watch/listen?
Gracias.
He'll probably open with this:
So what we get drunk?
So what we smoke weed?
We’re just having fun
We don’t care who sees
So what we go out?
That’s how its supposed to be
Living young and wild and free
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
would it be tacky
to make this a drinking game ? like a shot for every mention of faith or god ?
keep on rockin' in the free world !
narration
I can’t get the streaming, if anyone wants to summarize / narrate it’d be beautiful…
keep on rockin' in the free world !
he called kinsler
Kinsler came and hung out with him, but Hamilton says he didn’t drink when Kinsler was there, Kinsler then brought him home or wherever he dropped him off, and Hamilton went back out after that. Did some things he regrets (no drugs), but says that’s personal
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Can you imagine if Darryl Strawberry or Doc Gooden had a presser everytime they "relapsed"?
There’s no need for this.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
If everything I do is wrong, then goddamn, I do it right!
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Feb 3, 2012 1:06 PM CST reply actions
If Josh thinks there is
then there is. It’s all about steps.
by bafusilier on Feb 3, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So far...
- He called Ian after he had a few drinks, then did not drink while Ian was there.
- Went to another place, for 25-30 minutes and Kins took him home.
- Kins asked him if he was going to go anywhere else, Hammy said he wouldn’t.. then he went out again a half hour later and drank some more.
- Said he was very discrete and noone saw him drinking in the 2nd, he was trying to hide it.
No drugs used, 2 drug tests since Monday.
Kins didn't take him home
He took him back to where his car was which was probably at the first restaurant they were at
this is what I don't get
when he went back out and had more drinks, usually you don’t get a heightened sense of alert. alcohol naturally does the opposite, and how did the media find out what happened if no one saw him drink?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Ugh...this is excruciating
He talked about how he can be sneaky when he wants to drink. He picked up Ian, they talked. Ian went home, asked him “you aren’t going back out are you?” He said, “no” and of course he did go back and went drinking again. Yikes.
"Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends."
by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Feb 3, 2012 1:07 PM CST reply actions
not sure it was home
he said, “took him back to where he needed to be or go” or something like that. He never said home
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Damn,
so Josh was DWI last night?
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Monday night was when this all happened.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Excuse me.
So, Josh was DWI/DUI Monday night?
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Probably would've been better not to admit that
Of course we don’t know for sure that he was over the limit
These make good pies.
And Jerry Layne sucks goats.
by Thought_Experiment on Feb 3, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think it matters
I mean, it’s not a good thing. But at no point is he downplaying anything he’s doing. In his mind, it’s all very bad and he’s let a lot of people down. If anybody wants to heap more criticism against him, he seems willing to take it.
Wait, nevermind
Like nick said above, didn’t Josh say he walked to the first place? Now that I think about it, I think he did.
These make good pies.
And Jerry Layne sucks goats.
by Thought_Experiment on Feb 3, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
No
T_E: “Probably would’ve been better not to admit that”
I would think no way right.
No way you can prove he was legally drunk when he drove.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
Only matters in testimonial statements.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Bringing up that he's not reading a statement
and it does look like it is all off the cuff.
This is actually a good PC
Feel for the guy on a personal leave
Slightly afraid as a Rangers fan
Sounds like he confirmed
That photos are going to surface.
But I think they were just normal pictures
That’s the way he made it sound
Had to be brought up.
Lotta things on his mind right now.
by dolphinpuncher on Feb 3, 2012 1:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
"Would have been nice if this was talking about a contract
but we’ll put that on the back burner for a while"
And FYI for those who don't have the stream
They are showing it on ESPN right now.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
so JD will make comments at 2:30
likely “as an organization, we are fully behind Josh and his ongoing battle with addiction” which is all you really can say
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
"and holy shit....darvish is fucking amazing"
by dolphinpuncher on Feb 3, 2012 1:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
slip that one in there
we need a distraction from this distraction
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
The eventual Napoli sex tape
Plug it months before it surfaces.
by dolphinpuncher on Feb 3, 2012 1:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This is actually more troublesome than I thought
Stopped drinking, told someone he would stay home and then went back out
That’s worrisome.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
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And fiending.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Yep.
I can relate.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Absolutely.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
im taking away from this the extent that it went
compared to 2009, this is nothing. it sounds like even though he went back out, he recognized what was happening and stopped himself.
Any more and you are getting a cease and desist from chromasters balls inc. - Chromaster
by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 3, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
I had the opposite reaction
I like yours better.
not really
he mentions he did “some things he regrets” and says that is personal. I heard that as pretty serious, and not just drinking as he was talking about the drinking already. He does state he didn’t do drugs
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
im saying that compared to 2009, its progress.
adicts are going to relapse more so than not. the fact that this didnt turn into a bender like 2009 was is encouraging. he reached out to a friend even if he ended up deceiving him afterward.
im not trying to say this was nothing, but putting it contextually with Josh’s situation, this couldve been much much worse.
Any more and you are getting a cease and desist from chromasters balls inc. - Chromaster
by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 3, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
we don't know what fully happened though
it could have been worse than 09 or on the same level.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
youre just going off of speculation tho.
given what he said, given the information out there, this is not a repeat of 2009.
Any more and you are getting a cease and desist from chromasters balls inc. - Chromaster
by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 3, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
why?
because the photos aren’t posted on deadspin?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
no, because you are drafting opinions based on things you think happened.
wait until some actual evidence comes out for you to start calling this a disaster. until then, i will use the facts presented and think that this was progress for a recovering addict. josh made bad decisions, but he was able to stop himself at some point – something he hasnt been able to do in the past.
Any more and you are getting a cease and desist from chromasters balls inc. - Chromaster
by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 3, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
x
“Things happen to me personally that I’m not proud of , they are personal and being handled as that. … I did take pictures with people, and it was just wrong. That’s all it comes down to. I needed to be responsible, period. And I was not responsible. Those actions hurt a lot of people who are very close to me.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I don't know exactly what happened
but this is definitely more than just having a few drinks. I think it is as serious as the incident in 09
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
he said that he didn’t take pics with others when he was drinking but that he did take pictures that night. Sounds diff. than 09 where we had pictures of him drinking with others. pictures he took seem more with others but not drinking with others.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 3, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
x
things happen that he’s not proud of, and you think he just did a quick picture and he’s done. unlikely
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
When he specidically discribed the picture situation yes I think its likely thats what happened.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 3, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
did you read the entire comment?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
He specidically discribed the picture situation, dude.
That’s all you need to know.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
dude
he didn’t tell you what happened. he said it was wrong and irresponsible. If he just took a smiling snapshot, would that be considered wrong and irresponsible? c’mon
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
(I was making fun of the n00b)
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Sounds like female companionship?
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
pure speculation
dont be that guy
Any more and you are getting a cease and desist from chromasters balls inc. - Chromaster
by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 3, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, You are right.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
I think it was said he was seen with some ladies. I would wager that is where the regret lies.
A couple of pops, a hot chick grabbing the butt, and it’s on like the Kong.
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Sounded worse than 2009 to me
These make good pies.
And Jerry Layne sucks goats.
by Thought_Experiment on Feb 3, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
Because of the deceit with Ian
Calling him out there, talking about how good he was at fooling people when he’d been drinking, going to multiple places
At Arizona, I thought he all by himself and just strolled over the bar when he was there training in the offseason.
Plus the family stuff he talked about. Maybe that’s just more pics with girls, though.
These make good pies.
And Jerry Layne sucks goats.
by Thought_Experiment on Feb 3, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
doing jello shots
off of a woman’s tits, on a friday in the middle of nowehere in AZ, is much closer to doing a line than you realize. Falling off the wagon on a monday- much less risky.
Once you get those first couple drinks in you
I imagine it’s hard to stop. The deception with Ian was a result of that
that's what bothers me
he lied to a teammate about it.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
Ok, this answers my question below.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Addicts lie to everyone
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Huh?
I suppose he could be lying in the press conference, but I meant they lie to the people closest to them constantly, and to everyone else about their addiction.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
But not really surprising!
You probably won’t drink in front of people that don’t want you to drink, like Kinsler, but if you want a drink bad enough, you will lie, and you will find a way to get some booze. Is it distrubing, maybe it is somewhat. But I don’t think it’s particularly surprising.
That's not surprising in the least
and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he hasn’t had additional episodes that we don’t know about. This is what addicts do.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
I thought that was well done
in good taste, not contrived, appeared genuinely upset about it, appeared to be open to any counseling or treatments that anybody feels is necessary.
yep
my thoughts exactly
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 3, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Really, I thought he seemed more annoyed that he had to be doing this than anything else
That and just repeating things he’s said a thousand times before.
I didn't get that vibe at all
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
I think he was more annoyed at himself for drinking,
and he is a little annoyed at requiring himself to answer the charges or explain them publicly. But that is Josh, in my opinion. While he might lie to himself for awhile, he’ll try to avoid lying to his friends and family.
No, I got this vibe too.
But I read it as someone annoyed with himself, a 31-year old who needs to man up and be responsible to himself and his family. I wish I caught the exact “man up” quote, but he seemed to be scolding himself in front of the world there.
Exactly.
I doubt there is anyone in the world who wouldn’t be annoyed having to do what he did. No one likes to be paraded in front of the world every time they have an “oops” moment. He felt that he needed to though and I commend him for standing behind what he felt was the right thing to do.
Based off of the photo comment and the "regrets" that were personal
This sounds almost identical to the Arizona incident. I could be wrong on that, hopefully. Feel bad for the guy and hope he gets better, not much more to say about that.
I think you're right
He went out of his way to say there were no pics of him with a drink in his hand, but that people had taken pics.
Might be more pics with girls, etc.
These make good pies.
And Jerry Layne sucks goats.
by Thought_Experiment on Feb 3, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Josh is such a likable guy
But he really is a ticking time bomb
These make good pies.
And Jerry Layne sucks goats.
by Thought_Experiment on Feb 3, 2012 1:15 PM CST reply actions
This.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
And yet
you want to sign him for 5 or 6 years at over 20 million a year?
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Can we avoid shitting up JUST ONE THREAD?
by Parker20 on Feb 3, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
That was an honest question.
If you aren’t mature enough to discuss it, move on.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
Oh please, you were goading him and you know it.
Yes, it’s a legitimate question (I thought it too when I saw the statement), but this post doesn’t need an 80 page long “let’s argue with Josey” subthread."
There are plenty of other places to discuss his particular views on the contract
False.
JW already stated earlier that he would still offer him 5-105 and just now called him a ticking time bomb. The question was legit. You really should stop telling people what their intentions were.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
It wasn't legit. You had your answer, Woodcock.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
It was legit.
Why would you offer a ticking time bomb 5-105? Try answering without an insult.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
What an absolute idiot...go get your rake and try not to get anybody else picked off.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Is this supposed to hurt my feelings?
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
It's a legit question.
Why would you still want to offer a “ticking time bomb” 5/105?
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Another legit question...
why do you care what JW thinks?
by lost in space on Feb 3, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Is that really a question?
Of course they care…especially at a time like this.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I just don't understand why they keep beating this with a broken stick.
by lost in space on Feb 3, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
See below.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
I'm a big, big fan of Josh and have been out front with saying how
important he was to the team last year (see win/loss record and run production when he was out) and how important it is to sign him to an extension.
Woodcock sees where Josh has a relapse and feels like it’s a good time to drop the gloves with Josey.
It’s really not that tough to figure out why Vast Segments care about my opinions.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Yeah, you're the center of the LSB universe.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Drop the gloves with you?
I asked you an honest question free of insult and you were the one who couldn’t handle it. Now, you want to play the victim like the 14 year olds I teach every day. Pathetic.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
I like to hear different points of view.
If JW truly feels he is a “ticking time bomb”, the reasoning behind still offering him 5-105 is interesting.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
I said I'd do 5/105 with severe penalties for relapses, Woodcock.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Do you think
Hamilton would actually accept that and would the MLBPA and MLB approve such a contract?
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Why wouldn't it be?
If a rational discussion is going to be had, then contract discussions should be centered around what he would actually at least consider. For instance, if I said my best offer would be 3/36, that would (and should) be roundly ridiculed.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
It just seemed like an odd combination of views, that's all.
And, you know, since we’re on a Rangers website, I just thought I’d ask how those two views are compatible.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Man his agent has to be sick right now.
No chance he’s signing as Ranger for long term.
Unless there’s a discount, discount, discount.
by lost in space on Feb 3, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Pavlov's dog
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
Reading the bumps
Best Minor League System in baseball, Best Overseas scouting in baseball, Best Front Office in baseball, and, of course, the Moneypenis™ Jorge C 1/28/12
I can't believe he threw in that jab about the contract at the end
Is he really going to complain about not having a new contract right now right after he pulled that crap?
Your sense of humor..
Is non-existent.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 3, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
i think it was more in the sense of....if we're having a press conference thats what I want it to be about
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Are you talking about the "I wish we were talking about a contract right now" thing?
Because that’s not how I took it at all. He was showing regret for what he had done, not complaining.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
by Aqua on Feb 3, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's not how I saw it
just different perspectives I guess
maybe
I found it a little disingenuous. It seems like he wants to do what he wants and he’s tired of people telling him that it’s bad for him to do it. That’s why he doesn’t want a new accountability partner.
Yeah
I don’t agree at all. I think you are putting your preconceived notions onto him (and I might have agreed with you given his seeming opposition to another babysitter).
But he said he needs to aggressively fight his addiction in the same way he plays on the field (paraphrase). I think he believes that. I think this incident proved to himself that he’s always going to be vulnerable and that it’s not ok to slip like this.
I'll have to watch it again.
Maybe it was his body language or something else I was picking up on that just made me feel like there was a disconnect between what he was saying and what he meant.
Or maybe it was just my preconceived notions…
I thought
that it was him just saying I wish we were having a press conference cause I had a new contract and not cause I did something I shouldn’t have (resulting in the relapse). Didn’t seem he was complaining at all about not having a contract but wishing he wasn’t in the position to have a PC for the reason he is.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 3, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Right.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Different and wrong.
You’ve got a tin ear.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I didn't really see it as a jab.
It was off the cuff shit and everyone in the room was thinking about it.
Not like he whipped his dick out, did the helicopter and went “WHERE’S MY MONEY BIIITCH??”
by dolphinpuncher on Feb 3, 2012 1:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
i would pay fucking tons of money for this to happen
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
If anything
I think it was a joke alluding to how he probably screwed himself a bit with this incident
That's how I took it.
It’s just his sense of humor.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 3, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
he alluded to family problems a couple of times.
Briefly at the beginning and asked reporters to respect his privacy on that. So it sounds like some issues at home might have sparked the incident.
In any case, he certainly handled himself well.
I've wondered about this.
But didn’t want to speculate. But usually there’s a trigger beyond “seems like a good way to kill time”.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Meh
I don’t think triggers have to be all that strong. Boredom is a fine trigger.
by ab03 on Feb 3, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sure.
And I shouldn’t have said usually. That’s based on my personal experiences… and I knew it might have nothing to do with that and didn’t want to suggest it since it’s one of many possibilities. But in my limited sample size… boredom was not the cause, stress from something was for a relapse.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Sometimes you can have some stress...
add a few moments of boredom, and you are headed out to be stupid, or at least that’s my experience.
For many...
Boredom can be the trigger. I’ve read a lot of biographies of entertainers that have had problems with alcohol and/or drugs and there seems to be two types: Those who can’t handle fame (Doesn’t seem like Josh), and those who cannot handle “down time.”
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
yea.
also him just deciding to go eat by himself. Probably means nothing but could cause then after he calls Ian so sorta seems maybe he went to eat and be alone and think. Ended up drinking some then called ian and they talked maybe about whatever was happening and it went from there.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 3, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
I am agreeing with this!
Boredom can be the most counter productive of experiences, especially if you are an addict. The thought comes into your mind, wouldn’t it be nice if I could go out and have a bear and a hamburger, and if you follow through, you are having a drinking incident.
I hate speculating
But I was watching (well, reading on close caption at lunch) and I caught the reference to personal problem at the beginning and also he and Ian talking about family.
by RyanBlueThunder on Feb 3, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
I imagine Ian would have known that Josh had been drinking, whether Josh admitted it to Ian or not.
Was that addressed?
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
As usual. You can always expect Ian to pop up.
by dolphinpuncher on Feb 3, 2012 1:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 16 recs
I don't always rec comments
but when I do, I prefer clever Ian popping up jokes.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Yeah
It’s not Ian’s responsibility to force him to stop drinking. I don’t even think he could have done that. It sounds like he showed up, asked him to stop, and showed that he was concerned. I don’t think Ian can be blamed, based on what we know.
Not mediocre. Right about average
He did, he said he was very good at hiding it when he'd been drinking
And Ian didn’t know. So we can only assume he wasn’t stinking drunk.
These make good pies.
And Jerry Layne sucks goats.
by Thought_Experiment on Feb 3, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
He said he had 3 drinks or so before calling Ian
It could be easy to not know someone has been drinking after only 3 drinks
but at the same time
is he just covering for Kinsler. It seems a bit strange to me. I hope that is not the case.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
First of all
I doubt he is covering for Kinsler. He probably thought three drinks, this may be getting out of hand, so he called a teammate he trusts.
Kinsler did what he could as a teammate, not being a trained alcahol counselor. After Kinsler drove him to wherever, Josh decided he wanted some more drink. I see nothing at all wrong with what Kinslder did. And again, if Josh would have just gone back to his sober life, that would have been a near miracle.
That's the second time today someone has spelled "alcohol" with two a's.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Spelling is a lost art.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
I'm not saying I see anything wrong with what Kinsler did
based on the story we were given. I think he acted as anyone should, again, based on what we were told
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I doubt Kinsler knew when they were having dinner that Josh had been drinking
He said they talked about baseball, life, family and then Kins dropped him off.
if there had been some family issue like Hamilton eluded to that may be what Kins was referencing when he asked Josh if he was going home.
Then Josh went back out, continued drinking, and either he called Ian to come get him or its possible Katie called Tess when Josh didn’t come home and thats how the ball got rolling.
I think Kinsler knew he had a drink or two before he got there.
Josh said himself that Ian asked him “You aren’t going to go out again after I drop you off, are you?” That would imply to me that Kinsler knew he already had a drink or two, maybe said something to him, and wanted Josh to reinforce that he wouldn’t go back out.
I suppose you could also say he was making sure Josh wouldn’t go out because they just finished talking about the personal problems and Ian knew Josh may want to blow off some steam by going back out.
I think the former is the case and Josh was just trying to absolve Ian of letting him go after knowing he had a drink or two.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
I think this is the most likely scenario
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Seems more like he drunk dialed Ian and just wanted to hang out
They probably had a good time, and when Josh’s buzz wore off he went back for more.
Could've been chewing gum. Just had a slight buzz going..Ian wouldn't have been looking for signs.
by dolphinpuncher on Feb 3, 2012 1:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yes
otherwise why would Ian have tried to make sure he didn’t go back out
Well
that’s not exactly what Josh said. He said Ian asked if he was going out, right? I actually missed that part of the PC.
I shouldn't be speculating since I didn't hear it at all
I was just going on the recap in here.
I think it was
-He called Ian, maybe because of some initial guilt..or family issues that needed venting, whatever
-Went back to Ian’s car
-Ian asked if he was going back home, Josh said yes
-Josh did, then slipped back
by dolphinpuncher on Feb 3, 2012 1:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
woodsonrun.com
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If everything I do is wrong, then goddamn, I do it right!
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Feb 3, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
So I'm a little confused
Based on the comments, did Josh get a DUI/DWI this week or not?
WTF, MATE?!
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If everything I do is wrong, then goddamn, I do it right!
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Feb 3, 2012 1:26 PM CST reply actions
no
someone was just saying that he was driving while intoxicated
ah.
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If everything I do is wrong, then goddamn, I do it right!
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Feb 3, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
No he did not get one.
And upon further review.. I’m not sure he did?
He says he walked to the restaurant initially, so if he never went home then I don’t imagine he did.
i was confused about walking to a restaurant too
Was he not at sherlocks which was many miles away from his house?
I did not mean that.
I just used the abbreviations because I’m extremely busy and important.
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Emily Jones is surprised he didn't take questions..
Why should those savages be entitled to digging up all the information they can? Geez.
Savages?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
arbys big montana dude... stay clear
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 3, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
/Mike Napoli
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
Underused term of derision. I approve.
And, remember the Yu presser…
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
i like beer
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
I like you
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If everything I do is wrong, then goddamn, I do it right!
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Feb 3, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
Ian supposedly never knew he had been drinking
and he told him he wasn’t going anywhere else when Ian left him so… Ian was really just hanging out with him for a hour or whatever it was.
yep, he was wrong, admitted it and moved on
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Yep. He put it all out there.
What good could have come out of it if he answered questions? None really.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 3, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
Full text of the statement
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
The timeline of this thing is a bit confusing to me.
Looking forward to Andro or someone getting to the bottom of this… and hopefully talking to Ian about what his role was.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I can almost guarantee Ian won't say a word about anything past what has already been said.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
And that's fine.
Just want to hear his side of it.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Yea, I wouldn't want to put ian in the spot where he has to answer for this
honestly.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
I was about to say I really dont need to hear every single detail..
This is face palm enough for Josh and his loved ones.
Why
it seems pretty clear. Josh called Ian and Ian never knew Josh was drinking. And then when Ian dropped him off, he asked him if Josh was going out again (not suspiciously I guess) and Josh said no.
I’m not sure Ian did anything really special here but he also didn’t enable Josh so that’s good.
this just sucks
i feel bad for him. it looks like it might be an incident or a “scare” that keeps him stronger in the future.
i can just see him, upset about something that is his stability (family), in a bar thinking a couple beers will be ok. shit…a couple of beers is always ok for most of us.
This is some good honest self-awareness
“No drugs were used at all. I’ve had two drug tests since Monday, so I have no concerns there at all. Anytime I drink, there is a point that comes where the switch flips. It might be first three or four, or the 15th, and that’s what’s so dangerous about it.
Read more here: http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/foul_territory/2012/02/josh-hamilton-makes-statement-on-relapse.html#storylink=cpy
The old "fuck it" switch.
I have that one too.
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wow still so often
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i wonder if at any point in the night, Hamilton dropped this line.....
IAN, FREEZE!!!!!
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
If everything I do is wrong, then goddamn, I do it right!
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Feb 3, 2012 1:34 PM CST reply actions
How terrible is it that I knew exactly what you're talking about
Without even thinking about it?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I read it in Grant's voice
and then realized what the joke was.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
that's not terrible, mate.
It’s fucking epic!
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
If everything I do is wrong, then goddamn, I do it right!
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Feb 3, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
I'm curious how many new LSB users
there are since this went down.
Seeing a lot of new handles…
Go Strangers.
I was thinking the same thing.
I’m guessing at least 15.
by lost in space on Feb 3, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
The "unique visitors" count has spiked yesterday and today
A lot of people getting here by Googling Josh Hamilton relapse or clicking on the link here from Yahoo or SI
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 3, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
How long
before you get blamed for this relapse as a way to drive up page views?
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
heh
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From reading the transcript
He wasn’t staying at his house. He walked to a restaurant with a family member? And then Ian drove him back to ‘where he needed to be’. Just seems like he wasn’t staying at home that night.
And he says
‘For personal reasons I was with a family member’
reply to self
meaning he didn’t walk to a restaurant with the family member. He was staying with a family member (without a car) and walked to a restaurant alone. I’m speculating based on reading comprehension of course.
That's how I heard that as well
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
From listening live
It sounded like he said “For personal reasons, with a family member”…and i took that to mean reasons regarding a family member…
I wrote just what the transcript said
but I think we’re on the same page regardless of whether he was staying with a family member because of personal reasons or had personal reasons with a family member
i read that too
It just popped out at me as a possible mistake by the transcriptionist because it changed the circumstances of him not being at his home….
I say this only because the way I heard it (personal issue with family member leading him to not sleep at home) coupled with the change of heart by his stepfather leads me to wonder about the state of his marriage.
This is complete conjecture on my part.
It was his father-in-law, not stepfather.
The way I heard it is he was having a personal problem with a family member and went out alone because of it.
So just to offer an alternative
to the idea that he is fighting with his wife (which is what I think everyone is alluding to; though not saying explicitly), there is a post-op recovery hotel about 1/4 mile from Sherlock’s. He could have been, as he says, ‘with a family member for personal reasons’ and decided to go out. Again with the disclaimer of pure speculation and most likely 100% incorrect and not trying to start rumors of any sort.
Heard MLB radio talking with Fraley around lunch time
and he said that Josh’s wife had elective surgery (nothing serious) this week and that he was leaving the hospital and on his way home when he ducked into the bar. That was probably the “personal reason” he was referring to.
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Feb 3, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
This is painful to watch
Even if I didn’t have personal experience dealing with addicts it’d be painful to watch a man look so lost.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
I didn't quite take it like that
Seems like a person who is very aware the mistake he made and accepts the support system in place to rectify it. More painful would be to hear denial or not understanding what he could do fight it.
Of course, the more these slips keep happening, the more painful it will get.
I just meant
that even with all that in place, and his high degree of self-awareness, it’s a stark reminder of how little control addicts have over their disease. He just looks so weary, and even with all that he’s been through he is still facing soul-searching as he put it.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Yeah
it’s a monkey on his back for sure. But lots of people have problems in their life. If you are problem free, kudos. But more than having the problem, seems like what makes a problem difficult is the frustration from feeling like you don’t have a solution to it.
Issues
we all have them, and we all cope in our own ways, I guess. Sometimes I get philosophical and just think we are all addicted to something, some coping mechanism to deal with the great questions we can’t answer in ourselves. For some it’s drugs, alcohol, food, sex, etc. For some it’s religion. Some have passionate hobbies that are retreats from the world or themselves, some work too much. All to differing degrees depending on how good we are at working through our issues.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
listing to it on the repeat of it
He does say unless I heard it wrong again that he didn’t do “dangerous” things but just did some “worrisome” things. So sound like he did something or whatnot he shouldn’t have but nothing overly stupid cause of his drinking.
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"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 3, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Let them, we dont need every single detail..
And unless this is Arizona 09, they wont find much other then possibly Josh drinking.
didn't get sense there were bad pics from Mondays incedent.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 3, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
odd. it sounded like there definitely were
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One other thing
I guess it’s not entirely clear from the press conference, but it looks like it wouldn’t have been really easy to stop him from drinking as it seems as though he wasn’t doing it really out in the open. Of course, the pictures may show something different.
I just don't undestand why he would to a place that's fairly crowded like that.
by lost in space on Feb 3, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
if he walked there maybe convenience.. ....
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 3, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
i could take 5 shots of vodka in 10 seconds nad you wouldnt know if it was your turn at the pool table
or if i “went to the bathroom”
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 3, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
but he wouldn't necessarily have the same tolerance anymore
as someone who drinks a lot
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Did you, in fact, take 5 shots of vodka in 10 seconds before writing this post?
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
im at work.. and no.. im drinking a diet coke
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 3, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
People always think they're better at hiding things than they really are.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I mean
he made it a point to say that he was hiding his drinking the second time out. I don’t know why he would emphasize that but he seemed to want to, saying he was hiding the drinking.
Protecting Ian
would be my guess.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
True. My mistake.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
the way he talked about "when he drinks...he can be sneaky..."
makes it sound like he’s been through this more times than just on Monday and a few years back in Scottsdale.
Jesus, this is seriously getting out of control.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I'm talking about the speculation, not the implication from the statement.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
LM's post is the speculation.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I think there is some assuming
but let’s not be so naive as to think this doesn’t happen every now and then with an addict in which it doesn’t go public. or do you think the press know about every incident.
how did this one go public btw? I’m just curious
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I don't think it's unfair to question whether these two public incidents
are the only slip-ups he’s had. It’s kind of like wondering if Wash’s positive test was actually the first time he did coke… Was it because Josh knew there would be pictures leak out eventually and he wanted to get ahead of the story?
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
It's the internet, man.
Between this, ASL and Irish and TLTQ and, well everyone, it’s going to happen.
Everyone has to throw in their own crazy theory and thoughts.
The next few days will be fun. Or not.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Why me?
What did I do?
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
Hahaha.
You get lumped in for engaging your boy.
I’m really just saying this tongue in cheek. People be crazy.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
On this occassion,
I was asking him an honest question and he went nuclear.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
And you acted shocked that he responded that way.
That’s probably my main point with that.
Oh, and see the matchst1ck? I’m engaging someone else about talking to JW. Is this better?
: )
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
It's why I <3 you deep down.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I've been told
the way to address Josey is in a professional and polite manner and he’ll respond in kind. I guess that was proven wrong.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 3, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
what the fuck, 105.3
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Details?
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by hornedfrogs45 on Feb 3, 2012 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
just let a caller talk about how he saw hamilton take some woman into the bathroom
came out a few minutes later and bolted.
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by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 3, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
People listen to 105.3?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
by Brad on Feb 3, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
i hope not
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by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 3, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
rec'd
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If everything I do is wrong, then goddamn, I do it right!
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Feb 3, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
105.3 is actually a pretty good rock station out here.
ite-Bay e-May, itches-Bay
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Feb 3, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
good lord
lets talk about stuff on air that we have no idea is true or not….awesome.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
105.3 is so desperate for ratings
I don’t think they care anything about ethics or protocol
These make good pies.
And Jerry Layne sucks goats.
by Thought_Experiment on Feb 3, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
I really don't think there is any protocol or ethics tied to talk radio
I don’t think there ever has been.
it's mostly all regular fans/listeners
but every once in awhile they get a protocol …
"Honor your Scholly" -- Maximillian, Jan. 31 2012
I saw Hamilton save nineteen babies from burning buildings
AND create the first real translation of the Voynich Manuscript. You can’t say he didn’t. I saw it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
my friend's sister works w/ someone who heard him brag that he started the fires
"Honor your Scholly" -- Maximillian, Jan. 31 2012
And one of the babies winked at me!
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
After reading the transcript...
I’m not that worried about Josh. Or at least… I’m not worried more than I was a month ago. While he did do something that sounds like he believes was foolish and unwise… he notified the team and MLB the next day again and owned up to it.
This will probably not be the last time he has a slip… I’m pretty proud of how seriously he treats even minor slip ups… it encourages me. So many others try and hide even a small mistake out of guilt or shame and it just gets worse and worse.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
by Brad on Feb 3, 2012 1:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
this is how i feel as well.....he's trying to do the right thing it seems like
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Just hope whatever problems he is having otherwise
don’t get too bad. As was discussed previously… you don’t need a motive to relapse, but it certainly won’t help if hes having a tough time at home.
I agree
but to add a touch of grey to it, you could make the argument that these press conferences only happen when he gets caught publicly (with pictures or witness accounts).
But even then, at least he knows that when he gets caught, he has to own up to it very publicly.
The press conference doesn't matter to me though.
It’s notifying the team and MLB. When he gets caught doing something and hides it from them… then I’ll be very concerned.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Add his family to that list of the Rangers & MLB.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Either way
you wonder if he only does it when he knows he’s publicly been caught.
Or maybe he does it every time he has a relapse but the Rangers only talk about it when he’s publicly been caught.
I'm guessing it's only talked about publically when he's been caught.
If he told the Rangers and MLB Tuesday, they knew about it before it broke by Fraley. And they definitely knew for like a month or so before Deadspin broke the last one with the pics.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Even so...
I’ve seen addicts who KNEW they were going to get caught try and lie about it.
And if he was hiding incidents from EVERYONE… I also think he probably would have relapsed hardcore by now because of how slippery that slope is.
All very speculative… but that’s my gut feel. I think he’s owning up to his employers and family because he knows he has to in order to stay right.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yeah
I agree with this to a certain extent. But I also don’t like to compare Josh to my 20 year old college burnout addict friends (of 10 years ago). He’s a lot older and at this point could manage to be a savvy functioning addict.
Anyway, that’s not even speculation as much as it is just outlining the worst possible scenario that I don’t think is actually happening.
this is how I feel
I suspect there have been more than two relapses, and I suspect he’s been upfront with his family and team about them. No need to involve the media every single time.
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Fuck the Angels.
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by AceJC on Feb 3, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sigh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeL3XIWBvdc
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YU GUYS
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by hornedfrogs45 on Feb 3, 2012 1:51 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
It's a steep price to pay for perfection.
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How much did official unis cost in the 70s/80s?
Have they always been so overpriced (relative to the times obviously)?
Ill probably end up getting one of the $100 replicas.
I got a jersey for a team that shall be unnamed,
hand stitched, $125! I don’t know if it was the real thing or not, but it was $125 and that’s real enough!
yes.
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by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 3, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
x
http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3416858&cp=1452369.1452921.2455402
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by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 3, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
His NPB jersey said Darvish on the back too.
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(in Chris Rock voice): GOOD *LAWD* THAT'S A LOTTA YEN !!!
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YUUUUUUUUUU
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This trumps all other news today.
I don’t care if the earth explodes in 20 minutes, this is bigger news.
by lost in space on Feb 3, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
And with a quick copy of a link.....
I have my birthday wish list to my wife complete…..excellent……
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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 3, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
Ah..FAP FAP! Le freak, c'est chic.
by dolphinpuncher on Feb 3, 2012 2:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
x
“”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj2Zf9tlg2Y" target="new">and now for something completely different"
language may make it NSFW. I just find these funny
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
oops
and now for something completely different
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
and it's not monty python if you are wondering
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
So anybody see that reference to reporters
and not taking any questions? I thought it might be a veiled attack on Fraley, but then he backtracked on it.
More interesting is that it’s not in the transcription ("I’m not going to take any questions, etc.)
just two days ago, such happiness ...
shouldn’t the offseason provide a break from these drastic ups and downs?
this was Wednesday afternoon — gonna assume nobody, including Ian, knew what was about to break?
"Honor your Scholly" -- Maximillian, Jan. 31 2012
So
how about Roy Oswalt?
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To me it's not so much about the relapse
It’s the circumstances that appear to be surrounding it. The signs all point to trouble at home and that’s something that’s incredibly unfortunate and sad for me to see, and it seems like that was likely a catalyst for what went down.
I know that addicts don’t need a good reason to relapse, but something like that is usually a decent trigger for one.
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Too much speculation and overreaction....
Josh took a few drinks….it’s a sad situation for him and his family that he has to deal with this every day but he is dealing with it. We all deal with our own demons…
It’s a shame that it happened but I’m certain he would just assume everyone move on. I’m going to do what he asked of his fans…I’m going to pray for him and continue to pray for myself because I’m just like Hammy…I’m a flawed Christian and I can be a better person and example to my kids and family.
After that, I’m moving on….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 3, 2012 2:20 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
So
1)His father in law stepped back from being his handler
2) he walked from where he was staying to Sherlock’s (that’s not by his house btw)
3) So he’s not living at his house in Southlake anymore, I’m guessing
Sounds like he’s not living with his wife right now
"Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends."
by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Feb 3, 2012 2:24 PM CST reply actions
I posted somewhere above but
your comment is just as speculative as the alternative scenario I supplied that he was staying with a family member at the Cloister post-op recovery hotel, a short walk from the bar. Either or neither could be true.
Somewhere in here is the real story.
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JD news conference....
Evan Grant sounds drunk or unprepared…all over the road.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Did he not write a story this morning?
Or did it just not get linked in the AM thread?
I can't get the PC right now
but I think he usually sounds drunk. It’s the lisp.
by elchicodelgado on Feb 3, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
Gah, no kidding
Took him five minutes to ask one question. Spit it out, EG
These make good pies.
And Jerry Layne sucks goats.
by Thought_Experiment on Feb 3, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Baby Jesus?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
by JDT217 on Feb 3, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It must have been a short news conference because at 2:40 pm...
I couldn’t fine it. What did he say?
It's on 103.3 right now.
EG second question isn’t as bad but seems unprepared or afraid to ask something.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
It's a free app if you have a smart phone.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 3, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
My phone is smarter than I am
And I am not allowed to download unapproved plugs, so it was a nice try tough.
We are equally as smart as our phone....
as long as we can get to google search.
by lost in space on Feb 3, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
No, my phone is a pain and has a ton of applications
Generally I don’t know how to use them, but I can get to facebook, check my e-mail and find google maps. I may be the worlds slowest texter, and I love the fact that it does predictive texting fairly well.
Predictive texting
is equally as nice as the copy/paste feature in my opinion.
Laziness is just too easy these days.
by lost in space on Feb 3, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
So yeah, I keep running over to Deadspin and Thebiglead to see if they have pics.
“Gerry Farley” lolz
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Where would the pics have come from?
People at the bars taking phone pics?
by lost in space on Feb 3, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
That's a tough call.
I’ve been thinking all day what I would have done if i saw him.
I still can’t figure that part out.
by lost in space on Feb 3, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
I don't like taking pictures of people.
It seems like an invasion of privacy, but if somebody is fool enough to take a picture of me, it’s not big deal. But if I saw Josh at a bar, I would probably be alarmed and trying to dream up some way to get him out of the bar before he got drunk.
I would've pulled out my phone and took a pic.
and likely would’ve came here with it to prove my post about it.
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He said there were pics at this news conference, I believe.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Knowing all we know about Josh's problems and talents...
Would you switch places with him right now?
by Wemedge on Feb 3, 2012 2:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I would!
Imagine being a really good hitter, having a wonderful family, playing on a team that has been to the World Series two years in a row. I know I have some weaknesses I have been able to stay away from for the last few years, and I would hope he would be able to afford some pretty solid help.
Without a doubt.
I would.
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The largest reason
is imagining the toll of a constant battle with addition and what that would not only do to myself and my teammates, but my wife and kids. No fame or fortune is worth facing that battle, especially due to the damage and strain it unfairly puts my family in.
I respect Josh a great deal, but would never in a million years trade places with him.
According to the concert arena
Josh is still going to give his motivational speech in Houston tonite at 7pm
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
his wife said the same thing via twitter
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
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