Saturday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 4, 2012 8:56 AM CST
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Tired of the Josh Hamilton stuff? Well, you might want to skip this morning's links...
Jeff Wilson has a story on yesterday's news conference, which includes a mention of Jon Daniels saying the team and Hamilton are tabling contract discussions. Given the deadline of the start of spring training which Hamilton had previously issued, and given how far apart the sides apparently are, this seems to make it inevitable that Hamilton will test the free agent waters this offseason.
Anthony Andro also has a story on the Hamilton situation and yesterday's events.
Evan Grant says the Rangers made the right decision in deciding to table contract negotiations.
Drew Davison writes about fan reaction to the Hamilton relapse.
Mac Engel says the Rangers should let Hamilton walk after the season.
Peter Gammons talks to Jeff Allison, another former first rounder whose career was de-railed because of substance abuse, about what Hamilton is going through.
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Hambone looks like he's lost some weight
But maybe it’s just the lighting?
by rcreative on Feb 4, 2012 9:26 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
I think it is possible that this relapse could lead to a contract actually getting done.
After watching the news conference, I got the impression he views the org. as an important participant in his recovery. I’m sure other orgs. would want to appease his needs, but I wonder if Hamilton could find it genuine thereby concerned he would be hung out. I know it is his responsibility(sobriety), but it appears as if the team has really stepped to him.
I am unabashedly in favor of signing him, and I do realize the risk, but I don’t see the risk as huge as most here. I know I’m leading with my jaw. I just can’t help but equate much of the success of this franchise these past four years to his acquisition.
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I think that dressing a little nicer would have made you look better, Hammy
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 9:29 AM CST via mobile reply actions
i think he just came out as he usually is...
he even said…. i didnt want to write anythign down… i am who i am… i dont want to be fake…. even when he went to the yu press conference he wore some super cas stuff.
The hat kind of says "I don't care"
IMHO
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 9:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
i have never seen him dressed as anything but jeans and t shirt type of guy
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
I think it's the hat that I have a problem with
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Do you also think. . .
Tony Romo doesn’t care about football enough?
Ian Kinsler has a horrible approach to baseball that makes him not a good player?
Julio Borbon is the dumbest baseball player you’ve ever seen?
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Yes, because it's always a mistake to listen to a guy who's top 5-7 at his position in a professional sports league.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Uh oh, it's the hat on backwards argument coming!
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I don't have a problem with it
Except at press conferences
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
really with the advertisement on this post?
im sure its an sbn deal
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 9:42 AM CST reply actions
I'm on mobile
What does it say?
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 9:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
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"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
It definitely is
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 9:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
maybe its telling me something
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"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
Whatever you have on clearly makes you look fat
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
>God reaches out to IANF
>IANF laughs, and continues drinking Vodka.
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 9:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
>havent had a drink since last saturday
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
>Calls 911 for IANF
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
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by CowboyHornedFrogs on Feb 4, 2012 10:08 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Of course...
…if everyone did that, there’d be no LSB.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 4, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
before the 2010 season
My gf was a trooper. Showed up on the backfields at 10. Watched bp. Watched the game at 2 then head to another stadium for a night game. Our field is great. Also recommend going to Indians/reds complex and the new Rockies complex. The A’s complex and the Giants complex were kinda dumpy.
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by AndrusImpersonator on Feb 4, 2012 10:10 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I went to three last year.
The wife and I were planning to go this year but we scrapped the idea. I think it will be too crazy with another World Series appearance plus the Yu Factor.
Spring training is awesome. Great to just get out in the sun and get some rays. Players are very laid back and easy to talk with/get autographs from. Seats are very cheap, you can sit behind home plate for $20.
Last year I got autographs from Young, Kinsler, CJ, Mitch, and Murph without even trying very hard.
where are you flying from?
SWA has ding fares to Phoneix pretty often. We got a round trip from Corpus for 200
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by AndrusImpersonator on Feb 4, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
oh
well then I dont know about that. We stayed in a Hilton by the airport when we were there. Real close to the ASU campus. Theres so much stuff down there. And the women….oh the women
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by AndrusImpersonator on Feb 4, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
The Rangers stay in the Holiday Inn
Last year I shared an elevator with Neffy, and ate breakfast next to Profar.
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:19 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think it's booked this year though
I’m heading out there with my Dad in the middle of March.
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:22 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
We'll be there sometime between the 10th and the 18th
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would say try NYPD pizza
But that sounds like something they would have in NY.
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ive been to about 10-15
They’re like minor league games, but without as much of the annoying mid-inning stuff, and you get to see top prospects AND MLB players.
I enjoy them.
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
No, but since the Braves play right down the street and we get discounted tickets, I'm probably going to this year.
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the problem with ST in FL
is that the team are spread so far apart. The Astros over in Kissimmee are a short drive away. Lakeland (Tigers?) is not that bad of a drive either.
by RangerMad on Feb 4, 2012 10:45 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
63 days until opening day.... i can smell the garlic fries, stench from the restrooms, and
baseball
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:14 AM CST reply actions
clean your apt bro
thats no way to live
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by AndrusImpersonator on Feb 4, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
I disagree
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Which means 64 until the tailgate
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
and 65 days until Yu's start on national TV
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Yu don't think he'll start game 2?
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
game 3... ESPN Sunday night baseball
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
I doubt I'm going to the tailgate then
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:19 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Someone told me they get nacho cheese on the garlic fries.
Have you ever tried this?
by lost in space on Feb 4, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
That sounds like sex in my mouth
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:18 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I havent... i just like the garlic fries w a touch of ketchup
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
i know the garlic fries @ RBIA are consistently ranked some of the top concession
picks in the country…
/goestogoogletofindarticle
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
I know that they're John Radigans favorite ballpark item
He says “they’re a delicious!”
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The first 1/3 of the batch are good.
Then they get super soggy.
by lost in space on Feb 4, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Hmmmm.....I figured Rhads as more of a cheeseburger guy.....
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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 4, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Underrated
and rec’d
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by DonDrapersOPS on Feb 4, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
Thats because they dont sell Butter Brickle
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This is why I laugh when someone complains about our food prices.
Yes they’re more than you’d pay for fast food outside the gates, but go to a theater or a ballpark and come back to me.
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We let you bring in outside food and beverages, too.
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by Brad on Feb 4, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
My point is, I can either get a giant bacon wrapped hotdog with chips and a pickle,
or a bucket of fries. I can’t bring myself to buy the fries.
That's what he said
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there is nothing worse than eating at movies
terrible quality food, extremely expensive prices, only sell coke and no dr pepper. Awful
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Nachos and a water cost me $11 last night.
Sheesh.
by lost in space on Feb 4, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
the question is how much did the nacho cheese cost the theater
when they originally bought it back in 1986?
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My guess is the cost for both items was close to $2.
by lost in space on Feb 4, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
I used to organize the concessions at a school I coached at for awhile.
Bottles of water (depending upon size) can be had for between $0.15-$0.30, when bought in a reasonable bulk. Nachos and cheese probably run about the same, though I never averaged it out. The profit margin on concessions at theaters is obscene.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
It's either that or movie tickets start becoming $20 per.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
the local AMC inMcKinney
has tickets less then $5. They have to be making their money solely off concessions
by RangerMad on Feb 4, 2012 2:09 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
you need to choose a better theatre
by RangerMad on Feb 4, 2012 11:53 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
He has an app for that
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
The Movie Tavern I used to go to isn't terrible food-wise.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Ive only had them once and thought they were awful
Not crispy at all. Perhaps I got the poor end of a batch as mentioned above.
Had them at a Giants game at the 'Stick about 15 years ago...
and that’s just the way they are.
when do the community projections start?
by RangerMad on Feb 4, 2012 10:21 AM CST via Android app reply actions
March I think
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, that's when we did them last year
IIRC.
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we need moar baseball.... ballpark concessions, hambones fashion, sbn ad talk this morning.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:23 AM CST reply actions
we need to sign a UIF so we have something to be pissed or excited about
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
wheres Khalil Greene when ya need him?
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by AndrusImpersonator on Feb 4, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
edwin encarnacion? who says no....
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
If only he weren't 90 years old....loved that guy.....
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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 4, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
And spring training
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
yes... i say prayers that everyone makes it out of spring training injury free
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
But you exclude Tommy Hunter
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 4, 2012 10:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Quiz
When Babe Ruth had 60 homers in 1927, where did he finish in the AL MVP voting?
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
well, BR considers the leargue awards handed out MVPs
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
seems like he had no votes at all.
I figured out from wikipedia just now that past winners were ineligbile for the AL award in those days. Odd.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
ive heard people debate about who was the best of all time based on awards
and its idiotic bc the way people voted before was soo diffferent… hell the baseballs were different for a while…
They gave away a Chalmers car
And they didn’t feel it made sense for someone to have more than one car, so once you won, you were ineligible in future years.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 4, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Bill James wrote about this in his "Historical Abstract"
(Which everyone should read, btw).
He seemed to think part of the motivation was that no one wanted Ty Cobb to have 10 cars.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 4, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
So I see this has all been handled.
My bad.
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Third.
?
I know back then there was a (I think unwritten) rule you couldn’t win the MVP twice, so he only has one.
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If I knew that, I'm not sure why I guessed third.
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So it appears Sickels thinks Olt's bat will probably be good enough you move him to the outfield before you trade him just because you don't have room at third.
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Like all things, it has to be dependent on return.
I take it as meaning you don’t just trade him for what you can get because he’d be wasted otherwise. His bat can carry at another position.
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by philkid3 on Feb 4, 2012 2:16 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm thinking if he is not traded
that he will break inas a four corner utility player. His outfield D will likely be below avg but acceptable in small doses. Sorta like Moreland. When Beltre leaves he would take over at 3B. He would take MY’s roster spot in 2014
by RangerMad on Feb 4, 2012 12:01 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
why do you say his OF defense will be below average?
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
probably because of his footspeed
by RangerMad on Feb 4, 2012 12:13 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
He sure didn't seem Moreland-slow when I saw him.
Of course I’m no scout, but I’ve also read nothing calling especially slow, and a ton about how athletic he is.
Also, the bar in the corner outfield is pretty low because of how many glaciers with good bats are stashed there.
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by philkid3 on Feb 4, 2012 2:37 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Moreland != Olt anywhere on defense.
That doesn’t make sense.
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MM problem in the OF is not his glove or arm
it is his choice of footwear. Those cement shoes kill his range
by RangerMad on Feb 4, 2012 12:15 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
LIke Villanueva
Mike Olt is a pretty good athlete. Additionally, if Mike Olt breaks into the bigs at all, whatever position he plays, after playing mosltly at 3b in the high minors, playing 1b and COF (and some 3b) during his rookie debut want affect his value in any way. Scouts will know everything they need to know about his skill set to preserve his value.
Also
the main problem with this debate is a that is is a bit of a straw man argument: won’t he lose value as a 1b bat (in terms of production) as opposed to playing 3b. Yes. But it won’t be black and white. Depending on the club options, he could be an upgrade for this club at 1b when he is ready. He could be an upgrade at LF. He could provide a lot of value playing 3 spots (and DH) depending on the construction of the club at the time he is ready. Finally, he won’t lose his value as a trade piece as a plus glove ~20hr 3b whatever happens (wherever he gets his PT) if a nice trade evolves for him. And of course he could get traded before he debuts here. So, It should be a win win here.
It depends on what you think the debate is.
If the debate is, “will Mike Olt be worth more to the Rangers in a trade as a third baseman than he will be playing first base/outfield/wherever for Texas,” then it’s still an open question… and depends on a lot of variables.
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If he's above average defensively at both 3B and LF...
…you lose about 2 wins moving him to LF.
I don’t see how it makes more sense to move him than trade him.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 4, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
Since 3B is considered much more difficult to play
Why would you assume you would be only average in LF?
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Different physical skills
I’d imagine quickness (burst, reaction, agility) is far more important important than speed at 3B, but the opposite holds in LF.
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Adam was saying above average in LF and 3b
would be considerably less valuable in LF
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I took from AJM's post
…you save more runs defending at 3B, therefore you add more wins there with good defense than you do with good defense in LF.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 4, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
well, it all depends on the context
presumably we’re talking about 2013 at the earliest. More likely later in ‘13. If Olt really is above average at 3b, it is possible that by 2014 or 2015 he’ll be better defensively than an aging Beltre, who you could just slide into DH. So maybe we’re really talking only about a year or two of mostly outfield time.
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
to be fair
if Olt becomes a t top ten prospect and the best 3b prospect in the game, then you probably do look to deal him for a comparably valued outfield or 1b prospect (bigger bat or even better defense) in a year or so. But that requires that such a player is available. Blue chip prospects aren’t a 100% liquid market – it isn’t obvious that a right fit would be out there.
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Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
and breaking him in as a UT player
would allow Wash to manage his ABs.
by RangerMad on Feb 4, 2012 12:18 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
now there is something to look forward to...
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
I assume if Olt is all that, we'll end up trading Beltre after 2013
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 4, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
that'd make sense
and for that reason, I’m not super-worried about it. If Olt really is a cornerstone level player, there will be space for him. If he’s not, then you’re talking about a guy who you flip if a team values him higher than you, otherwise you make do with him where you can. Not too undifferent from someone like Ogando right now.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Two?
I get one unless I’m missing something. What spread are you referencing.
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by philkid3 on Feb 4, 2012 2:28 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
are these the right numbers?
3B: +2.5 runs
LF: -7.5 runs
I don’t see the two wins either
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I went to the Hamilton seminar last nite
It was in conjunction with a “speed metal” Christian rock band. Bizarre. None other than Lance Berkman came to support Hambone on stage and discussed with the audience the importance of lifting up someone who has fallen. Berkman also ribbed Josh that he couldn’t let a Dallas area team win the World Series before a Houston area team. Lots of boos on that one. Lastly it was revealed than Hammy lived with his grandma for awhile in his mid 20’s and if he had bad dreams he sometime would go sleep in her bed. There was just a bit of laughter at that before the crowd groaned in dismay.
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by eclou on Feb 4, 2012 2:01 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
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