Sunday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 5, 2012 10:56 AM CST
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Super Bowl Sunday. I've got little interest in the football game tonight. That's what happens when you don't really care for either team playing.
Jesse Sanchez has a story on Julio Borbon, who is playing winter ball and will be competing for playing time in centerfield in spring training.
Randy Galloway says he's ready for baseball season to start, and talks some more about that Josh Hamilton situation, saying that there are reportedly photos being shopped that one person is asking $10,000 for, and another individual is asking $100,000 for.
Jean-Jacques Taylor writes that Hamilton's relapse has cost him what leverage he had with the Rangers.
Drew Davison has some notes on Brad Hawpe, Craig Gentry, and the winter caravan.
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the pictures.
How bad could they be? Right? Oh geez.
You gotta get up mighty muthafuckin' early in the mornin' to fuck with me - Wash
by AndrusImpersonator on Feb 5, 2012 11:02 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
If someone is really trying to sell one for $100,000
I’d hate to know what is in that photo because it wouldn’t be good
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Hopefully they're really not worth anything close to 100k
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
The Soul Patch has a source at a TV station
That said there are pics & vid of him sexing up some chick in the restroom. Full intergrourse grex.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
If true, this could be very bad for Josh.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
Meh...it'd be a Shit Storm for a few days and then fade away.
Kim Kardashian took it like Lassie from Ray Jay or whatever the fuck and it hasn’t hurt her career.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
She wasn't married at the time.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
And she wasn't famous at the time
And she wasn’t idolized because of her faith.
Comparing Kim Kardashian to Josh Hamilton is the worst comparison ever.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 5, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not comparing them ...whatever is out there isn't going to hurt Josh
unless somebody got hurt or was unwilling.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
It could cause tremendous disruption of the personal side of his life.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
It is obvious he owned up to it to the family by his statement.
The storm has already blown thru unless his wife decides that is it. I don’t see that happening.
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I don't agree
An alcoholic falling off the wagon a couple times is forgiveable. Cheating on his wife is completely different. There could be a backlash against him if he did that and then continued to go out a speak to groups like he has been doing.
by RangerMad on Feb 5, 2012 12:58 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
How is it not going to hurt?
His wife just had another kid and has stood by him through all of his shit and he repays her by getting drunk and cheatying on her. Thats not good
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
And wasn't a Christian role model.
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lol
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What career?
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I dont know, someone could just be trying to get a lot of money..
Doesn’t indicate the content I hope, they may think an intoxicated Josh is worth that, uhh not so much. The way I see it just get this over it. For some reason i just dont think its as bad as Arizona, Just a feeling.
I tend to agree that he's lost some leverage with the Rangers but
really, how much has this cost him in terms of other teams? I wonder, too, if due to the support system he has here, if Josh would be more willing come down to stay with the Rangers?
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 5, 2012 11:09 AM CST reply actions
Teams don't like players with serious distractions
I think there’s a good chance that around half the teams in baseball have 0 interest in Hamilton because of his past and now he’s got 2 public relapses while under team contract. The rest of the teams that will look past that won’t be looking to guarantee that much money to a player who they might lose completely to a bad relapse. And this doesn’t even address the major injury concerns he has.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Half the teams in baseball aren't interested in him because of his past?
I doubt that.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 5, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Nonsense
The list of teams that will be willing to sign Josh for a multi-year contract for say…..$15 MM annually…….you can count them on one hand.
That has more to do with team's financial situations and his injury history, though
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 5, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
How many teams do you think are concerned about his drug use affecting his body as he ages?
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
If he'd gone on a mad coke binge, it may have hurt him.
He’s had two relapses with booze and passed all drug tests for several years. He’s still going to get a very nice contract.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Ben and I were talking about this yesterday
At the end of the day, I don’t think it will end up costing any significant amount. I think it does give the Rangers some p.r. cover if he does walk, which they appear prepared to let him do if he wants Jayson Werth money.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 5, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
I really hadn't thought of it from the Rangers contract standpoint....the Rangers now have their angle for letting him walk....
I still think there’s a team out there willing to give him at least 6 years….I hate to see him go because I genuinely am concerned about him and love the way he plays.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 5, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
And who replaces him and at what cost?
Sure, they have an angle to let him walk but how does that help the Rangers?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
It helps the Rangers because they won't have Josh Hamilton at Werth money.....
As for who replaces him? They will cross that bridge when they get to it…..
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 5, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think the Rangers would pay him Werth type of money
before this incident. If they were willing to Josh would have signed already.
by RangerMad on Feb 5, 2012 12:12 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
No....my point is that I still believe there is a team who will be willing
to pay him Werth money or close to it….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 5, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Of course...if he was a free agent today, somebody would give him $ 100-120 million.
Factor in that the Mets & Dodgers may have different ownership next year and it’s a slam dunk he will get that kind of $$ as long as he’s healthy and sober.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
He's been healthy and sober once in his career
2008.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 5, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
And still found a way to be the AL MVP in 2010.
Nelson Cruz has never had a full healthy year in The Show, hell, didn’t get called up until late August 2008 because he was hurt.
Kinz has played more than 144 games once in his career.
Beltre has played more than 149 games once since 2007.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
So what?
No one is suggesting giving any of them $20-22 million per year for 6-8 years.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 5, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
5/105 with severe penalties for relapses.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
He's not signing that right now
And if I’m the Rangers, I don’t offer that.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 5, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
You don't want him no matter what...you've made that abundantly clear.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Yeah, you're right
If he were willing to sign a Wakefield contract at one year, $5 million, with perpetual team options at $5 million, I’d tell him to go pound sand.
Because I hate him so much and want to run him off.
Good call.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 5, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's a different reason every week with you...you're
worried about his health, you’re worried that his walk% is going to turn him into the Adrian Beltre we saw last year and now you’re worried about his sobriety.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I think there's a legit concern about his sobriety at this point.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Why?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
there should always be concern..
He’s not far remove from being a straight-up junkie.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
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by Ryin A on Feb 5, 2012 10:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
thats my only prob with Kinz
he is gona be nearly 32 and after his 10mil year he is gona be asking for at least MY got..with his durabilty issues and age..and see how MY contract was a hindrance..i dont want to go down that rd again
Young has been very good 2 of the 3 years of his contract.
In his “bad year” the Rangers still found their way to the World Series.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Just because someone else would do something stupid
isn’t justification for you to do something stupid also.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 5, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
If he puts up a year like 2010
then yes he gets something like Werth. A season like last year and he doesn’t get a deal over $100M
by RangerMad on Feb 5, 2012 12:30 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
My guess is that he puts up something like his 2008 season...not in
terms of games played but production.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I don't think it effects
his talks with the Rangers beyond postponing them.
by RangerMad on Feb 5, 2012 12:09 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
geez
$100k? That is a lot for some pictures.
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by FungoFrog on Feb 5, 2012 11:10 AM CST via mobile reply actions
or video
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
i saw that story yesterday about the video...
he looks like some freelance blogger… dont know how much stock to put in it…
i would link it.. but theres no use… its just some dude w a blog… no credibility
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 5, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
I put no stock in that story.
But it would be a sumbitch if true.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
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What on earth would they from the A's?
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"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 5, 2012 11:23 AM CST reply actions
Michael Choice.
Though I can’t imagine the A’s would trade him to us for Koji.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Same could be said of Mike Olt.
And the A’s supposedly covet him… I would be intrigued by a deal that potentially had an Olt/Choice swap with other things.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
we cant keep trading our potential young players Olt/ Harry
Kinz , Nap, Josh, Cruz are all coming up FA time and we cant sign them all..we have a lack of Major league fielders coming up thru the system..we need Olt, Martin, Moreland to perform to make up for these guys..
an Olt for Choice swap would make sense
Olt is blocked by Beltre. Rangers lack OF prospects. Does anyone know if Choice will stick in CF?
by RangerMad on Feb 5, 2012 12:38 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I don't think anyone expects him too.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
As RangerMad said...
We’d be taking our 22 year old 3B with good power, an ability to take a walk, an above average glove, a strong propensity to strikeout and coming off a good A+/Fall League showing…
For a 22 year old CF (who will probably be a COF) with great power, an ability to take a walk, an average glove, a strong propensity to strikeout coming off a good A+/Fall League showing.
And as Perfect Zero notes… Choice is local. UT-A product who grew up in Mansfield.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Oh God please this
If only for my personal pleasure. I enjoyed watching him play at UT-Arlington when I was there.
by Perfect Zero on Feb 5, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
heh. Ynoa, I like.
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photos
If a media company would pay you those sums for what proved to be generic Hamilton-and-fan photos, albeit at the bar in Sherlock’s, would you sell? Would knowledge that he’d been drinking matter?
I’ve got some big student loans, not sure what I’d do.
Go Strangers.
there are some rumors of it being a video of roethlisberger/tiger proportions
im sure deadspin-tmz types will eventually get a hold of it if its worth seeing.
hopefully they never surface for the sake of everyone.
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by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 5, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
No
Would seem sleazy still. And I’d know that’s how I made the money. I’d probably delete them
by ab03 on Feb 5, 2012 12:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
What if you didn't know he was drinking?
Ian didn’t.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 5, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
But then I am selling them
after knowing that he was drinking and realizing that is the value of the pictures? No, I’m not doing that.
I don't think I could even have videoed it in the first place.
I may be a sleaze, but I hope I’m not that bad. I do have some conscience left.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
I would have never snapped any pictures or filmed it
However, if the video somehow fell in my lap and I could sell it for 100k? Yeah, I’d sell it..
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
Can't speak to the $100,000 photo
but we were offered a 7-second video for 41 grand, pictures (plural) for 10K.
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The vid must be
Hamilton grinding on some chick ? Having been to that place once or twice after it opened would be interesting in seeing what was all in there- living in Uptown I had no desire to ever go back there but would occasionally still hit the one in Addison.
by ruben_sierra#21 on Feb 5, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Yes I'm already drunk
but the vid must be Hamilton grinding on some woman ? Would be interesting to see the photos- I went to that place a couple times after it opened but living in Uptown had no desire to ever go back. The one in Addison is 1,000 times better.
by ruben_sierra#21 on Feb 5, 2012 11:56 AM CST reply actions
I just wonder if all these people in the bar knew his past. They had to have.
It’s probably not easy to tell Josh “Hey man, ummmm. You shouldnt be here bro”
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by AndrusImpersonator on Feb 5, 2012 12:33 PM CST reply actions
Hawpe hits and takes
ground balls at first at our HS field most mornings
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 5, 2012 12:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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