Monday Morning Rangers Update
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 6, 2012 8:01 AM CST
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PrintFootball is done. It's officially baseball season now. That's exciting.
On that note, Jon Paul Morosi has a piece on how 2012 has the potential to be one of the greatest seasons in memory.
The DMN reports on an update from Ken Rosenthal who has the latest on Koji Uehara trade discussions. Rosenthal notes that the list of suitors for Uehara has grown and that the Oakland A's are now possibly involved.
Richard Durrett's positional outlook series moves to the mound. Durrett toes the rubber and writes about Ranger No. 1 starter Colby Lewis.
Finally, Power Rankings! Power Rankings are back. SI.com's Joe Lemire ranks baseball teams based on how powerful they are and determines that the Texas Rangers are the most powerful team in all of the baseball lands.
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Making a trade that gives them depth.
Defending Big D Check it out
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
Typical A's offseason
Oakland Athletics
Notable additions: OF Seth Smith, OF Jonny Gomes, SP Bartolo Colon, OF Josh Reddick, OF Collin Cowgill, SP Jarrod Parker, SP Brad Peacock, SP Tom Milone
Notable subtractions: SP Gio Gonzalez, SP Trevor Cahill, OF Josh Willingham, RP Andrew Bailey, OF David DeJesus, RP Craig Breslow, SP Josh Outman, OF Ryan Sweeney
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 8:28 AM CST via mobile reply actions
yes
I doubt they will – their ballpark is enough of an outlier to keep them fairly close to 500 at home. But they’ll come close.
That said, this is the first offseason of Beane’s that I actually think he did a good job in a long time. They needed to rebuild. The Gio trade was great. No need to keep Cahill or Bailey. They have shaped themselves up to be the team challenging Texas in 2-3 years when LAA collapses in a heap of old age.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
How far away do we think Seattle is?
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 9:12 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
a few years
i think montero will take a year or two. even then i don’t really know what they’re trying to do
Go Rice Owls!
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by JBImaknee on Feb 6, 2012 9:14 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
about
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
by Gdawg on Feb 6, 2012 9:26 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I c wat u did there
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 9:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
LAA has only two
postion players over 28 (Pujols/Hunter) if they wise up and bench Wells. Rangers have quite a few more than that. LAA starting pitching should stay pretty productive for more than 2-3 years too.
by ruben_sierra#21 on Feb 6, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
And the ones that are under 28, for the most part, are undewhelming
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No... he isn't.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
IDK..plugging Pujols in
Trumbo, Bourjas..Trout..along with Hunter, Kendrick..upgrade at catcher..i think with their pitching..they arent gona have to score 6-7 runs a game..and i believe that group is gona score enough to be strong
Where is Trumbo going to play?
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 6, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
lulwut
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
What spot?
Not 1B. If you say OF that sends Bourjos, Trout, or Hunter to the bench. Abreu is the DH so if he DH’s, Abreu is gone. If you say 3B, his defense will be so wretched it will negate some of his offense. You can’t just magically find a spot for a guy.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 6, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Well, Bourjos may be on his way to the Nats
/please please please please please
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Really?
I missed the rumor. What is it? If so, I hope they trade him to the Nats and play Trumbo and his 291 OBP in the OF.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 6, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
Here
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/02/cafardo-on-.html
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Interesting
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Lannan walks a bunch of guys,
and doesn’t strike out a ton. I would approve of that trade.
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We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 6, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
We would have our yearly Angels player
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'd settle for NeRa
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 12:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
What?!
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Trumbo will bring the OBP
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Trout is probably a year away from being great
and Torii is getting old fast. Aybar is okay but he’s not exactly a superstar. trumbo is a poor man’s Chris Davis
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
by JBImaknee on Feb 6, 2012 11:31 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
What's wrong with Aybar, Bourjos, and Trout?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Why does something have to be wrong with them?
The Angels offense will score 100 runs less than the Rangers.
Bold Flavors.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
And will score 300 more than the A's and M's
;)
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:31 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
That they'll score 100 fewer runs than the Rangers doesn't make them "underwhelming."
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Well "underwhelming" is subjective, right?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Trout and Bourjos whelm me. Aybar is respectable.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Those three + Pujols don't make an offense
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
hahaha
…..not possible
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
having young players
is not the same as having good players. give me trumbo any day.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
by JBImaknee on Feb 6, 2012 9:54 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
I don't understand how the ballpark plays into it
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 6, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
is this to me regarding Oakland?
my thought is that when a ballpark suppresses offense to a high extent you end up with more low scoring games which are more variable (individual runs are noisier than many runs and noise will push outcomes to 50/50 more than would be expected ) i have no proof of this, just a hypothesis
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
by JBImaknee on Feb 6, 2012 12:04 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Uehara
Can someone remind me again why we are trying to trade a good pitcher when his value is down?
How many times are we going to talk about the same
by kchorton on Feb 6, 2012 8:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nothing to see here. Move along.
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Because it can always get worse
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
There's no crying in baseball.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
Heh
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 9:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Guthrie to the Rockies for Hammel and Lindstrom
Guthrie already agreed to a 1y/$8.2M deal with the Rockies.
Good move for the Rockies. Can’t understand why the Birds did this.
Well I can't
Hammel and Lindstrom will make $8.35M so this isn’t a salary dump. Both are over 30. What reasons could there be for the Orioles to trade their ace for such return?
by RangersfaninROK on Feb 6, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
Well he was the closest thing to it that the Birds had
by RangersfaninROK on Feb 6, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
Does that make him an ace?
Best Minor League System in baseball, Best Overseas scouting in baseball, Best Front Office in baseball, and, of course, the Moneypenis™ Jorge C 1/28/12
No
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
He was their #1 starter.
That doesn’t make him an ace.
"It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard."
- Nolan Ryan
No... CJ was a legit #1 last year.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yep
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
In a corresponding move,
Clay Rapada was released.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 6, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Synergy
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
You need a reason?
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 6, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
and baseball is the reason he chose...
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Its the best reason
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I always snicker
When you respond to IANF….
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 6, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
I think youve mentioned that
Weve put our feelings out in the open, so there’s no weirdness.
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
My subject and body are separate thoughts
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ummmm
so did anyone else just see Jasmine Sadry’s post about a possible adult video Josh may have been a part of during his outing last week?
yeah
that has been discussed
by RangerMad on Feb 6, 2012 11:30 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah just saw that
a day behind I suppose
by RangerDANGER47 on Feb 6, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
for those of us who don't know what you are talking about,
please go on
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Feb 6, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
rumor is
that Josh got it on with some girl last week in the bathroom. Someone supposedly got a video of it
by RangerMad on Feb 6, 2012 11:47 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
I don't buy it
But this is the first I’ve heard of it
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:47 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
It is true
As reported by the Soul Patch yesterday and confirmed by Or yesterday.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
As credible newsource as the Ticket is...
And by credible let me use my sarcasm font of credible…. I doubt a Ticket Sunday fill in show with a pair of spares broke the story.
And to be honest, Greggo was screaming up and down Friday after the Hamilton presser that he “guarantees Hamilton cheated on his wife.”
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 6, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
Meh, one of those Soul Patch dudes has been in DFW media for 25-ish years
So I would assume he has contacts. And the other person mentioned works for a local TV station.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
I'm not saying it's not
Not true. But it just seems someone with more skins on the wall would be doing the breaking.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 6, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
I promise you, it's legit
we were offered the video for $41,000.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
Sports Producer, WFAA-TV/WFAA.com. Lover of feedback.
Did you see the video?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I haven't seen it personally
For all I know, nobody in a position to broadcast the video has seen it.
Look, for all we know it could be grainy footage of large tatooed white guy’s shirt and some grunting noises. But I was in the meeting when we discussed it. The guy shopping the video was definitely at the bar Monday night. I imagine the only reason it hasn’t been released yet is the price tag. (Though in our case, we wouldn’t have bit anyway — we decided acquiring something like that would be crossing the line).
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
Sports Producer, WFAA-TV/WFAA.com. Lover of feedback.
I imagine if anyone were to buy it they'd watch it beforehand.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yep
it didn’t take us long to say ‘no,’ though. I imagine Deadspin, TMZ, ET, etc have an excellent idea of what’s there.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
Sports Producer, WFAA-TV/WFAA.com. Lover of feedback.
I have to ask
Do you worry about getting in trouble at work for disclosing too much on LSB? Don’t get me wrong it is pretty interesting and I’m glad you have some insight so I’m just curious.
by elchicodelgado on Feb 6, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Not really
This isn’t really privileged information.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
Sports Producer, WFAA-TV/WFAA.com. Lover of feedback.
google "dyce josh hamilton"
dont think credible
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
x
The second incident in question is that Josh Hamilton went to a bathroom with a woman for 8-10 minutes while an off-duty manager blocked people from coming in. I was told by everyone I talked to that this happened, and that it was consensual. He then supposedly ran out of the bathroom, onto the patio and hurdled the fence. When he hurdled the fence multiple witnesses told me that he hit his knee on the iron fence surrounding the patio area. No one specified which knee it was. He then got in an SUV and left.
Great now he’s got a knee injury.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 6, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
This sounds more than ridiculous!
Ben Rothlesberger meets former MLB MVP, and hurdles an iron fence?! Are we really supposed to believe this?
It's possible but it seems unlikely.
What incentive would Sherlock’s have to allow that to happen in their bathroom? I mean I guess it gives them press but that isn’t good press. I wouldn’t be absolutely shocked if it was true but the BS meter is going off pretty hard.
by elchicodelgado on Feb 6, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
Any press is good press.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
Darn
Bob Klapisch @BobKlap Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Hearing #Mets are ready to announce Josh Lewin in the radio booth for 2012, replacing Wayne Hagin. One-year deal.
Retweeted by Adam J. Morris
BALLGAME
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 11:47 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Mets fans hit the jackpot.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 6, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
I has a sad.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
What a kick to the nuts.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Hey
Remember when the Rangers replaced Lewin with John Rhadigan? And how awesome that was?
Oh, wait…
"Those cocksuckers asking me if I thought we were gonna go up there and try to work his fuckin’ pitch count ‘cause he’s on three fuckin’ days rest…you know what I told those cocksuckers? He pitch ball, ball cross plate, we gonna knock the shit out of it."
- Wash
SLICED!
I like pretty dark haired women and breakfast food. - Ron Swanson
by Axe Em Rangers on Feb 6, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
It's a caught!
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
I want to forget that era of commentating for the rest of my life.
by lost in space on Feb 6, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
The one bright thing about that experience is that it makes the national broadcasts seem almost tolerable
"I wish I could tell you that TRangers fought the good fight, and the 2 strangers let him be. I wish I could tell you that - but Beaumont is no fairy-tale world." - bking
And
“It’s a caught!”
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 6, 2012 1:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Put a saddle on that one...
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Glad to see Lewin getting another job
…but man I wish it was with the Rangers. Getting rid of Lewin is by far the stupidest thing the Rangers have done since 2006.
"I wish I could tell you that TRangers fought the good fight, and the 2 strangers let him be. I wish I could tell you that - but Beaumont is no fairy-tale world." - bking
We signed Kazuo Fukumori
in 2007.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Feb 6, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
that was a low dollar sign
so not really all that dumb to try to add depth. some things just don’t work out, and that is one of them.
Replacing Lewin with Rhadigan was downright stupid.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
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