Wednesday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 8, 2012 9:06 AM CST
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PrintA fair amount of news yesterday for a February pre-spring training day...
T.R. Sullivan has a story on the Rangers and Elvis Andrus agreeing to a three year contract, worth approximately $14.5 million.
Jeff Wilson has a story on Elvis's new deal and Josh Hamilton's new "accountability partner."
Richard Durrett's positional outlook continues today, with Durrett looking at the team's #3 starter, who Durrett identifies as Yu Darvish.
Yu Darvish jerseys are now available for purchase, with the Rangers having to jump through some hoops to get permission to sell them before the start of the season.
Sullivan has a piece on the Rangers adding Joe Beimel and Conor Jackson to the organization on minor league deals with spring training invites.
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 9:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Their #1 is Colby Lewis...
This rotation has lots of upside, but it also has the possibility of crashing and burning.
by dumdum000333 on Feb 8, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
the #1 is not Colby Lewis
and every rotation has that possibility, outside of maybe the phillies. that’s why you get as many arms as you can.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I'm saying our rotation has more variability than most
Holland and Harrison each only have 1 solid starting year, Feliz and Yu have never started a major league game, and Colby Lewis is Colby Lewis.
by dumdum000333 on Feb 8, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
I agree, the Rangers staff has its question marks
but I would take this staff over most in baseball
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
As would I
I’m just pointing out that having a 5th starter with tons of upside doesn’t mean your rotation is a sure thing.
by dumdum000333 on Feb 8, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
He's not their #5.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Well their depth chart has him at #5
by RangersfaninROK on Feb 8, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Who does it have for #1 on our depth chart?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
http://tampabay.rays.mlb.com/team/depth_chart/index.jsp?c_id=tex
1. C. Lewis
2. Y. Darvish
3. D. Holland
4. N. Feliz
5. M. Harrison
6. A. Ogando
That's a bit different. We don't have a clear #1 in our roto.
by RangersfaninROK on Feb 8, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
Yes we do.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Darvish.
Boom.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Why can't he say Yu?
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 12:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Too soon to pronounce him our #1
Do we all hope he becomes our ace? Yes, but as it stands currently I think saying he is our #3 works. Let’s remember Harden and Feldman were our 1 and 2 going into 09 before Colby and CJ emerged.
by dumdum000333 on Feb 8, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
>Comparing Darvish to Harden and Feldman
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'm not comparing Darvish to them
I’m comparing having Colby Lewis penciled in as our 1 to them.
by dumdum000333 on Feb 8, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
He would have to be a Dum Dum to do that
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 12:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I just got rid of my Rich Harden shirsy
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 12:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
But...but......
Neffy
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 11:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
He's not our #5. Calling him a #5 is an insult.
by RangersfaninROK on Feb 8, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
okay
so who is our #5?
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Feb 8, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
huh?
stupid post
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Feb 8, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
I'm appeased!!
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 12:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Thank Yu. That was actually a poor attempt by myself :)
by RangersfaninROK on Feb 8, 2012 12:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Heh
It’s cool
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 12:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Moore is their #3.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
He may be on other teams
But however promising he may be, he’s not their No. 3. They probably consider him their No. 3. If you have Price, Shields, and last years ROY in the roto, you can’t call a rookie pitcher who probably will have his innings limited a No.3 no matter how promising or talented he is. I could agree with calling him their No. 4. And I saw columns citing as their No. 5.
by RangersfaninROK on Feb 8, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
Where can I get a red Darvish t-shirt?
Is the shop at RBiA the only place?
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 9:11 AM CST via mobile reply actions
There's a Rangers shop just north of downtown
It’s at Pearl and McKinney. Parking is a challenge during lunch hour but a breeze otherwise. They usually have a decent selection of Rangers gear.
by Rangers Fan Mike on Feb 8, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
That's actually farther away from where I live
But thanks anyway!
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 11:18 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
uptown
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by TagDon'tTweet on Feb 8, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
I checked the downtown Ft Worth Team Shop at lunch
They have 3 colors – red, white, and royal bl-yu. $28.
They are on the t-shirt wall at the back of the store.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Ok....so Philly says they're probably not going to re-sign Oswalt....
Oswalt has said no to the Pirates….the Rangers have some interest but it does not appear to be that serious or they would have signed him by now….same with St Louis…..
Now the Reds pop up as a rumored landing site for Oswalt but they’re saying it’s not true….
I have to say that I’m a little shocked that the market is this slow for Oswalt…I still don’t want him here but he would be hard to pass up if the money were down to like $3-5 mil with added incentives…..
Where does he end up?
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 8, 2012 9:19 AM CST reply actions
boston or cincinatti
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
I agree with Boston...especially with Lackey's injury...
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 8, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Oswalt has created this problem
by rejecting some that probably want him and wanting those that don’t want him. he is part woman
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
He wants a championship
It isn’t any wonder that he is spurning the Astros and Pirates.
by dumdum000333 on Feb 8, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
He may have no faith in Boston
Or has a grudge. I think he wants to be in the midwest seeing as he is targeting St. Louis and Texas.
by dumdum000333 on Feb 8, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Does anyone have faith in Boston?
After they took a dive in September and did nothing to improve themselves this off-season? Switching Francona for Bobby V. is not going to improve things, imho.
by Rangers Fan Mike on Feb 8, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
They did lead the AL in wins for large parts of the season
And there is no more Lackey and Daisuke in the rotation. They added some bullpen pieces. They are a surer bet than most in the AL to reach the playoffs.
by dumdum000333 on Feb 8, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
I think Boston has a better than even chance of making the playoffs
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 8, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
Wow.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Yes. Still very talented.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Boston actually made him an offer but I didn't hear any numbers...could be that he felt it was too low?
I thought the Reds were an interesting angle….I hadn’t heard much about this being interested in him.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 8, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
If that was the case
He could have gone to Detroit. Apparently the Tigers offered him $10M. He’s not going to get a better offer than that now.
by RangersfaninROK on Feb 8, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
Could the Angels possibly have interest in him as their 5th starter?
Who do they have now… Jerome Williams?
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 11:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Are they keeping Morales?
I doubt they have any payroll flexibility at this point.
by dumdum000333 on Feb 8, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Isn't that what we said before they signed the second biggest contract ever
+ CJ?
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 11:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I can totally see them trying to sign Oswalt
by RangersfaninROK on Feb 8, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
That would be a sick roto
But it wouldn’t have any depth.
No Sexi Lexi or Feldmania that could spot start… Just Jerome Williams
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 11:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nah. They want John Lannan.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I hope so
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't.
The Rangers record against soft-tossing lefties ain’t pretty. They’re like fucking kryptonite to that lineup. Just saying.
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I believe the
Nappon Ham Fighters have an open spot in their roto
by RangerMad on Feb 8, 2012 11:27 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Give me...Colorado
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Show me ... Ohio.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
And we're back.....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 8, 2012 10:55 AM CST reply actions
Who broke LSB?
Was there Dinopenis pics?
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
Probably IANF with more monkey porn
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 11:18 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Speaking of porn
I checked out Yu’s new girlfriend online when I got home from work last night. Not too shabby.
by Rangers Fan Mike on Feb 8, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
I hear her top half is US Coast Guard Approved Flotation Devices.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
I think his ex-wife is hotter
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 11:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe, but
there isn’t action footage of her available on the internets.
by Rangers Fan Mike on Feb 8, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
That we know of
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
rangers outfield bleachers for sale for a dumb price
rangers outfield bleachers for sale
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 10:59 AM CST reply actions
While it would be cool on my porch....
$540 is a little steep for an uncomfortable seat….that has witnessed more losing baseball than most people on the planet.
Shipping not possible?
BS says Roy Garber
/Shipping Wars.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
"Replace Ace? Done. Ace's was too long anyway." --Micah 1-17-12
Me wanna but I'm in NC.
FUCK!
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Richard Justice tweeted this story on Monte Irvin....pretty good read....I love hearing about the old days...
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120207&content_id=26598962&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 8, 2012 10:59 AM CST reply actions
Butters should be hired...
to be Hamilton’s acountabillibuddy.
--Brian
Better than Cartman
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He has Rays farm at #2
His farm rankings are a joke, imo.
by RangersfaninROK on Feb 8, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
The Angels aren't usually that high, correct?
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 12:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Norm shloundsh drunk thlis morning
Just horrific.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
That poor microphone
It has to be covered in so much bourbon and pastrami spittle right now.
"Live like you’re already dead, man. Have a good time. Do your best. Let it all come ripping right through you."
*stifles gag reflex*
yuck
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
Hard boiled eggs and beets.....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 8, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
This is more likely the case.
A little pickled herring, perhaps?
"Live like you’re already dead, man. Have a good time. Do your best. Let it all come ripping right through you."
I really like to listen to The Musers in the morning because they're entertaining
but their knowledge of sports….jeeeez.
They opined today that Josh Hamilton was embraced by most Rangers fans after this latest episode mainly because he’s white. They said if he was black and had worn his hat on backwards with upside down sunglasses he would have been treated differently. They also said Tarpley and Irvin didn’t receive this kind of treatment after they had press conferences.
This is absolute bullshit.
Mavericks fans didn’t really start coming down on Tarpley until 1990-91 or so and that was after several incidents. He returned in ‘87-88 to standing ovations…that’s what happens when you can score 27 points and pull down 23 boards in a game.
Cowboys fans also gave Irvin a standing ovation when he came back.
It’s not an issue of race.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I like the Musers as well, but
Anytime they attempt to talk baseball, it’s time to punch out.
by Rangers Fan Mike on Feb 8, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Didn't Tarpley receive a similar ovation when he came back in '94?
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 8, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Michael Irvin was always liked in Dallas
He had a great work ethic in practice, and was productive in games. It was easy for people to forgive him and hope he would straighten out. I don’t see a whole lot of difference between Irvin and Hamilton as far as fan acceptance goes.
umm, they said exactly that Tarpley received the same kind of treatment.
they said he got 3 or so strikes and then the fans turned on him.
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Feb 8, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
do you even listen before you make stupid ass posts?
i mean, come the fuck on
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Feb 8, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i mean, they fucking said exactly what your last paragraph says
that they didnt come down on him until after several incidents.
like, verfuckingbatum said exactly that.
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Feb 8, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
U mad?
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
What the hell is wrong with the site?
When I hit reply it just takes me to the top of the page. This site seems broken more often than working lately.
"Calmer than you are dude"
We tell our guys, control the controllables. Trust the process and don't sweat results. Be the casino.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 8, 2012 11:38 AM CST reply actions
It has nothing to do with this site.
SBNation is working through network infrastructure difficulties.
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You should demand a refund
by robert_d_wilfong on Feb 8, 2012 2:35 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
x
Cruz and Jones submitted near-identical salaries of $7.5MM and $7.4MM, respectively. The Orioles value Jones less than the Rangers value Cruz, submitting a figure $500K below Cruz’s $5.5MM. It’s no coincidence MLB scheduled the players’ arbitration hearings for the same day, as that way a win by one can’t benefit another. Should one of the two reach an agreement soon, the salary figure might be kept under wraps until the other’s is determined. Gordon’s hearing is scheduled one day earlier, but they’re reportedly close to an agreement. The Cruz-Jones argument can be tailored either way — Cruz has more career power, but Jones is more durable and plays a premium position.
And he plays that premium position poorly.
Nellie’s the better fucking player for 2012 and it ain’t close.
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Curt Schilling on"Mike & Mike"
Said he never played with an Asian pitcher who excelled in the majors, and it’ll be a difficult transition for Yu Darvish.
One more reason for me to dislike the guy.
by RangersfaninROK on Feb 8, 2012 12:15 PM CST reply actions
Dang it....well, let's fold up camp.....
No sense in even trotting Darvish out there….Schilling has spoken…..
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
Schilling
From what I could find on Baseball Reference, he’s only played with three: Daisuke Matsuzaka, Hideki Okajima, and Byung-Hyun Kim. I seem to remember Okajima being pretty good, and Kim pitched his entire career in America, so other than being Korean, I’m not sure he fits the profile of “Asian pitcher.”
Conclusion: Curt Schilling is talking out of his ass.
"Those cocksuckers asking me if I thought we were gonna go up there and try to work his fuckin’ pitch count ‘cause he’s on three fuckin’ days rest…you know what I told those cocksuckers? He pitch ball, ball cross plate, we gonna knock the shit out of it."
- Wash
I bet it's bleeding down there
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 12:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
People don't like to give Dice-K credit for his first couple years
He was pretty damn good in the “adjustment period”
He always walked too many and his K rate has gradually declined
His first 2 years were nice, but Boston fans had a heart attack every time he was on the mound.
by dumdum000333 on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be willing to almost have a heart attack with that kind of production
He does walk too many but if not for the injuries he’d probably have been worth the investment. He’s not been a terrible pitcher in his time with Boston.
He had one good season
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by Gay For Feliz on Feb 8, 2012 12:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Only if his lips are moving
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