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Free Agent Outfielders

Who should the Rangers go after in free agency after this season?

Torii Hunter(Age-32 - AVG .294 | HR 23 | RBI 79  | OBP .336 | SLG .544
He is 32 and if this team is going young i dont know why give him a big contract

Jermaine Dye(Age-33)- AVG .242 | HR 23 | RBI 61  | OBP .302 | SLG .495
Dye is having a down year but I wouldn't mind giving him a one year contract.

Andruw Jones(Age-30)- AVG .215 | HR 21 | RBI 73  | OBP .313 | SLG .419
Terrible average but pretty good defense.

Aaron Rowand(Age-29)- AVG .316 | HR 18 | RBI 65  | OBP .388 | SLG .526  
Having a career year, so its a risk. Plays hards and good defense in CF.

Corey Patterson(Age-27)- AVG .268 | HR 5 | RBI 34  | OBP .308 | SLG .380
One thing I found about hims is that he hits left handed pitcher really well. Avg. VS. LEFT: .328. I think Patterson has the most questions offensively.

Kosuke Fukudome(Age-30)- From Japan, bats lefty.

Milton Bradley(Age-29)- AVG .329 | HR 7 | RBI 22  | OBP .421 | SLG .543
Has problem staying with one team but the talent in there. I forgot to put Mike Cameron. Mike Cameron(Age-34)- AVG .252 | HR 14 | RBI 56 | OBP .321 | SLG .435

Poll
Who should the Rangers go after in free agency after this season?
Torii Hunter
3 votes
Jermaine Dye
0 votes
Andruw Jones
4 votes
Aaron Rowand
11 votes
Corey Patterson
1 votes
Kosuke Fukudome
16 votes
Milton Bradley
2 votes
Some other OF
6 votes
Dont sign OF
4 votes

47 votes | Poll has closed

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Fukudome
"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Aug 10, 2007 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I wouldnt mind that
but it depends on the money
Johnny Douchebag: Take a freaking pitch

by coolaid on Aug 10, 2007 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Someone
will end up WAYYY over paying him...
"Do you think I am made out of money?"

by miles on Aug 10, 2007 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fukudome
is out for the year with an elbow, and may not be a free agent this offseason after all.

if he is, his value could be down, and he could be a reasonable sign.

by drilledpress on Aug 10, 2007 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Going by that...
It has to be Fukudome.  I mean, he's from Japan and bats lefty.  That's all I needed to know.
Can he swing from a web? No he can't,cause he's a pig. Look out! He is the Spider-Pig!

by LoneStarBallUser on Aug 10, 2007 6:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Its called google
but here you go..  http://tinyurl.com/2hwmef
Johnny Douchebag: Take a freaking pitch

by coolaid on Aug 10, 2007 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha
that site confused me by going Avg/Slg/OBP.  For a very brief second, I thought it said his OBP was over 600 and his SLG was around 400

by JBImaknee on Aug 10, 2007 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Japan Ball
www.japanball.com is a much better site.  He has a line of .294 avg, 13 HR's, 48 RBI's, and a .443 OBP.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Aug 10, 2007 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops
I just now realized that the tinyurl is actually a link to Japan Ball.  Sorry.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Aug 10, 2007 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

non of th above
and i'm not an expert and probably am dead wrong on these guys.  but i'd almost rather go with what the rangers have this year and hope there is a good free agent class next season (no idea who is avail). wouldn't wanna sign any of these guys to more than 3 seasons.

the byrnes contract is gonna make these guys pretty damn pricey too.

not into any of them.  if i HAD to choose one, it'd be Andrew Jones.

hunter - he's good for 22-28 homers and 15 stolen bases.  6 straight gold gloves.  put up pretty good career numbers in a  slight pitchers park. has taken advantage this year with great players in his lineup (mauer,morneau, castillo, cuddyer) and is having a career year...in a contract year.

Jermaine Dye -  i like him better than hunter, though he's 33.  can't stay on 1 team.  career year LAST year, a down year this year, but he'll still get 30 homers.  plays hitters park. he's good for 25 homers.  an average to slightly above average fielder.  other than his homers and rbi, is having a real bad year.

jones - 9 gold gloves.  not a great fielder anymore, but still an asset in the field.  as far as i can tell, atl is a neutral park.  never been 1 to hit for average, his average is abysmally low this season.  he SHOULD be good for .260/.340/.500.  30+ homers.  gets high strikeout numbers, but can talk a walk too. good enough speed to also get some doubles.

rowand - played his whole career in parks that favor hitters.  is posting career highs across the board...in a contract year.  seems to be good for 16 homers and 10 sb.  somebody is gonna jump all over his career year and overpay. until this year, his career high in walks was 32.

patterson - just no.  good for stolen bases, keep him as a pinch hitter....no.

bradley - only if he can be had for sosa money and is the 4th outfielder.

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by gossamer on Aug 10, 2007 6:29 PM CDT reply actions  

oops
for patterson i meant pinch runner
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by gossamer on Aug 10, 2007 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

honestly
id rather have lofton out there than any of those guys

by kumar75150 on Aug 10, 2007 6:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Fukodome
dont know what to compare those numbers to, and how theyd translate to the MLB.....

by slash on Aug 10, 2007 6:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Hideki Matsui
Here are stats of matsui when he was in Japan. http://tinyurl.com/26mh3k
Johnny Douchebag: Take a freaking pitch

by coolaid on Aug 10, 2007 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fukodome
Looks like he doesn't quite have Matsui's power, and doesn't walk quite as much, though he's still good at both, and appears to have a similar set of skills.

I could see him being a bit similar to Rusty Greer, which as we all know, isn't a bad player at all.

"Then I met some friends for a beer, went to a BoDeans's concert, and son of a vondruke, if I didn't leave him at the concert hall."

by RCCook on Aug 10, 2007 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

looks like he could hit
.325 or so and 20-25 HR maybe, wouldnt be bad....depends on how much he'll get paid, and he's a corner guy and 29-30, so maybe might as well go with Andruw
"I'm too God Damn Drunk to taste this Chicken" -Colonel Sanders

by slash on Aug 12, 2007 3:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bradley
This is what DJ Cahill had to say about building a winning team:
  • You overpay for Greatness
  • You promote from your farm
  • You fill in with one year contracts what you can't cover with your farm and with greatness.
I think there is a lot to be said for this approach.  Since these players are not "Greatness", nor do they come from the farm system, you then need to find a player who will accept a one year deal.  All of these players, with the exceptions of Bradley and Patterson, are on the wrong side of 30.  They will be looking to cash-in their last chance to reasonably expect a long-term deal (four to five years).  Given his injury history and his temper, I think it would be easier to convince Bradley to take a one year deal.  He is making $4 million this year, and a contract of $4.75 (or more) with bonuses based on PA's and performance.

That may be too much, but I would rather pay more over the course of one year then a decent amount over several years.  This is especially true when you consider that none of these players really fit into the long-term plans of the Rangers.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Aug 10, 2007 6:54 PM CDT reply actions  

greatness
Andruw probably isn't a good fit here, and he is in the middle of a horrible season, but I think you can make a pretty good case for him as a great player.  The last two seasons seasons he hit 51 and 41 homers, which is certainly great production from CF with a good reputation for defense.
Saltalamacchia: one player, six vowels.

by tricer on Aug 12, 2007 5:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

fit
Why isn't Andruw a good fit here?
I'm going out to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for 10 minutes!

by t ball on Aug 12, 2007 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, imo
he's not a good fit here just because we don't need to be paying top dollar to bring in a CF next year when we don't really have a shot at competing.

If we're rebuilding, we don't need to be signing any mammoth FA contracts.

As ap layer, though, Andruw is a great fit here, imo.

"Don't ever cross that hater TheDirkatron. His black heart sneers at reconciliation..." -Brian Thomas

by thedirkatron on Aug 12, 2007 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except
I don't know that you can wait until the team is ready to compete to fill all your holes.  They have to add a piece or two this offseason to take a step forward in 2008, then fill another hole or two over the course of 2008 and the next winter to compete for the playoffs in 2009.  My personal preference is for a young CF who will emerge as the team gets competitive, but Jones will still be a good player then as well is my bet.  A bit risky either way.
I'm going out to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for 10 minutes!

by t ball on Aug 13, 2007 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cameron
That's who I've suggested in every other dang diary like this one...why don't people consider him a real option?  He'll be just as good as Hunter over the next few years, but will only cost what someone of their ability should cost.

by rangeressary on Aug 10, 2007 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cameron?
Multi-year? or try and sign him to a 1-2 year deal and wait for a prospect to come up?
"I'm too God Damn Drunk to taste this Chicken" -Colonel Sanders

by slash on Aug 12, 2007 3:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cameron
I'd want him on no more than a 2yr deal, I'm guessing it would take 3
Spider pig, Spider pig does whatever a spider pig does

by rentz on Aug 12, 2007 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Forgive my redundance
But we went from a .223 to a .308.

First option, lets use that ammo to trade for an outfielder.

It doesn't have to be a CFer, athough that would be ideal. I don't think its unreachable.

If we could land a stud young corner boy (props to the Wire), that would be almost as good. We could live w/ byrd or Murph or even kenny part deux if we could score a quad-tooler at a corner.

That's the way to go. FA this year is a 4 to 1 losing proposition, in my middling baseball mind.

Maybe my metaphor is wrong, though. Perhaps we dumped this:

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=393

And popped this bad boy in:

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=394

Chris Young. It could happen...

I will not get my comeuppance!

by Brian Thomas on Aug 10, 2007 7:48 PM CDT reply actions  

in a militia?
Al Gore 2008 http://www.myspace.com/igotsculture

by gossamer on Aug 10, 2007 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh Fuck!
A liberal with a 100 round mag!!!
You're hijacking the thread and being repetitive. Move forward.

by Rodney on Aug 10, 2007 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Libertarian
Much more to reckon with...
I will not get my comeuppance!

by Brian Thomas on Aug 10, 2007 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

hehe...
;-)
You're hijacking the thread and being repetitive. Move forward.

by Rodney on Aug 11, 2007 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where the hell did this come from?
?
"I'm too God Damn Drunk to taste this Chicken" -Colonel Sanders

by slash on Aug 12, 2007 3:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like the idea, but...
Arizona isn't trading Chris Young.  No way in hell.

They are a young team that is winning their division and next season will be expected to be even better.  Why would they trade an emerging star, who is also a young cornerstone of their lineup?  Their lineup is pretty much stacked with talented young players, so the only way to get them interested would be to offer quality ML ready pitching, which is one thing to we can't afford to trade.

I saw you throw out some names in another thread like Duran (he'd be blocked by O. Hudson), Laird (backup catcher), and minor league arms (contending caliber team don't normally trade young everyday players for A/AA arms).  I don't see how any combination of our tradable assets would even be the slightest bit tempting for Arizona to give up Chris Young.

I'm like you in that I'd love to have him, but short of an offer like McCarthy, Gabbard, and CJ I don't see much that we have that would be tempting to them.

Saltalamacchia: one player, six vowels.

by tricer on Aug 12, 2007 5:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the reason I mention Young is obvious
He is one of the few stud young outfielders that a team could afford to trade. Upton, Byrnes, Gonzalez, Quenton (sp)...they wouldn't miss him much. He's like Teagarden is for us (only better, obviously), a talented young player at a position that is overstocked. B/c of that, TT may be more valuable for what he could bring back than how he could perform for us.

I was just throwing it out there as an alternative to pursuing Torii Hunter. I didn't check the dbacks roster to assess their needs.

I also think it is a little early to write Laird off as a backup. He's hit like it this year, sure, but he's shown potential, and I'd be surprised if there aren't a few teams out there who would be interested in him as a starter. I could be wrong, I guess.

I probably am dreaming when it comes to Young, but I think the best way to acquire premium talent is to find a team who is heavy in the area you're after. Take John Meloan, for example. On the Dbacks, he's a much more precious commodity than he is for the Dodgers.

Its easier to trade a Meloan when you have a Billingsley, Broxton, and Kershaw, just like it's easier to trade Chris Young when you have Upton and Gonzalez.

I will not get my comeuppance!

by Brian Thomas on Aug 12, 2007 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

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