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Ramifications of the Soriano trade

So the deal is apparently Soriano for Wilkerson, Sledge, and minor league pitcher Armando Galarraga (who should come over once the Rule 5 draft is over).

I know there are people bitching about this deal, complaining that the Rangers shouldn't have traded Soriano without getting pitching in return.  Those people are idiots.

I love this trade, as I've made clear.  Wilkerson is a better player than Soriano -- they are about even offensively, but Wilkerson:

 * is much more of an asset defensively,
 * will make about $4.5-5 million in 2006, versus the $10 million Soriano will get,
 * is two years away from free agency, versus one year for Soriano, and
 * is a year younger than Soriano.

Wilkerson can play any of the three outfield positions, and will fill either the gaping right field hole or the almost-gaping centerfield hole, representing a big upgrade to one of those positions.

Meanwhile, you have Ian Kinsler -- who Will Carroll said today would be one of the 5 best prospects in baseball next season -- ready to step in at second base, where his overall contributions, factoring in both offense and defense, should be pretty close to what Soriano would provide.  Part of the reason Soriano needed to be dealt was to make room for Ian Kinsler, who folks have referred to as a Mike Young Starter Kit.  

You've got Terrmel Sledge, sort of a lefty Kevin Mench in terms of his skill set.  With him here, you've got all sorts of options available in the outfield and DH slots.  You can put Mench in left, Wilkerson in center, let Sledge and GMJ split time in right, let Dellucci and Botts DH, and let Nix get a full season at AAA.  You can trade Mench for pitching, put Wilkerson in the outfield, and let Sledge, Nix, GMJ, Botts and Dellucci fill the other two outfield slots and the DH spot.  You can trade GMJ to the Yanks for...I don't know, something, and let Sledge be the 4th outfielder.  You can trade Dellucci to one of the various teams that have expressed interest in him, make Botts your regular DH, and let Sledge take over the lefty-hitting 4th outfielder role Dellucci would fill.

Or you could get really creative and aggressive, spend some of the money you are saving by not paying Soriano on Milton Bradley, trade Mench for pitching, and roll with a Wilkerson/Bradley/Nix outfield, which would give you one of the best defensive outfields in baseball, along with pretty solid offense from them as a group.

You've got all those options, and on top of that, and you still have Adrian Gonzalez and Kevin Mench available to use as trading chits for a deal for pitching, if you want.  And you've added another good young live arm to the farm system, as well.  You've got a lot of ammunition left with which to make a deal for pitching.

And on top of everything else, you are paying Wilkerson about $5 million less than you would be paying Soriano for 2006, meaning you've got that much more in the budget to spend on the free agent market.

So while the Soriano trade didn't bring pitching in here directly, it gives you the freedom to make other moves to add pitching, and it frees up additional payroll room to spend money on pitching.

Outstanding deal.  Great job by Jon Daniels.  I give this trade an "A".

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Bradley
Supposedly will be traded or non-tendered by the Dodgers.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 8, 2005 12:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wilkerson=Soriano, Offensively???
11 HR, 57 RBI, .248 AVG, 147 K, .351 OBP, .756 OPS, .405 SLG

Am I missing something?

by Texasportsfan on Dec 8, 2005 8:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes
Sori in an extreme offensive park, Sledge in an extreme pitchers park.

by jf55510 on Dec 8, 2005 9:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I
I love this trade as well.  I would have done Sori straight up for Wilkerson.  Getting Sledge and Galaragga is just gravy.  Now, it is time for JD to get creative and use this excess of OF/DH candidates and bring in some pitching.

by jf55510 on Dec 8, 2005 12:26 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Dude
You mean "Ramifications of the SORIANO Trade"

Wahw, you just gave me whiplash...

by hightowersmith on Dec 8, 2005 12:28 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

same here...
"Ramifications of the Mench trade"

A Freudian slip?

For a second, I thought to myself, "Holy crap, we've traded Mench too!"

by Rangersfan22 on Dec 8, 2005 12:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oops...
Sorry...I've fixed now...

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 8, 2005 12:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wilkerson's health?
His 2005 boo-boos ... nothing chronic I hope?  Loves me some BW if he can revisit his 2004 level.  

And finally Kinsler sees the door to the Show open.  Kewl biz all around.  

by shroomer on Dec 8, 2005 12:31 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Question about Salary?
Okay so in 2006.  How much of Arod's salary are we still paying?

I mean say we never traded AROD we would be paying him what $20 million.

Now, we are paying the following (or projected for 2006):

AROD  -  ?
Soriano - None
Wilkerson - $4 million (projected)
Sledge   - $500K (projected)
Galaragge - ?

So maybe we are looking at $5 million (not including any AROD salary pickup)...wow that is an approximate $15 million savings.

I will say that no matter what at this point, the Rangers have gotten out from underneath that horrible AROD contract (notwithstanding his MVP type play).

I guess a follow-up....

What have we done with that savings? just lowered our payroll, i know that is a big part of the answer

by simbaa on Dec 8, 2005 12:32 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Salary Comparison 2003 vs 2005
I was curious, so I did some research and using these links:

2003 Rangers: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TEX/2003.shtml

2005 Rangers: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TEX/2005.shtml

I was able to get salaries and breakdown by areas and see where the money went.

For 2003 the total payroll was $94,027,500.  For 2005 the total team payroll was $60,877,500.  A difference of $33,150,000 or a 35% decrease.

Now going by groupings.

Starting 9 (including DH):

2003 : $56,782,500
E. Diaz, Big Tex, Young, AROD, Blalock, J. Gonzalez, Everett, Mench, and Palmeiro

2005:  23,695,000
Barajas, Big Tex, Soriano, Young, Blalock, Hidalgo, Mathews, Mench, Delluci

That is a decrease of $33,087,500

Pitching (5 Starters, 5 Relievers, and 1 Closer)

2003:  $30,655,000
Park, Valdez, Thomson, Lewis, Callaway, Powell, Van Poppell, Yan, Fultz, Cordero, Urbina

2005:  $32,967,500
Rogers, Park, Benoit, Drese, Young, Karsay, Almanzar, Brocail, Mahay, Shouse, Cordero

That is an increase of $2,312,500

Rest of Team

2003:  $6,590,000
Perry, Greene, Krueter, Sierra, Spencer, Lamb, Glanville, Clark, Garcia, Nitkowski

2005:  $4,215,000
Alomar, DeRosa, Allen, Gonzalez, Astacio, Dickey, Ramirez, Riley, Buckvich, Regilio

A Decrease of $2,375,000

Our pitching staff as a whole stayed even in salary.  Our savings was complete in the starting 9.  Most of that was savings in not having AROD, Juan Gonzalez, Everett, and Palmeiro.  In 2003 the three of Big Tex, Young, and Blalock earned $1.5 million, in 2005 that was $7 million.

Does this tell us anything.  I am not sure but it is interesting and even more interesting to note that the only real decrease in payroll occurred on the hitting side.  Of course when you have Chan Ho on both teams with that salay it does hurt. Think about this, Chan Ho earned about 40% of the pitching staff (5 starters, 5 relievers, and 1 closers) salary in 2003 and a whopping 49% of that groups in 2005.  Wow, a ton to invest in one guy (unless his name is maybe Clemens).

by simbaa on Dec 8, 2005 1:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

AJM
what does BA say about Galarraga? I see he is #5 for the Nats this year...

by Longhorn on Dec 8, 2005 12:37 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

BA on Galarraga
Background: Because of 2002 Tommy John surgery, Galarraga pitched just 54 innings in his first three seasons in the United States. He stayed healthier once he began to take baseball more seriously in 2004, and he had his best year yet in 2005, earning a berth in the Futures Game and a promotion to Double-A.

Strengths:
Galarraga has a lively 92-94 mph sinker and a hard, sharp slider that he can throw for strikes and use as an out pitch. He has a strong, athletic frame and attacks hitters from a three-quarters arm slot. He's very competitive and shows a mean streak.
    Weaknesses:
For Galarraga to stick as a starter, he needs to complement his two plus offerings with a third pitch. He must continue to develop his changeup, which shows some promise. He doesn't walk many batters but sometimes misses his spots inside the zone.
    The Future:
Galarraga can be a No. 3 starter if his changeup emerges. If that doesn't work out, he could be a powerful bullpen arm. He figures to start 2006 back at Harrisburg but could earn a big league promotion late in 2006.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 8, 2005 12:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would LOVE to see Bradley here
I'm glad to see that the diary posted here earlier (http://www.lonestarball.com/story/2005/12/7/151336/451) about Bradley going to the Cubs for Walker appears to be wrong.

Make it happen, baby.

by alon91 on Dec 8, 2005 12:39 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

This is AWESOME
Oh my god. This is SUCH a good deal that it buys Jon Daniels my lee-way for a year (well, ok, 6 months :p).

As to starting pitching, who CARES? There's such a low possibility of the Rangers competing in 2006 (what with the free agent chaff left out there) that I don't care about getting "major league ready" pitching if it's Lohse-like. And frankly the Beckett-like ones are going to cost an arm and a leg to get even with only 2 years left until he leaves.

This is a MUCH better deal, IMO.

Req

by Requiem on Dec 8, 2005 2:36 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

ok
I'm trying not to be too negative about this. Because we have Kinsler (until he is traded)

by Sharky on Dec 8, 2005 5:27 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Rangers ESPN board
I went there and didn't recognize 10% of the names that had started posts..granted the Soriano trade brought new people, but still amazing.

Just a comment..placed here because of the 300 word requirment

by Sharky on Dec 8, 2005 5:30 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wilkerson
Can also bat leadoff.  If he can return to his 2003-2004 form, while playing centerfield, he'll be better and more valuable than Soriano in just about every way, and at a cheaper price.

by Ian Cobb on Dec 8, 2005 8:32 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wilkerson=Soriano, Offensively????
11 HR, 57 RBI, .248 AVG, 147 K, .351 OBP, .756 OPS, .405 SLG

Am I missing something?

by Texasportsfan on Dec 8, 2005 8:40 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Injuries
I guess that accounted for the drop in HR and RBI. I guess health and the ballpark will make up for that drop. His OBP and OPS looks okay.

by Texasportsfan on Dec 8, 2005 8:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes you are
First of all, you picked out Wilkerson's worst season as a comparison.  Granted, it was the most recent but that is hardly a fair representation of his ability.  He was also battling some injuries in 2005 that hurt his numbers.  Hopefully that won't be a problem once he gets here but there is a chance that it will.  

The big thing of course is the park they play in.  If you look at their road numbers from the last 2 years Wilkerson was much better:  

2005
Wilkerson road OPS = .751
Soriano road OPS = .639

2004
Wilkerson road OPS = .857
Soriano road OPS = .735

by Chris Martin on Dec 8, 2005 9:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wilkerson
"First of all, you picked out Wilkerson's worst season as a comparison."

And you picked out his only good year. Not that he has much to choose from.

"I was so successful in [social engineering] that I rarely had to resort to a technical attack," Mitnick

by Andrew F Medina on Dec 8, 2005 3:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I also picked 2005.....
Which was his worst season and it is still better than Soriano has been since he has been with the Rangers.  

by Chris Martin on Dec 8, 2005 3:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not too sure about the trade
Adam, I have read this site for a while, and believe that you are very knowledgeable about the Rangers and baseball.  But, I do not understand how trading on of the premier players in the league for Wilkerson, who had numerous injuries and career lows last year, Sledge, who had a very major injury last year, and some unproven pitcher is considered to be a great trade.  I do realize that we basically had no choice but to get rid of Soriano, but why not get at least a pitcher with some credentials in the league?  This trade does not improve the pitching staff, and makes perhaps the Rangers deepest position even deeper.  I am not convinced that Ian Kinsler will come in and light up the league, although I hope he will.  We tried that with Nix and Laird recently, and it was not that productive.  I believe we should have kept Soriano until June and July when teams are desperately looking for a big bat, and are a little more generous with what they will give in return.  Maybe I am just not seeing something else that is going to follow this, i.e. another big trade.  So, let me know if you have anything so I can better understand this deal.

by pwh9980 on Dec 8, 2005 9:13 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I agree...kind of
Knowing that we were going to be losing Soriano at some point this season I was ok with this deal since we would be getting Wilkerson in return. But if he comes in and puts up those same numbers not only did our lineup get weaker but we have nothing to show for it with pitching.
Personally, I loved watching Soriano pop his jersey 36 times a year. It made me smile. Oh well

Anyway, we still need pitching. I say Clemens and Morris would be acceptable.

by DIESCTBRS on Dec 8, 2005 9:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Soriano is premier
Only from a spectator or PR point of view. Spectacular, but not really very good. Great power hitter, but with awful plate discipline and a liability on defense.  Without his Yankee hype and national press following, he is less than perceived.  I'll never EVER know how he led an AllStar ballot, but that's another issue.

Sori is a very talented guy who doesn't apply it very well.  The Rangers got back two guys who are literally better offensive and defensive players and a pitcher who may amount to something.  

Beyond that, any assessment is only fan appeal.

by Ed Coffin on Dec 8, 2005 2:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm totally lost
I totally disagree with the statement that Wilkerson is as good as Soriano.  I would go so far as to say that Wilkerson is a below average OF at the least valuable position on the team. He is a dime-a-dozen player and Soriano put up the best numbers in the AL at second base, a notoriously unpowerful position.    
And on the defense, I'm going to go out on a limb here but is it that important?  I mean how many games per season are won or lost on defense per team?  Maybe a couple.  And these guys are professionals.  Its not like there is a HUGE difference unless a player suddenly goes Knoblauch.  Ozzie Smith, the greatest fielding short stop ever averaged 15 errors per season over his career.  Soriano averages 20 per season.  A difference of 5 droppoed pop ups.  

But what is relevant here is that we are talking about batters again!  Who cares.  It's the pitching!  Its always been the pitching!  You can have the Yankees 'Murderers Row' and your still going to wind up in the cellar if your starting rotation is Padilla, Chris Young, Kameron Loe and Juan Dominguez.  The Braves have won 15 of the last 16 penants and you can barely name any of their batters during that time period.  

There's 4 teams in the division and we have only made the playoffs twice in 30 years (I know there use to be more than 4 back in the day.)  There's something broke in Texas.  But it is never addressed.  The solution is always another outfielder.  

So noone will trade an ace without wanting Tex, Blalock, Young or Soriano?  So trade them.  Trade em all.  Get a freekin pitcher, or even get 2!  Build around that. Sure it will be sad to see them go, but do you want to watch homeruns or win a penant?  

No pitchers will come to Texas?  Move the fences 10 feet back.  Hell move them 40 feet.  Change the name from "Ameriquest Field" to "Hummers for Pitchers Park."    Just get some freekin pitching.  That's all that matters - its the pitching!!!  Why won't that ever be addressed in Texas?  I had the same conversations in 1985!  It's not a secret, everyone knows it so why can't it be fixed damn it!  AAAAAhhhhhh.      

And don't forget that Texeira's agent is Boras who should not be allowed to ever play with Hicks again after the Arod deal.  

no

by rocky on Dec 16, 2005 5:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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