An idle Chris Young observation
Chris Young had a DIPS ERA of 4.50 last season.
That means that, based on his peripherals (K rate, walk rate, homer rate), he would be expected to have posted a 4.50 ERA last season. That would have been the equivalent, pitching for San Diego last year, of a 94 ERA+.
His actual ERA, of course, was 3.46, which gave him a DIPS% (DIPS ERA/regular ERA) of 1.30, the highest DIPS% in baseball last year.
This shouldn't necessarily be surprising...San Diego had the best team Defensive Efficiency Rating in baseball last year, finishing ahead of second place Detroit.
And Young, as an extreme flyball pitcher, especially benefitted from the Padres' outfield defense...Chris Dial's Probabilistic Modeling ranked Dave Roberts and Brian Giles as the best defensive left fielder and right fielder, respectively, in the N.L. last year, while Mike Cameron was among the top centerfielders. Not surprising, since Giles was (as Dial points out) a pretty good defensive centerfielder just a couple of years ago, while Roberts is a centerfielder who was playing left field because of the defensively superior Cameron manning center.
So Young's outstanding 2006 season, with an ERA of 3.46 and an ERA+ of 122, is even more context-driven than usual. Remarkably, despite moving to a weaker league, and a pitcher's park, in the league where he didn't have to face a DH, Young's walk rate and strikeout rate both got worse, and his homer rate went up.
But Young's ERA dropped by .80 because in 2005, playing in front of a mediocre at best defensive outfield, he allowed 161 non-homer hits in 196 2/3 IP, while in 2006, playing in front of the best defensive outfield in baseball, he allowed 108 non-homer hits in 211 2/3 innings. That's a drop from a rate of .818 non-homer hits per inning in 2005 to .510 non-homer hits per inning in 2006.
The change in extra base hits highlights that even more...Young allowed just 25 doubles and triples in 2006, an incredibly low amount, particularly compared to his 28 homers allowed. No other major league pitcher allowed fewer doubles than homers last year, much less doubles and triples combined.
Young allowed just 20 doubles last season...only one other qualifying pitcher allowed less than 30 last season, and that pitcher, Scott Olsen, allowed 28.
That is the second lowest total since 2001 (Kerry Wood allowed just 17 doubles in 2001), and the only pitchers to come close to that since then are Johan Santana in 2004, who allowed 22 doubles, and Brandon Webb and Kevin Brown in 2003, allowing 22 and 21, respectively.
And it is completely at odds with his 2005 performance, when Young allowed 36 doubles and 3 triples against just 19 homers.
So after allowing just over twice as many doubles and triples in 2005 as he did homers, Young then allows fewer doubles and triples than homers in 2006 (the only pitcher in the majors to do so), while playing in front of the best defensive outfield in baseball, and posts a much better ERA than anyone expected.
That's huge. And that is, most likely, not a reflection of some change in ability by Young...rather, it is a change in who Young is pitching in front of.
And it also suggests that, had Young pitched for the Rangers in 2006, he'd have posted a much different ERA+ than the 122 he put up in San Diego.
Let me conclude this by saying that this isn't offered as a defense of the Awful Adam Eaton trade, or a justification for the Rangers letting Young go. I'd feel much better if Chris Young were still here, and in the 2007 rotation.
But I think it is also important to point out that, had Young stayed in Texas rather than going to San Diego, it is extremely unlikely that he would have done as well -- even park- and league-adjusted -- as he did for the Padres.
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Great post, Adam
Some good
Been at
by Brett Perryman on Dec 27, 2006 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
Good to see you...
crytonomicon
In my top 5 all-time books
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 27, 2006 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
Cryptonomicon
I'll have to check it out.
If you are a fan of that sort of stuff...
Ben calls it "nerd fiction," because there's some heavy technical content and the like.
It is easier to follow certain parts of the book if you are familiar with some of the technical parts -- number theory, engineering, programming -- but even if you aren't (and I'm clueless about some of the technical fields that it dwells on) it is still an excellent read.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 27, 2006 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
William Gibson
I read it earlier this year
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 27, 2006 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
The length of it has kept me away for now.
I am looking forward to the swashbuckling style and to see how he might imagine notable historical scientists interacting. In that regard, I wonder how it will compare with Steve Martin's play Picasso at the Lapin Agile in which he imagines a meeting between Picasso and Einstein.
Well, I feel sorry for him, but...
A great technical introduction to stats/prob is at Vassar College.
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Multivariate Statistical Analysis: A Conceptual Introduction by Sam "Kash" Kachigan
It's a very well written and readable introduction to the topic that I read for a class in grad school. An excellent, challenging, and interesting intoduction to the topic.
Very true....
As it was, we pretty much just gave him and A Gonzalez away....
Req
OF Defense
by Dustin on Dec 27, 2006 8:49 PM CST reply actions
As the saying goes....
It certainly would at TBIA
It's why I would be ok with a soft hit, great fielding center fielder if we could only find one available...too bad they couldn't have gotten Brian Anderson thrown in the Danks trade.
Lofton can cover ground
Still, could be better
MY has improved his defense
The OF defense may be a pleasant surprise. Wilk was a pretty decent CF in a big park in Washington, so if he's healthy in left & Fast Freddie sticks as the reserve OF, at least defensively we should be OK.....Cruz still needs to hit!
Nice...
Some Ranger DIPS
Padilla had a DIPS of 4.22, DIPS% of 0.94. Benoit was very unlucky, with a DIPS% of 0.67.
Luckier were Otsuka, with a DIPS% of 1.37; and Littleton, with a DIPS% of 2.56.
David Young?
I was surfing the foxsports website and they had pictures of the 2006 baseball season. Well here is one:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/pgStory?contentId=6303698&pageNumber=19
Yes of DAVID YOUNG, of the RAngers....you know the guy that plays SS for us, the MVP of the ASG, one of our main players, yes that DAVID YOUNG. Nice to know that DAVID YOUNG gets his due.
Haha
They would not be caught dead saying "Davis Jeter".
You lost me at DIPS
by LoneStarBallUser on Dec 27, 2006 9:27 PM CST reply actions
Current outfield D
I heard Cruz's name mentioned for CF, as was Wilk. Now they're in the corners, and Lofton is in CF. It would appear the corners at least are covered...
So, what would be great, then,
How much would that be worth to the Rangers? It would be necessary to know that Andruw would sign an extension, but, assuming that, how much could the Rangers give up before it was irreperably harmful to either the current team or the 5-year plan or both?
The Braves want players who they could control. I don't think the Rangers have enough pitching prospects anymore to equal the pitching talent in the Sheffield trade. If they use an OF as part of the package, I'm certain the Braves would prefer Cruz to Wilkerson. I don't think the Rangers could get a deal done with what they have.
This isn't a freaking fantasy team...
First of all, its a one year rental for a player... He won't resign.
Second, do you know what it would take to get him here?
Thats about the most simple way of saying no way in hell that deal is happening, nor would I want it to.
I don't know what it will take to get him here.
If the Rangers put 5/80 on the table as an extension, would that be enough? Or, would they have to go for a Wells/Beltran contract?
That type of contract, plus prospects is alot. But, with Cruz in RF, Andruw in CF, the rotation filled with Millwood, Padilla, McCarthy, Tejeda, and the bullpen as young as it is, what will the Rangers need to graduate to the majors over the next few years? Might it be worth it to think about to figure out at what point Andruw is too expensive?
wow
haha
by Dustin on Dec 28, 2006 1:55 PM CST up reply actions

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