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An idle Chris Young observation

Chris Young had a DIPS ERA of 4.50 last season.  

That means that, based on his peripherals (K rate, walk rate, homer rate), he would be expected to have posted a 4.50 ERA last season.  That would have been the equivalent, pitching for San Diego last year, of a 94 ERA+.

His actual ERA, of course, was 3.46, which gave him a DIPS% (DIPS ERA/regular ERA) of 1.30, the highest DIPS% in baseball last year.  

This shouldn't necessarily be surprising...San Diego had the best team Defensive Efficiency Rating in baseball last year, finishing ahead of second place Detroit.

And Young, as an extreme flyball pitcher, especially benefitted from the Padres' outfield defense...Chris Dial's Probabilistic Modeling ranked Dave Roberts and Brian Giles as the best defensive left fielder and right fielder, respectively, in the N.L. last year, while Mike Cameron was among the top centerfielders.  Not surprising, since Giles was (as Dial points out) a pretty good defensive centerfielder just a couple of years ago, while Roberts is a centerfielder who was playing left field because of the defensively superior Cameron manning center.

So Young's outstanding 2006 season, with an ERA of 3.46 and an ERA+ of 122, is even more context-driven than usual.  Remarkably, despite moving to a weaker league, and a pitcher's park, in the league where he didn't have to face a DH, Young's walk rate and strikeout rate both got worse, and his homer rate went up.  

But Young's ERA dropped by .80 because in 2005, playing in front of a mediocre at best defensive outfield, he allowed 161 non-homer hits in 196 2/3 IP, while in 2006, playing in front of the best defensive outfield in baseball, he allowed 108 non-homer hits in 211 2/3 innings.  That's a drop from a rate of .818 non-homer hits per inning in 2005 to .510 non-homer hits per inning in 2006.

The change in extra base hits highlights that even more...Young allowed just 25 doubles and triples in 2006, an incredibly low amount, particularly compared to his 28 homers allowed.  No other major league pitcher allowed fewer doubles than homers last year, much less doubles and triples combined.

Young allowed just 20 doubles last season...only one other qualifying pitcher allowed less than 30 last season, and that pitcher, Scott Olsen, allowed 28.

That is the second lowest total since 2001 (Kerry Wood allowed just 17 doubles in 2001), and the only pitchers to come close to that since then are Johan Santana in 2004, who allowed 22 doubles, and Brandon Webb and Kevin Brown in 2003, allowing 22 and 21, respectively.

And it is completely at odds with his 2005 performance, when Young allowed 36 doubles and 3 triples against just 19 homers.

So after allowing just over twice as many doubles and triples in 2005 as he did homers, Young then allows fewer doubles and triples than homers in 2006 (the only pitcher in the majors to do so), while playing in front of the best defensive outfield in baseball, and posts a much better ERA than anyone expected.

That's huge.  And that is, most likely, not a reflection of some change in ability by Young...rather, it is a change in who Young is pitching in front of.

And it also suggests that, had Young pitched for the Rangers in 2006, he'd have posted a much different ERA+ than the 122 he put up in San Diego.

Let me conclude this by saying that this isn't offered as a defense of the Awful Adam Eaton trade, or a justification for the Rangers letting Young go.  I'd feel much better if Chris Young were still here, and in the 2007 rotation.

But I think it is also important to point out that, had Young stayed in Texas rather than going to San Diego, it is extremely unlikely that he would have done as well -- even park- and league-adjusted -- as he did for the Padres.

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Great post, Adam
Does this mean that Woody Williams will have about a 6.00 ERA this year in Houston?

by mdickson on Dec 27, 2006 8:21 PM CST reply actions  

Some good
stuff Adam, and I think all of us knew that Chris Young wouldn't have been SD's Chris Young in Texas. That said, giving up 5 years of a cheap, league-average pitcher (which I believe he would have been in Texas)is still a tough pill to swallow.

by FirebatM3 on Dec 27, 2006 8:21 PM CST reply actions  

Hey Z
where have you been? Aren't you suppose to be helping Adam keep the blog up-to-date?

by FirebatM3 on Dec 27, 2006 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Been at
parents' house for like six days and didn't manage much computer time. FWIW, Adam doesn't tend to need much help most of the time keeping things up to date.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 27, 2006 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Good to see you...
diddling your slide rule.  Now I'm off to go read some fiction that includes integrals, graphs, and cryptography.

by benmor78 on Dec 27, 2006 8:32 PM CST reply actions  

crytonomicon
The guy on the plane next to me last night was reading that. Seemed really wrapped up in it. Is it worth checking out?
John Danks for Cy Young in 2012.

by trza on Dec 27, 2006 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

In my top 5 all-time books
Just got done re-reading it, and I think it might be #1.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 27, 2006 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Cryptonomicon
I just read a synopsis of the book on Amazon, and it looks pretty damn cool. I'm a big fan of crytography, especially the efforts of the Bletchley Park team to crack the Enigma machine.

I'll have to check it out.

by RCCook on Dec 27, 2006 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

If you are a fan of that sort of stuff...
...then definitely check it out...

Ben calls it "nerd fiction," because there's some heavy technical content and the like.

It is easier to follow certain parts of the book if you are familiar with some of the technical parts -- number theory, engineering, programming -- but even if you aren't (and I'm clueless about some of the technical fields that it dwells on) it is still an excellent read.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 27, 2006 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

William Gibson
Even though you didn't like Neuromancer, Adam, you should check out Pattern Recognition...pretty imaginative concept.
Your Texas Rangers...laying the foundation for 2007, in a winnable AL West. Never thought I'd say that!

by RangerMoto on Dec 28, 2006 12:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Not yet...
I've been at work most of the week, getting extra hours.

by benmor78 on Dec 27, 2006 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I read it earlier this year
It was frustrating.  Okay, but overly long, and not as good as Cryptonomicon.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 27, 2006 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

The length of it has kept me away for now.
I sometimes end up putting everything else in my life on hold when I start a book.  His work is complex enough that I thought I might end up putting  things on hold for a very long time.

I am looking forward to the swashbuckling style and to see how he might imagine notable historical scientists interacting.  In that regard, I wonder how it will compare with Steve Martin's play Picasso at the Lapin Agile in which he imagines a meeting between Picasso and Einstein.

by rooster on Dec 27, 2006 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I got him...
Prob/Stat and Ordinary Differential Equations textbooks for Christmas.

by benmor78 on Dec 27, 2006 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, I feel sorry for him, but...
A great non-technical stats/prob book is Probability, Statistics, and Truth by Richard von Mises.

A great technical introduction to stats/prob is at Vassar College.

by rooster on Dec 27, 2006 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

stats
I'm a big fan of this one:

Multivariate Statistical Analysis: A Conceptual Introduction by Sam "Kash" Kachigan

It's a very well written and readable introduction to the topic that I read for a class in grad school. An excellent, challenging, and interesting intoduction to the topic.

CJ Wilson for Cy Young in 2012.

by trza on Dec 27, 2006 11:32 PM CST up reply actions  

rooster
Thanks for your recs as well. I may have to look for the first one at Half Price. The second is already bookmarked.
CJ Wilson for Cy Young in 2012.

by trza on Dec 27, 2006 11:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Very true....
This is the reason why, though I hated the Eaton/Young trade, that I would have been okay with dealing Young for the RIGHT deal.

As it was, we pretty much just gave him and A Gonzalez away....

Req

by Requiem on Dec 27, 2006 8:35 PM CST reply actions  

OF Defense
People have always laughed at me when I suggested a truly great OF defense would make a huge difference.    
http://tinyurl.com/vxkvz

by Dustin on Dec 27, 2006 8:49 PM CST reply actions  

As the saying goes....
Pitching and defense is what wins games.

by Bigfan16 on Dec 27, 2006 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

It certainly would at TBIA
I remember Melvin talking about this stuff back when he first came on.

It's why I would be ok with a soft hit, great fielding center fielder if we could only find one available...too bad they couldn't have gotten Brian Anderson thrown in the Danks trade.

by t ball on Dec 27, 2006 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Lofton can cover ground
and may define soft hitting.  I like him in CF this year and let's see what happens with Wilky and Cruz in the corner OF's.  I still believe that MY can improve his defense at SS and Kinsler holds his own at 2B.  That is actually fairly good defensively.

by Bigfan16 on Dec 27, 2006 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Still, could be better
Lofton, Young, and Kinsler are probably about average all told.  Cruz seems to have wheels, so might be a plus.  If the pitching settles in this year, maybe the big target for '08 can be Andruw Jones.

by t ball on Dec 27, 2006 9:08 PM CST up reply actions  

MY has improved his defense
quite a bit the last 2 years & Washington can only help he, Hank & Kinsler.
The OF defense may be a pleasant surprise. Wilk was a pretty decent CF in a big park in Washington, so if he's healthy in left & Fast Freddie sticks as the reserve OF, at least defensively we should be OK.....Cruz still needs to hit!

by tklawless on Dec 28, 2006 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice...
analysis Adam. Everyone knows this already, but while on a trip last year, I went to a Padres game. It was in July. I had to buy a sweat shirt at the park because it was jacket weather. I don't know how much it helped, but the concentration level needed for pitching must be easier in that climate.

by 3Bagger on Dec 27, 2006 8:55 PM CST reply actions  

Some Ranger DIPS
For what it's worth, Millwood's DIPS ERA last year was 3.83, with a DIPS% of 0.85.

Padilla had a DIPS of 4.22, DIPS% of 0.94.  Benoit was very unlucky, with a DIPS% of 0.67.

Luckier were Otsuka, with a DIPS% of 1.37; and Littleton, with a DIPS% of 2.56.

by t ball on Dec 27, 2006 9:19 PM CST reply actions  

David Young?
I did not want to make a diary out of this becuase honestly I do not think it deserves one and really no place to put this so it goes here, becuase this is the most recent diary.

I was surfing the foxsports website and they had pictures of the 2006 baseball season.  Well here is one:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/pgStory?contentId=6303698&pageNumber=19

Yes of DAVID YOUNG, of the RAngers....you know the guy that plays SS for us, the MVP of the ASG, one of our main players, yes that DAVID YOUNG.  Nice to know that DAVID YOUNG gets his due.

by simbaa on Dec 27, 2006 9:22 PM CST reply actions  

Haha
Shows you how much the Rangers get respect out of the media...

They would not be caught dead saying "Davis Jeter".

"Twenty wins and a Cy Young, I guess. Less than 50 home runs allowed? Something like that. I'll stick with 20 wins -- that would be nice to get."-BMac

by miles on Dec 27, 2006 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

You lost me at DIPS
Even BP thinks that stat is full of crap.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

by LoneStarBallUser on Dec 27, 2006 9:27 PM CST reply actions  

Current outfield D
How bad is our upcoming outfield defensively, actually?

I heard Cruz's name mentioned for CF, as was Wilk.  Now they're in the corners, and Lofton is in CF.  It would appear the corners at least are covered...

by hightowersmith on Dec 27, 2006 9:28 PM CST reply actions  

So, what would be great, then,
is if JD could work a deal for Andruw.  Go ahead and roll your eyes at that stale rumor.  Or, just imagine how great it would be to have Andruw in CF and Lofton in LF with Andruw in the #5 spot.  Great defense.  Improved offense.  Sounds like a winning combination.

How much would that be worth to the Rangers?  It would be necessary to know that Andruw would sign an extension, but, assuming that, how much could the Rangers give up before it was irreperably harmful to either the current team or the 5-year plan or both?

The Braves want players who they could control.  I don't think the Rangers have enough pitching prospects anymore to equal the pitching talent in the Sheffield trade.  If they use an OF as part of the package, I'm certain the Braves would prefer Cruz to Wilkerson.  I don't think the Rangers could get a deal done with what they have.

by rooster on Dec 27, 2006 10:56 PM CST reply actions  

This isn't a freaking fantasy team...
Yall don't get it.  

First of all, its a one year rental for a player...  He won't resign.

Second, do you know what it would take to get him here?

Thats about the most simple way of saying no way in hell that deal is happening, nor would I want it to.

"Twenty wins and a Cy Young, I guess. Less than 50 home runs allowed? Something like that. I'll stick with 20 wins -- that would be nice to get."-BMac

by miles on Dec 27, 2006 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know what it will take to get him here.
That's why I asked.  I'm interested to see if anyone thinks the Rangers have what it would take to get him.  He would be a perfect fit.

If the Rangers put 5/80 on the table as an extension, would that be enough?  Or, would they have to go for a Wells/Beltran contract?

That type of contract, plus prospects is alot.  But, with Cruz in RF, Andruw in CF, the rotation filled with Millwood, Padilla, McCarthy, Tejeda, and the bullpen as young as it is, what will the Rangers need to graduate to the majors over the next few years?  Might it be worth it to think about to figure out at what point Andruw is too expensive?

by rooster on Dec 28, 2006 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

wow
Thanks for pointing that out, Miles.  The Rangers AREN'T a fantasy team!  Who knew?

haha

http://tinyurl.com/vxkvz

by Dustin on Dec 28, 2006 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

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