The ultimate proof of the idiocy of the Elias Rankings

by Adam J. Morris on Oct 31, 2007 10:20 PM CDT in News Comment 7 comments

Okay, the Elias rankings have always been something of a joke.

But thanks to tdi1985 for pointing out in a comment on the diary on the rankings how ridiculous they really are.

Out of 70 players who got ranked in the 2B/SS/3B category, Joaquin Arias ranked #41. Barely outside of the top half.

And Arias has all of 12 major league plate appearances.

Bobby Crosby and Howie Kendrick are ranked #37 and #38.

Wilson Betemit, who posted a 101 OPS+ each of the past two seasons (and the rankings are based on the player's last two seasons), is ranked below Arias. So are Alex Cora, Alex Gordon, Josh Fields, and Asdrubal Cabrera.

As I mentioned in the diary, their rankings don't take into account park effects.

Here's what they look at for 2B/SS/3B:

PA, AVG, OBP, HR, RBI, Fielding percentage, Total chances at designated position

And this half-ass, jacked up, ridiculous system that no one in their right mind would consider the best way to evaluate a player is what MLB uses for determining draft pick compensation for free agents.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

0 recs | Comment 7 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

How do the people

who came up with this jacked up system step back after it is all done and go... "Yeah this list looks good."

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Oct 31, 2007 10:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wooo!

Main page notoriety!

But seriously, I had to go to the mlb.com player search site to see if there was another Joaquin Arias or something. Alex Gordon was the name in particular that threw me off, that Arias would be above.

crazy crazy crazy!

Troy I.

by tdi1985 on Oct 31, 2007 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

HAHAHA

"All you need to do is blitz them, its that easy"-Kige Ramsey on the Patriots.

by miles on Oct 31, 2007 10:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Honestly though,

how can those stats be weighted? You would think only having 12 plate appearances in 2 years would provide a significant enough of a penalty that he would fall a lot further than 41.

Troy I.

by tdi1985 on Oct 31, 2007 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Gagne

So much for the guaranteed Type A rating.

Long after the World Series celebration dies down, that trade is going to blemish Theo's resume...

by JBImaknee on Oct 31, 2007 10:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah it will...

but in Theo's defense Gagne did look good while he was here and I don't think anyone thought he would implode like he did.

And many here would still be ok with signing him to a similar deal again this year so there are still some Gagne believers out there, I'm not sure if I'm one of them though.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Oct 31, 2007 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs