Cabrera on the market

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 1, 2007 3:17 PM CDT in News

Peter Gammons is reporting that "industry sources say that clubs have been notified there is another major bat and third baseman on the market -- Florida's Miguel Cabrera."

What impact should this have on the Rangers? Very little, I think.

Cabrera is a free agent after 2009. The Rangers are supposedly in rebuilding mode. Giving up significant prospects -- and make no mistake, you are going to have to give up significant prospects to get Cabrera -- for a guy who you only control for two more years, when you are supposed to be rebuilding, is foolishness.

I'm thinking that the Dodgers or Angels will be in on Cabrera, if they miss out on ARod...either one of those two teams could put together a significant package, and include a replacement third baseman for the Marlins. If Anaheim offered Brandon Wood, Ervin Santana and, say, Kendry Morales, I think that would get the Marlins' attention. The Dodgers could build something around Andy LaRoche and Clayton Kershaw.

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wouldn't the Yankees be all over this?

I could see them parting with:

Chien Ming Wang
Melky Cabrera
Ian Kennedy

I'm sure the Marlins would want back Hughes or Chamberlain though.

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by willamos2 on Nov 1, 2007 3:09 PM CDT reply actions

Rotation

If the Yankees make that trade, who replaces Wang and Kennedy in their rotation next year? They are already going to likely lose Clemens and Petite, while Mussina is washed up. Hughes and Chamberlain look like future/current badasses, but I can't imagine the Yankees would want to go into next year with those two guys as their #1 and #2 starters (even if they end up being that by the end of the year). With little free agent pitching on the market this year and the Yankees farm system being somewhat barren after the promotion of the three studs this year, at least with starting rotation candidates, I can't see them making that trade. I don't really think the Yanks want to have spares like Karstens, DeSalvo, Wright and Clippard in their starting rotation again next season.

by uthornfan on Nov 1, 2007 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Cabrera...

When he becomes available in free agency, the Rangers need to go after him...

I say 7 years, 210 million?

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by miles on Nov 1, 2007 3:09 PM CDT reply actions

It could

happen but I doubt the Dodgers would include Kershaw in a trade for TrimSpa Cabrera.

by jparks77 on Nov 1, 2007 3:15 PM CDT reply actions

Offense

Any offensive player that becomes available this off-season should garner Rangers interest - including this guy. He not necessarily only a 3Bman. He can play OF.

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Now way do the Yanks give up the 5 guys mentioned above for this guy.

by LBrooks on Nov 1, 2007 3:22 PM CDT reply actions

A-Rod -- AND --- Cab

Is it just me (hoping) or does it seem like A-Rod may be surprised at the LACK of interest teams may have in him? For a team in need, Cabrera makes more sense to me. Not for the Rangers, but, a team in need.

by 3Bagger on Nov 1, 2007 3:29 PM CDT reply actions

The biggest trade this offseason

I'm betting on Johan Santana...

I will not get my comeuppance!

by Brian Thomas on Nov 1, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions

Now that

is a player I think the Dodgers would trade Kershaw for.

by jparks77 on Nov 1, 2007 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions

I think he'll be

a Yankee.

Especially if Pettitte leaves.

They could build a trade around Melky and Cano. Those are guys the Yanks love, but they play positions the Twins need, and those are positions the Yanks could easily fill this year through free agency.

I think Cabrera, Cano and Kennedy sounds fair.

Of course the trades I think make sense for both sides never happen, so this one probably won't.

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by thedirkatron on Nov 1, 2007 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't think that's enough

If I'm trading Santana to the Yanks, not getting either Hughes or Chamberlain is a dealbreaker.

Conversely, if I'm Cashman, I'm tempted to roll the dice and hope that Santana either a) doesn't get traded, or b) gets traded but hits free agency. With their money, I let Santana's agent know that Big Stein and Lil Stein are willing to moneywhip his ass from Tampa to Caracas.

Sweet Jaysus, it's gonna piss me off if the Yankees get Santana...

I will not get my comeuppance!

by Brian Thomas on Nov 2, 2007 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions

Carbrera

Carbrera has averaged 27 homers a season and hit .313 over five seasons. He is only 24. I don't know what kind of package, if any, the Rangers could offer to get him, but it would be worth trying. They have an extra $21 million with which to sign him to an extension. I don't thing Boras is his agent.

by doolindalton on Nov 1, 2007 3:55 PM CDT reply actions

i think it would take way too much...

Salty
Chris Davis
Hurley

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by willamos2 on Nov 1, 2007 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Salty, Chris Davis Hurley

I'd trade those three for Cabrera today. Move either Hamerin' Hank or Cabrera to first or DH Cabrera.

by doolindalton on Nov 1, 2007 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions

you are an idiot

You would give up our best 3 prospects in the franchise away for him? I'd hate to see what you'd give up for Santana.

by corbsclinton on Nov 1, 2007 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions

How does that help the Rangers?

In the situation, we still wouldn't have a first baseman, catcher or front of the rotation starter. Adding one bat to this lineup while taking away Hurley, Salty and Davis makes us a worse team.

by uthornfan on Nov 1, 2007 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Worse team?

Saltalamacchia is the only one of the three who figures to be with the team in 2008, and I am not a big "Salty" fan because of his defensive liabilities. Hurley is probably going to be a decent major league pitcher, but at this point I don't think he projects as any more than a middle of the rotation guy. I wish they had pitched him in September so the Rangers had a better idea of what he can do. Davis is the only one I would hesitate to trade because of his raw power, but Cabrera is a proven masher, and they don't grow on trees, especially when they are 24. The Rangers have lots of catchers, especially if they "rush" Teagarden to the majors next season in the absence of Saltalamacchia. Cabrera can learn to play first base as Teixeira did in a relatively brief time.

by doolindalton on Nov 1, 2007 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions

2008?

We may be better in 2008, but since we still need pitching, outfielders and a catcher we wouldn't win anything. Even with Cabrera, we are still not going to compete with the Angels next year. Why would you trade a catcher who all the experts think is a future all-star and two of the organizations top three prospects, for two years of Cabrera? When he walks off to the Yankees or Red Sox after 2009 we would be right back where we are now, a bad team that needs pitching and offense. It is thinking like that that helps the team end up where we are now. I would be all for acquiring him if we were one piece away and he would put us over the top, but even with him, we still have a ton of glaring holes on the team.

by uthornfan on Nov 1, 2007 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Please

for all his faults, Mark Teixiera always kept himself in shape and was a good student of the game. So far in his career, Cabrera has shown that he has neither the will nor the tenacity to do either.

For the first time in the history of this ownership group, we've actually committed to a rebuilding plan and now people want us to stray from it a whole 1 year in. That's incredibly shortsighted.

by FirebatM3 on Nov 1, 2007 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Reatrded comments....

First of all, what the hell makes you think that Hurley won't be a top of the rotation guy?

All he has shown so far is that he can dominate.

This team needs a rebuilding mode, reality is we aren't going to win this year or the next.

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by miles on Nov 1, 2007 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Hurley

"First of all, what the hell makes you think that Hurley won't be a top of the rotation guy?"

W-L,4-7; ERA, 4.91; WHIP 1.27. Those are Hurley's AAA stats in OKC. He is young, and maybe he will improve this season, but nothing there says "Ace" or top of the rotation guy.

by doolindalton on Nov 2, 2007 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions

That's a half-assed analysis

No peripherals, no career MILB numbers, no pitch analysis, just cursory and inexplicit stats that don't tell the full story ...

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by inactive lsb user on Nov 2, 2007 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions

although

he was pretty young for the league, he posted his highest bb% and lowest k% of his career last year. His ground ball ratio is the lowest it's been, he allowed more hr/inning and allowed almost a hit an inning.

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by Lonerangers on Nov 2, 2007 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Burden of proof

I am not a stat freak. I think statistics are deceptive and can be pretty half-assed unto themselves. But I don't think "inexplicit" is the term you want to use. Those numbers are pretty explicit. I've watched the kid on MILB too. He's ok, not great. There isn't any indication, statistically or otherwise, the kid is a #1 or #2 starter.

by doolindalton on Nov 2, 2007 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Sorry for calling you an idiot

If Hurley isnt untouchable, he needs to be traded for a pitcher. Salty is not a defensive liability and I'm tired of hearing this. Do you remember what you were doing career wise at 24? Were you knocking at the door of your CEO's office saying "I'm ready"? As much as I'd rather have him a catcher, he's our 1st baseman right now. We have a 3rd baseman. We don't have a 2 or 3 SP. Thats many writers projection for Hurley. You want to ship him off for a guy that may get manny money after 09. I haven't even got to Davis. Only 1 minor leaguer had better power #'s then him last year. These are our guys. Guys that showed us all something last year. I'm not ready to toss them aside for the next Carlos Lee.

by corbsclinton on Nov 1, 2007 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Carlos Lee is not a good comp

for Cabrera. I know they are both fat and Latin, but that is about it as far as similarities.

Cabrera has ~2700 at bats with a career 143 OPS+ at age 24. At that age Lee had ~1150 at bats with roughly a 100 OPS+.

Not comparable.

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by tricer on Nov 1, 2007 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Carlos Lee is a big time hitter....

...with a questionable work ethic that wasn't going to be with us long enough to make a difference (09 for Cab). Screw OPS. Thats my comparison.

by corbsclinton on Nov 1, 2007 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions

If you do that...

...are you willing to move other prospects in an effort to win now?

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 1, 2007 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions

I might...

make that deal if Cabrera would agree to an extension and the Marlins would add Olsen to the deal.

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by tricer on Nov 1, 2007 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions

If

they add Olsen you have to do it. Prospects are just what they are prospects. Cabrera is still very young, and is a big bat that would make this lineup a lot better. Wood, Santana and Morales won't get it done for Anahiem.

by sprite on Nov 1, 2007 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions

I'll stick with Blalock...

I'd rather stick with Hank. This isn't because I don't like Cabrera, he's a great hitter. His defense seems lazy though, from a Joe Morgan-esque, not looking at numbers right now POV.

Hank's 2007 season could have been his best yet. Unfortunately, his injury messed things up.

He was on pace for a 90/30/100 season, with a much improved AVG and OPS. Not to mention, he actually hit lefties BETTER than he hit righties this year (.292 vs RHP, .298 vs LHP). He showed the ability to go the other way, and with a little more work from Wash could be a much better defender (although I still like Hank's defense.)

I say, wait until the All-Star break next season and extend his contract depending on his first half. If he's back to his old ways, you can always trade him.

Just my suggestion.

by cmkelly29 on Nov 1, 2007 4:18 PM CDT reply actions

Just realized...

the team has a club option on him for '09. So, you don't even need to extend his contract yet. The option is only $250,000 more in '09 than it will be next season. However, his buyout is also $250,000.

by cmkelly29 on Nov 1, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Adam

I think you might be overestimating the value of Wood/Santana at this point. I think that would be a pretty awful deal for Florida.

by Brett Perryman on Nov 1, 2007 5:27 PM CDT reply actions

Santana's fastball

moves as good as anyone in the league. He was brought up fast and I think he still has a chance to be a 20 game winner some day soon.

by corbsclinton on Nov 1, 2007 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions

Thank you

I was about to say the same thing.

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by thedirkatron on Nov 1, 2007 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions

Stay Away from this

we don't have the payroll to commit that kind of money to one player when we have so many holes.

by Agreen07 on Nov 1, 2007 5:33 PM CDT reply actions

good gawd..

if the angels had Cabrera/Vlad hitting back-to-back we need to start thinking 2010 if we aren't already. That would just plain suck.

by corbsclinton on Nov 1, 2007 5:46 PM CDT reply actions

imagine

arod/vlad.

by knockoutking24 on Nov 1, 2007 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions

A-Rod/Glad/Cabrera

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by miles on Nov 1, 2007 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions

cabrera

id LOVE to get him.

say what you want about him, but here are his top 10 baseball reference similar players through age 24

Hank Aaron (950) *
Ken Griffey (917)
Frank Robinson (911) *
Orlando Cepeda (910) *
Hal Trosky (902)
Joe Medwick (894) *
Al Kaline (893) *
Mickey Mantle (892) *
Andruw Jones (882)
Vladimir Guerrero (879)

i would trade (almost) anyone in our farm system for any of those guys in their primes (which is what he is about to enter)

im saying right now that if hurley/kiker/someone else

only untouchables to me are andrus (i dont think right now that fair value for him can be had), davis

by knockoutking24 on Nov 1, 2007 5:52 PM CDT reply actions

Hurley Kiker and Someone else?

Is that the smartest thing to do right now? For all the people saying we have depth in our pitching, this is definitely the fastest way to obliterate it. Why would you trade for Cabrera by trading away your good young pitching. It doesnt make sense. I know that hammerin hank hasnt been hamering much in a while, but i'd much rather run the dice on him than risk losing a "strength" in your system for years to come.

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by kevzta on Nov 1, 2007 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions

A-Rod

asking for 12 years...

So he could get a contract upwards of 360 million...

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by miles on Nov 1, 2007 6:01 PM CDT reply actions

Cabrera

has anyone seen him lately? The dude is eating himself out of the league, or at least eating himself to a permenant job at 1B or DH.

He's a great player, but we only control him for 1 year, and you gotta question his work ethic at this point, and I doubt he signs an extension any time soon. Let the Dodgers bid for him.

by FirebatM3 on Nov 1, 2007 6:01 PM CDT reply actions

What is wrong with him at 1B?

or DH? He is a fantastic hitter, better than almost any 1B or DH in the AL.

by Brett Perryman on Nov 1, 2007 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't think

you invest that many prospects on a 1B or DH that will be a free agent in 2 years and haven't shown any sign of commitment to his team, coaches or his own body. Those type of guys just worry me.

by FirebatM3 on Nov 1, 2007 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions

I can relate to that

It would make zero sense to trade Teixeira only to put yourself in the same situation with someone else.

But his bat at 1B/DH has almost exactly the same value to me as his bat while being a liability at 3B. That's my only issue.

by Brett Perryman on Nov 1, 2007 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Kris benson anyone?

The O's have declined a team option for 2008. Do you bing him in one a cheap one year deal to see what he has left?

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by boomer1 on Nov 1, 2007 6:22 PM CDT reply actions

Nope...

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by miles on Nov 1, 2007 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions

No to him

yes to his wife.

by Agreen07 on Nov 1, 2007 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions

I keep hearing

Don't trade any prospects and one player isn't going to make us a winner.

Prospects - 80% or more of the guys that we have ranked in the prospect rankings currently have more value than they will ever have. The organization has to do a great job of evaluating which guys are untouchable and the rest...you listen when guys like Cabrera are on the market.

The one player argument - This one really kills me. If you never acquire good players because "we aren't one player away," then how do you ever get one player away.

Also, it kills me to constantly hear that we are playing for 2010. So you just give up on finding a way to be good soon. It's not out of the realm of possibility to be good soon. Well, it is if you aren't in the bidding for any great players that are on the market and you let them go to the best team in your division.

I'm sorry, I love the depth in the minor leagues, but if you think that we are going to win a World Series in 2011 by just standing pat and letting these kids make it to the big leagues. Just because they are very talented, doesn't mean that they are ALL going to be superstars.

by badradiorules on Nov 1, 2007 9:00 PM CDT reply actions

You get

one player away by actually developing your own prospects. We finally have a good farm system and I am not against trading pieces of it, but I don't want to trade away Hurley, Salty and Davis as someone suggested for two years of Miguel Cabrera. We need a hell of a lot more than one additional hitter. At the end of next year when Davis, Duran, Teagarden, Hurley, and the rest of our upper minors players are ready to contribute, then we can talk about trading for a missing piece.

by uthornfan on Nov 1, 2007 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions

So just

twiddle your thumbs until 2010 when you MIGHT be one player away to try to acquire special proven talent.

I'm against Hurley/Salty/Davis, but I'd listen to Hurley/Blalock/Teagarden.

by badradiorules on Nov 1, 2007 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions

I didn't say that

but we need a lot more then one additional bat. You want to win now and I understand that, but that is what the Rangers have always done. We traded Chris Young, Adrian Gonzalez and John Danks so that we could win now. How did that go for us? Why do you want us to keep trading all our prospects so that we can win now? Do you not realize that that plan doesn't work and we have to try something else?

Unless you are going to trade everyone in the system for major league studs, how are we going to fill all the needs we have in the next two years? We need two or more starting pitchers, a first baseman, a catcher (if you traded Salty) and a couple of outfielders. If you can tell me how you plan on filling every need this team has by April 1, 2008 so that we can compete for a championship with Cabrera, I will gladly listen to you. If you traded for him, all you would have is one more hitter on a team with no outfielders, no catcher, crappy defense and no starting pitching.

by uthornfan on Nov 1, 2007 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions

That's what I'm saying

You need either 2 more bats and two average or better starting pitchers or 3-4 more bats and one more starting pitcher.

So that's at least 4 pieces that you need to fill to give you a good chance. If you never acquire one of those pieces, then you'll never be one piece away.

You acquire them as they become available. You make you best pitch to get them without mortgaging the future. You scout you own organization really well and decide who is untouchable and who has reached their peak. (something the Braves did so well for a long time)

The Rangers have too much financial flexibility to just sit on their hands and wait for 2011. Will they be able to win the west next year? Probably not. But if they can find two of those pieces this offseason, they go into next offseason with a realistic chance to win in 2009.

The past deals that you alluded to were STUPID moves not an indication of trying to win now. They were awful short term and long term. What they need to do is make SMART moves and if they can do a trade for Cabrera that is smart, then do it.

At the end of the day, if it doesn't work out, you can probably a pretty nice package for him July 2009.

by badradiorules on Nov 1, 2007 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions

What you're missing

is the timing of this project.

Cabrera just doesn't make sense for this team at this time. He is not the only young slugger to ever be "on the market." We have '08 offseason and '09 offseason to evaluate the development of our players, observe who stepped up and who busted, THEN make a more accurate determination as to how to mold the team into a winning unit.

As of now, management couldn't have a clue, and you couldn't expect that from them. The rebuilding baby just left the womb, can we give it maybe one year or two before we start blowing it up?

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by inactive lsb user on Nov 2, 2007 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions

Blow it up?

Three players for Cabrera blows up the rebuilding process? Who says rebuilding takes 3,4 or 5 years? Management should be finding ways to win as soon as possible. They should make deals that help now with an eye to the future or it will always be "wait till two years from now".

"As for now, management couldn't have a clue, and you couldn't expect that from them."

They better damn well have a clue. It's their damn job to evaluate players.

You guys who are against trading anybody and lose 100 games a year until 2010 and then just roll out our young guys and win a world series. Good luck. I hope that's not the front office's philosophy.

Cabrera may not be a fit. That's JD's job to decide that. But, I hope his mood isn't the same as most people on here when every good player hits the market. That being: "Nah, we aren't one player away" or "We aren't about to let go of any of these minor leaguers for a big league star"

I just don't understand why you build strong depth in your organization if you aren't going to be willing to part with some of them for a great player.

by badradiorules on Nov 2, 2007 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Sigh

I'm not going to go through and change the way that you think.

Dude. We just traded away a superstar player that WE drafted. Have you thought about that much?

Rebuilding is not an overnight process. That's why it takes at minimum 3 years, but, more realistically, it will usually take 4 or 5 years. I'm not saying that JD can't pull a Dombrowski -- it's entirely possible.

Do you think management is trying to find ways to lose as soon as possible?

Do you think management isn't trying to make deals that help now with an eye to the future?

How can they have any idea whether Eric Hurley is the real deal? Whether Chris Davis will pan out to be a CIF slugger that we so sorely need? They can study the empirical evidence along with the scouting reports, but they will never know for certain until they reach MLB and produce the desired results.

"I hope that's not the front office's philosophy."

It is. Deal with it. And get used to it. Your plan of reloading every year and signing high-priced FA's and neglecting the farm system has proven to fail for decades for many teams.

"I just don't understand why you build strong depth in your organization if you aren't going to be willing to part with some of them for a great player."

You ARE going to be willing to part with some of them for a great player, you just need to wait and see WHO you should part for, and WHEN would be a good time to part for them. Case in point: if Eric Hurley taps his ceiling and becomes a legit #1, the Rangers won't necessarily try to push for Santana in '09. Then, they would likely pursue a COF bat or whatever they deem is "the remaining piece" to the puzzle.

Is that so hard to understand?

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by inactive lsb user on Nov 2, 2007 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions

You are misunderstanding.

Yes, we just traded away a superstar. We traded him because he wanted no part of being here and wasn't going to resign. If they get that feeling about Cabrera or any other player, then don't acquire them.

Rebuilding should take 4-5 years if you are starting with a poor farm system and have financial constraints. This team has neither. If it takes this team 5 years to win, JD shouldn't be here by then.

They better have a pretty good idea of what Hurley is right now. If they don't, then they shouldn't have their jobs. They traded Danks because they had determined without seeing that he wasn't a top of the rotation guy. They were probably right. If each one of these prospects has to have 500 ABs/200 IP at the big league level before management knows what they are, then why not hire you as the GM. You and I can read a stat sheet as good as anybody. They have their jobs because they can evaluate talent. Obviously, there are a few guys that will suprise you and a few that will dissapoint, but if you have no idea then you shouldn't have a job.

Where have I said to reload and sign high-priced FA's? I don't believe that's been anywhere in my argument. It is just my argument that this team has too many resources to just sit back and put a crappy product on the field for the next three years because they have a lot of nice 17-20 year old prospects. If you paid attention to how Detroit built their team, they didn't sit on their hands forever and all of a sudden all their prospects showed up and carried them. They added a piece or two a year for three years and their prospects added to that.

Is that so hard to understand?

by badradiorules on Nov 2, 2007 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions

08 and 09.....

.....to evaluate?

What about 06 and 07, and evaluating guys like Laird, Cruz, Botts, etc?

by LBrooks on Nov 2, 2007 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions

It's all about the pitching....

When will Ranger fans realize that what the team has been missing in someone to throw the ball and not hit the ball?

Trading pitching for hitting would be like signing A-Rod to a 250 million dollar contract.

by Redcaps on Nov 2, 2007 6:38 AM CDT reply actions

That it is

and the rotation as it is now needs a lot of help but at least we have some kids on the way that could help...we really have to keep our fingers crossed and hope we get a couple studs out of Hurley, Volquez, Kiker, Beavan, Harrison, and others in the next 2-4 yrs.

If they don't work out then starting pitching should still be a huge focus on the F.A. market but let us not forget this team needs help in many areas including the OF and 1B as well.

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by slc ranger on Nov 2, 2007 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions