Who Florida is getting

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 4, 2007 7:28 PM CST in News Comment 28 comments

Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin, of course, are going to Florida...but who else? From the Detroit Free-Press:

According to one club official with knowledge of the negotiations, Detroit has tentatively agreed to include catcher Mike Rabelo and right-handed pitchers Dallas Trahern, Eulogio De La Cruz and Burke Badenhop in the deal.

De la Cruz and Trahern were ranked #7 and #11, respectively, by Kevin Goldstein in his rankings of the Tiger prospects. Rabelo is a not very good 27 year old backup catcher. Badenhop is a 24 year old pitcher who spent most of the year in high-A, and put up a good ERA while striking out barely 5 batters per 9.

Here's what Goldstein said a few days ago about the Tiger system:

Already a below-average system, the Tigers' prospect list was hurt considerably by the Edgar Renteria trade, which cost them Gorkys Hernandez and Jair Jurrjens, players who would have ranked third and fourth on this list, respectively. Much of the organization's future improvement in this regard revolves around the 2007 draft class, for which scouting director David Chadd was given a blank check. The good news is that they are still a primarily young, talented team at the big league level. The bad news is that any real help after Maybin might be a while in coming.

With Maybin, Jurrjens, and Hernandez gone, the Tigers have Rick Porcello and not much else...but then, they are in win-now mode, and are spending to win now, so the farm is a secondary priority...

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Rick Porcello

for Larid... Done. Lolerz

by miles on Dec 4, 2007 7:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Porcello + a prospect

for Laird. Players with that face and those tools don't just grow on trees.

"On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

by jparks77 on Dec 4, 2007 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Do

Jordan Tata and Virgil Vasquez suck?

by abc123 on Dec 4, 2007 7:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Pretty much

I don't think either is ever going to be more than a No. 5 starter, and maybe not even that. Just not a fan of either of them.

by uthornfan on Dec 4, 2007 7:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

AJM

Where would Maybin and Miller rank inf they were in the Rangers' system, for comparison purposes.

Your Texas Rangers...2007-Playing for the Future, 2010-Playing for the Future, 2013-Playing for the Future, 2017-Playing for the Future

by Agreen07 on Dec 4, 2007 7:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

My guess

1 and 2

"On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

by jparks77 on Dec 4, 2007 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

1-2

Although Miller doesn't qualify as a prospect anymore.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 4, 2007 7:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

...even though these are such high-rated prospects, seems like a good move to me for Detroit. At least they have a clear direction now...win now. Further, they have a solid group of young pitchers that will be there for a long time.

Your Texas Rangers...2007-Playing for the Future, 2010-Playing for the Future, 2013-Playing for the Future, 2017-Playing for the Future

by Agreen07 on Dec 4, 2007 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

1a and 1b respectively

Put Mayberry Jr. back at First Base.

by Jukebox Joe on Dec 4, 2007 7:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

I'd say Maybin is a step above Miller, imo.

Dwyade once challenged God to a game of 1-on-1, only to realize that not even God can play 1-on-1 against Himself.

by thedirkatron on Dec 4, 2007 7:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

De la Cruz

I'm a fan of him.

He's got a small, thick frame that worries scouts, but he throws in the high-90's pretty consistently and hit 100 a couple of times during his brief call up to Detroit last year.

Not a bad third prospect to get back.

Potential future as a closer.

Dwyade once challenged God to a game of 1-on-1, only to realize that not even God can play 1-on-1 against Himself.

by thedirkatron on Dec 4, 2007 7:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

You never answered my Darjeeling question

Jerk...

Brett Gardner broke my heart...

by Brian Thomas on Dec 4, 2007 9:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

hey... Darjeeling

is famous for its tea industry

Merry Christmas to all LSB and Texas Rangers Fans

by ghostofChrisYoungandJohnDanks on Dec 4, 2007 10:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and you

are famous for your username industry.

Tomorrow Never Knows

by t ball on Dec 4, 2007 10:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I have a few LSB uid below 100

If you want to buy one.

I also have several under 500 for a buy one get one free ;)

Merry Christmas to all LSB and Texas Rangers Fans

by ghostofChrisYoungandJohnDanks on Dec 4, 2007 11:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Donde?

Dwyade once challenged God to a game of 1-on-1, only to realize that not even God can play 1-on-1 against Himself.

by thedirkatron on Dec 4, 2007 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, found it

Well, first let me say that Wes Anderson is far and away my favorite writer/director, and that Life Aquatic is my favorite Wes Anderson movie.

I didn't enjoy LA the first time I saw it (like I did with both Tenenbaums and now Darjeeling), but after repeated viewings at home it's really grown on me.

As for Darjeeling... it's weird. Like, really weird. I enjoyed it, but I wasn't blown away. It's worth seeing. My sister who enjoys Wes Anderson movies as well (though not to the same fanatical extent I do) thought it was fantastic and says it's by far her favorite.

Like all of his movies, Darjeeling has slowly grown on me in the days and weeks since I saw it, and I can't wait to own it on DVD.

As for Hotel Chevalier, it's basically a prelude piece to the movie. Jason Schwartzman's character in the movie is heartbroken over a bad breakup, and HC is a short movie showing him and his ex (Natalie Portman) interacting, which is nice cause they're never shown together during the movie.

It was shown before the movie when I went to see it in the theater.

It's also available for download for free from iTunes, though without the context of the movie I imagine it'd be a pretty dull short film to watch. Not too much really happens. (Though you do get some pretty good shots of Natalie Portman's plant powered 97-pound body.)

Dwyade once challenged God to a game of 1-on-1, only to realize that not even God can play 1-on-1 against Himself.

by thedirkatron on Dec 4, 2007 11:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Did either of you

see NCFOM yet? Thoughts?

T.R. -- enough is enough.

by Chase Irwin on Dec 4, 2007 11:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

I thought it was a truly great film. Everything about it was superlative.

Anton Chigurh is one of the most memorable film character's of all time, imo. He makes even the most casual, random interactions an edge-of-your seat experience.

The ending was a bit... well, a bit of a let down. But it worked. A couple of guys in the theater got really pissed when it happened and actually started yelling at the screen, but I didn't have a huge problem with it at the time, and the more I think about it, the more I like it. How else could it have ended?

In other words: I thought it was the best movie I've seen this year.

Dwyade once challenged God to a game of 1-on-1, only to realize that not even God can play 1-on-1 against Himself.

by thedirkatron on Dec 4, 2007 11:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I loved the ending

The majority of the audience stayed in their seats well after the lights came on, seemingly dumbfounded.

The cattlegun was a great motif, what a signature weapon.

T.R. -- enough is enough.

by Chase Irwin on Dec 5, 2007 12:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

NCFOM

Reading the book ahead of time you're forewarned about how the story ends.

So actually I don't understand why people are disappointed?

I guess I can see it but, why exactly? I guess this is a question begging for spoilers...

by hightowersmith on Dec 5, 2007 9:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Truth be told

The ending in the book left me a little flat initially, too.

After some time passed, it seemed like the only possible conclusion.

Thing is, that car wreck was a perfect "vehicle (I so punny)" for expediting the ending in the book, but it ends up essentially nonsensical in the movie. They either should have left it out or followed through on the book's narrative. It would only have taken another 5 minutes, and it would have made for a better ending.

Brett Gardner broke my heart...

by Brian Thomas on Dec 5, 2007 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The accident

Putting the accident in the story was deliberate, not just a way to wrap things up. You have to look at it - and everything - with Chigurh in mind, because he's the real star.

Chigurh only does things that get him closer to the money, except when he flips a coin.

He is mathematical efficiency, or mathematical entropy.

But...what happens to him?

A random accident.

So, I feel like the story is about the value of having a mission, or even just making deliberate decisions. But that's not revealed till we see the end.

by hightowersmith on Dec 5, 2007 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree

I thought it's theme was borderline nihilistic.

Bell, essentially, was Macarthy's voice, witnessing a world, from a very atheistic viewpoint, that has gone to hell.

And Chigurgh was the hand of that new, ugly world order.

My conception of Anton Chigurgh is summed up best by the character's own words: "Even a non-believer might find it useful to model himself after God. Very useful, in fact."

I like your math analogy alot, but I disagree with your last paragraph.

Brett Gardner broke my heart...

by Brian Thomas on Dec 5, 2007 8:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I guess you missed my reply, too

http://www.lonestarball.com/comments/2007/11/28/113012/36/12#12

It was a very faithful rendition, as far as book-to-movie creations go, so I guess I shouldn't complain too much, but I must reiterate that Chigurgh's personae loses something in the movie, and I don't think that it was unavoidable.

And I guess I feel more strongly about it now because I went back and re-read most of the book, which definitely confirmed my initial impression.

They also cut several of his best lines unnecessarily...

I'm nitpicking though. All in all an excellent film.

Brett Gardner broke my heart...

by Brian Thomas on Dec 5, 2007 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs