Numbers on the Milton Bradley deal

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 9, 2007 12:33 PM CST in News

T.R. Sullivan reports that the Rangers came in with a late offer of 1 year, $5 million plus incentives on Milton Bradley...

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Perfect.

T.R. -- enough is enough.

by inactive lsb user on Dec 9, 2007 12:22 PM CST reply actions

I do like the idea...

that even if Bradley is out to start the year Nellie will have a month or so until Bradley is healthy to show he is a option. If he doesn't perform, then it will be time to move on from Cruz.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 9, 2007 12:23 PM CST reply actions

Interesting point

At what point (I assume it will be this year) do we decide Cruz and Tejeda are both lost causes?

by chief on Dec 9, 2007 12:52 PM CST up reply actions

Bradley

so who gets the boot from the 40 after this move

by meatbonelefty on Dec 9, 2007 12:26 PM CST reply actions

Bill White, Gorneault, Tejeda

Not really an issue.

T.R. -- enough is enough.

by inactive lsb user on Dec 9, 2007 12:27 PM CST up reply actions

Gorneault?

That would be my guess.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 9, 2007 12:31 PM CST up reply actions

"Milton Bradley was one of the better..

pure hitters available" according to ESPN. They say great low risk high upside move. Keep it coming J.D. theres plenty more to do.

"Santa all I want is a new owner for the Rangers. Pee Wee and Wash can stay." - Me

by LAMuscleFag on Dec 9, 2007 12:50 PM CST reply actions

Done hating on JD LA?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 9, 2007 1:04 PM CST up reply actions

I'm happy when progress is being made. Up to this signing no progress was made. Chris Shelton is an avg. first baseman nothing special. Milton Bradley is a stud. It just seemed like free agent after free agent was passing us by. Don't get me wrong theres a lot of work to do yet but this was a great move and I applaud pee wee on it.

"Santa all I want is a new owner for the Rangers. Pee Wee and Wash can stay." - Me

by LAMuscleFag on Dec 9, 2007 1:20 PM CST up reply actions

woohoo

at Jon Daniels!
now go get Fukudome!

"Pitchers, like poets, are born not made." -- Cy Young

by Sobetan610 on Dec 9, 2007 1:05 PM CST reply actions

Fukudome

I am all for getting him, but where does that leave Cat? At 1B? As a utility guy? I am not sure.

Fire Ron Washington

by pblack on Dec 9, 2007 1:47 PM CST up reply actions

i would think 1b

and that it would push shelton to platoon 1b. im aware he doesnt have great platoon stats but that would seem to be the only role left.

by DShep on Dec 9, 2007 2:02 PM CST up reply actions

yeah

or put him as the utility guy. he'd be an upgrade ovez vazquez.
would he be trade bait or is his value almost nothing?

"Pitchers, like poets, are born not made." -- Cy Young

by Sobetan610 on Dec 9, 2007 2:04 PM CST up reply actions

Really?

Milton Bradley? 5 million for Milton Bradley? He is cancer. Look what he did to the Padres last year. Look what he did to the Dodgers. Look what he did to the Indians.

Red Sux Nation is an evil organization.

by BillyBobisdrunk on Dec 9, 2007 2:23 PM CST reply actions

Bradley

Yeah, hitting .313 with 11 HR and a .414 OBP with the Padres last year was really what kept San Diego from going to the playoffs.

The Dodgers won the NL West in Bradley's one full season there. He was the best hitter on the 2003 Indians, and the 2002 team stunk because they couldn't pitch, and had only three good hitters in the lineup.

"Then I met some friends for a beer, went to a BoDeans's concert, and son of a vondruke, if I didn't leave him at the concert hall."

by RCCook on Dec 9, 2007 2:29 PM CST up reply actions

padres

oh yeah, he was a menace in san diego

http://www.gaslampball.com/story/2007/12/9/112543/368#commenttop

by DShep on Dec 9, 2007 2:29 PM CST up reply actions

ron washington

is a brotha though so he might behave better. regardless i don't really care. 1 year 5 million is nothing, low risk. this is a good move.

by selppuc on Dec 9, 2007 2:30 PM CST up reply actions

So, did the Pads offer him arb?

Cause he was a type A free agent. I love this signing, but it'd dampen my enthusiasm quite a bit if we lost a second rounder to sign him.

Either way that means he'll likely be a type A again next year, so if he has a good season and ends up leaving, we'll at least get two draft picks out of this, which would be nice.

Dwyade once challenged God to a game of 1-on-1, only to realize that not even God can play 1-on-1 against Himself.

by thedirkatron on Dec 9, 2007 2:47 PM CST reply actions

No, they didn't

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 9, 2007 2:50 PM CST up reply actions

Whew!

They didn't offer him arby. (Last paragraph.)

I'm very excited about this deal.

If he's healthy the guy can rake.

If he rakes we either have a leg up in signing him to a long term deal after the season, or we get two picks out of him.

I'm pumped.

Dwyade once challenged God to a game of 1-on-1, only to realize that not even God can play 1-on-1 against Himself.

by thedirkatron on Dec 9, 2007 2:52 PM CST up reply actions

i have

torn my achilles tendon playing soccer.
that's a bitch.

"Pitchers, like poets, are born not made." -- Cy Young

by Sobetan610 on Dec 9, 2007 3:39 PM CST up reply actions

I have

Tore a ligament in my right knee playing soccer in middle school.

Got off of my crutches too soon, and it didn't heal right and has bothered me ever since.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 9, 2007 3:43 PM CST up reply actions

Agree....

best case he's the DH for the first 4 months of the season and worst case he's not even on the field until July.

The best case scenerio takes ABs away from LSB fav Botts. What about this is a good move?

by bdavison94 on Dec 9, 2007 3:50 PM CST up reply actions

Botts

can play LF.

Until Bradley's healthy enough to DH you can go with Botts at DH, Shelton at 1b, Cat/Byrd in LF, Murphy in CF, and Cruz in RF.

Once Bradley is back, you can put him at DH, Botts in LF, Cat/Shelton at 1b, Murphy/Byrd in CF and Cruz in RF.

That would be fine by me.

Of course I have a hard time believing we're really gonna go with all those young guys full time. We'll likely find a Jerry Hairston-like spare to snake a bunch of AB's from the kids.

Dwyade once challenged God to a game of 1-on-1, only to realize that not even God can play 1-on-1 against Himself.

by thedirkatron on Dec 9, 2007 3:59 PM CST up reply actions

Only problem is......

Botts can't play LF....he may be able to DH? (Doubtful) But, maybe he and/or Cruz will have proven useful or not by the time Bradley is ready.

Btw, I'm guessing whatever time Bradley misses would severely limit his chances of reaching the "incentives" in his contract?

by tklawless on Dec 9, 2007 11:31 PM CST up reply actions

i'm uninformed

what's Botts' strengths?
what makes him good? his MLB numbers aren't too great.
i just wanna know, cuz i don't.

"Pitchers, like poets, are born not made." -- Cy Young

by Sobetan610 on Dec 9, 2007 4:00 PM CST up reply actions

strengths?

well, if you look at his minor league numbers, he projects to be a power hitter who strikes out a lot and walks a lot. but, that obviously hasn't happened. other than that, can't play 1B, and is otherwise pretty useless in the field.

by ab03 on Dec 9, 2007 4:16 PM CST up reply actions

Personally....

I don't think Botts is going to be a very good player. That said, we have one season (this one) to find out as much as we can before we have to decide what to do with him because he is out of options.

Botts is pretty good at going deep into counts and has solid power. That's pretty much it. He's a horrible defender in the outfield and can't play first. So he's pretty much a DH unless he can hit like Man-ram.

by bdavison94 on Dec 9, 2007 4:16 PM CST up reply actions

i hope

he turns out to be a beast.
of course you never know in baseball.

"Pitchers, like poets, are born not made." -- Cy Young

by Sobetan610 on Dec 9, 2007 4:23 PM CST up reply actions

Botts

In the minors, he was pretty good at both getting on base and hitting for power. Those are two fairly important things offensively.

I don't think he's going to be Travis Hafner, but I could certainly see him becoming Lee Stevens, who was a pretty good player for a few seasons.

"Then I met some friends for a beer, went to a BoDeans's concert, and son of a vondruke, if I didn't leave him at the concert hall."

by RCCook on Dec 9, 2007 4:24 PM CST up reply actions

I don't understand....

Are you disagreeing with what I said?

by bdavison94 on Dec 9, 2007 4:32 PM CST up reply actions

Botts

Not really, other than that you don't think he'll be a very good player, and I think he'll be a little above-average.

I do agree that he's very limited defensively, and that 2008 is his make-or-break year.

"Then I met some friends for a beer, went to a BoDeans's concert, and son of a vondruke, if I didn't leave him at the concert hall."

by RCCook on Dec 9, 2007 5:12 PM CST up reply actions

I hope....

that you're right and I'm wrong.

by bdavison94 on Dec 9, 2007 7:54 PM CST up reply actions

He ain't & you ain't

by tklawless on Dec 9, 2007 11:33 PM CST up reply actions

The Rangers

need a guy that brings passion and intensity to the field along with his beastly attitude.

The last time the Rangers had a offensive guy like that was Eric Young.

Brittney Spears is aparently pregnant again, and Tony Romo and her hooked up a few weeks ago...Put 2 and 2 together.

by miles on Dec 9, 2007 4:00 PM CST up reply actions

Big problem with that

They don't allow players on the DL to be on the field.

Oh Man!!!!

by SwiperNoSwiping on Dec 9, 2007 4:31 PM CST up reply actions

Don't worry about that

It's a great move because he's got intensity.

Oh Man!!!!

by SwiperNoSwiping on Dec 9, 2007 4:31 PM CST up reply actions

Nope

Two ACL reconstructions over a two year period. Cadaver ligaments in both knees.

"On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

by jparks77 on Dec 9, 2007 5:41 PM CST up reply actions

Weiner

It probably took CJ longer to heal due to the fact that he is a hemmorhaging vagina.

I tore a ligament in my ankle in 2002 that will never heal.

by tlt29 on Dec 9, 2007 6:46 PM CST up reply actions

Love it! A la Terrance Newman.....

although for 59:42 I was afraid that was gonna bite us in the ass!

by tklawless on Dec 9, 2007 11:36 PM CST up reply actions

why on earth would anyone...

want to say ANYTHING disparaging about C.J. He's such a gentleman and lends such awesome insight to this Blog. Well thanks for being such an enlightening stud C.J. you're the best !!

"Santa all I want is a new owner for the Rangers. Pee Wee and Wash can stay." - Me

by LAMuscleFag on Dec 10, 2007 12:14 AM CST up reply actions

Sorry you didn't get the joke.

I guess the smiley face didn't come across well. Most people on these boards who know me would understand that my comments were tongue-in-cheek. I forget that I don't get to these boards nearly as much anymore, so there's a lot of folks I'm not familiar with.

CJ - please take this misunderstanding in the same fashion you wished others to take the misunderstanding of the watermelon photo/B McCarthy MySpace issue.

No harm...no foul.

Thanks.

by tlt29 on Dec 10, 2007 3:01 PM CST up reply actions

I

had left knee reconstruction sugury in Hs. tore my ACL and damagaed a bunch of cartlidge. I hyper-extended strecthing to the 1B bag like Chipper Jones did in the minors. Took a long time and was a pain in the butt. I was back at 100% in about 9-10 months.

The Texas Rangers rounded the bases at a dizzying pace

by fsujon on Dec 10, 2007 5:09 PM CST up reply actions