Eric Gagne
It is going to make me sad to see him traded.
I love watching him pitch.
And I love the results.
His body might be held together with Scotch tape, but geez, I wish we could keep him around for a few more years.
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thinking
imagine, the greatest closer in team history wasted on this season. very sad.
Alright, I'm as sentimental as the next guy, but
That said, I'm totally with Adam. I'm one of those guys who loves reading Jamey's cheesy emails where he waxes poetic about great baseball moments. Gagne is one of those guys I love watching pitch even when he's not doing well.
Oops ... I meant the greatest closer...
by RangerDisaster on Jun 15, 2007 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Best closer we've ever had?
by LoneStarBallUser on Jun 15, 2007 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
performance over the course of the year
its a small sample size and a statement that's near impossible to prove, but overall, he has to be the best relief pitcher to put on a rangers uniform, even when we are getting him past his really good years.
hey ab03
damn
YEH Gagne is truly ...
a STUDS STUD .. aka mans man...I sure hope JD gets some top quality chips for him..it is going to be sad..to lose the best closer in baseball history cuz the team was an Anna Nicole train wreck of a team :(
by RangerDisaster on Jun 15, 2007 9:49 PM CDT reply actions
Why can't we?
Having Aki and Gagne at the back end of the bullpen is something we'll need if we have any hopes of competing next year.
Thinking like this
by LoneStarBallUser on Jun 15, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
We'd have to get a lot better
But my point is that if you're not going to trade Tex, then you're not blowing things up.
And if you're not blowing things up, then why not at least try to compete?
Personally I say we trade Aki, Gagne, Tex, Lofton, Wilkerson and Millwood (assuming he rights the ship and has any value at the deadline). But it all hinges on Tex.
by thedirkatron on Jun 15, 2007 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
YES !! You're 6 for 6 ...
by RangerDisaster on Jun 15, 2007 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Millwood
by Randy Richardson on Jun 15, 2007 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeh....true..
by RangerDisaster on Jun 15, 2007 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Millwood
But we shouldn't give him away. It's never a bad thing to have a veteran starter around, even during a rebuilding. Plus his salary is actually pretty darn reasonable given the explosion we saw this off season.
If the Mets called dangling my boy Milledge, I'd bite. (A dream, I know.)
by thedirkatron on Jun 16, 2007 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Tex
by LoneStarBallUser on Jun 16, 2007 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions
not really sure
i'd rather see gagne here in '08 and beyond at 13 mil per year than torii hunter.
by drilledpress on Jun 15, 2007 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Gagne
If, somehow we're unable to trade Gagne, you get the benefit of watching him for the rest of the year and that's it.
by Randy Richardson on Jun 15, 2007 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
obviously trade him
if we get a mlb-ready starter or OF i'm fine with trading him, but bullpen pieces like eric gagne are hard to find. given his contract situation its unlikely the talent we get in return will match the talent we give up.
and fwiw, i dont really care about hicks' 4-5 mil. i've put plenty of $$ in the guy's pocket already. least he could do is try to keep one of the best closers in the game.
by drilledpress on Jun 15, 2007 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
hmm
that
maybe if he had been a life long ranger it would be different.
along those lines, might the dodgers pay a bit to get gagne back, even though its not technically an area of need?
Stop it!
Yes, I would greatly enjoy seeing him in a Ranger uniform for the next couple years. But my brain overcomes my heart in this. We're better off saving that money for greater needs and getting a youngster in trade.
I agree
I don't want to see us trade Gagne, then keep the rest of our vets, and sign some FA's this off season in an effort to compete next year. If we're going to do that, then keep Gagne. If we're going to blow it up, blow it completely up, and YES, trade Gagne.
by thedirkatron on Jun 16, 2007 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
my argument would be
and that if your bullpen is absolutely nails, then you don't need Great starting pitching to contend. def has to be better than 6.90 ERA. but you could develop your starters, your young position players, all while backing them up with a nasty, veteran bullpen. and you're not breaking the bank.
again, if jd can get really good value in return, make the deal. otherwise, if hicks is going to spend any money at all while rebuilding, he should spend it in the bullpen.
by drilledpress on Jun 16, 2007 2:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Well
So, it seems wherever he goes, he's going to negotiate additional years.
It is nice having him in Texas...
by hightowersmith on Jun 16, 2007 2:23 AM CDT up reply actions
gagne
If only
What happens if...
Of course
I think what most of these guys
- Rangers will lose 95-100 games a year for the next 4 to 5 years.
- John Daniels will get fired.
- Ron Washington will get fired.
- Revenue will collapse and payroll will be stuck at the very bottom along with the KC's of the world.
At this juncture I just don't know what should be done with the Rangers. Tear it down and risk becoming the 90's version of the Mavericks. Continue to sign band aid type free agents and you continue to be bad as well. Of course, Gagne and Teixeira aren't band aid type players. They are players a team like the Rangers can build around. Not many teams ever built a championship club from trading away their best players. The only ones I can think of is the Marlins who did it twice and the Tigers who won the pennant last year. We know the Rangers have nothing in common with the Marlins and it took years of being absolutely dreadful for the Tigers to come back strong. And of course, they had to get lucky along the way with the Pads passing on Verlander and signing some key free agents. The Tigers aren't exactly built by draft picks alone. They've got a lot of 30 something guys and even a 40 something guy on their team.
by gp on Jun 16, 2007 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
trades
by Randy Richardson on Jun 16, 2007 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I guess you are not understanding what I
Also, me and some of the regulars on this board used to go round and round over on the old Newberg board about signing guys like Gagne. I always wanted the Rangers to get some protection in the contract such as a club option. As it is the Rangers take all the risk and are on the hook for any rehab costs, etc. and get very little benefit. So far it has worked out well with Gagne. He is getting healthier and healthier and is productive. To bad that after he has proven himself he is going to sign elsewhere. Basically, some of these guys are treating the Rangers like a AAA rehab stint.
by gp on Jun 16, 2007 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Tex and Gagne
No one held a gun to our head and made us sign Gagne. Because of his injury history, I wouldn't be surprised if he signs another 1year deal, but the next one would be for a lot more money.
by Randy Richardson on Jun 16, 2007 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
i have no problem
and like it was said above - id sure rather pay him 13 mil than torii hunter.
he has to be one of the top 5 all time cloers -- with mo rivera, eck, hoffman, ___
i think he has a lot of good yrs left in him.
the saddest thing is that he may be our biggest trading chip this season :(
by knockoutking24 on Jun 16, 2007 12:26 AM CDT reply actions
Here I thought Adam would recognize
You know, the guy with 5 RBI's in a 7 run game?
"are you being sarcastic"
Hullabalooza
by thedirkatron on Jun 17, 2007 5:08 AM CDT up reply actions

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