Some late evening thoughts
Okay, a few more things I wanted to touch on this evening, in the aftermath of the deadline deals.
First, it is August 1...where the hell is Jason Botts? He better be in the lineup tomorrow, or else I'm giving Ben a case of Miller High Life and a couple of Red Bulls and sending him to Jon Daniels' house.
And with Tom Hicks now saying that he's not going to allow Sammy Sosa to be released, I expect apologies from all you poop-flinging Sosa monkey who insisted that this was a no-risk signing because if Sosa sucked and Jason Botts hit well in AAA, the team would just release Sosa and Botts would be up.
This is the worst case scenario -- and one that I feared from the time he arrived. Sosa isn't good enough for any other team to want him, but the team doesn't have the nads to bite the bullet and let him go, so they continue to waste ABs and a roster spot on him while Jason Botts destroys AAA pitching for the third year in a row. I told you so.
Next...if you haven't already, read zywica's post from earlier tonight. I'll wait...
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Okay. Here's the importance of these Latin teenagers. If you aren't drafting in the top several slots in the draft, it is real, real hard to draft future superstars, particularly positional players. The players with that sort of potential are generally off the board by the time the good teams back. So unless you plan on sucking for a while, you've got to find another way to get potential stars into your pipeline. Going and getting raw Latin players who are a couple of years younger than American high school draftees is the obvious choice.
That's important to keep in mind when talking about draft compensation. Jon Daniels said tonight that Elvis Andrus is a top 5 draft choice type talent, and I think he's probably spot on in that regard.
And for those of you carping that the Rangers would have been better off taking the draft choices instead of trading Eric Gagne, consider this...Engel Beltre, if he had been in this past June's draft, probably would have been a first round choice, and probably would have been off the board by the time the Rangers picked at #17. Given that the best the Rangers could get in compensation for Gagne is #16, that means that the Rangers got a player, in exchange for Beltre, better than any player they could have reasonably expected to get with the best draft choice they could have gotten as compensation for Gagne. Assuming, of course, that Gagne was a Type A, as we've been assuming, and further assuming that he didn't re-sign with the Rangers, and further assuming that he didn't sign with a team that signed another Type A or that finished in the bottom half of the majors (in which case we'd get a second rounder).
Oh, and getting Beltre instead of a 2008 draft choice also means not spending $1.2-1.6 million on a signing bonus, as well.
The Transaction Oracle likes the return the Rangers got for Teixeira, and is underwhelmed by the return for Gagne, which pretty much dovetails my reaction, as well.
Dave Cameron says the Teixeira deal was a "home run" for the Rangers, and calls the Gagne deal a win-win for both teams.
Keith Law is unimpressed with David Murphy and Kason Gabbard, but has good things to say about Beltre:
The BP chat session gang o' chatters didn't care for what the Rangers got for Gagne, but really killed Brian Cashman for letting this deal happen, saying that Ian Kennedy is the type of prospect you give up to get a difference maker in a deadline deal (and to keep a rival from getting a difference maker), and Cashman's inability to differentiate between a Kennedy-level prospect and a Chamberlain means he blew it here.
Jeff Passan lists the Rangers as one of the "winners" at the trade deadline, although he suggests that it might not save Daniels' job.
I don't know if Daniels' job is really in danger, but he certainly isn't acting like it is, given the way he's targeted long-term solutions in these deals rather than short-term fixes (other than Gabbard).
I don't know how the Rangers ended up with Beau Jones thrown into the deal with the Braves, but that's a pretty sweet little trade kicker. Jones was ranked #14 in the Braves' organization by BA coming into the season, and apparently was part of the deal because of Matt Harrison's barky shoulder. I have to wonder if this isn't a sign that John Schuerholz isn't planning on sticking around much longer...
Although he didn't really like the Teixeira trade this much, Tim MacMahon loves the Gagne trade because the Rangers got Gabbard, who MacMahon suggests will be heading up a rotation that includes Brandon McCarthy, Kam Loe, and Eric Hurley in 2010.
I'm still trying to figure out if he's kidding about that or not.
Kevin Sherrington has praise for the way Daniels negotiated at the deadline, and notes that even the Hicks critics will have to give him credit for the 8 year, $140 million contract extension he offered Teixeira.
What the hell is going on with Nelson Cruz? Hot streak? Did the light just come on all the sudden?
And what is in the water in Oklahoma? Is there anything the coaching staff down there can't fix? I'm ready to start sending terminal cancer patients up there for the coaches to lay hands on, or maybe sending the Redhawk coaching staff to Baghdad and let them straighten out the Sunni/Shi'i/Kurd conflict.
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I was
by dstar442005 on Aug 1, 2007 12:06 AM CDT 0 recs
I meant
by dstar442005 on
Aug 1, 2007 12:07 AM CDT
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Fabio Castillo
nice line
thats after going 6 and striking out 8 with 0 walks 2 ER's in his last appearance.
i like it. i like it a lot.
by Jayslick on Aug 1, 2007 12:12 AM CDT 0 recs
who
by dstar442005 on Aug 1, 2007 12:23 AM CDT 0 recs
He could be a pretty big deal
by zywica on
Aug 1, 2007 6:11 PM CDT
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Botts
but perhaps with how the deadline worked out and the rangers only having 22 men in the stadium to start the game kept botts from being activated for a day?
of course that doesnt explain why he played in oklahoma, i cant imagine if he was coming up tomorrow they would play him in oklahoma for the hell of it.
so... who knows.
but if its more than a couple days, yes the situation has officially reached the ridiculous point.
i want to see a lineup with cruz/salty/botts all in it and i want to see it now
by DSheppard on Aug 1, 2007 12:28 AM CDT 0 recs
It reached the ridiculous point...
by Adam J. Morris on
Aug 1, 2007 12:34 AM CDT
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read some of the new stuff
I expect to see botts no later than thursday and hope he is in everyday, not just against righties. rather that means sosa plays LF vs lefties or botts does.
by DSheppard on
Aug 1, 2007 12:34 AM CDT
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Sammy's role
Call a press conference, let him retire with a bunch of accolades, and let's get the Botts era rolling.
by RCCook on
Aug 1, 2007 12:52 AM CDT
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Just make him an..
by bflood36 on
Aug 1, 2007 9:34 AM CDT
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when and if botts gets in the lineup
no real leadoff guy here, but byrd is better than hairston so...
cf-byrd
2nd-kinsler
ss-young
1st-salty
rf-cruz
c-laird
lf-catt
dh-botts
3rd-metcalf
in my opinion that should be the lineup until blalock gets back but should be the lineup for the rest of the year...with a rotation looking like
millwood
mccarthy
rheino
loe
gabbard
by weslyenkid01 on Aug 1, 2007 12:36 AM CDT 0 recs
Schuerholz
by Randy Richardson on Aug 1, 2007 12:42 AM CDT 0 recs
CJ vs Mahay
by Walter Sobchak on
Aug 1, 2007 11:27 AM CDT
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Mahay
by Randy Richardson on
Aug 1, 2007 11:51 PM CDT
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Even so
by t ball on
Aug 2, 2007 12:27 AM CDT
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Gabbard and Gagne
Gabbard has injury issues. Did they get enough. Hello?
One quick snap of any crickety Gagne ligament and it's game over.
It's not confirmed that Gagne would be a Type A free agent either. In fact, if hurt later this season, he would have 3 years of mush for pitching stats. How does that yield 2 Type A draft picks? It probably would NOT.
by 3Bagger on Aug 1, 2007 12:43 AM CDT 0 recs
Gagne
by Randy Richardson on
Aug 1, 2007 12:48 AM CDT
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Gagne
Boston baseball is something Gagne's body has not tested. He didn't exactly need to reach-down-deep for the Rangers.
I loved the guy more than anyone this season, BUT...his arm and shoulder twitching makes me doubt his longer future. Pitching is painful under the best of circumstances. Even if you're healthy.
Stay tuned Mr. Theo! Thanks for the threesome.
by 3Bagger on
Aug 1, 2007 1:03 AM CDT
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Am I right ...
by shroomer on Aug 1, 2007 12:58 AM CDT 0 recs
Not sure about Nash
by Adam J. Morris on
Aug 1, 2007 1:00 AM CDT
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All but Nash
I think it is pretty much a sure thing they sign Borbon and Beavan, assuming the reports about them only being $100K apart are true. Ramirez will be a lot trickier since he probably wants first round money, but Hicks just saved tens of millions the last two days so they can't use the excuse they don't have the money. Bud will be very upset, but my guess is that 15 or more teams go way over slot to sign at least one pick, so I am not too worried about Bud's feelings.
by uthornfan on
Aug 1, 2007 1:02 AM CDT
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Saving $$$
by 3Bagger on
Aug 1, 2007 1:08 AM CDT
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Stuff like that last paragraph
Nelson Cruz is a beast.
by jamcadbury on Aug 1, 2007 1:06 AM CDT 0 recs
Noooo!
Whatever you do, don't send them to Iraq. You know, since Al Qaeda in Iraq* is determined to attack us here and all. We're going to need the OKC voodoo stateside to help protect the homeland... Whose home, I'm not quite sure. But someone's home is in danger! Raise the terror alert!
* Al Qaeda in Iraq is simply the name a group of insurgents adopted. There was no original tie to Al Qaeda Classic. So when Bush says that Al Qaeda in Iraq is determined to attack us here because they have in the past and that's why we have to fight them over there so they don't fight us over here, ignore every fucking word he spews. It's complete bullshit, blanketed with horse manure.
by RangerMoto on Aug 1, 2007 1:31 AM CDT 0 recs
Al Qaeda Iraq
by ghtd36 on
Aug 1, 2007 9:55 AM CDT
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Except...
by RangerMoto on
Aug 1, 2007 10:53 AM CDT
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politics in the middle of this great discussion?
by Walter Sobchak on
Aug 1, 2007 11:32 AM CDT
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nice little throw in there
by SteveP on
Aug 1, 2007 1:54 AM CDT
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Video
by uthornfan on
Aug 1, 2007 2:35 AM CDT
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Wondering...
Was it that Jones started in High A, got demolished, then went down to low A?
It appears he's been pitching low A for several weeks, but I wasn't sure what the exact course of this season's been for him...
by hightowersmith on
Aug 1, 2007 11:38 AM CDT
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I haven't really looked into it either
by shroomer on
Aug 1, 2007 12:05 PM CDT
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Jones
by uthornfan on
Aug 1, 2007 4:14 PM CDT
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Nate Silver
by hca4 on Aug 1, 2007 2:14 AM CDT 0 recs
I got the feeling
by uthornfan on
Aug 1, 2007 2:36 AM CDT
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Ron Washington loves Sosa
by Sharky on Aug 1, 2007 7:40 AM CDT 0 recs
Funny
by ghtd36 on
Aug 1, 2007 9:56 AM CDT
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Sosa....
Ok....when do I get my Wilkerson apology? ha.
by bdavison94 on Aug 1, 2007 10:39 AM CDT 0 recs








