Rangers expect to sign Beavan, Ramirez

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 14, 2007 9:54 PM CDT in News

T.R. Sullivan reports that the Rangers anticipate announcing deals with Neil Ramirez and Blake Beavan tomorrow.

He also says that Julio Borbon is expected to sign, but things with Borbon apparently aren't as far along as with the two pitchers. Negotiations are apparently also ongoing with John Gast, the Rangers' fifth rounder who was considered a potential first rounder until he had to undergo T-J surgery.

Update [2007-8-14 23:10:10 by Adam J. Morris]: -- Josh and Tom just said it is official, and an agreement has been reached with Beavan.

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Otsuka

He might not pitch again this year?

Ok, why the hell is the deadline 10:59 instead of 11:00?

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by t ball on Aug 14, 2007 9:57 PM CDT reply actions

Eastern Time zone

it would then be the 16th.

"It gets late early out there." - Yogi Berra

by JakeStrait on Aug 14, 2007 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions

That still leaves

59 seconds!

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by t ball on Aug 14, 2007 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions

pretty funny

as kevin costner said to the boston vendor in "Field of Dreams" - that's a good point.

"It gets late early out there." - Yogi Berra

by JakeStrait on Aug 14, 2007 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions

Nadel

Just said Beaven has OFFICIALLY signed.
woot

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by shroomer on Aug 14, 2007 10:00 PM CDT reply actions

So

I'm guessing we will see him this year...or no?

"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Aug 14, 2007 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions

I'd be surprised

2 weeks more of the AZRL
3 weeks for Spokane

nah, probably not

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by shroomer on Aug 14, 2007 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions

In Arlington??

Depends...how good is his bat? Can he play CF?

Must kill Moe, Wheeeee!

by Taylor on Aug 14, 2007 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Doubtful

If he followed the same pattern as Reed, Hunter and Main, he would throw bullpens for 10-14 days before throwing in a game. There are only two weeks left in the minor league seasons, so my guess is he makes his debut in instructional league.

by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2007 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Gast

I would be extremely happy if we got him signed. We just had one helluva draft...nice job JD and co.

"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Aug 14, 2007 10:01 PM CDT reply actions

I'm guessing 1.5 Mill...

by cmkelly29 on Aug 14, 2007 10:02 PM CDT reply actions

link

http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/trsullivan/2007/08/beavan_signs.html

by hightowersmith on Aug 14, 2007 10:09 PM CDT reply actions

Where can I find a list

of players that have signed? I want to know what's up with guys like Ocampo and Ranaudo, or are those guys going to college?

"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Aug 14, 2007 10:09 PM CDT reply actions

Draft database

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2007xteam.php?team=TEX

by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2007 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Thanks.

"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Aug 14, 2007 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Updates

It obviously isn't updated with Beavan yet, but the rest of it should be accurate.

by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions

O'Campo

Josh just said he has signed as well.

"Then I met some friends for a beer, went to a BoDeans's concert, and son of a vondruke, if I didn't leave him at the concert hall."

by RCCook on Aug 14, 2007 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Thanks

I've been looking all day to try and find a list like this. I'd been wanting to know if Jake Arrieta had signed yet.

by hurley325 on Aug 14, 2007 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions

Arrieta

I can't imagine he will sign. With Boras as his agent, he will be asking for first round money, which is where he was projected to be picked before he had an awful spring. I doubt he gets that type of money.

by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2007 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions

That is kind of my thinking

It would be really nice to see him back in Fort Worth next year for his senior season.

But also, the O's didn't have a pick in the 2nd or 3rd rounds, so they could have some extra money to give him. Although, that money will probably go toward Matt Wieters.

by hurley325 on Aug 15, 2007 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions

woo hoo

O'Campo signed.

"Jon Daniels is going to end up being the best thing to ever happen to the Texas Rangers." - me, a long time ago...

by Longhorn on Aug 14, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions

Yay!

by Brett Perryman on Aug 14, 2007 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Per Jamey

O'Campo has also signed.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 14, 2007 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions

holy fn s

I didn't think we had much of a shot at him.

Maybe we used Nash's money?

"Don't ever cross that hater TheDirkatron. His black heart sneers at reconciliation..." -Brian Thomas

by thedirkatron on Aug 14, 2007 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions

You guys don't care

However, as a college coach, this new deadline really sucks for college baseball. Now, more guys are going to wait until right until the deadline to sign.

With the scholarship situation the way it is, you need to get the most out of your money. Imagine if you've got your top junior pitcher and your best incoming freshman pitcher waiting until the deadline to sign.

Then, they both sign and your left with a crapload of money on the table and its too late to get anybody else.

by badradiorules on Aug 14, 2007 10:16 PM CDT reply actions

I thought it would be easier for coaches

because they would know for certain who would be on their staff sooner rather than wait until classes begin.

Am I missing something???

Must kill Moe, Wheeeee!

by Taylor on Aug 14, 2007 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Classes

Start next week.

by badradiorules on Aug 14, 2007 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Kyle O'Campo

also signed

by coolaid on Aug 14, 2007 10:17 PM CDT reply actions

O'Campo

Did Tom just say we signed O'Campo? I missed the first part of what he said, but he gave his stats. I don't know why he would have brought him up if we hadn't signed him.

by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2007 10:17 PM CDT reply actions

O'Campo report from Baseball America

22. Kyle O'Campo, rhp (National rank: 123)
School: Poly HS, Riverside, Calif. Class: Sr.
B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-2. Wt.: 175. Birthdate: 4/9/88.
Scouting Report: O'Campo is part of Cal State Fullerton's recruiting class, and like infielder Christian Colon, he could slip through to the Titans if his expectations and the draft reality don't match up. O'Campo's resume was impressive entering the spring, with the Aflac Classic and Area Code Games among his appearances. He has a quick arm and projectable 6-foot-3, 195-pound frame, and his velocity is as good or better than any prep pitcher in Southern California. He has touched 94 mph in the past and regularly pitches in the 88-91 mph range. He throws both a slider and a curveball, and scouts like the slider a bit better at present, as he's shown a feel for throwing it for strikes or burying it out of the zone. O'Campo's mechanics don't engender confidence, either that he'll throw consistent strikes with his fastball or add velocity despite his frame. He has a head snap that caused him to struggle to find a consistent release point. If his delivery can't be smoothed out, O'Campo might end up as a set-up man down the line.

by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2007 10:20 PM CDT reply actions

and video

on him?

by weslyenkid01 on Aug 14, 2007 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions

Video

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2007/index.jsp

Go to draft tracker and click on Rangers. Scroll down to him and there is a video link.

by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2007 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Another take from Perfect Game

From Perfect Game:

Kyle O'Campo is a 2007 RHP from Riverside Poly HS, residing in Corona, CA, with a 6'3" 185 lb. frame. Ranked #26 among PG National Top 100 pitchers. Body - lean, lanky, and wiry, projectable. Pitching - over the top slot, very quick loose arm, deep extension backside, cranks it up, free and easy delivery, FB very lively at plate, good late life, plus spin on breaking ball, ranged CB velocity, all appeared to be CBs, threw some very hard, good down bite, shape stayed pretty consistent, good feel of CU, good fade action. Early draft potential.

by FirebatM3 on Aug 14, 2007 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions

So

any word on Drew Pomeranz or Anthony Ranuado? If we can sign another, plus John Gast and Neil Ramirez, it'd be one heck of a draft for young pitching.

by FirebatM3 on Aug 14, 2007 10:37 PM CDT reply actions

I know Borbon is supposed to sign,

but what happens to him if he doesn't?, does he play for the Ft. Worth Cats or something?

by sprite on Aug 14, 2007 10:48 PM CDT reply actions

Goes back to

Tennessee for his senior year.

by FirebatM3 on Aug 14, 2007 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh,

i thought it was like the NBA,once you sign with an agent you can't go back, guess not. Thanks.

by sprite on Aug 14, 2007 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions

It is, sort of

Once you sign with an agent you can't go back to school. At least that is the rule. However, Boras is not technically Borbon's agent, he is his advisor. That means he can go back to school. While there is no difference in an agent and an advisor, the way the rules are written make it possible for him to return to Tenn.

by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2007 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Well,

that's a pretty big loop hole, thanks for clarifying.

by sprite on Aug 14, 2007 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah

I am not sure what the official difference is between an advisor and an agent. No one, to the best of my knowledge, has ever been prevented from returning to school due to having an agent. I think they are just two terms for the same thing.

by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2007 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions

Awesome news.

Ctrl - V

by Dustin on Aug 14, 2007 11:01 PM CDT reply actions

Beavan, about 1.5 mil signing bonus

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/wires/08/14/2010.ap.bba.rangers.beavan.1st.ld.wri tethru.0191/

by sprite on Aug 14, 2007 11:11 PM CDT reply actions

Signing bonus

I looked up last year's #17 pick, Matt Antonelli, and he signed for $1.575 million. So it looks like Beavan signed for slot money, if not slightly below.

"Then I met some friends for a beer, went to a BoDeans's concert, and son of a vondruke, if I didn't leave him at the concert hall."

by RCCook on Aug 14, 2007 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Slot

This years slot was about 1.4 million for Beavan's position. He signed for right about 2006 slot value.

by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2007 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Ah

I was thinking slot would be slightly higher than that.

"Then I met some friends for a beer, went to a BoDeans's concert, and son of a vondruke, if I didn't leave him at the concert hall."

by RCCook on Aug 14, 2007 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Slots

Baseball reduced the slots by 10% this year, which is one of the reasons for all of the hold outs. It seems quite a few of the players that signed for over slot this year just held out signed for the 2006 slot.

by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2007 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions

now...

we need to get ramirez and borbon... i know ramirez wont get any starts because its to late, but what about borbon, when he signs tomorrow where will he go?

by weslyenkid01 on Aug 14, 2007 11:26 PM CDT reply actions

Spokane

If he signs a 2007 contract, my guess is he goes to Spokane.

by uthornfan on Aug 14, 2007 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions

He isn't going to play

It's too late in the season.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 14, 2007 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions

so no shot

of seeing what he can do this year

by weslyenkid01 on Aug 14, 2007 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Why not?

Seems to me a lot of position players hit the field a day or two after signing...

Am I wrong, or is this something where you know this specific guy won't play this year?

"Don't ever cross that hater TheDirkatron. His black heart sneers at reconciliation..." -Brian Thomas

by thedirkatron on Aug 14, 2007 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't know anything specific

But why in the world would you rush him in on a 2007 contract when you would only get maybe two weeks, tops, out of him? Just sign him to an '08 deal, as long as that doesn't affect instructional league.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 15, 2007 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions

Why do that?

I thought under the new CBA it doesn't matter if you sign an '07 or an '08 deal... you have to go on the 40 at the same time.

Is ther another reason to sign him to an '08 deal? I thought the extra year before he becomes rule-5 eligible was the only reason to sign a guy to a "next year" contract.

I may be wrong, though.

"Don't ever cross that hater TheDirkatron. His black heart sneers at reconciliation..." -Brian Thomas

by thedirkatron on Aug 15, 2007 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions

I just don't see it

I can't think of cases where position players signed and rushed to play the last eight or so games. I'll have to look and see, maybe some have.

Would be cool to see him in a couple of games though.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 15, 2007 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions

Has it crossed your mind ...

... considering the beating his skillz took by Rangers fans upon being drafted, that it might be better to NOT sign him and get another pick next summer?

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by shroomer on Aug 15, 2007 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions

Sure

This is all kind of based on the assumption that he does sign.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 15, 2007 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions

I know my fingers are still crossed

I will not get my comeuppance!

by Brian Thomas on Aug 15, 2007 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions

Considering the haul of talent

they got in the trades along with the rest of the draft I'd be ok with that. Especially if they only picked him because they thought he was the right pick at that spot instead of because they really believed he would develop into a major league talent.

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by t ball on Aug 15, 2007 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions

Also

this is barely related, but it's going to be interesting to see how BA handles all of these guys not playing in their top 100. It's one thing to try to rate a David Price based on his college play, but how in the world would you rank a Vitters or Moustakas or any one of several HS pitchers who were high picks but didn't pitch? Seems even harder than placing Maybin a couple of years ago and you have to multiply it by, I don't know, six or eight?

Maybe we'll see fewer new draftees on there than usual.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 15, 2007 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions

Signing bonus for Beavan $1.4975 mil...

per Jonathan Mayo's MLB draft blog...

Link

by jcir454 on Aug 14, 2007 11:38 PM CDT reply actions

Great Job Rangers!

So they signed him for barely above slot. I guess they knew like the rest of us that Navarro was simply a ploy because it wouldn't have helped him at all.

by rangeressary on Aug 14, 2007 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Sweet

We signed Captain Wonderful for less than 1.5mm.

Wouldn't have thought that would be possible given the way he was talking himself up.

"Don't ever cross that hater TheDirkatron. His black heart sneers at reconciliation..." -Brian Thomas

by thedirkatron on Aug 15, 2007 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions

Okay

"Captain Wonderful" ain't bad - could be a keeper nick
C-Wun maybe? C1? lol

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by shroomer on Aug 15, 2007 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions

lol

I can't decide whether I like C-Wun or c1 better, though.

"Don't ever cross that hater TheDirkatron. His black heart sneers at reconciliation..." -Brian Thomas

by thedirkatron on Aug 15, 2007 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions

C1

for sure and it is high quality

by bushe on Aug 15, 2007 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions

How about Beaver?

Kind of puts him in his place as just a kid.

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by t ball on Aug 15, 2007 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions

how about

"Total Douchebag" or "Sits Alone on Bench"?

I like hamburgers.

by Bob Loblaw on Aug 15, 2007 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions

Works for me

How about Tommy John? Or TJ Douchebag?

Are you wearing a grocery bag? I have misplaced my pants.

by i hit straight ball very much on Aug 15, 2007 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions

did he sign an '07 or an '08 contract?

McLovin...What a great name, sounds like a sexy hamburger

by Lonerangers on Aug 15, 2007 12:03 AM CDT reply actions

I don't think it affects much anymore

but I'm assuming it's '08 because they said he would report to Surprise for training but not play any this season.

by rangeressary on Aug 15, 2007 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions

I really, really want Gast

Really hoping they can pull that off.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 15, 2007 12:47 AM CDT reply actions

if we sign Gast, Ranaudo, Pomeranz

Im gonna party really fuckin hard man.......Gast is a for sure 1st rounder when he re enters the draft if we dont sign him......zito#2, lets do it right.......and those other guys could be Noah Lowry's....the money cant be big enough to ditch that much potential

"I'm too God Damn Drunk to taste this Chicken" -Colonel Sanders

by slash on Aug 15, 2007 3:32 AM CDT up reply actions

For what it's worth

I don't know if the Rangers or Hendricks brothers or someone got a hold of Beavan, but his comments upon signing were much more level headed and sounded like a normal, nice kid.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 15, 2007 1:34 AM CDT reply actions

i noticed that when

i was reading the article on the Rangers website

by coolaid on Aug 15, 2007 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions

PLEASE GOD GET GAST!!!!!

and Ranaudo and Pomeranz, those guys cant be asking for too much......come on JD, that would be like Christmas if we get these guys signed......BUT GET GAST SIGNED FOR SURE!!!!!!!!! thats gonna suck, when he's a 1st rounder either next year or in three years.......if we dont sign him, the other guys prolly will be too in 3 years.......

"I'm too God Damn Drunk to taste this Chicken" -Colonel Sanders

by slash on Aug 15, 2007 3:29 AM CDT reply actions