9/12/07 game day thread

by Adam J. Morris on Sep 12, 2007 4:44 PM CDT in News Comment 92 comments

Lineup up...

Edinson Volquez v. Justin Verlander...

Go Rangers...

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now, THAT'S... a line-up...

by oc on Sep 12, 2007 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

about as good

as it's gonna get until blalock plays 3b

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by gossamer on Sep 12, 2007 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Botts

I'd like to see more of him since he has been hot lately.

by brentash on Sep 12, 2007 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

agree...

...i've been one of bottsy's biggest critics... but i agree... he's been swinging a good bat lately...

problem is... there's no where to put him...

i think Hank gives you a better chance to win hitting DH... and Cat's already got left covered... and he hits righties better...

by oc on Sep 12, 2007 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but...

....isn't it more important to evaluate Botts at this point than it is Catalanotto.

And Byrd's been playing everyday. He could sit every third or fourth game and let Murphy play CF and Botts COF.

by Brian Hayes on Sep 12, 2007 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

could do without Laird...and Salty playing 1st

by slash on Sep 12, 2007 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep...

I'd put Cat at 1B, Salty at CA, Botts in LF.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 12, 2007 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Edinson Volquez

goes up against a Cy Young award candidate for the 3rd time in a row. He won the first two, lets see if he can finish the sweep.

by brentash on Sep 12, 2007 4:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wash

I thought he liked to play the hot bat wheres botts

by Garcia34 on Sep 12, 2007 5:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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by rentz on Sep 12, 2007 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

volquez

man he's got some zip on his fastball today

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by rentz on Sep 12, 2007 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

thats why

thats why sheff is a jerk

by Garcia34 on Sep 12, 2007 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

whoa....

there's two Garcia's here. Weird.

by Garcia on Sep 12, 2007 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually thought

that guy was you with a new name.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sheff

still the 3rd most intimidating player in the AL.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 6:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Who do you have 1-2?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 12, 2007 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

A-Rod and Manny

easily.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

A-Rod yes

Manny...I would put Vlad ahead of him.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 12, 2007 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Meh

maybe it's because of the lineup Vlad hits in, but for a team not named the Rangers, I'd still think Manny has more of the "oh shit" factor.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but I will still go with Vlad because there is no one else in that lineup that scares you...Manny has Papi (if healty). Agree to disagree but you don't want to see either one with the game on the line.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 12, 2007 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

Mainly, you don't throw him a 2-0 fastball on the plate.

Time does funny things. The worst of which is, it keeps moving when you don't.

by Ed Coffin on Sep 12, 2007 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yahoo can't spell Volquez's name

They spell it "Edison." That irritates me. Respect Edinson, beeeotches.

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by WyoRanger on Sep 12, 2007 6:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

why

do you have to love murph and kinsler
its all about the high socks

by Garcia34 on Sep 12, 2007 6:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Murph....

just keeps finding ways to get on.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 12, 2007 6:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Seriously laird?

you swing at the first pitch? A high FB at that? One that you haven't been able to hit in 3 months? Seriously?

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 6:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

nice SNL feel, good skit

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 12, 2007 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh really

the only good weekend update skit in the last 10 years.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

SNL isn't what it used to be that's for sure

but it still has it's moments

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by slc ranger on Sep 12, 2007 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Much better inning.

Volquez keeps throwing strikes. You've got to love it.

by Garcia on Sep 12, 2007 6:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice, quick inning

for Eddy there. Was ahead of all three hitters.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 6:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Verlander is just filthy

this game may already be over unless the Rangers can get to the Tiger pen.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 12, 2007 6:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Not really

his FB isn't really all there. We're justing swinging at too many pitches right now.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didn't watch the game

but I did see Verlander strike out Kinsler with a 96 MPH heater on sportscenter. Is that his typical stuff? If not, what does he usually sit at, 98?

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by Chase Irwin on Sep 12, 2007 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Verlander

When I have seen him he is usually 94-97, but he routinely hits 98 and 99 when he needs to. Early in tonights game he was in the low 90s but by the mid innings he was really bringing it.

by uthornfan on Sep 12, 2007 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

a foot from a tie game

murphy......like gmj and Derosa last year, you just keep waiting for him to stop hitting, but he just keeps it going

by slash on Sep 12, 2007 7:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Murph

got robbed. Damn wall.

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 12, 2007 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow Verlander struck out Laird

we should just give up now.....I mean the guy struck out Gerald Laird! The God Damn Jet!!!!

by slash on Sep 12, 2007 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

DeRosa

He did stop hitting last year....265/.333/.423 post-ASB.

by Adam J. Morris on Sep 12, 2007 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

didnt say he didnt stop

just used him as an example for Murphy....."You keep waiting for him to stop".......I expect Murphy to stop sometime too, obviously......I guess it came out wrong, didnt mean it that way

by slash on Sep 12, 2007 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

NIce

97! on pudge

by Garcia34 on Sep 12, 2007 7:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Eddy V

badass

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 7:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fast pace game

all ready in the fifth inning.

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 12, 2007 7:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

OT Feldman had MRI on his knee....

he is really concerned about it. Team site says Wash and Jamie Reed aren't worried....probably because he is well.....Scott Feldman.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 12, 2007 7:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

We gotta rally and get Eddy this win

how big of a confidence boost would it be? he gives up 2 in the first and shut them out for the rest of the game to defeat a potential CY Young winner.......that would be a hell of a first 3 games for Volquez

by slash on Sep 12, 2007 7:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Volquez lookin right...

Lots of first pitch strikes, challenging guys...Really flawless except the Sheffield AB...

Maybe the kid finally has it right...

by N41D on Sep 12, 2007 7:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Timo perez?

why didn't we tag up on that?

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 7:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Because

Murph was on deck!

Yeah, well at least I'm housebroken.

by HypoLuxa on Sep 12, 2007 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How deep was Hank's fly ball?

I'm on MLB gametracker and it looks like it should've been deep enough for Young to score.

by Inkara1 on Sep 12, 2007 7:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

it was a shallow fly ball

no way Young could have tagged up.

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 12, 2007 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Murph!!!!!!!!!!!

New cleanup hitter!!!!

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 12, 2007 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

............dear god.........

by slash on Sep 12, 2007 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good job, Murphy

by Inkara1 on Sep 12, 2007 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Especially with Laid coming up next

One man, five tools, one pitch, no RBIs.

by Inkara1 on Sep 12, 2007 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's just sit him

while he has any trace of trade value. Then, this winter, he can tell everyone about how Wash messed him up, and we can play that card to get someone to trade for his potential.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

read my mind.....

by slash on Sep 12, 2007 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Once again

when you suck, please don't swing at the first pitch.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 7:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Very funny

I have extra innings. always stuck with other teams broadcasters
they were talkin about walkin murphy and being real careful with him

by Garcia34 on Sep 12, 2007 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Detroit's team

I like them, better than almost any other team I've heard this year. probably second to only Arizona's team.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like

the WhiteSox crew. They make me laugh. Put it on the board! YES!!

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 12, 2007 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok

whose alternate ID are you. Nobody admits to liking the white sox unless they're trolls.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

my guess is......

it's an alias of musclefag.....or just some 12 year old who who doesnt know any better....and thinks it's cool to be drunk, so he acts like he is on the internet.....

by slash on Sep 12, 2007 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

bullshit

that first pitch was a strike

by BillyBobisdrunk on Sep 12, 2007 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Damn

lost that in a hurry.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

oh well

You are hearing me talk.

by SteveP on Sep 12, 2007 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Magglio

was clearly sitting on the change, I wonder why we didn't go with a curve or with a FB since he was having trouble catching up to it.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

but

He did put that pitch right where laird wanted it

by Garcia34 on Sep 12, 2007 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

and Ordonez was waiting for it, it's what happens when you struggle to get your FB over and scrap your curve.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice show of composure by Volquez ...

after the Maggs bomb. Pretty impressive for a guy that's been knocked for having head issues.

by Athos on Sep 12, 2007 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

does

anyone know his pitch count

by Garcia34 on Sep 12, 2007 7:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

low 90s

i think

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As long

as he hits his spots I'm happy

by Garcia34 on Sep 12, 2007 7:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Still a decent outing

he's shown that he can throw that changeup for a strike, but he's still prone to bouts of wildness with the FB, and that curve is looking better and better, and he can get both the changeup and the curve down. That's pretty impressive for a guy who had no third pitch a year ago.

The fastball command is troubling, but it's got such heavy movement and life that it's never going to be a 100% controllable pitch.

All in all, you can see the trip back to the minors did wonders for him. He needs to work on his delivery so he can be more consistant with the FB, but he's looking a lot better than he did a year ago.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 7:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Verlander

what's wrong with him? Is it just tonight or has his velocity been down for awhile now? Is it dead arm?

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 7:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

maybe

but he hit 98 earlier

by Garcia34 on Sep 12, 2007 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That Sheffield AB

was pretty awesome.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 8:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Mendoza

fooled him with the sinker on the first pitch and blew the third pitch right by him. Very filthy stuff for that at bat.

by uthornfan on Sep 12, 2007 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mendoza

He put together a nice inning and has a nasty sinker.

by rangerfan09 on Sep 12, 2007 8:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It's ok Murph...

that just drops ya down to a paltry .410 :)

"He is the kind of guy who is a perfect fit to pair with Jaramillo" Evan Grant on David Murphy 8/29/07

by LAMuscleFag on Sep 12, 2007 8:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

GAME SUMMARY

Eddy V threw two bad pitches... of course, he did put those three other batters on...

David Murphy continues to impress...

... and i am absolutely sick of Gerald Laird.

by oc on Sep 12, 2007 8:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

one of those pitches

changeup to Ordonez was right where Laird wanted it. The problem is, it was right where Mags expected it.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly...

... do you suppose Jerrod S. would have called a different pitch?

what was the count?

by oc on Sep 12, 2007 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

1-0

after walking 2 straight.

I honestly don't know. Eddy was getting the changeup over and not the FB, but Mags haven't touched the fast ball and the time he did even make contact it was a GDIP. Armed with powerful hindsight, I'd say it was a badly called pitch, but it was a change in the corner. 99% of the time, it's a good pitch.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

indeed...

... but, if Mags wasn't hitting the fastball, shouldn't you just come at him with that?

by oc on Sep 12, 2007 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No if you're really

not getting the pitch over. It's a hard decision, we'll just leave it at that.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 12, 2007 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep... overthinking this...

... just hate that we lost 2 of these 3...

we were riding a hot streak... and we had every reason to... as the teams we had been beating had been playing pretty substandard baseball...

but, i knew once we played Detoit and Anaheim again, we would find out if this team was finally breaking out of it at the plate, or if this was some sort of fluke...

with two consecutive, lame-ass losses where we could only muster 1 run... i guess i shouldn't be convinced...

by oc on Sep 12, 2007 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it was a 1-0 change-up...

...i guess he just hung it up there...

i don't know... i would have probably thrown junk on 1-0...

or you could come in with a fastball to even the count...

but it was Mags... pitching to him is no picnic.

by oc on Sep 12, 2007 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

...oh yeah...

...and if you're gonna lose one of these three games, it's probably better to put your "B" line-up against one of the AL's best pitchers, instead of a Double-A call-up...

yeah, yeah... i know it was the second game of a double-header, and people were probably tired of running around the bases in Game 1... but, sheesh man...

... if that wasn't mailing it in...

by oc on Sep 12, 2007 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs