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Well, I'm back from Durango, and in one piece.  What I learned from my attempts to ski this past week is, just because you were good at something when you were 8 years old doesn't mean you'll be good at it almost 30 years later.  I don't think I've ever felt so old and out of shape in my life...

Many thanks to zywica for filling in while I was gone...and if you haven't already, make sure you check out his piece last night on the Rangers' pitching situation, which I think is about as good a breakdown of where the staff stands as you'll see...

I see the A's continued their teardown.  The Kotsay trade is interesting...and I'm not sure what to think about the return.  Joey Devine got a grade B from John Sickels, who had him as the #5 prospect in the Braves system, but he didn't crack BA's Braves top 10 list, and Bill Ballew called him a "situational reliever" who can't get lefties out enough to be a closer.

If Kotsay is healthy after back surgery, then the Braves got a very good defensive centerfielder who can hit a little.  If he's not...well, then, they are paying $2 million (the A's are apparently picking up the other $5 million plus owed to Kotsay) and giving up a relief prospect for nothing much.  

There apparently is some discussion out there that the Cubs are interested in Marlon Byrd.  If the Cubs would give up anything decent for him, I'd be willing to give Byrd up...

I know there's a lot of Byrd love out there, and people who want to see him play every day, but he was out-hit by Nelson Cruz in the second half of last season, put up just a 710 OPS on the road, and even in his "breakout" 2007 season put up just a .275 EQA, which isn't anything special for a left fielder (and, realistically, he's not good enough defensively to play center every day).

Byrd's line drive rate was lower in 2007 than his career average, with his walk rate being lower and his strikeout rate being higher than it has been over the course of his career.  And despite that, he posted a .370 BABIP...the best of his career, 40 points better than his career average, and completely unsustainable.  

If Byrd had had a BABIP of .320 last year -- about what would be expected, given his line drive rate -- he'd have put up about a 725 OPS in 2007, and we wouldn't be having a discussion about whether he should be a starter (or whether he'd be worth flipping to the Cubs for a prospect).  

And you know what's interesting?  In the second half of last season, Byrd had a BABIP of .316, and an OPS of 726.  In other words, exactly would you'd expect from Byrd, given his line drive rate last season.

The second half Byrd is the real Marlon Byrd...a guy who has some value as a bench player, and could maybe be put into a platoon role with someone like Frankie the Cat, but not a regular.  

Given that the Rangers have David Murphy and Brandon Boggs already around who profile as 4th outfielder types, and a 40 man roster crunch (with two spots needing to be cleared if Jason Jennings ends up signing a major league deal), if you can get a decent prospect from the Cubs for Byrd, I say you pull the trigger.  

You can either keep Nelson Cruz around to split time with Cat, or else, if Milton Bradley isn't going to be ready to play the field every day, let David Murphy be your right fielder, Bradley your DH, and have Jason Botts and Cat platoon in left field until Bradley is ready to go.

Evan Grant has a blog entry up with #14 on his prospect list, Matt Harrison.  I think that Grant (and some Rangers fans) are underrating him a bit, because he is a guy who hasn't been in the system long, and did little after being acquired (at least, prior to the AFL).  

Looking around, John Sickels has Harrison ranked 5th, and Kevin Goldstein has Harrison ranked 9th (as does Scott Lucas and Jamey Newberg, while z has him 11th, as does the LSB community.  And remember, Harrison was in BA's top 100 last year, as well...

Finally, Jim Reeves has some baseball notes in his "Postcards from the Ledge."

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Zywica's list; Byrd; Reeves
I vote that he does a similar rundown for the position players that will be in camp soon.

Sell high on Byrd.  The Rangers have lots of 4th outfielder types and it would help clear up the logjam giving them more time to evaluate Cruz, Botts, Murphy, etc.

I'm not accusing him of anything, but it's funny that Reeves posted that little tidbit about the clubhouse beer ban right after Sullivan did in his Friday blog entry.

hurlerhurley has to drink a 6 pack just to have one for each of his usernames.

by t ball on Jan 13, 2008 12:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Concur...
the Rangers would really be sellling high on him right now. I don't think there will be anytime during the year when his value would be higher than it is now.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 13, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Byrd
not disagreeing much but you always talk about production from a corner outfielder. How is Murphy a better bet than Byrd in right. I agree that if the Cubs are willing to overpay for Byrd then go ahead but I think they're smarter than that. I still don't see the bad defense point also.

by meatbonelefty on Jan 13, 2008 12:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They really don't have to over pay
As long as the Rangers get a useable part back it clears up a roster spot on the 40.
Must read. "Only the Ball was White" Boomer Sooner!

by boomer1 on Jan 13, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Murphy
I'm not a big Murphy believer, either.

But he's younger, cheaper, under team control for longer, a better defender, and more likely to be a viable contributor -- a legit 4th outfielder -- for the team in 2010.

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 13, 2008 1:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs list...
I can't seem to find Kevin Goldstein's listing on the Cubs minor leaguers, but below is a link to John Sickels's assessment of the Cubs minor league system. It looks like there are lots of guys with a C rating. Maybe that's in the range for what Byrd's worth. Thoughts?

http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2007/11/19/01814/657#commenttop

by YourNameHere on Jan 13, 2008 1:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't know
I was thinking someone like Donald Veal before I really drilled down the numbers.

Now...I'm thinking less...

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 13, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs
Why would they even want Byrd. Don't they already have Matt Murton who should be starting?

by meatbonelefty on Jan 13, 2008 1:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Murton...
... cannot play CF, and Byrd can. Simple as that.

Donnie Veal -- way too high a price. Try again.

Al, visiting from Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Al on Jan 13, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.....
I agree that would be a steal for the Rangers....

I think Adam acknowledges that, too.

Really, anything useful is fine in return for Byrd.

We don't really need his skill set right now (a non-contender), and we have potential replacements in Murphy and Boggs.

It sure would be GREAT to get Veal for Byrd, but I even if it's a C+ or C prospect who doesn't have to be put on the 40, I think JD should pull the trigger.

Req

by Requiem on Jan 13, 2008 4:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mark Pawalek?
What happened to him last year?

He's the guy I originally wanted over Mayberry in '05, so unless he died or something, I'd like taking a shot on him.

"God plays by his own rules, folks. And HGH is f***ing legal as hell up in heaven." -Andy Pettitte

by thedirkatron on Jan 14, 2008 8:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

if they give one of these...then do it!
I love Byrd and would want him to stick around b/c I think he's talented and is a good teammate...but if the Cubs would part with one of these three then I'd do it.

Tyler Colvin, OF, Grade B
Jeff Samardzija, RHP, Grade B-
Sam Fuld, OF, Grade C+

Colvin is a talented OF...Fuld was awesome in the AFL and is really coming on strong I believe.  He's a CF.  And Samardzija, well it's obvious, he's got a ton of talent but struggled a bit last season, so maybe we could get him.
Or maybe we could throw in Laird with Byrd and get Colvin/Fuld and Samardzija.  I would DEFINITELY do that one...but don't know if the Cubs would.

by ChrisH on Jan 13, 2008 1:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

no chance at all
They wouldn't even give up Colvin for Brian Robert. Good idea to add somebody like Laird to a deal like that  but they seem set at Catcher

by meatbonelefty on Jan 13, 2008 1:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.
Don't really need Laird.

Got any major league starting pitchers you could throw into this deal?

Not that any of the three mentioned are untouchable, but they're worth more than Marlon Byrd alone.

Al, visiting from Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Al on Jan 13, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you.....
see anybody on our roster we could package Byrd with to get any of thos three or Veal? Maybe Padilla?

by meatbonelefty on Jan 13, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with Padilla...
... is that we already have him. His name is Jason Marquis. (Except that Marquis doesn't get injured.)
Al, visiting from Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Al on Jan 13, 2008 5:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...
I seriously doubt it. The Rangers traded away Edinson Volquez recently to acquire Josh Hamilton. Texas is banking on comebacks from Kevin Millwood and Vicente Padilla (both to their 2006 forms) and improvements from Brandon McCarthy and Kason Gabbard. They're also hoping that Jason Jennings is fully healthy.

Unless Luis Mendoza, Armando Galarraga or Kameron Loe look appealing, the Rangers, if they are looking to trade Marlon Byrd, will probably have to settle for less.

by YourNameHere on Jan 13, 2008 6:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...
Byrd is not going to bring a whole lot by himself. He needs a deal sweetener thrown in.

An idea: what if we threw in a position prospect, like say... John Whittleman, or maybe Kevin Mahar to sweeten the deal, is there any chance we might get anything decent?

"The most important things in life are the things that are the least important" - Yogi Berra

by lonestarJon on Jan 13, 2008 7:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mahar
If anyone wanted him, they'd have put a claim in on him when he was put on waivers a couple of months ago.

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 13, 2008 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha... Good point.
That was a big oversight on my part. Maybe John Mayberry Jr.? I might get crucified for suggesting that - I know he was our #1 pick at one point, but I'm not exactly high on him. Actually, I really don't think he's ever going to be more than the next Nelson Cruz. Too many flaws in his swing.
"The most important things in life are the things that are the least important" - Yogi Berra

by lonestarJon on Jan 13, 2008 8:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

how about a useful relief pitcher?
we have a couple of those that we could package w/ Byrd?
Juevos Daniels: biggest stones in the business.

by tricer on Jan 13, 2008 7:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

bout damn time
you got your bitch ass back home
"It's really unfair. It's my team. It's my quarterback. If you guys do that, man, it's unfair. We lost as a team. We lost as a team, man." wah wah wah Cry Baby

by LtDan on Jan 14, 2008 9:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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