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My thoughts on the Ryan deal

In the movie "Knocked Up," Alison (Katherine Heigl) asks Ben (Seth Rogen) why he thinks Alison's brother-in-law, Pete, is cheating on Alison's sister, Debbie.

Ben says, "Because Debbie's a pain in the ass and Pete's awesome!"

It seems to me that that is the justification for a lot of the excitement about Nolan Ryan coming on board...if you ask why someone thinks this is so great, the answer seems to be a variation of "Because Tom Hicks is a pain in the ass and Nolan Ryan's awesome!"

Yeah, Tom Hicks has been a crappy owner, and there's no need to re-hash all the reasons why.

But does Nolan Ryan coming on board really do anything, you know, good for the franchise?

Yeah, yeah, there's the whole credibility thing, the restoring the faith of the fans and all that...but that's begging the question.

Is there any reason to believe that the franchise is better off with Nolan Ryan as team president than before?

On the business side, there's reason to be optimistic...Ryan has seemed to have done a very solid job overseeing the Round Rock Express and Corpus Christi Hooks, although there would seem to be a pretty big jump from overseeing the business side of a couple of minor league franchises and running a major league team worth several hundred million dollars.

But a lot of folks also seem convinced that having Ryan involved on the baseball side of the Rangers is going to be a positive, as well.  And for the life of me, I can't understand why.

Yes, he was a major league player for twenty five years or whatever.  You could say the same thing about Julio Franco.  Should he be team president?  If not, what's the difference?

A common theme seems to be, well, he's a good sounding board for Jon Daniels, and if he'd been here a couple of years ago maybe Chris Young and Adrian Gonzalez wouldn't have been traded.  But that ignores the fact that it was the veteran baseball men (particularly Buck Showalter) who pushed for that deal.  And that also ignores the fact that there's zero evidence to lead one to believe that Ryan is going to be better than any other random former major leaguer at evaluating talent and making personnel decisions.  Ryan wasn't, after all, really involved in the baseball side of things with the Astros.

My biggest concern about this has been that it is a sign that the Rangers were shifting directions yet again, that after 6 months or so of being committed to rebuilding and the plan Daniels has put in place, someone else is being brought in to implement his own plan and remake the team according to his own vision.  The contract extension for Daniels alleviates some of that concern, along with reading that Ryan is 61 years old...maybe I'm wrong, but it seems unlikely someone of that age is going to want to come in, tear everything down, and completely start over.

But if that's the case, then what is Ryan's role on the baseball side going to be?  If a miracle occurs and the Rangers are a game out of first place in late July, while the Indians are sitting at .500, and Mark Shapiro calls to talk about dealing C.C. Sabathia, who is he going to deal with...Daniels, or Ryan?  Are Ryan and Hicks going to have to sign off on every deal now?  Is Ryan going to want to be involved in negotiations?  Is this going to turn into a situation like the ones in Baltimore and New York the past few years, where deals can't be done because it isn't clear who has authority to do a deal?

We're going to have to see how this plays out, and how everything fits into place.  Hopefully, Ryan is basically a Tom Scheiffer type, someone who runs the business side while having just a light touch on the baseball end, someone who lets the people in place do their job.

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the last paragraph was a good assessment
If you watched the press conference Hicks basically said Ryan loves what JD has done.  I doubt Ryan is coming here to shake things up.

And your comment about Julio Franco doesn't make sense.  What has Julio done for baseball?  Has he thrown 7 no-hitters or own the strikeout record? Or is he a hall of famer or future hall of famer?  Probably not.

Dont be quick to think what Im saying is stupid but Ryans credintials are way better.  To make an argument out of how long the were in the MLB is just plain stupid.

Ban Dr Pepper NYTXFAN

by NYTXFAN on Feb 6, 2008 8:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What does being in the
Hall of Fame have to do with being a President of a MLB baseball team?

I really hope those 7 no-hitters help him make business decisions.  

Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.

by coolaid on Feb 6, 2008 8:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?
And your comment about Julio Franco doesn't make sense.  What has Julio done for baseball?  Has he thrown 7 no-hitters or own the strikeout record? Or is he a hall of famer or future hall of famer?  Probably not.

Dont be quick to think what Im saying is stupid but Ryans credintials are way better.

Why does throwing 7 no hitters give one better credentials to be the team president?

by Adam J. Morris on Feb 6, 2008 8:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why even base your hatred on this assessment
"Yes, he was a major league player for twenty five years or whatever.  You could say the same thing about Julio Franco.  Should he be team president?  If not, what's the difference?"

The difference is AJM that Nolan has prior business success and is an icon.  If used for nothing more than face for this team so be it.  To say he isn't fit to run it and compare him to Julio is just plain wrong.  Nolan had a huge successful pro career and there is nothing to say he wouldn't have it as a team President.

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by NYTXFAN on Feb 6, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?
I don't understand where the "hatred" part comes from.

My point was simply that there are plenty of guys out there who have had long, successful pro careers, and the fact that Ryan has doesn't mean that he's going to be any more successful if you handed him the keys than someone like Julio Franco would be.

And if he's going to be the face of the team, and that's it, then that's fine.  But that's different from overseeing both the business and baseball sides of the team, which is supposedly what is going to occur.

by Adam J. Morris on Feb 6, 2008 8:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I read your statement wrong,
but who said Ryan is going to take over both sides?  I heard him say he is going to meet with everybody in this organization and then make a plan.  He has already endorsed JD and the job he has done so I don't see him screwing that up.

And I would think that having a long successful career could help.  Being in the majors for so long Im sure he knows more about baseball than any of us.  Im sure there are things he doesn't.  But he is willing to devote to learning this process and I feel he will succeed.

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by NYTXFAN on Feb 6, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't get that feeling when watching the
release.  Interesting though.
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by NYTXFAN on Feb 6, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ryan's baseball accomplishments...
What are they going to do for him as President of the Rangers?  Sell tickets?  I think that is pretty irrelevant to what Hicks is going to put back into the team.  Hicks is going to make money from owning the Rangers and he is still going to keep a fixed salary from everything I have been hearing.

by Chris Hanes on Feb 6, 2008 8:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I strongly dislike this
move.  It seems like Ryan is either here because Hicks is concerned about what JD is doing, or the alternative is that Ryan has no real role and is just a figurehead that will be used to assuage fans and increase ticket sales.

I love what JD is doing in rebuilding our farm system.  It had to be done and it requires patience...not only from our fans but from Mr. Hicks as well.  To change strategy at this point would be extremely upsetting and I'm not sure I could be a Rangers fan anymore.

The only positive I really see from having Ryan here is that it could possibly add some legitimacy to the franchise, making it more enticing for a big time free agent to come here in a few years, once we are good...assuming we will be good.  

If Hicks is really that unsure about JD or doesn't like his philosophy, it seems like nonsense to bring in Ryan to undermine Daniels.  If Hicks feels that way he should just fire Daniels and hire Ryan as the teams new GM.  I would be totally against that, but this current situation seems either to be either superficial or really dumb.

by Agreen07 on Feb 6, 2008 8:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think it has a huge positive effect on
free agents.  I would love to be a part of an orginization with a players coach, a young daring GM, and a hall of fame president.  In no way do I see them throwing JD overboard or throwing what he has built out the window.  They have done nothing but praise JD's work.
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by NYTXFAN on Feb 6, 2008 8:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Free Agents
Free agents are not more or less likely to come to the Rangers now that Nolan Ryan is our president.  All that matters is A.) Money and B.) the probability of winning a championship.  That is what it boils down to.  If Nolan Ryan's being the Rangers President gives the rangers more wins (which i find is almost impossible), then free agents are more likely to come here.  They don't care that a former great is helping running the show.  Rather, they want to help create a championship team with a nice chunk of change.
baseBALLIN!

by kevzta on Feb 6, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agree
its about money and the chance of winning
Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.

by coolaid on Feb 6, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Some players base it on playing for
a good player coach.  some money.  some championships.  Some might play to be involved with something special.
Ummm, I got nothing good to put here right now, that sucks!

by NYTXFAN on Feb 6, 2008 8:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

only one is
applicable to the Rangers: money.
Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.

by coolaid on Feb 6, 2008 9:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

All about ego.
I think this is just an ego war between Tom Hicks and Drayton McLane.  The Rangers had Nolan Ryan and McLane took him away.  Now Hicks has him back.

They were fighting over Clemens too, though the Rangers never won that battle.

I like what I know about Nolan... I hope it works out.

by Wemedge on Feb 6, 2008 8:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i concur...
...the only logical reason why Nolan was talking with the Rangers in the first place is because he wanted out of Houston.  

that front office is a mess.  look at the moves they made this offseason... pathetic.

so... that's why he's here.  he saw a better thing going on here and wanted to be a part of it.  geographically speaking... this works perfect for him.

by oc on Feb 6, 2008 8:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1
He came here to be a part of something special.  What's going on in Houston is just plain silly.  They are making irrational decisions.  Ryan came here because he sees that we are building a potential championship team for a long time.  He isn't going to come here and break that up.
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by NYTXFAN on Feb 6, 2008 8:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+ 1
The Exorcist remake is being filmed at Miles house during the Super Bowl. Starring Miles as Regan and Sharky as the Priest.

by LAMuscleFag on Feb 6, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Orel Hershiser
You already said it in another post Adam and I thought you were dead on, this move could have been made by keeping Hershiser in the organization and moving him upstairs.

I loved Nolan as a player, but I just don't know what he's going to do for this franchise as its President and apparently he doesn't either right now.  It would have been nice to hear that he had some sort of plan, be it on the baseball side or the business side.

by Chris Hanes on Feb 6, 2008 8:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And what exactly does Orel bring to the table?
Not sure it's any more than what Ryan could and will bring.....bring it on....It's been brought.
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by NYTXFAN on Feb 6, 2008 8:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You didn't know???
He pitched 59 consecutive scoreless innings!!  They called him "The Bulldog"!

by Chris Hanes on Feb 6, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Orel
along with Showalter led the charge to keep John Hart as GM. Orel was a great player but not necessarily good on the business end.

by Jea103 on Feb 6, 2008 10:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Very interesting points, Adam...
Although I'm inclined to think that those concerns are mostly unfounded. Nolan knows business, and that's why I think he was hired - who knows, the two minor league teams he owns might even wind up becoming part of the organization.

But on the baseball end of things, the fact that JD was extended speaks volumes, I think - he's the guy with the plan, and I think extending him means that this team may have finally comitted to the future, something that we should have done a long time ago. JD should continue to handle the baseball side of things the way he sees fit, with occasional input from Nolan, which, you would think, will be positive. In fact, as far as baseball input goes, hiring Nolan might also help us become a more pitching-oriented franchise, something that should fit right in with JD's plan.

There are still a few unawnsered questions about what his role will be, but personally, with JD getting extended, I'm having a hard time finding the downside in the hiring of Nolan right now.

I could use some baseball.

by lonestarJon on Feb 6, 2008 8:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I tend to agree with that assessment
I think if Hicks were worried about the job Daniels was doing, then he would not have given him an extension.  By the same token, if Ryan was brought here to change things, then I tend to think that Hicks would not have given Daniels an extension, and let Ryan bring his own guy in eventually?

by B_Black on Feb 6, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

JD
does not make decisions in a vacumm. He gets input from people in the organization whose opinion he respects before he does things. I can only see Nolan as one more source whose input is of value. I think there is a great over reaction to Nolan possibly changing the direction the Rangers are taking. I do not see a problem.

by Jea103 on Feb 6, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm reading
Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy right now, and I'm hoping Nolan Ryan being President of the Rangers is like Zaphod Beeblebrox being President of the Galaxy.
The President in particular is very much a figurehead -- he wields no real power whatsoever...

His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it.

by Wes Cox on Feb 6, 2008 8:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I read that book a couple years ago in High school
Those where some of the most confusing days of my life. But hey, while it may be confusing, those books are funny as hell.
I could use some baseball.

by lonestarJon on Feb 6, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boy did that movie suck
The 40 (still) trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Feb 6, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, as confusing as the book was,
that's no suprise. I've actually never seen the movie though, so I suppose I should withhold personal judgement till I can remember to rent it someday, but the trailers I saw about it didn't really impress me.
I could use some baseball.

by lonestarJon on Feb 6, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The effects were crummy...
but the BBC version was good.  The big studio version was a cockpunch.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Feb 6, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Is this just your subtle way ...
of griping about the Ballpark's inflated park effects due to the immense gravitational pull created by the construction of the massive electromagnetic field encapsulating the Restaurant at the End of the Universe behind home plate?

by shroomer on Feb 6, 2008 9:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

so...
i guess he isn't just a figurehead?

hmm.

oh well, the dude can sell air conditioners and foundation repair.  love me some olshan

send me nominations for the Hall of the Very Good
http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Feb 6, 2008 8:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Any Question
Who's throwing out the first pitch opening day?
"They say some of my stars drink whiskey, but I have found that ones who drink milkshakes don't win many ball games." -Casey Stengel

by 1man5tools on Feb 6, 2008 8:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

is it
jim sundberg?
send me nominations for the Hall of the Very Good
http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Feb 6, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no
Eric Nadel
Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.

by coolaid on Feb 6, 2008 8:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the most underrated person in that organization.
...that dude has been the only constant in all these years of losing.

...the only positive thing anyway.

by oc on Feb 6, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Concur
He's got to be one of the best in the game that nobody outside of his market has ever heard of.

by badradiorules on Feb 7, 2008 8:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Umm
George Bush ?
'At Georgia Southern, we don't cheat. That costs money and we don't have any.' Erk Russell / Georgia Southern

by Ed Coffin on Feb 6, 2008 8:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I assume
That it'll be the 9' tall flame throwing Texan, who will sell you beef, fix your foundation, and save your franchise.
"They say some of my stars drink whiskey, but I have found that ones who drink milkshakes don't win many ball games." -Casey Stengel

by 1man5tools on Feb 6, 2008 10:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm witholding any critique
Positive, negative, or indifferent until I see how the present initiatives translate into this and later years progress.  In a sense, it might not matter who is President of the Rangers (if) running the business criteria are met.  In another sense, there is lustre in having Nolan Ryan on board, particularly in Texas (and in most of baseball).  

If there is synergy between JD's team constuction plans into the future, and Ryan's aspirations to eventually (say) own the Rangers, or even if his role is minority partner but he's an officer of the organization, I'm pleased.  

How it works is tied to so many dependencies I have to sit back and wait.

'At Georgia Southern, we don't cheat. That costs money and we don't have any.' Erk Russell / Georgia Southern

by Ed Coffin on Feb 6, 2008 8:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Own them?
Suffice it to say I know nothing of Nolan's financial dealing since he left the game... but could he possibly have enough cheddar to own the team?

I highly doubt it.

The 40 (still) trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Feb 6, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nolan owns two minor league teams...
So it's not like he's a lightwieght. He's not as rich as Hicks, but if he could raise the dough, he'd probably make a fine owner. In fact, that's my fantasy - Hicks sells out to Nolan, maybe keeping a minority intrest, and Nolan takes us to the Series. Ah... daydreams...
I could use some baseball.

by lonestarJon on Feb 6, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yah, that's exactly what I want
I want a guy to raise a bunch of money, taking on a lot of investors in the process, and then have to run the team on a very tight and exact budget because he leveraged all his assets to buy the team.

What makes a good owner is having enough money to spend when spending is needed + the willingness to actually spend your money when spending is needed.

I don't think Nolan fits the bill at all, cause I don't think Nolan has the money to spend when spending is needed.

Hicks has the cash, but lately hasn't seemed too keen on spending it, though it's not like he hasn't tried (Zito, Matsuzuka, ect.).

We'll see if he opens the wallet again once he thinks we're primed for another run.

The 40 (still) trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Feb 6, 2008 9:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good point
but that's why I said Hicks can stay on as a minority owner - bankroll. Hicks already runs the team on a tight budget, and he has more money than George Steinbrenner - if Nolan can get some rich investors of his own involved, he might actually be able to funnel more money into the team than what Hicks has been.

That would be the difference between Nolan and Hicks: to Hicks, running the Rangers is a hobby - to Nolan, running the Rangers would be a full-time commitment. And that's what we really need as an owner, just as much if not more than a massive bankroll.

I could use some baseball.

by lonestarJon on Feb 6, 2008 9:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He is highly successful
Here in Texas you can buy Nolan Ryan beef at just about any supermarket. He is also chairman of the board of a couple different Express banks as well as sitting on several other corporate boards. He also has the 2 minor league franchises and owns a hotel and restaurant. So yeah, he has some business acumen and is well connected.

Having said that, there is no way he has the kind of scratch required to buy a team on his own. But maybe a plausible scenario is that Hicks eventually gives him a small slice of the pie and eventually Ryan heads up a group of investors that might be able to pull it off.

Juevos Daniels: biggest stones in the business.

by tricer on Feb 6, 2008 9:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

George W didn't have the $ either
But he still made a boatload of money off of the Arlington taxpayers.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Feb 7, 2008 9:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Concur...
voice of logic and reason, well said.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Feb 6, 2008 8:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1
...the Coff's been on a roll lately... as detailed in this week's OC's LSB Top 10 Bloghogs...

Rank    Player    Last Week

(1)    t ball       (2)
(2)   willamos2     (1)
(3)   dirkatron     (4)
(4)   slc ranger    (5)
(5)   Ed Coffin     (10)  :: AIRPLAY ::
(6)   JBImaknee     (6)
(7)   Chase Irwin   (5)
(8)     randy       (3)
(9)    zywica       (8)
(10)     BZA        (7)

by oc on Feb 6, 2008 9:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Great bit
Keep it up.
Piss off nut chucker... Boomer Sooner!

by boomer1 on Feb 6, 2008 9:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you sir...
...are on the cusp.

by oc on Feb 6, 2008 9:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Woo Hoo!!
Working my way into the top 10!
Piss off nut chucker... Boomer Sooner!

by boomer1 on Feb 6, 2008 10:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's funny shit oc...
I think you've found a follow up to oc makes/oc takes...
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Feb 6, 2008 9:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yay!
I'm moving up.

Take that, Randy!

The 40 (still) trumps all!!!

by thedirkatron on Feb 6, 2008 10:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

don't go poppin' your champagne just yet, D...
...that randy is an elusive one...

...you won't hear a peep out of him for three weeks...

...then suddenly, when you least expect it... he'll post something. the most important thing you've ever heard... something that will make you scratch your head and go... "huh... man... why didn't i think of that?"

...and just when you have it figured out, he vanishes in the mist.

dude freaks me out.

by oc on Feb 6, 2008 10:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Should I feel honored,
or dismayed at the ranking?  
A working class hero is something to be.

by t ball on Feb 7, 2008 12:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I had no idea
You're making me blush oc
Unstoppable....Eli Manning is with his Citizen Eco-Drive.

by TheBZA on Feb 6, 2008 11:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

can't deny...
...a brotha with good taste in hip-hop.

i listened to The W the other day... forgot how good the production is on that... Hollow Bones especially.

by oc on Feb 6, 2008 11:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Ryan Express.

Welcome aboard!

by KinslersCorner on Feb 6, 2008 9:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ryan's role
What are the chances that his interest in baseball operations is mostly developmental?  Dealing with the minor leaguers, and minor league structural decisions, as well as getting involved in the development of talent (specifically pitching).
Troy I.

by tdi1985 on Feb 6, 2008 9:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Boy...
my banning finger is getting itchy these days.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Feb 6, 2008 9:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Too many cooks in the kitchen.
The only way this makes sense to me is from a marketing standpoint.  If I start seeing pitchers tossing footballs in the outfield, I'm lighting myself on fire.

by SteveP on Feb 6, 2008 9:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nolan Ryan
is going to ruin everything JD has done. It is a sad day for me.
Mitt Romney - Fred Thompson in 2008. "Real change that those who are wise can believe in."

by dstar442005 on Feb 6, 2008 9:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

More on Ryan...
I'm a long time reader, and first time poster.  I have no special qualifications, except that I am a professional athlete, a die hard Ranger fan and I know Tom Hicks' brother.  I am straddling the fence on Ryan's appointment mainly because Tom Hicks has never given up control of anything.  I hope Ryan can bring an air of reapectability to this franchise that is desperately in need of it.  Even if that is the only thing he brings, that is fine and good.  If he becomes more involved, I hope he has surrounded himself with the right people from which to take counsel and advice.  Daniels extension, I think, is a very positive move nad one that shows a committment to him.  Did you notice the same was not done for Washington? I also think Ryan has shown a genuine interest in the future of the Rangers.  He has said in the past, in the DMN I think, that he wants to become a MLB owner.  If this is a precursor to that, I'm all in favor.  But back to my original thought.  I really do not believe Hicks will give up the control he has maintained throughout, and perhaps he received a committment from Ryan to maintain the course they are currently set upon..

by winstonbot on Feb 6, 2008 10:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Scattershots
  1. I feel like Adam and some others that are wary of this. I don't trust Hicks' ability to recognize management talent, and as I've mentioned before, his chain of command policy and overall management style are just horrible, and I think the poster just above has a couple of really good points on Hicks. He's added another layer into the baseball brain trust but has never shown interest in allowing that person to take his place. It will be interesting to see how he handles it, whether he's smart enough to stop doing interviews and thinking that he really has any valuable input to add when it comes to baseball decisions.
  2. I've never concerned myself with how smart or wise Ryan is, and that's something else that I'd be a bit wary of, but I will say that he has identified maybe the number one problem with Tom Hicks. He said that he thinks that the organization has constantly changed direction and management personnel and that what he thinks it needs is continuity. If Daniels really is on the right course, which it looks like he is now, and Ryan will trust him, that would be a really positive influence from Ryan, maybe the most positive thing that a team president could add, if Hicks would cooperate. And, really, that is the sort of thing that a President should impact, the stability of the franchise.
  3. Ryan talked about the fact that his focus in baseball terms was to build a steady flow of talent from the minor leagues, particularly pitching and acknowledged that it was already starting to happen. That's always a good focus to have, and it's good that his head seems to be in the same place that Daniels' is. I think that I really like some of the people that Daniels has surrounded himself with, in particular my man crush AJ Preller and the pretty venerable Don Welke. If Ryan will involve himself more with the general focus in this area and consistency in that, rather than micromanaging or once again shifting personnel, he can be an advocate for Daniels in Hicks' ADD infested ear.
  4. In the interview I heard Ryan do after the press conference, he didn't exactly speak glowingly about Daniels, although he was talking to pretty clueless folks in Galloway and Engel. At any rate, I was really happy to see the extension given to Daniels because I was uncomfortable with that particular situation after listening to the interview. And as far as their relationship, if Ryan has an open mind, I tend to think that Daniels will gain his respect. Daniels knows the right things to say and the right attitude to have and I have to assume will make an impression on Ryan just as he has on others with his intellect.

by Brett Perryman on Feb 7, 2008 12:01 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Point 4
if Ryan has an open mind, I tend to think that Daniels will gain his respect.

I would assume so, as well.  If Daniels can make Tom Hicks slow down and stick with a plan, he can probably get Ryan aboard too.

The best thing I read today was Hicks saying he would be less involved day to day.

A working class hero is something to be.

by t ball on Feb 7, 2008 12:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt
Buck Showalter pushed for that deal. We know AJM is just biased against Buck.

I think Ron Washington pushed for the Chris Young trade, as long as we're just making stuff up out of thin air anyway.

Eli dishes out historical ownage on Miles' computer..

by Sharky on Feb 7, 2008 12:07 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

We just need to blame both
...Daniels and Buck. Buck wasn't a believer in Young and even as bad as that looks in retrospect, it's not hard to see how they would have been concerned about his durability. And Daniels pulled the trigger and not only dealt him but chose a dreadful return. Both are very much to blame, but hopefully that awful decision will be washed away by a stream of good ones. I don't see how anyone who is objective and informed can be too down on the things that have happened in the last year, player personnel-wise. This team was a MESS a year or so ago.

by Brett Perryman on Feb 7, 2008 12:14 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe
Nolan will be worse as Hicks personal Baseball sounding board than Hart was.  Isn't Hart still on the payroll for like 4-5 more years?  Maybe Nolan can just treat Hart like Robin Ventura.  That would make the signing all worthwhile.
"We should have bombed it (Auschwitz)"-President Bush

by DJCahill on Feb 7, 2008 12:43 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Guys....
     The pessimism reeks here.  Good gawd.  There is absolutely nothing but good that can happen from this move.  We are the peanut gallery.  Do you not think all of your objections weren't voiced by JD and talked through?  Come on.

     We get a figurehead that isn't Tom Hicks.  He happens to be the most successful Ranger on and off the field in Ranger history.  From a PR and marketing perspective this move is a grand slam.  This mostly effects the average fan and the ones that quit following after years of losing.  This will peek their interest again.  This move wasn't for us die-hards in that respect, it was for them and it was a great move.

     From what I've read and heard from the news conference Tom Hicks said will be in charge of both business and operations.  To that I say Cheers!  I think many of you are missing the point when you say this may hamper JD.  Who is Nolan replacing??????  TOM freakin' HICKS!!!!  I thought there was going to be a celebration in the streets  when you guys heard this.  JD gets to get an OK on a deal from Nolan instead of a guy who we all agree knows little about baseball and is the only guy left from the regime that made all the draft/FA/trade mistakes that you all love to still bitch about.  JD needs to increase payroll and can justify it, Nolan pitches it.  JD is close to picking up the next Murton and the deal hits a snag.  The other team's GM/Pres picks up the phone and Ryan is on the other end asking what its going to take to getturdone?  Who thinks its a little easier to tell JD no?

    I really like the timing of this as well, adding Mr Ryan at the end of the off-season.  This allows for no quick decision making without all the facts (with the exception of the 40-man in spring training).  It allows for Mr. Ryan until around the all-star break to evaluate our system so he can make an informed decision when JD brings his next deal.  The average fan gets excited because they don't follow the minors or JD's moves like we do.  They think if anyone can right this ship, its Nolan Ryan.  It gives them something to be excited about when all the LSBers know this thing started 2 years ago.

by corbsclinton on Feb 7, 2008 10:26 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Norm
Yes, he was a major league player for twenty five years or whatever.  You could say the same thing about Julio Franco.  Should he be team president?  If not, what's the difference?

This kind of comment reminds me of the extremely shallow-minded Norm Hitzges.

by LBrooks on Feb 7, 2008 2:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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